I guess the answer is to make Amazon carry every title ever written. Or maybe to let the whiners buy their stuff elsewhere if they feel so strongly about it.
It is rather amusing to hear the self-righteous, pseudo-intellectual prattling on both sides. High marks for entertainment value. I'm sure God, or the Great Pumpkin, or the holder of the Great White Handkerchief (I favor the former, but to each his or her own) is laughing out loud at our sense of self-importance.
Censorship, not censorship...who cares? Amazon is (rightly) free to decide which titles they carry. You are (rightly) free to decide where you spend your money. It is the *free* market after all. Funny how those who hate the free market really hate the 'free' part.
And the Bible? Really? Amazon decides not to carry some books and folks start trashing the Bible? I guess its naive of me to expect better but, seriously, is that the best argument you can make?
I look at the link and I think, "Gosh, is the Wall Street Journal capable of delivering an objective opinion on this? They do, after all, have a stake in the issue."
So I click through, and there's the sub-head: "The campaign to regulate the Internet was funded by a who's who of left-liberal foundations."
Technically, I have to actually read the article to come up with an opinion. But I had a chili dog for lunch, and I don't need to be nauseated any further. I might even agree with the article's conclusion, but I doubt I'll find the reasoning sound.
So you're willing to pass judgement without reading the whole article? Very enlightened and progressive. Really.
Do you trust someone with a profit motive to screw with your connection, or someone with a political motive?
Profit motive. Because I can take my business elsewhere.
And since when has any government regulating body ever been satisfied being limited to their original mandate? Exactly what was the FCC's original purpose? Don't underestimate the desire to hold power over others, even from government functionaries. *Especially* from government functionaries.
Just like lawyers don't have an financial interest in tort reform and accountants don't have an financial interest in tax reform, now MS doesn't have a financial interest in producing a stable, secure product. To the contrary, if they did, they'd lose the $50/mo/user revenue stream created by the security holes in their own product.
Wonderful. Is there an antitrust issue somewhere in here?
"SQL Server Express is one of two free databases we tested and is actually Microsoft's replacement for its earlier free offering the Microsoft Desktop Engine (MSDE) which was based on the old Access technology"
Huh? How are we to believe an article that makes such a preposterous claim? MSDE IS SQL Server 2000 with a restriction on the number of concurrent connections. Makes me take the rest of the article with a grain of salt.
In light of the ridiculously inaccurate and uninformed portrayals of ID in this discussion, it would be worthwhile step back and re-examine what ID espouses (or more accurately, what questions ID asks). Here's a good summary:
"Although Intelligent Design may have been born out of opposition to the theory of evolution, it does not oppose the concept of evolution as a mechanism for directed, intelligent creation, nor even for limited, apparently undirected natural change. Ostensibly its main purpose is to investigate whether or not there is empirical evidence that life on Earth was designed by an intelligent agent or agents."
Does this affect things like the Google toolbar (or any of the other available toolbars for IE)? Or does this specifically refer to objects *w/in* the web page?
One point that most seem to be missing is the consequence of *not* pursuing this technology. Consider, for example, what would happen if a country such as Russia or China came to possess weapons based on nuclear isomer technology. Or, God forbid, a country such as Iran or North Korea came to possess them. In that case, doesn't the U.S. Government have the responsibility to its citizens to possess the means to deter an aggressive move by such a country? With the exception of Iran, each of these countries has demonstrated an aggressive desire to dominate and enslave its neighbors at one point or another in the last 50 years. (Russia may be an exception here - there seems to be a genuine change taking place in Russia that is quite promising. I suppose time will tell whether they have truly turned the corner.) This nation, on the other hand, has demonstrated its commitment to protecting, where strategically feasible, the victims of such aggression.
Its naive to believe that other countries aren't pursuing nuclear isomer weapons. Just prior to and during WWII, several countries (Germany, the United States, Great Britian, and later the USSR) recognized the weapon potential inherent in emerging atomic theory. Does anybody think that the same thing is not happening now? I suppose we should count on these countries to abstain from such research out of their profound respect for the peace and prosperty of mankind!
Granted, this country has the economic resources that few other countries have, and those resources give it an advantage in the pursuit of new technologies. But, contrary to the cries of the radical left, that is a good thing! While we may stumble from time to time, the goodwill of the people of this country, the desire to protect the values of freedom and self-determination is unrivaled in history.
Simply ignoring this beast, or any other, won't make it go away. Rather, we must master it so that our children don't live under the thumb of those whose only desire is to conquer and destroy.
