Wrong the Act of Union was 1707 which brought the united kingdom of Great Britain into being which is long after the Star Chamber was abolished (1641), just saying like!
Just because someone has done something before doesn't mean they are some constant boogeyman in the background. Again, everything is not Microsoft conspiracy. Just like Islamic terrorists are not behind every corner trying to blow you up.
Would you trust a recidivist drunk driver with the keys to your liquor cabinet and your Porsche?
So it had to survive a catastrophic event that threw it on a piece of rock out of the atmosphere of Mars into an orbit that brought it to Earth within the allotted number of days for it to survive and then survive entry into the Earth's atmosphere, which no matter how you spin it would involve the subject going from very,very cold to very, very hot, very, very quickly. To survive all that and land some place where there is food and beside a mate.
I really think it would need an infinite improbability drive to do all that.
Roughly only 30% of the population seems susceptible to placebo effects, and it is not possible to determine ahead of time whether a placebo will work or not. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo)
So if you want drugs that work only 30% of the time then go buy some herbal water, if you want something that works more often then go to the pharmacist and buy something that has passed a double blind test, which should work with considerably more reliability than 30%.
FYI I really do not think that the placebo effect is not real, I don't have an explanation for it but it is definitely real.
The problem with the pill that causes a direct chemical action is that the body tends to detect this sort of manipulation and develops tolerance to it.
That seems like broad brush, non-verifiable claptrap that one gets from Naturopathy
And your suggestion for a replacement is what?
Seriously, how are you going to judge the effectiveness of a drug, if you don't test it in humans and how are you going to discriminate the placebo effect from the real effect?
At present we cannot totally rely on animal testing or computer models, so just what do you want to use?
If we didn't use humans in testing in a double blind test then we couldn't say for sure that the drugs are effective and then we would be open to the same empty promises and shenanigans of Homoeopathy.
It is truly unfortunate that this has to happen but until someone can come up with a reasonable working solution to the problem then the double blind is the best that we can do.
Yes, tax is an unfortunate reality of ownership of many things. One of the ways governments raise money is to tax the ownership of vehicles and property. If the government didn't tax those things then they would tax something else in stead, like petrol or bibles or babies or baby bibles. Governments do this ostensibly to pay for bombs, bomb delivery devices and uniformed marchers. If you want to have the benefit of being able to bomb who you want and have your marching people march in foreign places then you will probably need to have taxes, bombs don't build themselves you know! Uniformed marchers tend to make more uniformed marchers but they take a while to bake and some-one else has to make the uniform, usually some stinky felon who has be remanded in a lovely quiet private residence/workplace that has free food, bed and washing facilities.
Children, on the other hand, are registered so that Santa can keep track of them on his naughty/nice machine and the registry of marriages are an extension of Santa's policy of tracking children's parents to make sure they don't move to some sinful godless place like Canada, where the gays can get married, or someplace as awful as Europe, 'cause we all know its full of sinners there, Santa doesn't even stop in most of those countries.
I probably shouldn't do this but, what paranoid corner of the realm did you crawl out of?
Here are some of the benefits of all this control
Land is registered to stop it being stolen out from under you.
A car is registered so that police know who to call if you burnt body is pulled out of it.
A child is registered in order to make sure that you treat it properly, see that it gets taught to read and write real good and protect it from the possible harm of being brought up by a complete wing-nut.
You register you marriage so that you don't go and marry your sisters again and again so we can keep our gene-pool nice an healthy!
Now I like a good poke at "The Man" as much as the next left-wing freetard, but there are benefits to all the things you have ranted on about (it was a rant you can tell by the CAPS).
But in saying all that you DID reference to articles written by David Icke (AKA Jesus) who thinks that the world is run by reptiles that are six feet tall and disguise themselves as the UK Queen and you take him seriously?
To be concise, I don't feel that your lift goes all the way up!
It is probable they non of your FCF's have been persicuted quite as thoroughly as the Palestiniens and therefore may not be quite as desperate as the unfortunate people who blow themselves and their victims to oblivion.
Obvious disclaimer about never condone violence etc.
And if/when science comes up with the a workable theory on how the big bang occurred then I am pretty sure that there will be another reason not to give up your faith.
Since your god lies in the gaps of human understanding you will never know enough to let go of you superstition.
I think you are being more than a bit disingenuous, I think what the post is saying is that free trade without the level playing field of emission standardisation can only lead to corporations who are morally ambivalent to move to countries where one of the major attractions is to circumvent emissions policies in developed countries.
