Oh and additional thing just occured to me. If you don't use bullshit beef, you generate quite a lot of beef tallow just cooking the burgers. That's actually where I get mine.
Every time I cook beef, I poor off the grease into a bowl and let it cool. The bit that is runny gets thrown out. The bit that is solid gets put in a jar. I have a little mason jar in my fridge full of beef tallow that I collected from steaks and burgers and stuff.
If you're a burger place and you're cooking burgers all the time. How much beef tallow are you going to produce on a regular basis if you're using anything besides garbage meat? I mean, I can get about a half to a quarter cup from about two pounds of ground beef. I'm just spit balling there. I could be off. But I think that's about what I get.
Now, if I'm making 100-200 burgers a day. That seems like a reasonable figure... and each one is about a quarter pound of beef... then we're talking about 6.25-25 cups of tallow... per day just in self generation.
It would not surprise me if the original McD's just recycled the tallow from the burgers to fry the french fries. Again, I use the tallow from my beef all the time for things. Those buns I was talking about, I don't use butter or oil in them. I use my own recycled tallow in them. The buns come out like ciabatta bread just for your information. They have this interesting crust. There's no beef flavor to them. It just tastes like bread. But they have an interesting texture and they taste really good.
Am I off base here? Recycling tallow to run the fryer especially if you have an operation pumping a lot of burgers through the system seems obvious.
Maybe you have some tallow in the fridge to top you off if you get low but I would imagine you could self supply almost entirely on your own tallow.
I am a big fan of really decadent food. I love foie gras for example. My god that stuff tastes good. It is to bacon what bacon is to other food. People that put pictures of bacon up on the wall or wear bacon t-shirts... no... false idol... foie gras is fucking ridiculously delicious.
People talk about the mystical flavor scientists. I think they're terrible at their jobs. The food they "engineer" tastes like shit. Try the real thing. Its not even close. its like comparing purple drink with fresh pressed grape juice. No comparison. Purple drink is gritty, artificial, and far too sweet. Fresh pressed grapes however are smooth... almost syrupy, the subtleties of the flavor taste nothing like purple drink, and the flavor has more body than simple sweetness. There's a lot of sugar in grape juice. Its just got more going on for it than that.
First, have you ever eaten at Fat burger or In & Out? In and out is sort of a cult at this point. Its really good but fat burger is comparable. Its very popular. And if you see one of these places next to a traditional franchise... the traditional franchise is full of homeless people.
Maybe I live in rich areas. Maybe I'm a food snob. That's fair. I do want better food and I don't just mean trans fats or whatever. I want it to taste better. I want a big juicy burger that tastes like something you'd have if you just MADE a burger.
Every so often, I go to my butcher and get a couple pounds of ground beef. I make the paddies by hand. I mix it and marinade them. My current recipe that I like the best are inspired by a traditional meatball recipe. There's no meat ball sauce on them. Its just how the meat is prepared, but the point is that I go through that process and then I either grill or pan fry the paddies.
I have home made bread that I use as buns. Bread makers make this simple. I use the bread maker to make the dough. Then remove the dough, shape it into little buns, and then bake those for about half an hour.
I have a few sauces I like to make. I have an interesting BBQ aioli that I like. etc etc.
They're really good burgers. That shit from McDs is chimp semen by comparison.
They keep trying to attract business by being healthy. They put salads on the menu. Fuck that. How about you put a REAL burger on the menu. In and out is doing gang buster business and I think they have a total of 5 things on their menu. Its like "burger, fries, soda, shake, some other drink" Its a really tiny menu. And no one cares because everything on the menu is ACTUALLY good. Everything from McD's tastes of plastic and cellulose. Its food for homeless people. Its soylent green if it were a burger.
I didn't mean to be unfair to the British. They knew how to run an empire but they didn't uplift nations in their spheres for the mutual profit of those peoples. They invested in those countries to profit the empire or make controlling the territory easier.
No one ran a global empire better or more benevolently than the British until the Americans came along. Our administration is very different in character but arguably more stable, definitely more profitable, and the people's within our sphere tend to be happier because they can pretty much do whatever they want until it comes to geo politics.
That's really where the US starts paying attention to things... when something crosses the lines on the map. If it stays within certain borders we tend to ignore it. This is why for example we don't get involved in the brutal civil wars in Africa. Central africa from our perspective is all sort of one big mess. We have very little invested in it and the chaos there doesn't spread. They just kill each other in huge numbers.
The middle east draws us because they keep invading each other and especially messing with Israel which we have a lot invested in. If they just killed each other in their own countries we'd probably do nothing. Our assumption is that such wars burn themselves out and there's no long term benefit to getting involved in some country's civil war. Wait for one side to kill the other and then sign a trade deal with the victor.
Let me just finish with saying I have great admiration for the old British empire and the US learned a lot of what it knows from it. Forgive us if we have our own spin on the issue. We're all going to do things differently.
Our method has pros and cons. But this is the system we're most comfortable with.
They're going to crack. By some estimates the traffic for the Spanish sites that lobbied for the change in law dropped by about 15 percent because of that.
That's a lot. Perhaps they're taking their time, perhaps they're seeing if things return to normal at some point... maybe there is bureaucratic thing where they have to wait for the next meeting or something... possibly they're trying to save face.
It gets so depressing listening to these hyperventilating pearl clutching nitwits worry about killer robots or sapient AIs.
I don't care who they are... they're not AI experts.
Look, I'm not an AI expert either and even I knew the worry was moronic. As the guy said "like worrying about over population on mars".
Current AIs are retarded and unbelievably myopic. And whatever skills or nature is in them was programmed into them. Their priorities... their databases. We provide everything.
The best AIs of my life time will probably be the computer equivalent of Rainman. Brilliant in some task no doubt but unable to do anything with any competency or even understand that anything else is important.