IE Toolbars are simple self-registering COM objects. That means that they are controlled by registry entries. If one gets installed, its a simple matter of deleting the associated registry entries to keep it from loading. IE looks in the following key for toolbars which it should load:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE Software Microsoft Interne t Explorer Toolbar {Your Band Object's CLSID GUID}
Find its CLSID and remove it. Also remove the object's COM registry entry by removing the following key:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT CLSID {Your Band Object's CLSID GUID}
Be careful though - the menu, address, links, radio, etc... toolbars are also controlled this way. Make sure you're deleting the right entries!
Unless there's some other program running in the background that re-establishes these keys, there isn't any way that IE can load the toolbar if these entries are not present.
Kelly lexteq.com (we've done a few toolbars ourselves)
Java servlets will beat c/c++/perl/[name your favorite language or scripting environment] in nearly all cases. The exceptions will be isapi/nsapi/apache modules written directly to the webserver api.
The other benefit is the fact that you have access to the full java api, which provides extremely rich functionality - anything from sending email to building images on the fly is quite easily implemented.
Granted, the source isn't available yet (I think I heard July as the target date?). However, the beta is, and it *is* free (MPL).
Its not a question of "delivering". The plan all along has been to release v6.0 as open source. Since v6 hasn't been released (yet), neither has the source.
You're saying that because he's a vegan, he somehow should have higher moral standards? Or maybe that we can forgive some of his more petty flaws because he's a vegan?
My point is that neither the internet, nor Doom, nor guns are to blame. The problem lies with a society in which cutting sarcasm and ridicule are accepted modes of communication (think about that if you choose to respond) and parental indifference is rampant.
However, that is not to say that the "things" in question don't have a part to play, and we should examine that. What we do about it is problematic - we could take away all internet access and combat role-playing games. But what good would that do? It was illegal for them to have guns, yet they had them. It was illegal for them to make bombs, but they made them. What should we do? Make it illegal for kids to go into a hardware store?
The problem is a moral one - the morals of our society suck. Its fair to examine what restrictions our kids should be under. But violent kids are a product of neglect and ridicule, from both parents and peers.
There isn't anything necessarily bad about the internet or even games like Doom. They're just "things" and as such don't have any inherent moral value. They're neither good nor bad.
I think its safe to assume that these kids were socially deviant, and would have been regardless of their exposure to the internet, combat role-playing games, or any other "thing" that we could choose to blame for this mess.
There were apparently some deep issues such as rejection, feelings of isolation, depression, etc.... These seem to be the result of being singled out and ridiculed by other kids, and I guess in that sense there's plenty of blame to go around. Ultimately, however, these 2 (or more) kids are the only ones responsible for what happened in Littleton. They are the ones that chose to act. Unfortunately, we can only assume that they are now paying the price.
I think its important, however, to realise that while the 'net and the other things are not to blame, they did play their part. Kids like this tend to hang out on the net and find other like-minded kids - thus easing some of the isolation. In the process they reinforce their anger towards those kids who pick on them. In the process they also find resources that facilitate the destruction on the scale that we saw on Tuesday. Anybody care to bet where they got the instructions for the pipe bombs?
As for games like Doom, its my *opinion* that if there is already a predisposition towards violence, then Doom certainly doesn't help. We have to admit that some of our toys have a very real down side.
That said, do we restrict access to such things? I don't think that is the answer. Think about guns for a minute. It was certainly illegal for those kids to have guns, much less take them to school. As if that mattered.... As one of the talking heads said, a disturbed kid and only his fists leads only to a fist fight. A normal kid and a gun leads to hunting with his dad. Put the two together and it may lead to disaster. I think we can make a similar argument about the 'net and games like Doom.
The problem lies not in the net, Doom, or even guns, though all have their part to play. (Lets not hide our head in the sand on that.) The problem lies at home and at school. Unstable or unattentive parents, ridicule among other kids - these are things that *create* disasters like this one. Other things may enhance or facilitate, but without cause, there is no effect.
Like we used to say in the old days, just my $0.02 worth:-)
GPC (GNU Pascal), not GCC (GNU C/C++) does object Pascal - but only of the type supported by Borland Pascal 7.x. It does not yet support Delphi Classes. Free Pascal (aka FPK Pascal) supports the Delphi object model.
I currently use C++ Builder for professional development and it rocks. An X port (for Linux of course) would make my life!
I can't think of a single event that would do more to accelerate the development of crucial Linux apps than that.
Of course, this begs the question of which toolkit the vcl will be based upon:-) Since the win vcl is based on mfc's (through object pascal) it seems that qt would be the most likely candidate.
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I guess the answer is to make Amazon carry every title ever written. Or maybe to let the whiners buy their stuff elsewhere if they feel so strongly about it.
It is rather amusing to hear the self-righteous, pseudo-intellectual prattling on both sides. High marks for entertainment value. I'm sure God, or the Great Pumpkin, or the holder of the Great White Handkerchief (I favor the former, but to each his or her own) is laughing out loud at our sense of self-importance.
