...RSS isn't really all that useful, except for monitoring people's web pages that are hardly ever updated. And if they are hardly ever updated, then why do you want to monitor them, anyway?
RSS/ATOM gives you a wide range of crap, ranging from "nothing but an HTML link to something", to "the entire article dropped in in an easy to read format, causing you to never, ever have to visit the site that it came from".. depending on what site you subscribe to.
I have slashdot and fark subscribed on one computer.. and I realised.. why even bother? Slashdot and Fark are updated 10-15 times per day, and their RSS feeds are completely and totally useless. About the only thing I actually -use- RSS for is to monitor two of my friends sites that are hardly ever updated.
This is why RSS/Atom isn't being used, because it doesn't HAVE much use.
yeah, exactly how does an "Anti Phishing" toolbar work? Only thing I can think of is a built-in blacklist. Just use Opera, and it will flat out tell you if the site you are looking at is the site that it claims to be.
Currently using Windows, and was using Linux back in June/July, when I discovered the keyboard entry. Keyboard entry crashes GTK on Windows, so does Gimp's "Open Location"...
And the best example, GTK 2 file dialog. It's been turned into a crippled piece of un-usable garbage, that no longer accepts keyboard input (unless you know the secret shortcut key that they don't tell anyone), and they actually had to add seperate "Open Location" functions (which hardly work) to the Gnome software, because even if you do use the special super secret shortcut key, you can't type in a URL anymore.
(and of course, Open Location crashes regularly in Linux, and 100% of the time in Windows)
An Army grunt stands in the rain after marching 12 miles with 35-pound pack on his back and says, "God, this is shit."
An Army Airborne recruit stands in the rain after jumping from an airplane and marching 18 miles with a 45-pound pack on his back and says with a smile, "God, this is the shit."
An Army Airborne Ranger lies in the mud after jumping from a plane into a swamp and marching 25 miles at night past the enemy with a 55-pound pack on his back and says with a grin, "God, I love this shit!"
A Green Beret kneels in the stinking mud of a swamp with a 65-pound pack on his back after jumping from an airplane into the ocean, swimming ten miles to the swamp and crawling 30 miles through the brush to assault the enemy camp and says with a passionate snarl, "God, give me some more of this shit!"
An Air Force recruit sits in an easy chair in his air-conditioned, carpeted quarters and says, "The internet connection's out? What kind of shit is this?"
I agree it's inefficient, and it's silly. I don't have much of a suggestion to improve upon the status quo, though, really.
About the last thing I want is to have to install an operating system just to be able to get a machine running, if i bought that machine pre-assembled, and then have to choose amongst the 28 different offered text editors, select 1, and still get 10 of them that weren't on the list. (sound familiar?)
Actually, the LAST thing I'd want is after all that to have that same operating system not work with software or data that came from my buddy's sytem who has an identical computer, except has a different hard drive. or amount of installed ram. or whatever.
THAT is where the point that i've been trying to make comes in. IE is the least common denominator. 7 years ago, if Netscape had won the browser war, and IE had negligible usage numbers, everyone would be writing for Netscape 4 compatibility. But, that's not how it happened.
They wouldn't be writing for Netscape 6 or Firefox now, they'd still be writing for all those people who never upgraded their browsers.
So, what you're saying, is that I should have to individually purchase every tool with my system, from the computer (even down to it's seperate pieces?) to the kernel to the command line tools, to the GUI, to the email program, the web browser, etc?
I thought we determined in a previous post you had replied to me on, that that wasn't the case. Because that's what you're saying in the first part.
IE's lack of proper OBJECT support has probably been the cause of zillions of wasted hours and dollars. This will be "kind of" fixed in IE7, but will anyone use it? I doubt it.
The belief that a product has to be BETTER to be accepted is how the market is SUPPOSED to work. It's all screwed up though because people just don't care. That's what seems to make this particular capitalism work so well though.
Sure, anyone could write a program to go between the two. And IBM's not going to stop you. Microsoft isn't going to stop you writing a program to go between Word and WordPerfect, either. But, there's absolutely no compelling reason why they should have to tell you HOW to do it.
In early times of computing, the open standards won. We're no longer in that era, though. We're 30 years beyond that time. Now, whatever wins, is whatever gets in the hands of the users.
Hmm. I don't have any problems with VLC crashing. Unless I try to use the VLC plugin, which crashes everything regularly and quite hard. And continued to do so even after I removed it, until I re-installed WMP.
