So why answer to him/her? I think that's really feeble minded. In the end all Atheist beleive in a infinite power whether they liek to admit or not. I use to have a Atheist friend. Once he broke his leg and the first thinsg which came out of his mouth were, Oh my "God" thsi hurts. Hmm.
There are two neighbors. One is a Believer another is an Atheist. The hundred percent certainty is that they both will eventually die. The uncertainty is as to what could happen after the death. Neither the Believer nor the Atheist has the tangible and perceptible evidence to claim with hundred percent certainty that he knows for sure what is going to happen, after the death. So, the next best thing to do for this uncertain couple is to examine all the possible and plausible options and then evaluate the probable results.
Scenario Number One:
The possibility; There is nothing after the death.
Our life upon this world is the beginning and the ultimate end.
Result:
Under this Scenario both have nothing to gain or loose,
after the death.
Scenario Number Two:
The possibility; There is some one called the Divine Supreme Entity.
In that case there is a possibility for accountability, after the death.
Result:
Under this Scenario the Believer has a better advantage
while the Atheist has much to regret, after his death.
The Bottom Line:
The Atheist has a possibility of being at a disadvantage at the hereafter, if there is One. The Believer has no such disadvantage and as such no apprehension. He is thus more relaxed and at ease in life.
I challenge any Atheist to prove the arguments in this article otherwise. No one has been able to do so for 1,400 years, lets see if these nice people can.Please checkout the challenge on the following site. Here is your chance to prove something wrong and stand up for your beliefs.
I just wanted to thank you for writing a response to my posting. First of all this was my first time to be on slashdot.org. I got on there because a friend of mine, who is a white Muslim felt that athetist thinking(which originated from Europe) is killing the Muslim intellects in the East. He is the one who came across this site and not me. If you are gonna post something which condemns Muslims and then expect them not to take it seriously, I would suggest that you put in the brackets that you are not serious about it =). I don't live in Malaysia and I probably agree with you that a lot of Muslim countries use ISLAM to justify their oppresssion. But the majority of Muslim governments aren't the true respresentation of the masses. They are heavily controlled by those in power. IMF, Federal Reserve and World Bank. Anyways I wish you the best in you endeavor and I hope that in the future we can discuss issues without getting personal. Only the facts should be discussed. Peace.
Please do check out the following article. Tell me what you think after you read it. I think it might be something you would find interesting.
http://www.shariati.com/machine.html
as illustrated by MJR. First of all Islamic Law also known as Shariah Law isn't applied in Malaysia as a whole. Secondly Islamic Law has never asked non-Muslims to convert to Islam, if anything it is the only religion in the history to allow minority religious groups to continue practicing their religion. I would be really interested in knowing where in the Islamic history has it forced non-Muslims to convert.
Thirdly Mr MJR pointed out that Muslims were a dying breed and "MAN" is evolving. Hence Muslims are not man but some other entity. I don't know what MJR has gone through in his childhood. Why the so much hatred. Maybe he was sexually abused as man evolved into a corrupt being. Or maybe his father or mother were screwing neighbours while he or she was made to watch. Whatever the reason for this much hatred and ignorance from MJR, we as Muslism must learn to forgive him for his mistakes.
My point is simple. Man can't keep himself in line. We have seen with all the man made laws, as here in my country U.S.A along with other countries who rule under the banners of democracy, socialist, communist and what else not. Why have they all failed to solve their problems of the society. Every 14 seconds in U.S.A a person is murdered. Every 9 seconds someoen is raped. Kids are having kids, Morals don't exist anymore. Look anywher around where Shariah is not applied in its entirety. Corruption prevails and people like MJR are the ones leading the movement. Why is it where Shariah law is applied crime rate drops to pretty much 0%, prostitution and exploitation of women or men disappears and oppressors can't oppress the people in any way. Please see the results of Northern Nigeria where Sharia has been recently applied. All the cooruption has pretty much dissapeared. History has proven again and again that on Islamic Law for the past 1,400 years had kept all the ills of the society away fromt he Muslim Ummah. Maybe MJR needs a little lesson in history. It did that because Shariah Law is NOT man made law and a law from none other than Allah, hence withotu any faults.
As men evolves he must realize from the history(since evolution is based from history)that no matter how much he evolves he can't fix the problems facing the society unless he implements the Divine Law, in which all human beings are treated with justice. And for peopel liek MJR if you hate Islam so much you might want to consider relocating to a country liek ours (U.S.A.) where you will realize that you were better off under the Shariah Law.
And as for a dying breed. Islam is the fating grwoign religion in the world. According to U.S.A State Dept. Islam will be the second largest religion in America by 2010. Its is already that in Britian, France, Russia. With over 1.5 billion Muslim aroudn the world and ever growing, WE ARE FROM BEING CALLED A DYIGN BREED. Its MJR and losers liek him who are the dying Breed. Wanna Be Western idiots, who are shamed of who they are.
The following quote from DR Shariati accurately describes MJR and people like him. "They(Westerners) have created a people who do not know their own culture, but still are ready to despise it. They know nothing about Islam but say bad things about it. They cannot understand a simple poem but criticize it with poorly chosen words. They do not understand their history but are ready to condemn it. On the other hand, without reservation they admire all that is imported from Europe. Consequently, a being was created who, first became alienated from his religion, culture, history and background, and then came to despise them. He was convinced he was inferior to the European. And when such a belief took root in him, he tried and wished to refute himself, to sever his connections with all the objects attached to him and somehow make himself like a European, who was not despised and looked down upon, and at least be able to say, "Thank God I am not an Easterner since I modernized myself sufficiently to reach the level of a European."
