"I manage twelve Win2K servers (both Server and Advanced Server) and have only had good exepriences with them. In fact, since their installation this past summer, I have only had to reboot one of them once due to a home-grown application error, not an OS error."
Applications are not supposed to affect the operating system at all. It sounds like Windows 2000 STILL doesn't have protected memory.
You're right, 2.4 isn't ready yet. However, its currently at 2.4-test10, which means it is in the final testing phases, at which time Linus will simply remove the -testXX part. 2.3.99-preXX hasn't been used for some time.
Check http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel and see for yourself.
The feedback we have gotten from the millions of people who say they are using LINUX has all been positive. Two surprising things are apparent, however, 1) Most of these "users" never bought LINUX (less than 10% of all PC owners have bought LINUX), and 2) The amount of royalties we have received from sales to hobbyists makes the time spent on LINUX worth less than $2 an hour.
Why is this? As the majority of linux users must be aware, most of you steal your software. Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share. Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?
Is this fair? One thing you don't do by stealing software is get back at Linus or Alan for some problem you may have had. RedHat doesn't make money selling software. The royalty paid to us, the manual, the tape and the overhead make it a break-even operation. One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby software. We have written Emacs, and are writing kernel 2.4, but there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists. Most directly, the thing you do is theft.
Yeah, look now. Microsoft has crammed Internet Explorer down everybody's throats because they use Windows, and they are in federal court because of it. It doesn't matter if you think IE is a better browser either, its the fact that they made your decision for you.
I recently did some contracted database work, and this lady asked me what Windows I used on my home computer: 98, ME, or 2000. I replied that I didn't use Windows at all, and no I didn't have a Mac. She was FLABBERGASTED. Computers ARE Windows!
This is what Microsoft has done and this is where we are now.
Internal microsoft memos that were leaked out into the public and later confirmed by MS pr to be authentic. They detail how they can "lock out" open source projects by obfuscating and de-commoditizing pretty much every standard protocol and interface. A Microsoft employee also submitted his experience with installing Linux and specifically, checking out the dhcp client as "I'm a poorly skilled UNIX programmer but it was immediately obvious to me how to incrementally extend the DHCP client code (the feeling was exhilarating and addictive)"
It's basically an internal memo on how MS plans to beat Unix (and Linux), followed by a detailed explanation in Microsoft jargon on just what Linux and Free Software is. There are a couple of humorous fictional "documents"
All in all, its a good read, read it here:
http://www.opensource.org/halloween/
Thats only true if you keep up with buying (or more commonly, warezing) the newest Direct3D games, which are the same games as they were in 1994, with more intensive graphics.
I still play Quake and some addons for Quake2. I bought Quake3 for cheap on boxing day but didn't really like it.
Why would I want a 128mb agp4x card that pushes 200fps on some new Direct3D game that I will never play?
Yes but it goes both ways. See, the whole SMB and Win32 API is so crufty and shitty that nobody at Microsoft (which has an employee turnover of about 98% every 6 months) really understands what is going on in the source. Hey look ! someone has reverse engineered it AND documented it AND commented the source!
Now Microsoft can use the documentation to understand what is going on in thier own shitty crufty code, thus saving themselves alot of time and money, all by violating the free software licences (GPL for Samba, X11-style for WINE).
They can also audit the WINE and Samba code to find areas where they can break Windows -> (Wine,Samba) compatibility while maintaining Windows -> Windows compatibility, causing the free software projects to waste more effort in reverse engineering the changes.
Even though the Halloween documents went public, Microsoft is doing EXACTLY what they set out to do.
Two things are going to happen soon that could change all this browser crap.
1) AOL's IE contract will expire
2) AOL will use Mozilla
You figure out what the impact will be when millions of users are using a fully standards compliant browser that uses less memory than IE and renders pages faster than IE.
The bugs and quirks in Microsoft software and API's has never been so well documented as in Samba and WINE, not even at Microsoft themselves.
No doubt there is alot of code and know-how stolen from open source software in Microsoft software. Too bad they will never get sued for license violation since the source code was obtained by illegal means.
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everyone knows that the blueberry ones are fastest.
"I manage twelve Win2K servers (both Server and Advanced Server) and have only had good exepriences with them. In fact, since their installation this past summer, I have only had to reboot one of them once due to a home-grown application error, not an OS error."
Applications are not supposed to affect the operating system at all. It sounds like Windows 2000 STILL doesn't have protected memory.
You're right, 2.4 isn't ready yet. However, its currently at 2.4-test10, which means it is in the final testing phases, at which time Linus will simply remove the -testXX part. 2.3.99-preXX hasn't been used for some time.
