My point is NOT that the public library has any more or less information then what is available on the internet.
My point is that the informatin in the public library is free.
One of the things that I learned while I was working as a journalist in the U.S. Navy was how to properly perform research in a library setting. There are vast amounts of information available through fiche, periodicals and books that are simply NOT available on the internet.
Yes, there is a great deal of information on the internet. No doubt about it. But I would NEVER use information garnished through the internet as a reliable source. Information on the internet is only a STARTING place for real research. Facts found on the internet should ALWAYS be confirmed through some other means.
But none of that is the point. If you start making me pay for internet content, then I will find other forms of retrieving content that doesn't cost me. Why? Because in addition to being a great information database, the internet is also one of the biggest purveyors of mis-information. And you want me to pay for that?
I access content on the internet because it is free and readily available. Start charging for that content and it will be back to the old public library for me.
NASA is run by the US government. Of course they are going to have troubles
Actually, just because one group is having problems doesn't mean that another group will not be able to approach the problems from a fresh perspective.
It makes complete sense that a telco would not allow their bandwidth to be used for someone to protest their company. Would you expect McDonalds to be okay with letting PETA protesters carry their signs behind the cashier counter? Of course not.
If someone wants to run a sight protesting the telco, for whatever reason, they should run it on a server that is not connected with the telco.
We had this happen at a company I worked for a few years back.
We had pressured the company into paying for our MCSE certifications (classes and testing), after about a year of pressure, they finally agreed.
Initially, the company sent 3 persons to the classes. These folks signed the typical waver that would require them to repay the costs if they left after one year.
After the first group went to the classes, the company started to get afraid that they were just training us to be more attractive to the job market at that time, so they upped the requirement to two years instead of one for the next group that they sent to training.
One of the individuals balked at the offer and refused to sign the two-year agreement.
The company was very understanding, and simply gave his slot to someone else.
The company was right though, the individuals who signed the original one-year agreement left after the time was up.
Wow.
What I would really like is something like this on the nosecone of an ultralite. And instead of shooting down missiles, it would need to shoot down cars on the ground.
Okay. Maybe I'm a little tired of morning commutes...
I think that I have found a kindred spirit, someone who truly understands Slashdot's moderation / Karma system.
1. Here is how you get around the Karma max at 50: create a new account! Hell, I have got three! From experience, it took me a year to get my first account maxed out at 50, and then 3 months to max out the second.
2. Other ways to rack-up Karma: Write something (anything) humourous about Microsoft (carefull, sometimes you get marked down for being a troll). And finding misc. links to similar information is always a good way to get a few points, but it can be time consuming. Here is a great way to get a few extra Karma: Write something that is particularly scathing of Slashdot itself, as long as it is on topic:-)
Yes. This is worthy of slashdot.
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I am seeing a number of posts by people wondering if this kind of thing is worthy of Slashdot. I say it is, and here's why:
Stain resistance and water resistance will be required of any fabric used in the construction of "smart clothing". If you are going to embed a computer/telecomunications device in a jacket/shirt/whatever, you will need to use a material that will repel any elements that might be harmful to the circuitry.
Sometimes we have to remember that things that appear "low tech" on the surface can often be catalysts to future advancements.
It would be nice to see Slashdot adopt some new form of moderation... one that actually makes sense.
How many Slashdot readers have been moderated down with a (-1 Off Topic) because the moderator failed to read the (on topic) thread that they had been replying to. This can be real humourous when the original comment in the thread was moderated up.
Or my favorite: A comment gets scored as a (5 Interesting) and yet NOBODY replies to the thread that the (5 Interesting) comment begins. If it were really interesting, don't you think that it would generate SOME sort of response?
The moderation system on Slashdot is simply no longer viable for a community of this size.
You should not force a teacher to teach something that he or she fundamentally disagrees with. And you can't fire someone because of their religious beliefs.
The problems with propoganda and evolution is that both sides of the issue are so willing to use propoganda to make the other side look foolish.
Modern biology can easily be taught without the inclusion of evolution. And that is how it should be taught.
Evolution should be taught by individuals who do not have an agenda that would cause them to preach either against or for the Theory of Evolution. Finding that person who can walk that line will be very difficult.
Actually, if you will check out the appendices in the Jargon File (maintained by esr) it is stated that, among hacker-types, there is a disproportionate number of libertarians.
the incentive to profit is generally a discentive to social and civil responisbility
I have to disagree with you here. Government is the discentive to social and civil responsibility, not the free market.
We have a government that has usurped the private sector's responsibility to social and civic affairs. We now have failed government housing projects, failed welfare programs, and failed attempts to provide universal health care.