Censorship, not censorship...who cares? Amazon is (rightly) free to decide which titles they carry. You are (rightly) free to decide where you spend your money. It is the *free* market after all. Funny how those who hate the free market really hate the 'free' part.
And the Bible? Really? Amazon decides not to carry some books and folks start trashing the Bible? I guess its naive of me to expect better but, seriously, is that the best argument you can make?
I look at the link and I think, "Gosh, is the Wall Street Journal capable of delivering an objective opinion on this? They do, after all, have a stake in the issue."
So I click through, and there's the sub-head: "The campaign to regulate the Internet was funded by a who's who of left-liberal foundations."
Technically, I have to actually read the article to come up with an opinion. But I had a chili dog for lunch, and I don't need to be nauseated any further. I might even agree with the article's conclusion, but I doubt I'll find the reasoning sound.
So you're willing to pass judgement without reading the whole article? Very enlightened and progressive. Really.
-k
Do you trust someone with a profit motive to screw with your connection, or someone with a political motive?
Profit motive. Because I can take my business elsewhere.
And since when has any government regulating body ever been satisfied being limited to their original mandate? Exactly what was the FCC's original purpose? Don't underestimate the desire to hold power over others, even from government functionaries. *Especially* from government functionaries.
-k
Um...no. What open source project stands to make a financial windfall by have an unstable or unsecure product?
Just like lawyers don't have an financial interest in tort reform and accountants don't have an financial interest in tax reform, now MS doesn't have a financial interest in producing a stable, secure product. To the contrary, if they did, they'd lose the $50/mo/user revenue stream created by the security holes in their own product.
Wonderful. Is there an antitrust issue somewhere in here?
-k
"SQL Server Express is one of two free databases we tested and is actually Microsoft's replacement for its earlier free offering the Microsoft Desktop Engine (MSDE) which was based on the old Access technology"
Huh? How are we to believe an article that makes such a preposterous claim? MSDE IS SQL Server 2000 with a restriction on the number of concurrent connections. Makes me take the rest of the article with a grain of salt.
-k
In light of the ridiculously inaccurate and uninformed portrayals of ID in this discussion, it would be worthwhile step back and re-examine what ID espouses (or more accurately, what questions ID asks). Here's a good summary:
"Although Intelligent Design may have been born out of opposition to the theory of evolution, it does not oppose the concept of evolution as a mechanism for directed, intelligent creation, nor even for limited, apparently undirected natural change. Ostensibly its main purpose is to investigate whether or not there is empirical evidence that life on Earth was designed by an intelligent agent or agents."
From wikipedia.org -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
It never ceases to amaze me how virulently intolerant most supposedly 'tolerant' left-wing nuts are.
Does this affect things like the Google toolbar (or any of the other available toolbars for IE)? Or does this specifically refer to objects *w/in* the web page?
One point that most seem to be missing is the consequence of *not* pursuing this technology. Consider, for example, what would happen if a country such as Russia or China came to possess weapons based on nuclear isomer technology. Or, God forbid, a country such as Iran or North Korea came to possess them. In that case, doesn't the U.S. Government have the responsibility to its citizens to possess the means to deter an aggressive move by such a country? With the exception of Iran, each of these countries has demonstrated an aggressive desire to dominate and enslave its neighbors at one point or another in the last 50 years. (Russia may be an exception here - there seems to be a genuine change taking place in Russia that is quite promising. I suppose time will tell whether they have truly turned the corner.) This nation, on the other hand, has demonstrated its commitment to protecting, where strategically feasible, the victims of such aggression.
Its naive to believe that other countries aren't pursuing nuclear isomer weapons. Just prior to and during WWII, several countries (Germany, the United States, Great Britian, and later the USSR) recognized the weapon potential inherent in emerging atomic theory. Does anybody think that the same thing is not happening now? I suppose we should count on these countries to abstain from such research out of their profound respect for the peace and prosperty of mankind!
Granted, this country has the economic resources that few other countries have, and those resources give it an advantage in the pursuit of new technologies. But, contrary to the cries of the radical left, that is a good thing! While we may stumble from time to time, the goodwill of the people of this country, the desire to protect the values of freedom and self-determination is unrivaled in history.
Simply ignoring this beast, or any other, won't make it go away. Rather, we must master it so that our children don't live under the thumb of those whose only desire is to conquer and destroy.