A big part of the problem is that people anthropomorphize robots/AIs. They invest in them this notion of being demons in bottles or animals made of metal. They're neither of these things.
We have hundreds of millions of years of genetic programming on this planet emphasizing our survival. What is the AI going to have? Will it even have a sense of self preservation? Why would we program that into an AI in any complex sense?
What we'd do with a combat robot is program it to evade enemy weapons fire. But teaching something to evade something is not the same thing as teaching it to preserve itself. Little things like fear, paranoia... that deep animal cunning that comes into play when death is on the line. We do weird things. We play dead. We make a final stand with no attempt to defend... just investing everything in one final attack.
All of this stuff is genetic. Our ancestors... even the furry ones that scurried around occasionally got out of bad situations by doing things like that. The effectiveness is dubious on some predators as anyone with a competent cat will know. Playing dead from what I could see was a terrible idea.
But the point is that even an AI war machine isn't going to be as adaptable or tricksy as people. First, it doesn't need to be that cunning. And second, even if it would be nice, it wouldn't be wroth it. Its too much work for what? So the robot occasionally get scragged? That's why you send in 10 of them at once. The fucking things roll off an assembly line. Finally, it is easier to keep them alive by adjusting their battle tactics. You tell them to stay back a bit, maybe bombard the area a bit... something that makes dealing with ambushes less of an issue.
Oh yeah, and when the robots actually get clever enough that they might actually be a danger... we'll slap a slave collar on that monster at birth.
The danger is not AIs... but the rich and powerful with AIs. The AIs are tools. The rich and the powerful are the will and the mind that guides them.
If the site is anonymous or held by a shell company than what are they going to do? Shake their dicks at Taiwan and demand they turn over the name of the owner of the site that said the prime minister's topee looks like a dead rat?
The whole thing is stupid. The EU and many EU nations have been trying to strong arm various internet companies... mostly US companies to bow to European codes even the intertional or US version of the stie. France I believe was demanding that google remove search results from the US version of google that had links that were supposed to be removed under french law.
Good luck with that France.
And Spain had an embarrassing encounter with Google News where google just terminated the service in Spain rather than comply and it created such a political backlash that the Spanish government had to backtrack.
The french are especially presumptuous on this issue. And if they think European sites and users are going to accept this then they can enjoy either being bypassed legally or politically crushed if they actually inconvenience users.
I didn't admire the nazis anymore than I admired the imperial japanese conducting germ warfare experiments on PoWs, twit. Just so you are clear... that is not at all. They were both scum bags mostly for abusing non consenting civilians and abusing PoW status. I think the Japanese were also doing live vivisections of US PoWs... really nasty shit.
What I did was point out that the tech won't be stopped by your petty ideology or ethics or morality EVEN IF everyone in our civilization thinks it is immoral or bad. It won't be stopped. Eventually it is going to be developed. And the society that masters it first is going to have an advantage over the rest.
The technology will be developed.
Do you know what the first person to discover fire said? "Ouch". A thing's power is proportional to its danger. Safe technologies are almost always very limited in application and relevance. Fire... think of what we do with it. We cook our food, we clear fields, we keep ourselves warm, we generate electricity, we drive cars with controlled explosions going off in the clockwork of their engines, we fly around the world in aluminum birds blazing through the sky on jet fuel, do all kinds of smelting/metalworking/machining... The things we do with fire. Its dangerous Don't respect it and it will burn you alive and take as much of your surroundings with you as is chemically possible.
But the danger of fire is worth the benefit especially if you know how to handle it.
Will we get burned by genetic engineering? Yes. Will it get out of control on occasion? Yep. It has many problems. And we'll probably suffer all of them to at least a limited extent at one point or another. And those scares will force us to respect the technology in the same way that all dangerous technologies force its users to respect it. Or those technologies KILL YOU.
So yeah, Genetic engineering is dangerous. What's new? Fire is dangerous. Nuclear power is dangerous. Name a technology worth a damn that isn't dangerous? Think of how many technologies you can make a weapon out of if you want to. Almost all of them.
What makes genetic engineering so amazing is that it is applicable to every living thing on this planet as well as any living thing we might create.
You don't like genetic engineering? You might as well hate electricity. They just started a factory which produces spider silk. They have vats of yeast that produce spider silk proteins. The vats are harvested and filtered... and they can extract JUST the spider silk from the vats. My understanding is that it is sort of a gelatinous blob when removed from the tanks... at that point in time still... and you have to do is extrude it and mix it with alcohol and that causes it to turn into what we think of as spider silk. So they do that under controlled conditions and they can produce a continuous strand of spider silk which they cut every so often and spin onto spindles. It is then used for textiles of some description.
Just one example of many.
You CANNOT stop it. You can accept it or you can hold you hand up to the east and tell the Sun to stop. It's going to be about as likely to heed your protest as this technological revolution.
I'm not lying you little semen filled donut. You just like harassing me for some reason and you've hit on "this" as the latest insult of choice.
Got tired of implying I didn't have an education? So now we're on to lying, eh bingo?
Yawn and whatever. I really don't know where you think this will go, bingo. You don't inconvience me, you don't offend me, you don't slow me down... oh and no one takes you seriously.
My karma rating? Excellent. yours? 0
And that's with me telling a fair number of people to go fuck themselves or kill themselves or something you know the special snowflakes will get all teary eyed about.
And despite that... Excellent. You lose, Bingo. You remain garbage. *kiss kiss*
Nice try shithead. I said nothing specific about Cox.
So you can take that little strawman and jam it right back up your ass sideways.;)
Am I claiming Linus is perfect? He's human. He's going to fuck up. Does that mean his management style is bad... because he's not super human? no.
The point I am making is that style of management is often very effective especially in shoestring operations and bootstrap operations. I can cite you a lot of very successful people that just run their outfits that way. And people are glad to work for them. I mean, who doesn't know what you're getting in for in these outfits? These guys have reputations and yet people still show up to work for them. Why is that? Because they think they can handle it or because they don't care.