You are comparing Apples with Oranges.
Environmental legislation is generally in place because there have been issues in the past which have lead to new legislation to prevent accidents re-occurring, in a similar fashion to workplace safety laws.
When corporations side step these laws in order to make a buck then I think it is fair to say that Free Trade is directly endangering both the environment and peoples lives and quality of life.
Maybe Free Trade needs to reflect the imbalances in Environmental and Labor laws to protect the peoples of countries that do not value their citizens rights to freedom, fresh air and protection form morally bankrupt corporations.
During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.
Avoiding taxes is nothing new for General Electric. In 2008 its effective tax rate was 5.3%; in 2007 it was 15%. The marginal U.S. corporate rate is 35%.
And just what do you think the original article is about? is it payroll and local taxes or is it corporate taxes?
I think you will find it is a the latter and not the former.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_tax
I could be wrong but I believe that the US position on Corporation tax is that the tax is being applied for the privilege of operating a corporation and that it would be illegal to apply a tax on profits otherwise. (IANAL)
That said, even if you are correct and it is a basic right then surely with rights come responsibilities and one of the responsibilities of "doing" a business is to pay appropriate tax on any profits gained and to not evade taxation. The result of tax evasion is sometimes a fine and sometimes a custodial sentence, but I am pretty sure the Tax dude will have the power to stop a company from trading if it can be proved that the company evaded taxes.
How much in taxes did the Apple employees pay in Federal taxes?
In my country employee taxes mostly come out of the employees wages, the company only gathers sum and gives it to the government. So technically the employees pay that for the bit of their life that they will never get back.
How much in taxes did Apple share holders pay on dividens and capital gains on their stock.
Share holders are not the same as the company, it may be that the company will hold share of itself, but are you suggesting that tax paid an another entity be counted as tax paid by Apple? If you are, could you pay my taxes for me?
Also if Apple stock lost money would you propose that Apple inc. pay tax as the stock holders would have reduced their tax bill?
Also there have been no Apple dividends
So on top of that Apple is supposed to pay too? How does that even remotely make any sense?
Well as has been pointed out before in this thread Apple and other large corporates are channelling money though third party countries to reduce, or even remove the need to pay corporation tax. Corporation tax is the price for being an American corporation and for the privilege of doing business in the USA, I am under the impression that all countries have some sort of tax like this, it is just that Apple et al don't want to pay this price. Do you think that Apple etc. should be allowed to to operate in the USA without paying their dues?
The governement is supposed to get what 90% of everything we do? How is that "fair"
No, as pointed out earlier in other posts, corporation tax is 35%. Not 90%! I know you think that you are cumulatively adding up all the payments, but really you are getting confused with gross and net profits and what taxes apply to where or when.
Of that $34 Billion dollars they made how much is that tied up in the business itself? It's like having to pay taxes on your car, but the only way to pay it is you have to sell the car. Once the car is gone how are you going to get to work? It works the same way in the corporate world.
Apple tie this money up in the business by not spending it, they are sitting on $100 Billion in cash reserves. I am not suggesting that this is wrong, they are entitled to hold as much money as they want, but it is disingenuous for you to suggest that the $34 Billion is tied up in the business.
Here's what happens when you try to start imposing some sort of "You're an American Company; pay American taxes" argument: Apple re-incorporates off-shore; its US operations are shunted to a US subsidiary, who works under contract with the main off-shore company. In the end, it pays a lot less tax, but is now a Cayman Islands company.
The old "if we don't pay what we want we will leave" argument. If they are not prepared to pay the appropriate taxes for the privilege of doing business in your country then why let them? This goes for Micro$oft and General Electric too!
Large corporations employ less people than small businesses (a small business is less than 500 people) and yet it is small businesses that bear the brunt of taxation while large corporates get the tax breaks, the ear of the government and multi-million-dollar CEO's
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Wrong the Act of Union was 1707 which brought the united kingdom of Great Britain into being which is long after the Star Chamber was abolished (1641), just saying like!
Just because someone has done something before doesn't mean they are some constant boogeyman in the background. Again, everything is not Microsoft conspiracy. Just like Islamic terrorists are not behind every corner trying to blow you up.
Would you trust a recidivist drunk driver with the keys to your liquor cabinet and your Porsche?
I didn't realise I wasn't logged in, oops!
No points to mod this up, shame on me!
