Just takes a while. First, protobacteria, then little bugs that spew out CO2 and methane, then some oxygen, wait a few million years and you have Target and Martha Stewart.
It's not like world conquest or elimination of neighbours HASN'T been attempted before. It's not like it won't be attempted again (if we as a species live long enough).
Don't even need to be competing for resources to be a threat. It could be ideology, mental instability of leaders. Fear from the other side. Anything could drive them to war.
We'll probably be different enough that we can't trade. We'll certainly be different enough that we can't trade daughters in marriage agreements like nations of old did.
Yes, but we are advancing. Wouldn't it be safer to wipe us out BEFORE we're a threat- rather than risk waiting until we might be able to put up a fight?
Quite sure. Not only that- but it was demonstrated in the 1940's in Japan. There are enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world many times over. We could wipe ourselves out if we chose.
Will help mine. I always took the "colonize like crazy" approach. By the time rival species are able to attack- you can afford to lose a few planets- and will be so far ahead of them by all other metrics you can quickly build a fleet to defeat them. More planets available makes this strategy even better.
Never played Moo3. But on Moo2- I found this strategy worked: declare war on the strongest enemy- do what it takes to get everyone else that you can to join in... you will get so much kudos for being in a mutal war- everyone will love you... you then take out the next biggest threat (getting everyone to join in)... then the next... then the next... and so on. If you get others to join in each time- your relationship with everyone will sky rocket meaning after the 2nd species you wipe out- you'll be able to get anyone you want to do whatever you want.
If they receive an I Love Lucy transmission- are able to determine it's purpose is TV entertainment- and figure out how to turn it into light/sound...... we're all doomed- they'll send a death ray at us with immediate effect.
Or they have natural immunity via evolution. Species on earth have differing tolerances. Besides we can't expect alien life to use "DNA" unless populated via panspermia. It is possible their equivalent to our DNA (if they have one) is not affected by UV.
As cool as it would be to find another civilization- I hope we never do. At least- no one more advanced than us. (any one less advanced we probably would never find).
Chances of another civilization/species being friendly would be low. Think of it this way.
1) Anyone more advanced than us would likely have computers. - if you have advanced computers- you would eventually rely on them for advice (at minimum) for running your government/civilization. We can therefore determine that their civilization would base decisions based on logic.
2) Logically- allowing another sapient species to exist would be a threat. There is always a possibility they will attack you, or compete for resources. The logical thing any sapient species should do to any other sapient species is wipe them out (if they can).
- you can always study a civilization from the ruins of their lands- after you exterminate them. We already have the technology to exterminate ourselves- so it is safe to assume any other more advanced species would too.
If the civilizations expired millions of years ago- and the planet is geologically active- there would probably be no trace.
If the civilization were more advanced than ours- we probably wouldn't know what to look for- and would probably never find them unless we landed there.
Nah... Sealand is smaller than the footprint required to launch a rocket. Also, at that latitude it would be more difficult than at the equator. They would need to aquire territory near the equator and with a military of two people- that might be tough.
No-one has done anything illegal... except for shoot at civilians in boats. Stage armed invasions. Use and take British military equipment without permission. Kidnap foreign nationals. Data Piracy. Tax evasion. Smuggling. Oh and Various cases for treason could be applied too.
Residents of "Sealand" have broken lots of laws and show themselves to be quite indifferent to the laws of the land. The reason no-one deals with Sealand is because it would be a political hassel. They've broken plenty of laws.
In my town they used the "Kicking them out for their own safety" line.
- which may have been one of those white lies... yeah, there were possible safety issues- but I'm sure it's more because they didn't want tourism damaged.
Don't forget the "free speech zones" that Bush would set up. He would arrest people from protesting him unless they were in neatly cordoned off sections away from where he and the media would be located.
When you can't protest against your own government that is bad.
What if I go to school, behave properly, don't cause no trouble, learn well, act well and so on, then go home and spit poison all over the Internet regarding this and that? Why would the school throw me out?
So you're saying you cause some trouble. That must be why they would throw you out.;)
If you go into a crowded cinema and shout "FIRE!" you will be arrested for invoking panic. If you tell a police officer you're going to shoot him- you'll be arrested for threatening a police officer.
The UK has laws against inciting racial hatred. You may or may not agree with that; however, you shouldn't see the concept as too much different from the US... where saying certain things in certain ways can get you arrested.
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What if all they showed on alien cable channels was reality show crap?
"Oh my Gawd, like this bimbo from Orion totally stabbed me in both of my backs. The Pegasus 457 bachelor was like, totally mine."
Just takes a while. First, protobacteria, then little bugs that spew out CO2 and methane, then some oxygen, wait a few million years and you have Target and Martha Stewart.
So, it's not all progress then.
It's not like world conquest or elimination of neighbours HASN'T been attempted before. It's not like it won't be attempted again (if we as a species live long enough).
Don't even need to be competing for resources to be a threat. It could be ideology, mental instability of leaders. Fear from the other side. Anything could drive them to war.