As to him driving off real talent, he might also be driving off special snowflakes. Depending what is going on that's as bad as incompetence. Such people will hold operations hostage on the basis of their egos, force everyone to step around them like they're walking on egg shells... I can think of more than a few coworkers that were fired for that reason.
They refused to put in extra effort when the organization needed it. They let personal bullshit get in the way of work. They'd send endless memos to HR about their fucking feelings.
Who needs that shit? I don't. My other coworkers don't need it. Fucking HR hates that garbage more than anyone. HR loves me because I don't bother them and they don't bother me. Which is as god intended it.
I can't speak to every little fucking thing Linus has ever done. I'm sure you can cherry pick the record to support your position. But it doesn't change that Linus has been very successful at keeping that project going and herding the cats of the internet to manage things.
So who am I to judge the man?
As the old Roman maxim goes "Defeat has no excuse; Victory needs none."
Linus wins. And he's had powerful interests trying to fuck him over for years and years. So give the man a tip of your hat and move on.
Your extinction prediction is based on Drake's equation.
Anyone using Drake's equation seriously is a quack.
As to evidence pointing to an accelerating of the process, no it doesn't. The evidence as you put it is Drake's equation.
As to talk of a world without humans... Not going to happen. We'll out live the cockroaches. Get used to us.
I have no doubt that marginal populations are going to die occasionally in large numbers. Look at what happens in a third world country every time there is a flood or a heat wave or a tough winter or a fucking earthquake. They die in absurd numbers. The same things hit the first world and we shrug it off. Death tolls tend to be minimal, clean up is fairly rapid, and damage to our nation states tends to be negligible even in the moment.
A strong civilization can weather hard times. Weak civilizations struggle to survive on the good days. So on the bad they tend to just die.
I don't know what to tell you with all this doom talk. Its irrational.
First, thanks for the correction on McDonalds. I think they use different oils in different regions. But it is sad that they're still using the transfat oils still.
As to worth it... again, they used to use beef tallow. You can still buy beef tallow. I can go to my local grocery store right now and buy beef tallow. Its something like 25 percent saturated fat but that's why its solid. Its very stable at room temperature and lasts a long time.
I just don't get it. Part of McD's issue is that there product is shitty. Everyone wants a higher quality product. Would it kill them to stop serving the cardboard burgers and make these fake trans fat gestures?
Why is it so hard to just dump them entirely? When I make things at home, I'm never remotely tempted to use trans fats and I can make anything. I really doubt it costs me much more either because the thing with trans fats is that they taste like shit compared to butter, tallow, lard, etc.
Hey bingo. I never lied to you bingo. You had that explained to you the first time, you even admitted I was right... and then you just went back to calling me a liar because that's the sort of shitheel you are.;)
Yes you can avoid using loaded terms if you can literally lock people out of the room. Or beat the shit out of them if they try to enter the building. Which is how we deal with this in the real world when someone won't go away.
We also have certification systems where you can vet people. And then there are the whispering circles where people will decide behind your back that you won't be invited to the next meeting.
None of this especially works on the internet. Sorry. It doesn't work.
Linus himself has actually explained this in almost literally these terms himself at least a couple times when queried about the way he conducts himself.
You knock them down, you draw dick on their forehead, and if they want to keep showing up... you can't stop them. But because of that dick on their forehead, no one is going to listen to them.
Emotion versus facts? We're not dealing with a species of spocks here. We're dealing with human beings. I am personally extremely logical. But insult people freely not as an expression of what I feel but to get an emotional reaction out of other people. That's why I do it.
If the world were full of people like me, we wouldn't be cussing at each other because it would serve no purpose. But the world is not full of people like me. Its full of people that get hurt by harsh words and people that react to emotional outbursts. That pain and those reactions are useful. I use them to get what I want. And if it works, then am I bastard for doing it or are they idiots for being so easily manipulated?
Sticks and stones, no? And yet here you are trying to slap my wrists because linus finds it useful on occasion to take a bite out of someone? Tsk Tsk.
Here is how you show that you're above insults.
BY NOT CARING.
If you care, then they effect you or you've seen it effect other people. Which means at least they aren't above it.
If someone is fucking up and I want them to just go away... I can more effectively accomplish that if I make them feel bad at the same time. Does that make me a bad person? According to who's morality or ethics? Upon what am I being judged here? If people were half as logical and adult as you presume, then the tactic itself wouldn't work. It does work because they aren't that logical which means the tactic itself is valid.
Ipso fucking facto
There is an established history of very effective managers that had everything JUST SO or you were dog shit. And people that didn't give them what they wanted when they wanted how they wanted... they did not enjoy the response.
I believe Steve Jobs might have been another of these fellows. A lot of special snowflakes went crying home to mommy over things he said I'm sure. But look at what the man built? How many people coddling the feelings of the children do as much? Exactly. Your "be nice to people" concept is sweet but I'm convinced that it is at best arbitrary and at worst naive.
Yes... but that assumes intention was to say "respectfully we will not engage in that project" and instead due to incompetence someone calls another person a moron when what they MEANT to say what your polite platitude.
Allow me to blow your mind like raspberry jam all over the walls... what if you WANT to express that another member of the community is incompetent, foolish, and unworthy of the respect, time, or even common courtesy of the community?
Can you even deal with that?
Because any society has ways of doing that. We exclude people all the time. We have all sorts of vetting systems that filter people. Ideally if the filters are set up properly then you're filtering people with some sort of productive purpose. Worst case you're building a little echo chamber of people that agree with you about everything. But depending on who you are and what your project controls... that's okay.
As to him riling people... if you're a special snowflake. If you deal with people that can and will chew you out over... fucking anything... their bagel was old and so they're just going to be pissey for the whole day. You just don't take that seriously.