Hallmark of open source programs to not be very nice to other programs.
When I go to Taco Bell, and order a package, I get a Pepsi product. And if I try to bring a competitors product into Taco Bell, they'll tell me to leave. Amazing:D
....and people would probably buy it because the [buffeirng] Alternatives [buffering] kinda [buffering] suck [buffering] compared [buffering] to [get my point?] WMP.
I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but before I realised that iTunes came bundled with the QuickTime player now (there's some more bundling that ought be illegal!), I had noted that I had some weird things running.. apparently itunes/quicktime installs at least three different things to startup, in two or three different places.
...and my dad's ex-wife had no idea that you were supposed to change the oil in a car every 3-6 months, or 3-6000 miles. (her engine went BOOM about an hour after he changed the oil.. the car ran for almost 10 years on it's factory supplied oil)
Are you telling me that the Win32 (and is the new one called Win64?) API is not publicly accessible?
If I'm not mistaken, Word Perfect Office is still out there, and so are other Office competitors. And they run on... WINDOWS!
If some manufacturer made a good version of every single application I could ever possibly want, along with an operating system, I don't think I'd be the one to complain. And neither do the users that that is good for. Why should they?
Operating Linux should require that everyone go and build their Linux From Scratch to get it running, that way nothing is bundled with it.
Everyone has a choice as to wether to buy Microsoft or Red Hat or Novell or IBM or Sun or HP or whatever products. Bundling is bad for the economy, and the consumer, and the industry in question, and is illegal? OK, so, say I want to buy a computer, I need to go to Dell to get a computer, Apple to get an Operating system, Real to get a player that will play one type of a/v, Red Hat to get a GUI, *insert more crap here*
When I buy a car, I get a car, and I also get all the fluids in the car, the gas, the oil, I get tires, I get air in the tires, etc. Is that illegal too?
There is nothing stopping any PC manufacturer from bundling additional software that does not come with Windows along with their PC products.
In fact, a lot of OEMs do bundle Real [buffering] Player with their PCs as well, because WMP's Real support totally sucks ass, and there is a lot out there that is Real. At least, they did when I was selling PCs at retail a few years back.
Exactly who do you see in the Media Player industry? I see Microsoft, Real, Apple.. any others? Those are the big ones. They are all still around, and I highly doubt they are going anywhere. The rest of the competition aren't businesses, so they really don't count as being in the industry.
Web browsing has stagnated for more than half a decade because web developers choose to not use functions that IE has not implemented. Why do they do that? (hint: it's because people want other people to be able to see their web pages. And there are still people out there using goddamn NAVIGATOR TWO POINT OH. Even if IE had been updated in the last 5 years, we'd STILL be in the same place)
I expect that until earthshattering MUST HAVE TECHNOLOGY comes out, anything that has advanced far enough to produce a usable standard, is going to stagnate.
They already do. It's called PAINT. Maybe you've heard of it?
You want to do well in an existing market, you get out there and you do better than the existing products in the market, and/or you at the very least have far better marketing than the existing products in the market.
Why would Microsoft bundle RealPlayer, when they already have their own product that does what Real does (and doesn't suck as bad as Real [buffering] Player)?
(do you know anyone that actually uses Real Player? really?)
Great, I want to use a text editor that operates in EBCDIC, rather than ASCII!
See, there's a REASON you can use text editors on any kind of TEXT file that you want. TEXT is defined in this case as ASCII data. Before ASCII, there were (at least 2, maybe more?) standards for information interchange. I don't think anyone's using EBCDIC anymore, though I could be wrong, but there's a reason for that. They wanted to be able to have their data go from place to place, and still work.
You want a successful word processor? Well, you'll have to operate with the formats that people are already using. Same thing with a text editor, and everything else now. If I pulled out a text editor that couldn't edit standard ASCII, do you think anyone would want it? I don't think so.
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...RSS isn't really all that useful, except for monitoring people's web pages that are hardly ever updated. And if they are hardly ever updated, then why do you want to monitor them, anyway?
RSS/ATOM gives you a wide range of crap, ranging from "nothing but an HTML link to something", to "the entire article dropped in in an easy to read format, causing you to never, ever have to visit the site that it came from".. depending on what site you subscribe to.