If you allow corporations to use public lands, they will rape those lands and leave them barren. If you sell those lands to the corporations, the will conserve those resources in order to insure that they continue to provide a source of income.
The free market works. Governments intervention into private affairs never does.
A few miles from where I live, two persons were convicted of trafficing in and creating kiddie porn on the Internet. They went as far as to rape an eight year old girl live via webcam, commiting acts that were suggested to them by their online viewership. They had at least 1,000 regular visitors to the site, and were not tracked down until authorities in France busted a child pornographer there and found the links on his computer.
I am very disturbed that you are trying to minimize the issue of Child Pornography on the internet. A few years ago, Phrack Magazine carried an article by a hacker going under the psuedonym of "Se7en". He too believed that the Issue of online child pornography was not as pervasive as the media and the "right wing" have made it to be. So, he went out to look for the stuff. And he was shocked at the volume of Child Pornography available and just how easy it was to find.
If you don't think it's out there, go look for it. You will find it. And when you do, please report the offending servers/individuals to www.condemned.org
I forget the name of the Jihad, but if I recall, human beings had created a technological society where all of their needs were met through artificial intellegences and robots.
The evil was not the technology itself, but rather mankinds willingness to be "dumbed down" to a level of reliance.
I think that Caleb Carr's call for government regulation of technology would be more likely to bring about this type of subjugation then would freedom of the internet and freedom of technological innovation.
Window Manager? What Windows Manager? I'm using bash.
If there was ever a reason to abolish the first amendment, it's the kiddie porn issue. However, Liberty is worth the price of security, so we will have to fight the kiddie porn issue server-by-server and offender-by-offender, not by hijacking the internet.
I agree. Good point, this one should be moderated to at least 1 point above his +1 bonus (but probably won't be because most moderators only look for nice long arguments and not at content alone.
Slashdot Mirror
Wow! I used to have wet dream about owning a sparc when I was younger...
...now, I just don't care.
Ahem.
My point is NOT that the public library has any more or less information then what is available on the internet.
My point is that the informatin in the public library is free.
One of the things that I learned while I was working as a journalist in the U.S. Navy was how to properly perform research in a library setting. There are vast amounts of information available through fiche, periodicals and books that are simply NOT available on the internet.
Yes, there is a great deal of information on the internet. No doubt about it. But I would NEVER use information garnished through the internet as a reliable source. Information on the internet is only a STARTING place for real research. Facts found on the internet should ALWAYS be confirmed through some other means.
But none of that is the point. If you start making me pay for internet content, then I will find other forms of retrieving content that doesn't cost me. Why? Because in addition to being a great information database, the internet is also one of the biggest purveyors of mis-information. And you want me to pay for that?
I ain't paying.
I access content on the internet because it is free and readily available. Start charging for that content and it will be back to the old public library for me.
NASA is run by the US government. Of course they are going to have troubles
Actually, just because one group is having problems doesn't mean that another group will not be able to approach the problems from a fresh perspective.
I don't see anything scary here.
It makes complete sense that a telco would not allow their bandwidth to be used for someone to protest their company. Would you expect McDonalds to be okay with letting PETA protesters carry their signs behind the cashier counter? Of course not.
If someone wants to run a sight protesting the telco, for whatever reason, they should run it on a server that is not connected with the telco.
Duh.
We had this happen at a company I worked for a few years back.
We had pressured the company into paying for our MCSE certifications (classes and testing), after about a year of pressure, they finally agreed.
Initially, the company sent 3 persons to the classes. These folks signed the typical waver that would require them to repay the costs if they left after one year.
After the first group went to the classes, the company started to get afraid that they were just training us to be more attractive to the job market at that time, so they upped the requirement to two years instead of one for the next group that they sent to training.
One of the individuals balked at the offer and refused to sign the two-year agreement.
The company was very understanding, and simply gave his slot to someone else.
The company was right though, the individuals who signed the original one-year agreement left after the time was up.
eat my karma
The scary thing is... in 50 years you will be able to pass that story off as being true and not just from a movie...
Wow.
What I would really like is something like this on the nosecone of an ultralite. And instead of shooting down missiles, it would need to shoot down cars on the ground.
Okay. Maybe I'm a little tired of morning commutes...
So. Use Karma as a sort of currency?
I think that I have found a kindred spirit, someone who truly understands Slashdot's moderation / Karma system.
:-)
1. Here is how you get around the Karma max at 50: create a new account! Hell, I have got three! From experience, it took me a year to get my first account maxed out at 50, and then 3 months to max out the second.