One person I work with is always hungry. She's body image conscious or something. Point is that she's fucking intolerable unless she's had something to eat about 10 minutes before I have to start working with her. So I bring that bitch food. She thinks I'm being nice.:D When really I'm being condescending because she can't control herself.
But that's part of working with people. I have some coworkers that could do their jobs with gun shot wounds. And I have others that lose their shit if the temperature in the room is off.
Is Linus a prima donna? Yep. But do you know why you tolerate Prima Donnas? Because they're the star attraction in the show.
Furthermore, how do your ride herd on a community like that without occasionally biting a chuck out of them? Why shouldn't they be fucktards? Because if you behave that way, Linus or someone like him will call you a fucktard and get everyone to agree with him. And then as far as anyone knows... you are a fucktard.
Everyone on this site is either autistic or a troll apparently.
Yeah, obviously I haven't been able to avoid trans fat in every single situation period 100 percent of the time to six decimal places. It is objections like yours that make me want to take a power drill to my temple and go digging until I smell purple.
What I was saying is that if you avoid processed foods, avoid hydrogenated anything (which is easy because it tastes bad), then you're going to be trans fat free.
Oils I use... I use olive oil in breads and dressings. I use canola oil for frying stuff. And I use butter if I want something spreadable.
No transfats.
I make a lot of stuff myself. I do that because it TASTES BETTER.
Now when I go to a resturant might they serve me something that has trans fat in it? Sure. Unavoidable in most cases. That said, nice places and large chains are not using large amounts of trans fat anymore. Small amounts... who can say. The USDA is fucking pathetic on the subject so even if it gets banned all that is going to mean is that the amounts are reduced to something the USDA deems "zero". Currently half a gram or something per serving is considered ZERO. Why half a gram? Lobbyists I have to assume. The food industry largely responded to that by reducing suggested serving sizes such that they fell below the half gram threshold.
I specifically stated that: "'True, their objective is to get huge not healthy. But that doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.""
So once you understand that I specifically stated that, we can go beyond that to your assertion that because they have different objectives their information is likely useless for your objective.... I really don't even know where to start with this...
They have extensive empericial experimentation into matters of health, fitness, diet, metabolism, etc.
Am I suggesting people eat like meatheads? no. I'm suggesting people consider that something learned by one group of people trying to do one thing can be useful for another group of people trying to do something which is actually similar in a lot of respects though of course not fucking identical.
Both you and the meatheads are trying to control your body's reaction to food, exercise, etc. They've figured out how to turn into muscle monsters. They know how to do that. And as I said... some of them do it with all fruit diets. Literally just sitting there eating pineapples and then beating the hell out of themselves in the gym.
And they say it is different than just eating bread. So not all carbs are equal.
If you don't know that organic is a joke, then allow me to illuminate the issue for you. The inspections for whether food is or is not organic are basically non-existent. You file some paper work and the fact of the matter isn't audited.
Beyond that, what you actually have to comply with assuming you were audited is not what people think. Lets say I'm growing organic vegies of some description... mostly what I have to do is not use certain types of pesticide. That's pretty much it. The system is not a WHITE list that says "you can only use these pesticides" but is instead a BLACK list which lists prohibited pesticides. So new products which can come out at any time are inherently "organic approved" until cited otherwise.
Basically if it didn't come out of some guy's garden or off some Amish farm... it isn't organic. Its fake organic. Which is a way of getting idiots to pay more for the same thing.
Its pathetic bullshit. If it is actually organic... great. But the USDA isn't going to ensure that because they don't police it and their standards for doing so are fucking dumb.
And on top of that, the merits of organic in the first place are pretty dubious.
I'm personally a bigger fan of green house growing... ideally hydroponic.
Why? Plants are about as healthy is possible. You have total control over everything. There are no pests so no need for pesticide at all. The best green houses maintain positive air pressure. There's no issue with "top soil", "erosion", "salt build up"... etc. And because I have total control over the nutrients the plants get, I can do all sorts of stuff to manipulate their growth on a DAY BY DAY basis. You can't change your nutrition on plant that is in the ground that fast. The last injection of stuff is still there.
And sure it is more expensive. BUT consider that it is easier to use harvesting robots in a fixed industrial green house and if set up properly you can grow all seasons in all climates. You can get fresh tomatoes in the middle of the Alaskan winter from a local farmer.
... For all he is... including his bluntness which bruises the precious egos of the special snowflakes. Sometimes you need to be able to call someone a moron. There are too many of them to waste any more time on them than that.
Nope. Transfats are not required to make fortune cookies. Its basically margarine. That's transfat. Avoid partially hydrogenated oils and you're removing nearly any kind of transfat that is going to hit you.
But why do I need to use margarine? Butter is fucking cheap. Is margarine cheaper? Sure... but is the cost difference enough to make me use it? No. It tastes gross for one thing. Cut off a slice of butter and compare it to a slice of margarine. They're not comparable.
I don't eat margarine.
An additional thing you should be aware of is that products can CLAIM to be transfat in much the same way that products claim to be Organic. its another FDA scam. So long as the per serving amount of transfat is less than.5 grams... you can call your product "trans fat free". So lets say I don't change my recipe at all.... I just cite a tiny portion size... Boom, trans fat free!
They're not trans fat free because they contain partially hydrogenated oils.
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Oh and additional thing just occured to me. If you don't use bullshit beef, you generate quite a lot of beef tallow just cooking the burgers. That's actually where I get mine.
Every time I cook beef, I poor off the grease into a bowl and let it cool. The bit that is runny gets thrown out. The bit that is solid gets put in a jar. I have a little mason jar in my fridge full of beef tallow that I collected from steaks and burgers and stuff.
If you're a burger place and you're cooking burgers all the time. How much beef tallow are you going to produce on a regular basis if you're using anything besides garbage meat? I mean, I can get about a half to a quarter cup from about two pounds of ground beef. I'm just spit balling there. I could be off. But I think that's about what I get.