And while the non-European is happy with the idea that he has been modernized, the European capitalist and bourgeois laugh at their success in converting him into a consumer of their surplus production. "
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So why answer to him/her? I think that's really feeble minded. In the end all Atheist beleive in a infinite power whether they liek to admit or not. I use to have a Atheist friend. Once he broke his leg and the first thinsg which came out of his mouth were, Oh my "God" thsi hurts. Hmm. There are two neighbors. One is a Believer another is an Atheist. The hundred percent certainty is that they both will eventually die. The uncertainty is as to what could happen after the death. Neither the Believer nor the Atheist has the tangible and perceptible evidence to claim with hundred percent certainty that he knows for sure what is going to happen, after the death. So, the next best thing to do for this uncertain couple is to examine all the possible and plausible options and then evaluate the probable results. Scenario Number One: The possibility; There is nothing after the death. Our life upon this world is the beginning and the ultimate end. Result: Under this Scenario both have nothing to gain or loose, after the death. Scenario Number Two: The possibility; There is some one called the Divine Supreme Entity. In that case there is a possibility for accountability, after the death. Result: Under this Scenario the Believer has a better advantage while the Atheist has much to regret, after his death. The Bottom Line: The Atheist has a possibility of being at a disadvantage at the hereafter, if there is One. The Believer has no such disadvantage and as such no apprehension. He is thus more relaxed and at ease in life.
I challenge any Atheist to prove the arguments in this article otherwise. No one has been able to do so for 1,400 years, lets see if these nice people can.Please checkout the challenge on the following site. Here is your chance to prove something wrong and stand up for your beliefs.
http://members.tripod.com/~islamx/q/amaz.html
I just wanted to thank you for writing a response to my posting. First of all this was my first time to be on slashdot.org. I got on there because a friend of mine, who is a white Muslim felt that athetist thinking(which originated from Europe) is killing the Muslim intellects in the East. He is the one who came across this site and not me. If you are gonna post something which condemns Muslims and then expect them not to take it seriously, I would suggest that you put in the brackets that you are not serious about it =). I don't live in Malaysia and I probably agree with you that a lot of Muslim countries use ISLAM to justify their oppresssion. But the majority of Muslim governments aren't the true respresentation of the masses. They are heavily controlled by those in power. IMF, Federal Reserve and World Bank. Anyways I wish you the best in you endeavor and I hope that in the future we can discuss issues without getting personal. Only the facts should be discussed. Peace. Please do check out the following article. Tell me what you think after you read it. I think it might be something you would find interesting. http://www.shariati.com/machine.html
as illustrated by MJR. First of all Islamic Law also known as Shariah Law isn't applied in Malaysia as a whole. Secondly Islamic Law has never asked non-Muslims to convert to Islam, if anything it is the only religion in the history to allow minority religious groups to continue practicing their religion. I would be really interested in knowing where in the Islamic history has it forced non-Muslims to convert. Thirdly Mr MJR pointed out that Muslims were a dying breed and "MAN" is evolving. Hence Muslims are not man but some other entity. I don't know what MJR has gone through in his childhood. Why the so much hatred. Maybe he was sexually abused as man evolved into a corrupt being. Or maybe his father or mother were screwing neighbours while he or she was made to watch. Whatever the reason for this much hatred and ignorance from MJR, we as Muslism must learn to forgive him for his mistakes. My point is simple. Man can't keep himself in line. We have seen with all the man made laws, as here in my country U.S.A along with other countries who rule under the banners of democracy, socialist, communist and what else not. Why have they all failed to solve their problems of the society. Every 14 seconds in U.S.A a person is murdered. Every 9 seconds someoen is raped. Kids are having kids, Morals don't exist anymore. Look anywher around where Shariah is not applied in its entirety. Corruption prevails and people like MJR are the ones leading the movement. Why is it where Shariah law is applied crime rate drops to pretty much 0%, prostitution and exploitation of women or men disappears and oppressors can't oppress the people in any way. Please see the results of Northern Nigeria where Sharia has been recently applied. All the cooruption has pretty much dissapeared. History has proven again and again that on Islamic Law for the past 1,400 years had kept all the ills of the society away fromt he Muslim Ummah. Maybe MJR needs a little lesson in history. It did that because Shariah Law is NOT man made law and a law from none other than Allah, hence withotu any faults. As men evolves he must realize from the history(since evolution is based from history)that no matter how much he evolves he can't fix the problems facing the society unless he implements the Divine Law, in which all human beings are treated with justice. And for peopel liek MJR if you hate Islam so much you might want to consider relocating to a country liek ours (U.S.A.) where you will realize that you were better off under the Shariah Law. And as for a dying breed. Islam is the fating grwoign religion in the world. According to U.S.A State Dept. Islam will be the second largest religion in America by 2010. Its is already that in Britian, France, Russia. With over 1.5 billion Muslim aroudn the world and ever growing, WE ARE FROM BEING CALLED A DYIGN BREED. Its MJR and losers liek him who are the dying Breed. Wanna Be Western idiots, who are shamed of who they are. The following quote from DR Shariati accurately describes MJR and people like him. "They(Westerners) have created a people who do not know their own culture, but still are ready to despise it. They know nothing about Islam but say bad things about it. They cannot understand a simple poem but criticize it with poorly chosen words. They do not understand their history but are ready to condemn it. On the other hand, without reservation they admire all that is imported from Europe. Consequently, a being was created who, first became alienated from his religion, culture, history and background, and then came to despise them. He was convinced he was inferior to the European. And when such a belief took root in him, he tried and wished to refute himself, to sever his connections with all the objects attached to him and somehow make himself like a European, who was not despised and looked down upon, and at least be able to say, "Thank God I am not an Easterner since I modernized myself sufficiently to reach the level of a European." And while the non-European is happy with the idea that he has been modernized, the European capitalist and bourgeois laugh at their success in converting him into a consumer of their surplus production. "