Check http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel and see for yourself.
Could you provide a link to your project? It sounds really exciting, I would be willing to test and submit bug reports on your project to replace X11.
Hope to hear back from you!
OK I just switched from BeOS to OpenBSD, can I use IE now?
where can I download IE for XFree86 ?
Didn't they just announce that they will phase out provincial income tax in Alberta?
How about those health care premiums, and that energy rebate.
Methinks I'll flee BC and head to Alberta.
From Bill Gates' letter:
The feedback we have gotten from the millions of people who say they are using LINUX has all been positive. Two surprising things are apparent, however, 1) Most of these "users" never bought LINUX (less than 10% of all PC owners have bought LINUX), and 2) The amount of royalties we have received from sales to hobbyists makes the time spent on LINUX worth less than $2 an hour.
Why is this? As the majority of linux users must be aware, most of you steal your software. Hardware must be paid for, but software is something to share. Who cares if the people who worked on it get paid?
Is this fair? One thing you don't do by stealing software is get back at Linus or Alan for some problem you may have had. RedHat doesn't make money selling software. The royalty paid to us, the manual, the tape and the overhead make it a break-even operation. One thing you do do is prevent good software from being written. Who can afford to do professional work for nothing? What hobbyist can put 3-man years into programming, finding all bugs, documenting his product and distribute for free? The fact is, no one besides us has invested a lot of money in hobby software. We have written Emacs, and are writing kernel 2.4, but there is very little incentive to make this software available to hobbyists. Most directly, the thing you do is theft.
Yeah, look now. Microsoft has crammed Internet Explorer down everybody's throats because they use Windows, and they are in federal court because of it. It doesn't matter if you think IE is a better browser either, its the fact that they made your decision for you.
I recently did some contracted database work, and this lady asked me what Windows I used on my home computer: 98, ME, or 2000. I replied that I didn't use Windows at all, and no I didn't have a Mac. She was FLABBERGASTED. Computers ARE Windows!
This is what Microsoft has done and this is where we are now.
Internal microsoft memos that were leaked out into the public and later confirmed by MS pr to be authentic. They detail how they can "lock out" open source projects by obfuscating and de-commoditizing pretty much every standard protocol and interface. A Microsoft employee also submitted his experience with installing Linux and specifically, checking out the dhcp client as "I'm a poorly skilled UNIX programmer but it was immediately obvious to me how to incrementally extend the DHCP client code (the feeling was exhilarating and addictive)"
It's basically an internal memo on how MS plans to beat Unix (and Linux), followed by a detailed explanation in Microsoft jargon on just what Linux and Free Software is. There are a couple of humorous fictional "documents"
All in all, its a good read, read it here:
http://www.opensource.org/halloween/
Why would you want to debunk something, what does that mean anyway? Wouldn't it become bunk then, and isn't something that is bunk, not good?
Thats only true if you keep up with buying (or more commonly, warezing) the newest Direct3D games, which are the same games as they were in 1994, with more intensive graphics.
I still play Quake and some addons for Quake2. I bought Quake3 for cheap on boxing day but didn't really like it.
Why would I want a 128mb agp4x card that pushes 200fps on some new Direct3D game that I will never play?
To get around your America Nazi-era laws, just host the shit in a different country that has more freedom, like China or Cuba.
Yes but it goes both ways. See, the whole SMB and Win32 API is so crufty and shitty that nobody at Microsoft (which has an employee turnover of about 98% every 6 months) really understands what is going on in the source. Hey look ! someone has reverse engineered it AND documented it AND commented the source!
Now Microsoft can use the documentation to understand what is going on in thier own shitty crufty code, thus saving themselves alot of time and money, all by violating the free software licences (GPL for Samba, X11-style for WINE).
They can also audit the WINE and Samba code to find areas where they can break Windows -> (Wine,Samba) compatibility while maintaining Windows -> Windows compatibility, causing the free software projects to waste more effort in reverse engineering the changes.
Even though the Halloween documents went public, Microsoft is doing EXACTLY what they set out to do.
Two things are going to happen soon that could change all this browser crap.
1) AOL's IE contract will expire
2) AOL will use Mozilla
You figure out what the impact will be when millions of users are using a fully standards compliant browser that uses less memory than IE and renders pages faster than IE.
The bugs and quirks in Microsoft software and API's has never been so well documented as in Samba and WINE, not even at Microsoft themselves.
No doubt there is alot of code and know-how stolen from open source software in Microsoft software. Too bad they will never get sued for license violation since the source code was obtained by illegal means.