Indeed, it's much tighter. You can't buy a commercially released Bluray disk that isn't DRM'ed up to the gills.
No matter if this is true or not, how is this the fault of the maker of the bluray player? Are you saying the bluray player won't play a non DRM'ed movie? Apple control both ends. They both sell devices and control which application can be installed on it. And applications that can be installed on it can't be of any use on any other device.
Going back to that venn diagram, I'd wager there's a total overlap between the people who complain about Apple's "walled garden", then sign out of Slashdot to pick up his Android phone (which he rooted to get around Google-supported carrier locks)
Carrier (or SIM) lock has nothing to do with rooting.
and call his buddies to come over and play some Grand Theft Auto on his Playstation 4.
While it is true that a gaming console is as locked down as an iPhone, an Android phone isn't.
and the best mitigation policy is to resign Boston, Florida and the Kiribati islands to the sea and just let people move to higher ground.
That's a plan however it may be cheaper to lower CO2 emissions instead. Many reports, such as the one by Citigroup recently, claims that it is the case.
But there is no consensus on what the level of warming will be
You are right on this. There is no consensus on whether it will be bad or very bad.
nor is there consensus on the idea that the changes are harmful/damaging to our interests
If by "our interests" you mean the human race as a world, then you are wrong. The changes are definitely damaging, as a whole, even tough some individuals will obviously benefit.
or the planet
On the contrary, there is a consensus that the planet will be just fine with or without global warming, and with or without humans or even life. But that was never the question.
or that an urgent mitigation based policy framework is needed
This part is no longer the scientific debate but the political one. Obviously, there is no scientific consensus on politics, and there will never be.
. There is an enormous amount of disagreement here, scientific disagreement, as there should be because honest truth is we do not know what impacts are likely to be
We don't know. We expect. With the current sate of science, we expect that the Earth will not explode tomorrow. Therefore it is rational to live as if the Earth won't explode. However, we also expect that the Earth will be warmer because of human activity. The rational way to live is not to do nothing until we precisely know if the Earth will warm by 1 or 3 or 5 degrees. It is to lower our emissions to avoid part of the warming. If in 5 or 10 years new scientific studies prove us wrong, then fine, we will just have to start polluting again.
Climate science discussion is so slippery, constantly confusing, conflating and switching in utterly different subjects of discussion. The most generous critique I can muster is that this is at very best, chronic intellectual sloppiness/laziness. And people wring their hands and lament on the lack of trust....
That sir, is the usual excuse for not doing anything. The debate is slippery, so let's not do anything. The debate is slippery mainly because there are still a lot of deniers, not because it isn't interesting.
You don't run apps on a blue-ray player. Well, I suppose some "smart" ones do. And I never said it wasn't a walled garden. But it's nowhere near Apple-level of vendor lock-in without the possibility of paying for software/media that can only be used on their hardware.
Also, you need to compare to the competition in the market. Apple's competition in the smartphone market is much more open. All blue-ray players are closed (although they all play blu-rays from every company just fine and no Samsung or LG-specific movie exists). And finally, switching to another brand of blu-ray player is much easier than switching out of Apple's ecosystem.
These are most probably outdated. I've had several phones from Bell. They often have different settings. In the end, they all work the same. As I tell you, my internet is working just fine without a proxy in my APN settings. I didn't edit them, it's the default.
It remains to be proven that there is added security by having a second APN for MMS. Are you saying that Bell is less secure than T-Mobile for providing me with only one APN one my phone?
I wasn't talking about supporting multiple APN specifically. APN may exist for legacy protocols such as MMS. I was talking about the support for phone-level data segregation based on device source. There is no need for it. Users never asked for this "functionality". The only reason it exists is because they pander to the carriers who don't care about net neutrality. The phone would work just fine by sending both phone and tethering data through the same pipe, as it's being done on Bell and I am sure many other carriers.
Funny since my carrier is doing just fine with a single APN configured on my phone. And no, your explanation is not good enough. Not even close. Even if T-Mobile supports 3 or even hundreds of differents APN, there is no technical reason for them to force its users to use different APN for phone and tethering data. Or at least, if there is one, you didn't present it in this thread.
They don't have to manage anything on their side if my phone does NAT and the carrier isn't aware whether the packets are coming from the phone or my PC.
I've given accurate information and done my best to correct your inaccuracies; not for your benefit, but for the benefit of anyone else who may read your incorrect statements.
Your infinite wisdom aside, why would anyone trust your "accurate" information when you still fails to explain any valid technical reason for segregating traffic on today's smartphones? Instead you repeated 5 times the same non-argument.
How do I know who you spoke to? I should be trusting a random dude on slashdot because he claims he spoke to a T-Mobile technician? Sorry, not going to happen.
A game console is similar, however a car or media player is not something that you buy, and then if you buy software it will only run on that car/media player.
Slashdot Mirror
You could have used anything else instead. Why a proprietary, non-standard solution?
of course XMPP isn't. WhatsApp is.
You should care because, you know, a proprietary, non-standard way of sending messages to friends was really something we missed.
Ever thought about sending your file by email? Why would we need a proprietary, non-standard communication protocol?
Indeed, it's much tighter. You can't buy a commercially released Bluray disk that isn't DRM'ed up to the gills.
No matter if this is true or not, how is this the fault of the maker of the bluray player? Are you saying the bluray player won't play a non DRM'ed movie?
Apple control both ends. They both sell devices and control which application can be installed on it. And applications that can be installed on it can't be of any use on any other device.
