I'll keep this up 'till I'm modded down or black-holed for redundancy:
*You* create/.
The readers/posters create/.
Without the readers/posters, there is no f*cking/.
What are they going to use for content, the poorly-formed, grammatically challenged (and that's being charitable..) snippets that Taco writes?
Any you want to *pay* for creating the content that makes this place what it is?
Ya gotta hand it to Taco and the guys, they came up with a hell of a business model: get your workers to pay for the privilege of creating your product!
...the more I read the posts here, and the more I put up posts of my own, the more I realize the outrageous nature of just what the hell's going on here.
Here's why:
/. is *not* -- I repeat *not* -- the goddam cheesy little snippets that Taco and Hemos and the other people put up to lure us into posting comments.
/. is, and has always been, posts.
Our posts!
We, the readers, are what has made/. into what it is.
We should be charging *them* for our contributions.
"..And even RMS would say that Freedom *does not* mean being able to read this without seeing ads or something. The FSF makes a lot of money selling their GNU manuals. Advertising is the same thing for us..."
Excuse me.
Two points.
Think about them.
1) Don't even attempt, for one second, to put yourself in the same league as the Free Software Foundation.
2) Your readers (the people who you *depend* on for *everything* that is/. ) are giving you all a pretty clear message.
There are some people who *do* try to continue to conduct themselves through life with a continuity of the principles they have [pretended] to espouse...
That's the point.
It's a matter of principle, for those few who still have any.
Took me about 5 minutes to download it and put it on, including editing a batch file (Wow! does that bring back the memories!!) and setting up a shortcut and switching to a custom Lynx icon for the shortcut...
Ya'll ought to try it: it may be the first experience some of you get with the way the Web used to be, a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...
"..There is such a thing as advertising that readers want to see..."
Christ!
Speak for yourself!
What we're gonna get here are those same enormous f*cking Oracle "Unbreakable" ads that are all over the place right now, plus whatever other stupid crap the advertising "industry" wants to dream up.
Who the fsck wants to look at that crap even once, let alone over and over and over and over and...
As someone already said, Lynx is gonna be the *only* way to go -- until Taco decides to block Lynx by forbiding that user agent string...
And when that happens, it's goodby for good.
t_t_b
ps: wonder what I can get for a 4-digit user ID on EBay these days?
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Who cares?
Anybody with half a brain already knows all they need to about Scientology...
"..The first is the Republican belief in market forces..."
What f*cking "market forces"?
Micro$oft is a monopoly.
There is no market at work in computer operating systems, nor in any major application category.
"...Since then, the Internet bubble has burst..."
The "Internet bubble" was an economic house of cards, built by yuppie VC's and gullible "investors" in search of a quick buck.
The real Internet has nothing to do with that bubble, but understandably, neither you, nor the Republicans get that. After all, the business of America *is* business.
"...The Justice Dept. has to be seen to make steady progress at making people safe..."
Oh, right, the Justice department is doing a lot of *that* these days, along with destroying civil liberties and personal rights to privacy.
But *that* doesn't concern the Republicans: "If you're not guilty, you've got nothing to hide."
"...A department with limited resources and answering to elected politicians will tend to focus on political hot topics..."
Yup. Justice answers to Gee Dub Ya, and Gee Dub Ya and the Republicans are in bed with Micro$oft, so whatever Micro$oft wants, Micro$ost gets...
t_t_b
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...that someone needs to take all the lawyers out and shoot^H^H^H^H^H rehabilitate them.
It's the same general deal you get anywhere these days:
We're not responsible for nuttin..
You can't get us for nuttin..
We don't know nuttin, and if we did, we wouldn't admit it anyway..
If you got it, it's ours, an' we're gonna take it no matter what you do..
Here's a real punchline from the Privacy Statement:
"While this Privacy Statement expresses SourceForge.net's standards for maintenance of private data, Sourceforge.net is not in a position to guarantee that the standards will always be met..."
uh.. then who is in a position to guarantee what Sourceforge itself has just attested to?
"Newsweek has an excellent article on why personal video recorders like TiVo and ReplayTV, which have been embraced by tech-heads, are being ignored by almost everyone else."
And of course, Newsweek wouldn't happen to be a mainstream, massmarket, consumerist mouthpiece or anything, would it?