We'll probably be different enough that we can't trade. We'll certainly be different enough that we can't trade daughters in marriage agreements like nations of old did.
Yes, but we are advancing. Wouldn't it be safer to wipe us out BEFORE we're a threat- rather than risk waiting until we might be able to put up a fight?
I expect to see men on street corners around Denver holding signs:
"Will Poo for Food."
Really?
Are you *SURE* about that?
Quite sure. Not only that- but it was demonstrated in the 1940's in Japan. There are enough nuclear weapons to destroy the world many times over. We could wipe ourselves out if we chose.
Will help mine. I always took the "colonize like crazy" approach. By the time rival species are able to attack- you can afford to lose a few planets- and will be so far ahead of them by all other metrics you can quickly build a fleet to defeat them. More planets available makes this strategy even better.
Never played Moo3. But on Moo2- I found this strategy worked: declare war on the strongest enemy- do what it takes to get everyone else that you can to join in... you will get so much kudos for being in a mutal war- everyone will love you... you then take out the next biggest threat (getting everyone to join in)... then the next... then the next... and so on. If you get others to join in each time- your relationship with everyone will sky rocket meaning after the 2nd species you wipe out- you'll be able to get anyone you want to do whatever you want.
If they receive an I Love Lucy transmission- are able to determine it's purpose is TV entertainment- and figure out how to turn it into light/sound... ... we're all doomed- they'll send a death ray at us with immediate effect.
Or they have natural immunity via evolution. Species on earth have differing tolerances. Besides we can't expect alien life to use "DNA" unless populated via panspermia. It is possible their equivalent to our DNA (if they have one) is not affected by UV.
I'm sorry- but if you're going to use my poo to power your rickshaw- I expect to be paid for it. I worked long and hard producing that poo.
As cool as it would be to find another civilization- I hope we never do. At least- no one more advanced than us. (any one less advanced we probably would never find).
Chances of another civilization/species being friendly would be low. Think of it this way.
1) Anyone more advanced than us would likely have computers.
- if you have advanced computers- you would eventually rely on them for advice (at minimum) for running your government/civilization. We can therefore determine that their civilization would base decisions based on logic.
2) Logically- allowing another sapient species to exist would be a threat. There is always a possibility they will attack you, or compete for resources. The logical thing any sapient species should do to any other sapient species is wipe them out (if they can).
- you can always study a civilization from the ruins of their lands- after you exterminate them. We already have the technology to exterminate ourselves- so it is safe to assume any other more advanced species would too.
If the civilizations expired millions of years ago- and the planet is geologically active- there would probably be no trace.
If the civilization were more advanced than ours- we probably wouldn't know what to look for- and would probably never find them unless we landed there.
Nah... Sealand is smaller than the footprint required to launch a rocket. Also, at that latitude it would be more difficult than at the equator. They would need to aquire territory near the equator and with a military of two people- that might be tough.
No-one has done anything illegal... except for shoot at civilians in boats. Stage armed invasions. Use and take British military equipment without permission. Kidnap foreign nationals. Data Piracy. Tax evasion. Smuggling. Oh and Various cases for treason could be applied too.
Residents of "Sealand" have broken lots of laws and show themselves to be quite indifferent to the laws of the land. The reason no-one deals with Sealand is because it would be a political hassel. They've broken plenty of laws.
In my town they used the "Kicking them out for their own safety" line.
- which may have been one of those white lies... yeah, there were possible safety issues- but I'm sure it's more because they didn't want tourism damaged.
Well, in that case - that's the New York movement. There were other places where they were cleared out from public land.
I actually have mixed feelings on it. If they are infringing on other's rights- absolutely... clear them out...
I suspect in some scenarios- others rights being infringed was the motivation- in others the city just didn't want them and used that as an excuse.
Of course. Speech never causes anybody any harm.
willl no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
Don't forget the "free speech zones" that Bush would set up. He would arrest people from protesting him unless they were in neatly cordoned off sections away from where he and the media would be located.
When you can't protest against your own government that is bad.
I played rugby as a kid and never stared at any mans butt. That's only Am Foot.
So you're saying only rich people should have access to public spaces- and free speech?
How exactly is that free speech? It should be for all- not just the rich.
What if I go to school, behave properly, don't cause no trouble, learn well, act well and so on, then go home and spit poison all over the Internet regarding this and that? Why would the school throw me out?
So you're saying you cause some trouble. That must be why they would throw you out. ;)
But, apparently, not freedom of speech.
Even in the US there are exceptions.
If you go into a crowded cinema and shout "FIRE!" you will be arrested for invoking panic. If you tell a police officer you're going to shoot him- you'll be arrested for threatening a police officer.
The UK has laws against inciting racial hatred. You may or may not agree with that; however, you shouldn't see the concept as too much different from the US... where saying certain things in certain ways can get you arrested.
They could place an add for free beer... umm... free appletinis.
Based on who responded to the ad- they could collect a list... worst of all- they need never give out the free appletinis.
You just diarrheared my brain with that.