Going back to that venn diagram, I'd wager there's a total overlap between the people who complain about Apple's "walled garden", then sign out of Slashdot to pick up his Android phone (which he rooted to get around Google-supported carrier locks)
Carrier (or SIM) lock has nothing to do with rooting.
and call his buddies to come over and play some Grand Theft Auto on his Playstation 4.
While it is true that a gaming console is as locked down as an iPhone, an Android phone isn't.
and the best mitigation policy is to resign Boston, Florida and the Kiribati islands to the sea and just let people move to higher ground.
That's a plan however it may be cheaper to lower CO2 emissions instead. Many reports, such as the one by Citigroup recently, claims that it is the case.
But there is no consensus on what the level of warming will be
You are right on this. There is no consensus on whether it will be bad or very bad.
nor is there consensus on the idea that the changes are harmful/damaging to our interests
If by "our interests" you mean the human race as a world, then you are wrong. The changes are definitely damaging, as a whole, even tough some individuals will obviously benefit.
or the planet
On the contrary, there is a consensus that the planet will be just fine with or without global warming, and with or without humans or even life. But that was never the question.
or that an urgent mitigation based policy framework is needed
This part is no longer the scientific debate but the political one. Obviously, there is no scientific consensus on politics, and there will never be.
. There is an enormous amount of disagreement here, scientific disagreement, as there should be because honest truth is we do not know what impacts are likely to be
We don't know. We expect. With the current sate of science, we expect that the Earth will not explode tomorrow. Therefore it is rational to live as if the Earth won't explode. However, we also expect that the Earth will be warmer because of human activity. The rational way to live is not to do nothing until we precisely know if the Earth will warm by 1 or 3 or 5 degrees. It is to lower our emissions to avoid part of the warming. If in 5 or 10 years new scientific studies prove us wrong, then fine, we will just have to start polluting again.
Climate science discussion is so slippery, constantly confusing, conflating and switching in utterly different subjects of discussion. The most generous critique I can muster is that this is at very best, chronic intellectual sloppiness/laziness. And people wring their hands and lament on the lack of trust....
That sir, is the usual excuse for not doing anything. The debate is slippery, so let's not do anything. The debate is slippery mainly because there are still a lot of deniers, not because it isn't interesting.
Take a look at settings for Windows Phone 7/8, a page which must have been updated more recently:
http://support.bell.ca/Mobilit...
A single setting, the APN pda.bell.ca. Nothing else.
You don't run apps on a blue-ray player. Well, I suppose some "smart" ones do. And I never said it wasn't a walled garden. But it's nowhere near Apple-level of vendor lock-in without the possibility of paying for software/media that can only be used on their hardware.
Also, you need to compare to the competition in the market. Apple's competition in the smartphone market is much more open. All blue-ray players are closed (although they all play blu-rays from every company just fine and no Samsung or LG-specific movie exists). And finally, switching to another brand of blu-ray player is much easier than switching out of Apple's ecosystem.
These are most probably outdated. I've had several phones from Bell. They often have different settings. In the end, they all work the same. As I tell you, my internet is working just fine without a proxy in my APN settings. I didn't edit them, it's the default.
The carrier can always capture all your traffic, proxy or not.
There is no proxy server configured in my phone's APN. Also I never used MMS and do not see the point.
It remains to be proven that there is added security by having a second APN for MMS.
Are you saying that Bell is less secure than T-Mobile for providing me with only one APN one my phone?
I wasn't talking about supporting multiple APN specifically. APN may exist for legacy protocols such as MMS.
I was talking about the support for phone-level data segregation based on device source. There is no need for it. Users never asked for this "functionality". The only reason it exists is because they pander to the carriers who don't care about net neutrality. The phone would work just fine by sending both phone and tethering data through the same pipe, as it's being done on Bell and I am sure many other carriers.
Funny since my carrier is doing just fine with a single APN configured on my phone.
And no, your explanation is not good enough. Not even close.
Even if T-Mobile supports 3 or even hundreds of differents APN, there is no technical reason for them to force its users to use different APN for phone and tethering data. Or at least, if there is one, you didn't present it in this thread.
They don't have to manage anything on their side if my phone does NAT and the carrier isn't aware whether the packets are coming from the phone or my PC.
I've given accurate information and done my best to correct your inaccuracies; not for your benefit, but for the benefit of anyone else who may read your incorrect statements.
Your infinite wisdom aside, why would anyone trust your "accurate" information when you still fails to explain any valid technical reason for segregating traffic on today's smartphones? Instead you repeated 5 times the same non-argument.
It's not because it varies that it is not important.
A 100x720p movie would suck a lot more than a 1280x720i movie
If your blue-ray player only played discs from a single vendor, it would be vendor locking-in to.
How do I know who you spoke to? I should be trusting a random dude on slashdot because he claims he spoke to a T-Mobile technician? Sorry, not going to happen.
yeah, but the horizontal resolution is also a big deal and they forgot that information.
720x480 is 480p, not 720p. I don't know who invented the "p" denomination, but it was a stupid idea.
There is likewise much that I do not know, which I would need in order to properly explain the technical reasons for it in a way you might understand.
Yeah well until then, the rational thing to do is to consider that you are full of BS. Sorry.
I agree that upscaling is BS. Upscaling is also what a computer's LCD does when watching a 720x480 YouTube vido full screen. It still looks like crap.
A game console is similar, however a car or media player is not something that you buy, and then if you buy software it will only run on that car/media player.