I have slashdot and fark subscribed on one computer.. and I realised.. why even bother? Slashdot and Fark are updated 10-15 times per day, and their RSS feeds are completely and totally useless. About the only thing I actually -use- RSS for is to monitor two of my friends sites that are hardly ever updated.
This is why RSS/Atom isn't being used, because it doesn't HAVE much use.
Uh.. They did this with Netscape for about a zillion years, so what's the big deal?
yeah, exactly how does an "Anti Phishing" toolbar work? Only thing I can think of is a built-in blacklist. Just use Opera, and it will flat out tell you if the site you are looking at is the site that it claims to be.
Currently using Windows, and was using Linux back in June/July, when I discovered the keyboard entry. ...
Keyboard entry crashes GTK on Windows, so does Gimp's "Open Location"
Doesn't happen that way on any of the GTK Open dialogs I've encountered. (And I use Gimp and Gaim regularly)
And the best example, GTK 2 file dialog. It's been turned into a crippled piece of un-usable garbage, that no longer accepts keyboard input (unless you know the secret shortcut key that they don't tell anyone), and they actually had to add seperate "Open Location" functions (which hardly work) to the Gnome software, because even if you do use the special super secret shortcut key, you can't type in a URL anymore.
(and of course, Open Location crashes regularly in Linux, and 100% of the time in Windows)
Good job, Gnome!
An Army grunt stands in the rain after marching 12 miles with 35-pound pack on his back and says, "God, this is shit."
An Army Airborne recruit stands in the rain after jumping from an airplane and marching 18 miles with a 45-pound pack on his back and says with a smile, "God, this is the shit."
An Army Airborne Ranger lies in the mud after jumping from a plane into a swamp and marching 25 miles at night past the enemy with a 55-pound pack on his back and says with a grin, "God, I love this shit!"
A Green Beret kneels in the stinking mud of a swamp with a 65-pound pack on his back after jumping from an airplane into the ocean, swimming ten miles to the swamp and crawling 30 miles through the brush to assault the enemy camp and says with a passionate snarl, "God, give me some more of this shit!"
An Air Force recruit sits in an easy chair in his air-conditioned, carpeted quarters and says, "The internet connection's out? What kind of shit is this?"
I agree it's inefficient, and it's silly. I don't have much of a suggestion to improve upon the status quo, though, really.
About the last thing I want is to have to install an operating system just to be able to get a machine running, if i bought that machine pre-assembled, and then have to choose amongst the 28 different offered text editors, select 1, and still get 10 of them that weren't on the list. (sound familiar?)
Actually, the LAST thing I'd want is after all that to have that same operating system not work with software or data that came from my buddy's sytem who has an identical computer, except has a different hard drive. or amount of installed ram. or whatever.
THAT is where the point that i've been trying to make comes in. IE is the least common denominator. 7 years ago, if Netscape had won the browser war, and IE had negligible usage numbers, everyone would be writing for Netscape 4 compatibility. But, that's not how it happened.
They wouldn't be writing for Netscape 6 or Firefox now, they'd still be writing for all those people who never upgraded their browsers.
So, what you're saying, is that I should have to individually purchase every tool with my system, from the computer (even down to it's seperate pieces?) to the kernel to the command line tools, to the GUI, to the email program, the web browser, etc?
I thought we determined in a previous post you had replied to me on, that that wasn't the case. Because that's what you're saying in the first part.
IE's lack of proper OBJECT support has probably been the cause of zillions of wasted hours and dollars. This will be "kind of" fixed in IE7, but will anyone use it? I doubt it.
The belief that a product has to be BETTER to be accepted is how the market is SUPPOSED to work. It's all screwed up though because people just don't care. That's what seems to make this particular capitalism work so well though.
...and who would choose [buffering] Real [buffering] Player over [buffering] WMV [buffering] or AVI [buffering] formats?
That was exactly what I said. You just re-stated it for me, in the opposite sarcasm. :D
"EBCDIC was devised in 1963 and 1964 by IBM".
Sure, anyone could write a program to go between the two. And IBM's not going to stop you. Microsoft isn't going to stop you writing a program to go between Word and WordPerfect, either. But, there's absolutely no compelling reason why they should have to tell you HOW to do it.
In early times of computing, the open standards won. We're no longer in that era, though. We're 30 years beyond that time. Now, whatever wins, is whatever gets in the hands of the users.
IE sucks, so write for Firefox, Opera, etc, and tell your users to upgrade.