So it had to survive a catastrophic event that threw it on a piece of rock out of the atmosphere of Mars into an orbit that brought it to Earth within the allotted number of days for it to survive and then survive entry into the Earth's atmosphere, which no matter how you spin it would involve the subject going from very,very cold to very, very hot, very, very quickly. To survive all that and land some place where there is food and beside a mate.
I really think it would need an infinite improbability drive to do all that.
So if you want drugs that work only 30% of the time then go buy some herbal water, if you want something that works more often then go to the pharmacist and buy something that has passed a double blind test, which should work with considerably more reliability than 30%.
FYI I really do not think that the placebo effect is not real, I don't have an explanation for it but it is definitely real.
The problem with the pill that causes a direct chemical action is that the body tends to detect this sort of manipulation and develops tolerance to it.
That seems like broad brush, non-verifiable claptrap that one gets from Naturopathy
And your suggestion for a replacement is what?
Seriously, how are you going to judge the effectiveness of a drug, if you don't test it in humans and how are you going to discriminate the placebo effect from the real effect?
At present we cannot totally rely on animal testing or computer models, so just what do you want to use?
If we didn't use humans in testing in a double blind test then we couldn't say for sure that the drugs are effective and then we would be open to the same empty promises and shenanigans of Homoeopathy.
It is truly unfortunate that this has to happen but until someone can come up with a reasonable working solution to the problem then the double blind is the best that we can do.
I am full of irony, I am!
Yes, tax is an unfortunate reality of ownership of many things. One of the ways governments raise money is to tax the ownership of vehicles and property. If the government didn't tax those things then they would tax something else in stead, like petrol or bibles or babies or baby bibles. Governments do this ostensibly to pay for bombs, bomb delivery devices and uniformed marchers. If you want to have the benefit of being able to bomb who you want and have your marching people march in foreign places then you will probably need to have taxes, bombs don't build themselves you know! Uniformed marchers tend to make more uniformed marchers but they take a while to bake and some-one else has to make the uniform, usually some stinky felon who has be remanded in a lovely quiet private residence/workplace that has free food, bed and washing facilities.
Children, on the other hand, are registered so that Santa can keep track of them on his naughty/nice machine and the registry of marriages are an extension of Santa's policy of tracking children's parents to make sure they don't move to some sinful godless place like Canada, where the gays can get married, or someplace as awful as Europe, 'cause we all know its full of sinners there, Santa doesn't even stop in most of those countries.
I probably shouldn't do this but, what paranoid corner of the realm did you crawl out of?
Here are some of the benefits of all this control
Land is registered to stop it being stolen out from under you.
A car is registered so that police know who to call if you burnt body is pulled out of it.
A child is registered in order to make sure that you treat it properly, see that it gets taught to read and write real good and protect it from the possible harm of being brought up by a complete wing-nut.
You register you marriage so that you don't go and marry your sisters again and again so we can keep our gene-pool nice an healthy!
Now I like a good poke at "The Man" as much as the next left-wing freetard, but there are benefits to all the things you have ranted on about (it was a rant you can tell by the CAPS).
But in saying all that you DID reference to articles written by David Icke (AKA Jesus) who thinks that the world is run by reptiles that are six feet tall and disguise themselves as the UK Queen and you take him seriously?
To be concise, I don't feel that your lift goes all the way up!
Hell Pakistan is a hotbead of terrorism and what do you know, they are in bed with the US.
The government, yes, the people not so much!
It is probable they non of your FCF's have been persicuted quite as thoroughly as the Palestiniens and therefore may not be quite as desperate as the unfortunate people who blow themselves and their victims to oblivion.
Obvious disclaimer about never condone violence etc.
And if/when science comes up with the a workable theory on how the big bang occurred then I am pretty sure that there will be another reason not to give up your faith.
Since your god lies in the gaps of human understanding you will never know enough to let go of you superstition.
I think you are being more than a bit disingenuous, I think what the post is saying is that free trade without the level playing field of emission standardisation can only lead to corporations who are morally ambivalent to move to countries where one of the major attractions is to circumvent emissions policies in developed countries.
You are comparing Apples with Oranges.
Environmental legislation is generally in place because there have been issues in the past which have lead to new legislation to prevent accidents re-occurring, in a similar fashion to workplace safety laws.
When corporations side step these laws in order to make a buck then I think it is fair to say that Free Trade is directly endangering both the environment and peoples lives and quality of life.
Maybe Free Trade needs to reflect the imbalances in Environmental and Labor laws to protect the peoples of countries that do not value their citizens rights to freedom, fresh air and protection form morally bankrupt corporations.
specifically
During their appeal, FOX asserted that there are no written rules against distorting news in the media. They argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox attorneys did not dispute Akre’s claim that they pressured her to broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to do so.