No...
...not Newsweek.
We could certainly expect **objective** journalism from Newsweek.
Slashdot Mirror
"News for nerds..."
Check the byline on the article at the Reg®:
Woz blesses Captain Crunch's new box
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 27/02/2002 at 21:31 GMT
This f*cking article was up on the Reg® on the f*cking 27th of February!
In the world *I* live in, that was last Wedesday!
How the f*ck does this qualify as "news"?
Answer: it doesn't!
And this is the level of quality that we are now being asked to pay for!
Forget it!
This topic is *olds* -- and it's *real* typical of what passes for *news* here at /.
t_t_b
Why are you willing to *pay* to produce a product that *others* are selling to the advertisers?
Taco and Hemos don't *make* this place happen, you do, as do all posters.
Without us, they're nothing.
Other sites create their content; here, the content is created by the very people who are now going to be charged for the privilege of doing so..
t_t_b
"...DOESN'T GENERATE REVENUE..."
Nope.
It doesn't generate *enough* revenue. The owners think they have a cash cow, here, and they want more.
"...With as many hits as they get, they need good servers and that costs money. If you can't see that, you're a fool..."
heh..
Hardly.
Think about it:
The readers/posters of /. create it, not Taco and Hemos -- all Taco does is write poorly-crafted little snippets that headline each article.
You're being asked to *pay* for the privilege of creating the product that Taco and Hemos are selling to the advertisers.
You, sir, are the fool.
t_t_b
The big question is, is anyone listening?
t_t_b
by Anonymous Coward on 16:04 Friday 01 March 2002 (Score:1) (#3094890)
being extorted by corporate theives, be it for $5 or $5000 is still giving in to their threats.
"Pay us $5 every month or two or we're gonna put big nasty ads everywhere! now pay up bitch!"
Nah, how 'bout this, i block you fucking ads and keep my $5.
When the school bully tried to take my lunch money in exchange for not getting beat up i took a big stick and broke it over his head.
I'm not gonna start giving in to extortionists now."
Let's have everyone hear from all sides... ;-)
t_t_b
It's the money...
"Slashdot requires you to wait 2 minutes between each successful posting of a comment to allow everyone a fair chance at posting a comment..."
Ouch..
It hurts to care so much...)
t_t_b
*You* create /.
The readers/posters create /.
Without the readers/posters, there is no f*cking /.
What are they going to use for content, the poorly-formed, grammatically challenged (and that's being charitable..) snippets that Taco writes?
Any you want to *pay* for creating the content that makes this place what it is?
Ya gotta hand it to Taco and the guys, they came up with a hell of a business model: get your workers to pay for the privilege of creating your product!
Even Micro$oft hasn't figured that one out...
t_t_b
t_t_b
We the readers/posters are what has created /. -- not Taco and Hemos and the rest.
99.99% of the content of /. is what's posted by the readers.
The little that Taco and Hemos do is to write poorly-formed snippets that headline each article.
The entire substance of /. is written entirely by us, its readers.
And now we get to pay for the privilege of continuing to provide /. with its lifeblood?
I think not.
t_t_b
Here's why:
Our posts!
We, the readers, are what has made /. into what it is.
We should be charging *them* for our contributions.
Without us, the readers, /. is nothing.
Got it, guys?
Nothing.
Zero, zip, nada, zilch...
Without us, there is no /.
Pay for a subscription to what *we* are creating?
Hell no!
t_t_b
"..I just see it as another option that people can use.."
Micro$oft:
"..It's another feature our customers have requested.."
Why do both of these phrases leave me feeling uncomfortable?
t_t_b
Excuse me.
Two points.
Think about them.
1) Don't even attempt, for one second, to put yourself in the same league as the Free Software Foundation.
2) Your readers (the people who you *depend* on for *everything* that is /. ) are giving you all a pretty clear message.
You would do well to heed that message.
t_t_b
There are some people who *do* try to continue to conduct themselves through life with a continuity of the principles they have [pretended] to espouse...
That's the point.
It's a matter of principle, for those few who still have any.
t_t_b
t_t_b
They haven't cared for a long time.
The entire point of this place is just like any other whoring web site: generate click-through, get the eyeballs, count the page requests.