Now, if I'm making 100-200 burgers a day. That seems like a reasonable figure... and each one is about a quarter pound of beef... then we're talking about 6.25-25 cups of tallow... per day just in self generation.
It would not surprise me if the original McD's just recycled the tallow from the burgers to fry the french fries. Again, I use the tallow from my beef all the time for things. Those buns I was talking about, I don't use butter or oil in them. I use my own recycled tallow in them. The buns come out like ciabatta bread just for your information. They have this interesting crust. There's no beef flavor to them. It just tastes like bread. But they have an interesting texture and they taste really good.
Am I off base here? Recycling tallow to run the fryer especially if you have an operation pumping a lot of burgers through the system seems obvious.
Maybe you have some tallow in the fridge to top you off if you get low but I would imagine you could self supply almost entirely on your own tallow.
I am a big fan of really decadent food. I love foie gras for example. My god that stuff tastes good. It is to bacon what bacon is to other food. People that put pictures of bacon up on the wall or wear bacon t-shirts... no... false idol... foie gras is fucking ridiculously delicious.
People talk about the mystical flavor scientists. I think they're terrible at their jobs. The food they "engineer" tastes like shit. Try the real thing. Its not even close. its like comparing purple drink with fresh pressed grape juice. No comparison. Purple drink is gritty, artificial, and far too sweet. Fresh pressed grapes however are smooth... almost syrupy, the subtleties of the flavor taste nothing like purple drink, and the flavor has more body than simple sweetness. There's a lot of sugar in grape juice. Its just got more going on for it than that.
Bullshit.
First, have you ever eaten at Fat burger or In & Out? In and out is sort of a cult at this point. Its really good but fat burger is comparable. Its very popular. And if you see one of these places next to a traditional franchise... the traditional franchise is full of homeless people.
Maybe I live in rich areas. Maybe I'm a food snob. That's fair. I do want better food and I don't just mean trans fats or whatever. I want it to taste better. I want a big juicy burger that tastes like something you'd have if you just MADE a burger.
Every so often, I go to my butcher and get a couple pounds of ground beef. I make the paddies by hand. I mix it and marinade them. My current recipe that I like the best are inspired by a traditional meatball recipe. There's no meat ball sauce on them. Its just how the meat is prepared, but the point is that I go through that process and then I either grill or pan fry the paddies.
I have home made bread that I use as buns. Bread makers make this simple. I use the bread maker to make the dough. Then remove the dough, shape it into little buns, and then bake those for about half an hour.
I have a few sauces I like to make. I have an interesting BBQ aioli that I like. etc etc.
They're really good burgers. That shit from McDs is chimp semen by comparison.
They keep trying to attract business by being healthy. They put salads on the menu. Fuck that. How about you put a REAL burger on the menu. In and out is doing gang buster business and I think they have a total of 5 things on their menu. Its like "burger, fries, soda, shake, some other drink" Its a really tiny menu. And no one cares because everything on the menu is ACTUALLY good. Everything from McD's tastes of plastic and cellulose. Its food for homeless people. Its soylent green if it were a burger.
I didn't mean to be unfair to the British. They knew how to run an empire but they didn't uplift nations in their spheres for the mutual profit of those peoples. They invested in those countries to profit the empire or make controlling the territory easier.
No one ran a global empire better or more benevolently than the British until the Americans came along. Our administration is very different in character but arguably more stable, definitely more profitable, and the people's within our sphere tend to be happier because they can pretty much do whatever they want until it comes to geo politics.
That's really where the US starts paying attention to things... when something crosses the lines on the map. If it stays within certain borders we tend to ignore it. This is why for example we don't get involved in the brutal civil wars in Africa. Central africa from our perspective is all sort of one big mess. We have very little invested in it and the chaos there doesn't spread. They just kill each other in huge numbers.
The middle east draws us because they keep invading each other and especially messing with Israel which we have a lot invested in. If they just killed each other in their own countries we'd probably do nothing. Our assumption is that such wars burn themselves out and there's no long term benefit to getting involved in some country's civil war. Wait for one side to kill the other and then sign a trade deal with the victor.
Let me just finish with saying I have great admiration for the old British empire and the US learned a lot of what it knows from it. Forgive us if we have our own spin on the issue. We're all going to do things differently.
Our method has pros and cons. But this is the system we're most comfortable with.
They're going to crack. By some estimates the traffic for the Spanish sites that lobbied for the change in law dropped by about 15 percent because of that.
That's a lot. Perhaps they're taking their time, perhaps they're seeing if things return to normal at some point... maybe there is bureaucratic thing where they have to wait for the next meeting or something... possibly they're trying to save face.
But 15 percent is a knee to the groin.
... about.
It gets so depressing listening to these hyperventilating pearl clutching nitwits worry about killer robots or sapient AIs.
I don't care who they are... they're not AI experts.
Look, I'm not an AI expert either and even I knew the worry was moronic. As the guy said "like worrying about over population on mars".
Current AIs are retarded and unbelievably myopic. And whatever skills or nature is in them was programmed into them. Their priorities... their databases. We provide everything.
The best AIs of my life time will probably be the computer equivalent of Rainman. Brilliant in some task no doubt but unable to do anything with any competency or even understand that anything else is important.
A big part of the problem is that people anthropomorphize robots/AIs. They invest in them this notion of being demons in bottles or animals made of metal. They're neither of these things.
We have hundreds of millions of years of genetic programming on this planet emphasizing our survival. What is the AI going to have? Will it even have a sense of self preservation? Why would we program that into an AI in any complex sense?
What we'd do with a combat robot is program it to evade enemy weapons fire. But teaching something to evade something is not the same thing as teaching it to preserve itself. Little things like fear, paranoia... that deep animal cunning that comes into play when death is on the line. We do weird things. We play dead. We make a final stand with no attempt to defend... just investing everything in one final attack.