Everyone says "wah wah Microsoft harms everyone", but it's only because they choose to be harmed by it.
Hmm. I don't have any problems with VLC crashing. Unless I try to use the VLC plugin, which crashes everything regularly and quite hard. And continued to do so even after I removed it, until I re-installed WMP.
Hallmark of open source programs to not be very nice to other programs.
I don't know of any sites that give me the choice of only playing the media under Windows Media. Do you?
As a matter of fact, you can choose to not install media capability at all, if you'd like.
When I go to Taco Bell, and order a package, I get a Pepsi product. And if I try to bring a competitors product into Taco Bell, they'll tell me to leave. Amazing :D
....and people would probably buy it because the [buffeirng] Alternatives [buffering] kinda [buffering] suck [buffering] compared [buffering] to [get my point?] WMP.
I'm a bit fuzzy on the details, but before I realised that iTunes came bundled with the QuickTime player now (there's some more bundling that ought be illegal!), I had noted that I had some weird things running.. apparently itunes/quicktime installs at least three different things to startup, in two or three different places.
...and my dad's ex-wife had no idea that you were supposed to change the oil in a car every 3-6 months, or 3-6000 miles. (her engine went BOOM about an hour after he changed the oil.. the car ran for almost 10 years on it's factory supplied oil)
It's not our problem that people are dumb.
Are you telling me that the Win32 (and is the new one called Win64?) API is not publicly accessible?
If I'm not mistaken, Word Perfect Office is still out there, and so are other Office competitors. And they run on... WINDOWS!
If some manufacturer made a good version of every single application I could ever possibly want, along with an operating system, I don't think I'd be the one to complain. And neither do the users that that is good for. Why should they?
Operating Linux should require that everyone go and build their Linux From Scratch to get it running, that way nothing is bundled with it.
Everyone has a choice as to wether to buy Microsoft or Red Hat or Novell or IBM or Sun or HP or whatever products. Bundling is bad for the economy, and the consumer, and the industry in question, and is illegal? OK, so, say I want to buy a computer, I need to go to Dell to get a computer, Apple to get an Operating system, Real to get a player that will play one type of a/v, Red Hat to get a GUI, *insert more crap here*
When I buy a car, I get a car, and I also get all the fluids in the car, the gas, the oil, I get tires, I get air in the tires, etc. Is that illegal too?
There is nothing stopping any PC manufacturer from bundling additional software that does not come with Windows along with their PC products.
In fact, a lot of OEMs do bundle Real [buffering] Player with their PCs as well, because WMP's Real support totally sucks ass, and there is a lot out there that is Real. At least, they did when I was selling PCs at retail a few years back.
Exactly who do you see in the Media Player industry? I see Microsoft, Real, Apple.. any others? Those are the big ones. They are all still around, and I highly doubt they are going anywhere. The rest of the competition aren't businesses, so they really don't count as being in the industry.
Web browsing has stagnated for more than half a decade because web developers choose to not use functions that IE has not implemented. Why do they do that? (hint: it's because people want other people to be able to see their web pages. And there are still people out there using goddamn NAVIGATOR TWO POINT OH. Even if IE had been updated in the last 5 years, we'd STILL be in the same place)
I expect that until earthshattering MUST HAVE TECHNOLOGY comes out, anything that has advanced far enough to produce a usable standard, is going to stagnate.
They already do. It's called PAINT. Maybe you've heard of it?
You want to do well in an existing market, you get out there and you do better than the existing products in the market, and/or you at the very least have far better marketing than the existing products in the market.
Why would Microsoft bundle RealPlayer, when they already have their own product that does what Real does (and doesn't suck as bad as Real [buffering] Player)?
(do you know anyone that actually uses Real Player? really?)
Great, I want to use a text editor that operates in EBCDIC, rather than ASCII!
See, there's a REASON you can use text editors on any kind of TEXT file that you want. TEXT is defined in this case as ASCII data. Before ASCII, there were (at least 2, maybe more?) standards for information interchange. I don't think anyone's using EBCDIC anymore, though I could be wrong, but there's a reason for that. They wanted to be able to have their data go from place to place, and still work.
You want a successful word processor? Well, you'll have to operate with the formats that people are already using. Same thing with a text editor, and everything else now. If I pulled out a text editor that couldn't edit standard ASCII, do you think anyone would want it? I don't think so.