2. Other ways to rack-up Karma: Write something (anything) humourous about Microsoft (carefull, sometimes you get marked down for being a troll). And finding misc. links to similar information is always a good way to get a few points, but it can be time consuming. Here is a great way to get a few extra Karma: Write something that is particularly scathing of Slashdot itself, as long as it is on topic
I am seeing a number of posts by people wondering if this kind of thing is worthy of Slashdot. I say it is, and here's why:
Stain resistance and water resistance will be required of any fabric used in the construction of "smart clothing". If you are going to embed a computer/telecomunications device in a jacket/shirt/whatever, you will need to use a material that will repel any elements that might be harmful to the circuitry.
Sometimes we have to remember that things that appear "low tech" on the surface can often be catalysts to future advancements.
It would be nice to see Slashdot adopt some new form of moderation... one that actually makes sense.
How many Slashdot readers have been moderated down with a (-1 Off Topic) because the moderator failed to read the (on topic) thread that they had been replying to. This can be real humourous when the original comment in the thread was moderated up.
Or my favorite: A comment gets scored as a (5 Interesting) and yet NOBODY replies to the thread that the (5 Interesting) comment begins. If it were really interesting, don't you think that it would generate SOME sort of response?
The moderation system on Slashdot is simply no longer viable for a community of this size.
Wow. Your argument here just blows me away. Whatever.
You should not force a teacher to teach something that he or she fundamentally disagrees with. And you can't fire someone because of their religious beliefs.
The problems with propoganda and evolution is that both sides of the issue are so willing to use propoganda to make the other side look foolish.
Modern biology can easily be taught without the inclusion of evolution. And that is how it should be taught.
Evolution should be taught by individuals who do not have an agenda that would cause them to preach either against or for the Theory of Evolution. Finding that person who can walk that line will be very difficult.
Actually, if you will check out the appendices in the Jargon File (maintained by esr) it is stated that, among hacker-types, there is a disproportionate number of libertarians.
the incentive to profit is generally a discentive to social and civil responisbility
I have to disagree with you here. Government is the discentive to social and civil responsibility, not the free market.
We have a government that has usurped the private sector's responsibility to social and civic affairs. We now have failed government housing projects, failed welfare programs, and failed attempts to provide universal health care.
If you allow corporations to use public lands, they will rape those lands and leave them barren. If you sell those lands to the corporations, the will conserve those resources in order to insure that they continue to provide a source of income.
The free market works. Governments intervention into private affairs never does.
A few miles from where I live, two persons were convicted of trafficing in and creating kiddie porn on the Internet. They went as far as to rape an eight year old girl live via webcam, commiting acts that were suggested to them by their online viewership. They had at least 1,000 regular visitors to the site, and were not tracked down until authorities in France busted a child pornographer there and found the links on his computer.
I am very disturbed that you are trying to minimize the issue of Child Pornography on the internet. A few years ago, Phrack Magazine carried an article by a hacker going under the psuedonym of "Se7en". He too believed that the Issue of online child pornography was not as pervasive as the media and the "right wing" have made it to be. So, he went out to look for the stuff. And he was shocked at the volume of Child Pornography available and just how easy it was to find.
If you don't think it's out there, go look for it. You will find it. And when you do, please report the offending servers/individuals to www.condemned.org
Thanks. It's been about 10 years since I read Dune.
I forget the name of the Jihad, but if I recall, human beings had created a technological society where all of their needs were met through artificial intellegences and robots.
The evil was not the technology itself, but rather mankinds willingness to be "dumbed down" to a level of reliance.
I think that Caleb Carr's call for government regulation of technology would be more likely to bring about this type of subjugation then would freedom of the internet and freedom of technological innovation.
Window Manager? What Windows Manager? I'm using bash.
If we regulate stupidity, then what we will have is stupid citizens. I agree.
If there was ever a reason to abolish the first amendment, it's the kiddie porn issue. However, Liberty is worth the price of security, so we will have to fight the kiddie porn issue server-by-server and offender-by-offender, not by hijacking the internet.
Bad Advice.
To read ANYTHING without the benefit of our previous experiences in life (preconceived ideas) is to read without thought.
We must filter what we read based on what we already know or we will not be able to come to a reasoned opinion about what we are reading.
"Here, drink this hemlock tea without any preconceived notions..."
I agree. Good point, this one should be moderated to at least 1 point above his +1 bonus (but probably won't be because most moderators only look for nice long arguments and not at content alone.
The beauty of running links or lynx as a web browser is that you never have to loose your lunch looking at goats.cx