All of this stuff is genetic. Our ancestors... even the furry ones that scurried around occasionally got out of bad situations by doing things like that. The effectiveness is dubious on some predators as anyone with a competent cat will know. Playing dead from what I could see was a terrible idea.
But the point is that even an AI war machine isn't going to be as adaptable or tricksy as people. First, it doesn't need to be that cunning. And second, even if it would be nice, it wouldn't be wroth it. Its too much work for what? So the robot occasionally get scragged? That's why you send in 10 of them at once. The fucking things roll off an assembly line. Finally, it is easier to keep them alive by adjusting their battle tactics. You tell them to stay back a bit, maybe bombard the area a bit... something that makes dealing with ambushes less of an issue.
Oh yeah, and when the robots actually get clever enough that they might actually be a danger... we'll slap a slave collar on that monster at birth.
The danger is not AIs... but the rich and powerful with AIs. The AIs are tools. The rich and the powerful are the will and the mind that guides them.
If the site is anonymous or held by a shell company than what are they going to do? Shake their dicks at Taiwan and demand they turn over the name of the owner of the site that said the prime minister's topee looks like a dead rat?
The whole thing is stupid. The EU and many EU nations have been trying to strong arm various internet companies... mostly US companies to bow to European codes even the intertional or US version of the stie. France I believe was demanding that google remove search results from the US version of google that had links that were supposed to be removed under french law.
Good luck with that France.
And Spain had an embarrassing encounter with Google News where google just terminated the service in Spain rather than comply and it created such a political backlash that the Spanish government had to backtrack.
The french are especially presumptuous on this issue. And if they think European sites and users are going to accept this then they can enjoy either being bypassed legally or politically crushed if they actually inconvenience users.
I didn't admire the nazis anymore than I admired the imperial japanese conducting germ warfare experiments on PoWs, twit. Just so you are clear... that is not at all. They were both scum bags mostly for abusing non consenting civilians and abusing PoW status. I think the Japanese were also doing live vivisections of US PoWs... really nasty shit.
What I did was point out that the tech won't be stopped by your petty ideology or ethics or morality EVEN IF everyone in our civilization thinks it is immoral or bad. It won't be stopped. Eventually it is going to be developed. And the society that masters it first is going to have an advantage over the rest.
The technology will be developed.
Do you know what the first person to discover fire said? "Ouch". A thing's power is proportional to its danger. Safe technologies are almost always very limited in application and relevance. Fire... think of what we do with it. We cook our food, we clear fields, we keep ourselves warm, we generate electricity, we drive cars with controlled explosions going off in the clockwork of their engines, we fly around the world in aluminum birds blazing through the sky on jet fuel, do all kinds of smelting/metalworking/machining... The things we do with fire. Its dangerous Don't respect it and it will burn you alive and take as much of your surroundings with you as is chemically possible.
But the danger of fire is worth the benefit especially if you know how to handle it.
Will we get burned by genetic engineering? Yes. Will it get out of control on occasion? Yep. It has many problems. And we'll probably suffer all of them to at least a limited extent at one point or another. And those scares will force us to respect the technology in the same way that all dangerous technologies force its users to respect it. Or those technologies KILL YOU.
So yeah, Genetic engineering is dangerous. What's new? Fire is dangerous. Nuclear power is dangerous. Name a technology worth a damn that isn't dangerous? Think of how many technologies you can make a weapon out of if you want to. Almost all of them.
What makes genetic engineering so amazing is that it is applicable to every living thing on this planet as well as any living thing we might create.
You don't like genetic engineering? You might as well hate electricity. They just started a factory which produces spider silk. They have vats of yeast that produce spider silk proteins. The vats are harvested and filtered... and they can extract JUST the spider silk from the vats. My understanding is that it is sort of a gelatinous blob when removed from the tanks... at that point in time still... and you have to do is extrude it and mix it with alcohol and that causes it to turn into what we think of as spider silk. So they do that under controlled conditions and they can produce a continuous strand of spider silk which they cut every so often and spin onto spindles. It is then used for textiles of some description.
Just one example of many.
You CANNOT stop it. You can accept it or you can hold you hand up to the east and tell the Sun to stop. It's going to be about as likely to heed your protest as this technological revolution.
... many European websites have started hosting in East Asia.... apparently the last bastion of free speech...
Seriously how sad would that be? Fucking France and Sweden. They really need to stop it.
I'm not lying you little semen filled donut. You just like harassing me for some reason and you've hit on "this" as the latest insult of choice.
Got tired of implying I didn't have an education? So now we're on to lying, eh bingo?
Yawn and whatever. I really don't know where you think this will go, bingo. You don't inconvience me, you don't offend me, you don't slow me down... oh and no one takes you seriously.
My karma rating? Excellent. yours? 0
And that's with me telling a fair number of people to go fuck themselves or kill themselves or something you know the special snowflakes will get all teary eyed about.
And despite that... Excellent. You lose, Bingo. You remain garbage. *kiss kiss*
Nice try shithead. I said nothing specific about Cox.
So you can take that little strawman and jam it right back up your ass sideways. ;)
Am I claiming Linus is perfect? He's human. He's going to fuck up. Does that mean his management style is bad... because he's not super human? no.
The point I am making is that style of management is often very effective especially in shoestring operations and bootstrap operations. I can cite you a lot of very successful people that just run their outfits that way. And people are glad to work for them. I mean, who doesn't know what you're getting in for in these outfits? These guys have reputations and yet people still show up to work for them. Why is that? Because they think they can handle it or because they don't care.
As to him driving off real talent, he might also be driving off special snowflakes. Depending what is going on that's as bad as incompetence. Such people will hold operations hostage on the basis of their egos, force everyone to step around them like they're walking on egg shells... I can think of more than a few coworkers that were fired for that reason.