It's just that now the people running this place care so little that they're willing to take that last, final step, and come right out and say:
"Screw you. You're all just a commodity, and we're selling *all* of you to the highest bidder."
t_t_b
Of course, at home I've got Linux running on everything, so Lynx is a viable option for viewing the **new** advertising-cluttered /..
But at work I've gotta use W1nbl0w$, and what to do, what to do about /. and ads and Lynx?
Well, here's what:
Go to http://jim.spath.com/lynx_win32/ and pick up Lynx for W32!
Took me about 5 minutes to download it and put it on, including editing a batch file (Wow! does that bring back the memories!!) and setting up a shortcut and switching to a custom Lynx icon for the shortcut...
Ya'll ought to try it: it may be the first experience some of you get with the way the Web used to be, a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...
t_t_b
Christ!
Speak for yourself!
What we're gonna get here are those same enormous f*cking Oracle "Unbreakable" ads that are all over the place right now, plus whatever other stupid crap the advertising "industry" wants to dream up.
Who the fsck wants to look at that crap even once, let alone over and over and over and over and...
As someone already said, Lynx is gonna be the *only* way to go -- until Taco decides to block Lynx by forbiding that user agent string...
And when that happens, it's goodby for good.
t_t_b
ps: wonder what I can get for a 4-digit user ID on EBay these days?
Anybody with half a brain already knows all they need to about Scientology...
t_t_b
"..The first is the Republican belief in market forces..."
What f*cking "market forces"?
Micro$oft is a monopoly.
There is no market at work in computer operating systems, nor in any major application category.
"...Since then, the Internet bubble has burst..."
The "Internet bubble" was an economic house of cards, built by yuppie VC's and gullible "investors" in search of a quick buck.
The real Internet has nothing to do with that bubble, but understandably, neither you, nor the Republicans get that. After all, the business of America *is* business.
"...The Justice Dept. has to be seen to make steady progress at making people safe..."
Oh, right, the Justice department is doing a lot of *that* these days, along with destroying civil liberties and personal rights to privacy.
But *that* doesn't concern the Republicans: "If you're not guilty, you've got nothing to hide."
"...A department with limited resources and answering to elected politicians will tend to focus on political hot topics..."
Yup. Justice answers to Gee Dub Ya, and Gee Dub Ya and the Republicans are in bed with Micro$oft, so whatever Micro$oft wants, Micro$ost gets...
t_t_b
t_t_b
It's the same general deal you get anywhere these days:
You can't get us for nuttin..
We don't know nuttin, and if we did, we wouldn't admit it anyway..
If you got it, it's ours, an' we're gonna take it no matter what you do..
Here's a real punchline from the Privacy Statement:
uh.. then who is in a position to guarantee what Sourceforge itself has just attested to?
No-body!
End of discussion!
And have a nice day!
t_t_b
"Its disk contains, in addition to Mary's own files, encrypted fragments of thousands of other files..."
Does she hold any legal liability for the assembled content those files represent?
No?
The k1dd13 pr0n lovers will like that, as well as the illegal MP3 (or what ever file format is in vogue..) collectors, not to mention the w4r3z dud3z.
And, as others have said, what do you do when little Mary buys a new box?
"...the pool is self-maintaining: when a computer breaks down, its owner eventually fixes or replaces it..."
Eventually? How long do I have to wait for "eventually"? Where's everybody's data in the meantime?
How fast will the "Worldwide OS" be able to pull off everyone's files when she types shutdown -h now or clicks Start/Shutdown/Shutdown now...
Or if there's nothing more uncommon than a power outage, of, say, 12 hours, that hoses both her computer *and* the DSL connection she's got?
Or...
Nuts..
These guys need to get out in the real world.
t_t_b
"This package contains the full measure advertised."
"It may appear to be less than full because the package contents are measured by weight, not by volume."
"Some settling of the contents is to be expected during handling."
Thank you.
t_t_b
And of course, Newsweek wouldn't happen to be a mainstream, massmarket, consumerist mouthpiece or anything, would it?
No...
We could certainly expect **objective** journalism from Newsweek.
heh..
Right..
t_t_b
Don't bother.
"..Microsoft Haters.."
Damn straight...
Shoo, M$FT troll...
t_t_b