-k
IE Toolbars are simple self-registering COM objects. That means that they are controlled by registry entries. If one gets installed, its a simple matter of deleting the associated registry entries to keep it from loading. IE looks in the following key for toolbars which it should load:
e t Explorer
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Software
Microsoft
Intern
Toolbar
{Your Band Object's CLSID GUID}
Find its CLSID and remove it. Also remove the object's COM registry entry by removing the following key:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT
CLSID
{Your Band Object's CLSID GUID}
Be careful though - the menu, address, links, radio, etc... toolbars are also controlled this way. Make sure you're deleting the right entries!
Unless there's some other program running in the background that re-establishes these keys, there isn't any way that IE can load the toolbar if these entries are not present.
Kelly
lexteq.com (we've done a few toolbars ourselves)
Java servlets will beat c/c++/perl/[name your favorite language or scripting environment] in nearly all cases. The exceptions will be isapi/nsapi/apache modules written directly to the webserver api. The other benefit is the fact that you have access to the full java api, which provides extremely rich functionality - anything from sending email to building images on the fly is quite easily implemented.
Just by way of clarification, Orrin Hatch is a Mormon, not a Christian. There is a world of difference between the two. kelly
So do you similarly distrust Mozilla? Interbase is being released w/ the same license.
Kelly
Granted, the source isn't available yet (I think I heard July as the target date?). However, the beta is, and it *is* free (MPL).
Its not a question of "delivering". The plan all along has been to release v6.0 as open source. Since v6 hasn't been released (yet), neither has the source.
Not everything is a conspiracy.
Kelly
You're saying that because he's a vegan, he somehow should have higher moral standards? Or maybe that we can forgive some of his more petty flaws because he's a vegan?
Jeez
Didn't I see Alan in a ZZ-Top video?
Kelly
My point is that neither the internet, nor Doom, nor guns are to blame. The problem lies with a society in which cutting sarcasm and ridicule are accepted modes of communication (think about that if you choose to respond) and parental indifference is rampant.
However, that is not to say that the "things" in question don't have a part to play, and we should examine that. What we do about it is problematic - we could take away all internet access and combat role-playing games. But what good would that do? It was illegal for them to have guns, yet they had them. It was illegal for them to make bombs, but they made them. What should we do? Make it illegal for kids to go into a hardware store?
The problem is a moral one - the morals of our society suck. Its fair to examine what restrictions our kids should be under. But violent kids are a product of neglect and ridicule, from both parents and peers.
Kelly
There isn't anything necessarily bad about the internet or even games like Doom. They're just "things" and as such don't have any inherent moral value. They're neither good nor bad.
:-)
I think its safe to assume that these kids were socially deviant, and would have been regardless of their exposure to the internet, combat role-playing games, or any other "thing" that we could choose to blame for this mess.
There were apparently some deep issues such as rejection, feelings of isolation, depression, etc.... These seem to be the result of being singled out and ridiculed by other kids, and I guess in that sense there's plenty of blame to go around. Ultimately, however, these 2 (or more) kids are the only ones responsible for what happened in Littleton. They are the ones that chose to act. Unfortunately, we can only assume that they are now paying the price.
I think its important, however, to realise that while the 'net and the other things are not to blame, they did play their part. Kids like this tend to hang out on the net and find other like-minded kids - thus easing some of the isolation. In the process they reinforce their anger towards those kids who pick on them. In the process they also find resources that facilitate the destruction on the scale that we saw on Tuesday. Anybody care to bet where they got the instructions for the pipe bombs?
As for games like Doom, its my *opinion* that if there is already a predisposition towards violence, then Doom certainly doesn't help. We have to admit that some of our toys have a very real down side.
That said, do we restrict access to such things? I don't think that is the answer. Think about guns for a minute. It was certainly illegal for those kids to have guns, much less take them to school. As if that mattered.... As one of the talking heads said, a disturbed kid and only his fists leads only to a fist fight. A normal kid and a gun leads to hunting with his dad. Put the two together and it may lead to disaster. I think we can make a similar argument about the 'net and games like Doom.
The problem lies not in the net, Doom, or even guns, though all have their part to play. (Lets not hide our head in the sand on that.) The problem lies at home and at school. Unstable or unattentive parents, ridicule among other kids - these are things that *create* disasters like this one. Other things may enhance or facilitate, but without cause, there is no effect.
Like we used to say in the old days, just my $0.02 worth
Kelly
GPC (GNU Pascal), not GCC (GNU C/C++) does object Pascal - but only of the type supported by Borland Pascal 7.x. It does not yet support Delphi Classes. Free Pascal (aka FPK Pascal) supports the Delphi object model.
I currently use C++ Builder for professional development and it rocks. An X port (for Linux of course) would make my life!
:-) Since the win vcl is based on mfc's (through object pascal) it seems that qt would be the most likely candidate.
I can't think of a single event that would do more to accelerate the development of crucial Linux apps than that.
Of course, this begs the question of which toolkit the vcl will be based upon