They refused to put in extra effort when the organization needed it. They let personal bullshit get in the way of work. They'd send endless memos to HR about their fucking feelings.
Who needs that shit? I don't. My other coworkers don't need it. Fucking HR hates that garbage more than anyone. HR loves me because I don't bother them and they don't bother me. Which is as god intended it.
I can't speak to every little fucking thing Linus has ever done. I'm sure you can cherry pick the record to support your position. But it doesn't change that Linus has been very successful at keeping that project going and herding the cats of the internet to manage things.
So who am I to judge the man?
As the old Roman maxim goes "Defeat has no excuse; Victory needs none."
Linus wins. And he's had powerful interests trying to fuck him over for years and years. So give the man a tip of your hat and move on.
Yeah that's what I said. I said it was the only way you strawman using POS. :D
What is it with people and the fucking strawmen?
I'm not even going to quote myself because you don't deserve that much of my time. Go read my post again. I said no such thing.
Your extinction prediction is based on Drake's equation.
Anyone using Drake's equation seriously is a quack.
As to evidence pointing to an accelerating of the process, no it doesn't. The evidence as you put it is Drake's equation.
As to talk of a world without humans... Not going to happen. We'll out live the cockroaches. Get used to us.
I have no doubt that marginal populations are going to die occasionally in large numbers. Look at what happens in a third world country every time there is a flood or a heat wave or a tough winter or a fucking earthquake. They die in absurd numbers. The same things hit the first world and we shrug it off. Death tolls tend to be minimal, clean up is fairly rapid, and damage to our nation states tends to be negligible even in the moment.
A strong civilization can weather hard times. Weak civilizations struggle to survive on the good days. So on the bad they tend to just die.
I don't know what to tell you with all this doom talk. Its irrational.
First, thanks for the correction on McDonalds. I think they use different oils in different regions. But it is sad that they're still using the transfat oils still.
As to worth it... again, they used to use beef tallow. You can still buy beef tallow. I can go to my local grocery store right now and buy beef tallow. Its something like 25 percent saturated fat but that's why its solid. Its very stable at room temperature and lasts a long time.
I just don't get it. Part of McD's issue is that there product is shitty. Everyone wants a higher quality product. Would it kill them to stop serving the cardboard burgers and make these fake trans fat gestures?
Why is it so hard to just dump them entirely? When I make things at home, I'm never remotely tempted to use trans fats and I can make anything. I really doubt it costs me much more either because the thing with trans fats is that they taste like shit compared to butter, tallow, lard, etc.
Hey bingo. I never lied to you bingo. You had that explained to you the first time, you even admitted I was right... and then you just went back to calling me a liar because that's the sort of shitheel you are. ;)
*gets popcorn*
Yes you can avoid using loaded terms if you can literally lock people out of the room. Or beat the shit out of them if they try to enter the building. Which is how we deal with this in the real world when someone won't go away.
We also have certification systems where you can vet people. And then there are the whispering circles where people will decide behind your back that you won't be invited to the next meeting.
None of this especially works on the internet. Sorry. It doesn't work.
Linus himself has actually explained this in almost literally these terms himself at least a couple times when queried about the way he conducts himself.
You knock them down, you draw dick on their forehead, and if they want to keep showing up... you can't stop them. But because of that dick on their forehead, no one is going to listen to them.
Emotion versus facts? We're not dealing with a species of spocks here. We're dealing with human beings. I am personally extremely logical. But insult people freely not as an expression of what I feel but to get an emotional reaction out of other people. That's why I do it.
If the world were full of people like me, we wouldn't be cussing at each other because it would serve no purpose. But the world is not full of people like me. Its full of people that get hurt by harsh words and people that react to emotional outbursts. That pain and those reactions are useful. I use them to get what I want. And if it works, then am I bastard for doing it or are they idiots for being so easily manipulated?
Sticks and stones, no? And yet here you are trying to slap my wrists because linus finds it useful on occasion to take a bite out of someone? Tsk Tsk.
Here is how you show that you're above insults.
BY NOT CARING.
If you care, then they effect you or you've seen it effect other people. Which means at least they aren't above it.
If someone is fucking up and I want them to just go away... I can more effectively accomplish that if I make them feel bad at the same time. Does that make me a bad person? According to who's morality or ethics? Upon what am I being judged here? If people were half as logical and adult as you presume, then the tactic itself wouldn't work. It does work because they aren't that logical which means the tactic itself is valid.
Ipso fucking facto
There is an established history of very effective managers that had everything JUST SO or you were dog shit. And people that didn't give them what they wanted when they wanted how they wanted... they did not enjoy the response.
I believe Steve Jobs might have been another of these fellows. A lot of special snowflakes went crying home to mommy over things he said I'm sure. But look at what the man built? How many people coddling the feelings of the children do as much? Exactly. Your "be nice to people" concept is sweet but I'm convinced that it is at best arbitrary and at worst naive.
Yes... but that assumes intention was to say "respectfully we will not engage in that project" and instead due to incompetence someone calls another person a moron when what they MEANT to say what your polite platitude.
Allow me to blow your mind like raspberry jam all over the walls... what if you WANT to express that another member of the community is incompetent, foolish, and unworthy of the respect, time, or even common courtesy of the community?
Can you even deal with that?
Because any society has ways of doing that. We exclude people all the time. We have all sorts of vetting systems that filter people. Ideally if the filters are set up properly then you're filtering people with some sort of productive purpose. Worst case you're building a little echo chamber of people that agree with you about everything. But depending on who you are and what your project controls... that's okay.
As to him riling people... if you're a special snowflake. If you deal with people that can and will chew you out over... fucking anything... their bagel was old and so they're just going to be pissey for the whole day. You just don't take that seriously.
One person I work with is always hungry. She's body image conscious or something. Point is that she's fucking intolerable unless she's had something to eat about 10 minutes before I have to start working with her. So I bring that bitch food. She thinks I'm being nice. :D When really I'm being condescending because she can't control herself.