(my emphasis) So really should you trust ANY news from this media empire?
other info on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wilson_(reporter)
Avoiding taxes is nothing new for General Electric. In 2008 its effective tax rate was 5.3%; in 2007 it was 15%. The marginal U.S. corporate rate is 35%.
http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/01/ge-exxon-walmart-business-washington-corporate-taxes.html
And just what do you think the original article is about? is it payroll and local taxes or is it corporate taxes?
I think you will find it is a the latter and not the former.
Tel that to Ireland. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8148882/US-firms-warn-Irish-over-tax-move.html
The flip side of this is that when Ireland was having to deal with some of the worst issues of their recession, they were unable to leverage the corporation tax to increase revenues as a group of American Corps informed them that they would leave if there was any change in threshold. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8148882/US-firms-warn-Irish-over-tax-move.html
They also have a history of not paying tax and in getting large tax deductions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE#Recent_controversies
It is not just since the recession that they have been behaving like this.
Is that one of the reasons for Beatification?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privilege_tax
I could be wrong but I believe that the US position on Corporation tax is that the tax is being applied for the privilege of operating a corporation and that it would be illegal to apply a tax on profits otherwise. (IANAL)
That said, even if you are correct and it is a basic right then surely with rights come responsibilities and one of the responsibilities of "doing" a business is to pay appropriate tax on any profits gained and to not evade taxation. The result of tax evasion is sometimes a fine and sometimes a custodial sentence, but I am pretty sure the Tax dude will have the power to stop a company from trading if it can be proved that the company evaded taxes.
How much in taxes did the Apple employees pay in Federal taxes?
In my country employee taxes mostly come out of the employees wages, the company only gathers sum and gives it to the government. So technically the employees pay that for the bit of their life that they will never get back.
How much in taxes did Apple share holders pay on dividens and capital gains on their stock.
Share holders are not the same as the company, it may be that the company will hold share of itself, but are you suggesting that tax paid an another entity be counted as tax paid by Apple? If you are, could you pay my taxes for me?
Also if Apple stock lost money would you propose that Apple inc. pay tax as the stock holders would have reduced their tax bill?
Also there have been no Apple dividends
So on top of that Apple is supposed to pay too? How does that even remotely make any sense?
Well as has been pointed out before in this thread Apple and other large corporates are channelling money though third party countries to reduce, or even remove the need to pay corporation tax. Corporation tax is the price for being an American corporation and for the privilege of doing business in the USA, I am under the impression that all countries have some sort of tax like this, it is just that Apple et al don't want to pay this price. Do you think that Apple etc. should be allowed to to operate in the USA without paying their dues?
The governement is supposed to get what 90% of everything we do? How is that "fair"
No, as pointed out earlier in other posts, corporation tax is 35%. Not 90%! I know you think that you are cumulatively adding up all the payments, but really you are getting confused with gross and net profits and what taxes apply to where or when.
Of that $34 Billion dollars they made how much is that tied up in the business itself? It's like having to pay taxes on your car, but the only way to pay it is you have to sell the car. Once the car is gone how are you going to get to work? It works the same way in the corporate world.
Apple tie this money up in the business by not spending it, they are sitting on $100 Billion in cash reserves. I am not suggesting that this is wrong, they are entitled to hold as much money as they want, but it is disingenuous for you to suggest that the $34 Billion is tied up in the business.
Here's what happens when you try to start imposing some sort of "You're an American Company; pay American taxes" argument: Apple re-incorporates off-shore; its US operations are shunted to a US subsidiary, who works under contract with the main off-shore company. In the end, it pays a lot less tax, but is now a Cayman Islands company.
The old "if we don't pay what we want we will leave" argument. If they are not prepared to pay the appropriate taxes for the privilege of doing business in your country then why let them? This goes for Micro$oft and General Electric too!
Large corporations employ less people than small businesses (a small business is less than 500 people) and yet it is small businesses that bear the brunt of taxation while large corporates get the tax breaks, the ear of the government and multi-million-dollar CEO's
Fair enough, although it didn't scan like a rhetorical question and I am abashed at being "fooled" by the subtlety of you rhetoric.
Why would you assume I didn't already know the answer?
The duck test http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test
Well, compare our infant mortality rates to yours and get back to me.
I just did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate and the UK is 35th on the list with the USA being 49th.
Just to point out being higher on the list is better
So now what?