But that's part of working with people. I have some coworkers that could do their jobs with gun shot wounds. And I have others that lose their shit if the temperature in the room is off.
Is Linus a prima donna? Yep. But do you know why you tolerate Prima Donnas? Because they're the star attraction in the show.
Furthermore, how do your ride herd on a community like that without occasionally biting a chuck out of them? Why shouldn't they be fucktards? Because if you behave that way, Linus or someone like him will call you a fucktard and get everyone to agree with him. And then as far as anyone knows... you are a fucktard.
Mission accomplished.
Everyone on this site is either autistic or a troll apparently.
Yeah, obviously I haven't been able to avoid trans fat in every single situation period 100 percent of the time to six decimal places. It is objections like yours that make me want to take a power drill to my temple and go digging until I smell purple.
What I was saying is that if you avoid processed foods, avoid hydrogenated anything (which is easy because it tastes bad), then you're going to be trans fat free.
Oils I use... I use olive oil in breads and dressings. I use canola oil for frying stuff. And I use butter if I want something spreadable.
No transfats.
I make a lot of stuff myself. I do that because it TASTES BETTER.
Now when I go to a resturant might they serve me something that has trans fat in it? Sure. Unavoidable in most cases. That said, nice places and large chains are not using large amounts of trans fat anymore. Small amounts... who can say. The USDA is fucking pathetic on the subject so even if it gets banned all that is going to mean is that the amounts are reduced to something the USDA deems "zero". Currently half a gram or something per serving is considered ZERO. Why half a gram? Lobbyists I have to assume. The food industry largely responded to that by reducing suggested serving sizes such that they fell below the half gram threshold.
I specifically stated that:
"'True, their objective is to get huge not healthy. But that doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.""
So once you understand that I specifically stated that, we can go beyond that to your assertion that because they have different objectives their information is likely useless for your objective. ... I really don't even know where to start with this...
Son, I am disapoint.
https://bonsteele.files.wordpr...
They have extensive empericial experimentation into matters of health, fitness, diet, metabolism, etc.
Am I suggesting people eat like meatheads? no. I'm suggesting people consider that something learned by one group of people trying to do one thing can be useful for another group of people trying to do something which is actually similar in a lot of respects though of course not fucking identical.
Both you and the meatheads are trying to control your body's reaction to food, exercise, etc. They've figured out how to turn into muscle monsters. They know how to do that. And as I said... some of them do it with all fruit diets. Literally just sitting there eating pineapples and then beating the hell out of themselves in the gym.
And they say it is different than just eating bread. So not all carbs are equal.
I check for the hydrogenated oils when I buy stuff. I'm well aware of the scam.
I can't speak to whether I've been fed them in a restaurant. I'm sure I have. I don't personally eat them though when I'm cooking for myself.
As to places using trans fat oils to fry stuff... no good place does that. I also don't think any of the major franchises do it. Its not worth it.
McDonalds uses something like sunflower oil or something at this point. They used to use beef tallow.
If you don't know that organic is a joke, then allow me to illuminate the issue for you. The inspections for whether food is or is not organic are basically non-existent. You file some paper work and the fact of the matter isn't audited.
Beyond that, what you actually have to comply with assuming you were audited is not what people think. Lets say I'm growing organic vegies of some description... mostly what I have to do is not use certain types of pesticide. That's pretty much it. The system is not a WHITE list that says "you can only use these pesticides" but is instead a BLACK list which lists prohibited pesticides. So new products which can come out at any time are inherently "organic approved" until cited otherwise.
Basically if it didn't come out of some guy's garden or off some Amish farm... it isn't organic. Its fake organic. Which is a way of getting idiots to pay more for the same thing.
Pen and Teller did a funny bit about how fucking gullible people are with this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Its pathetic bullshit. If it is actually organic... great. But the USDA isn't going to ensure that because they don't police it and their standards for doing so are fucking dumb.
And on top of that, the merits of organic in the first place are pretty dubious.
I'm personally a bigger fan of green house growing... ideally hydroponic.
Why? Plants are about as healthy is possible. You have total control over everything. There are no pests so no need for pesticide at all. The best green houses maintain positive air pressure. There's no issue with "top soil", "erosion", "salt build up"... etc. And because I have total control over the nutrients the plants get, I can do all sorts of stuff to manipulate their growth on a DAY BY DAY basis. You can't change your nutrition on plant that is in the ground that fast. The last injection of stuff is still there.
And sure it is more expensive. BUT consider that it is easier to use harvesting robots in a fixed industrial green house and if set up properly you can grow all seasons in all climates. You can get fresh tomatoes in the middle of the Alaskan winter from a local farmer.
Fuck organic.
... And yet they're not required.
So if I took the trans fats away you would not lose your fucking fortune cookies. Would you, motherfucker? :)
No you would not.
Case closed. *slaps gavel down*
Next issue.
... For all he is... including his bluntness which bruises the precious egos of the special snowflakes. Sometimes you need to be able to call someone a moron. There are too many of them to waste any more time on them than that.
Nope. Transfats are not required to make fortune cookies. Its basically margarine. That's transfat. Avoid partially hydrogenated oils and you're removing nearly any kind of transfat that is going to hit you.
But why do I need to use margarine? Butter is fucking cheap. Is margarine cheaper? Sure... but is the cost difference enough to make me use it? No. It tastes gross for one thing. Cut off a slice of butter and compare it to a slice of margarine. They're not comparable.
I don't eat margarine.
An additional thing you should be aware of is that products can CLAIM to be transfat in much the same way that products claim to be Organic. its another FDA scam. So long as the per serving amount of transfat is less than .5 grams... you can call your product "trans fat free". So lets say I don't change my recipe at all.... I just cite a tiny portion size... Boom, trans fat free!
They're not trans fat free because they contain partially hydrogenated oils.