This is your survival on the line here, your job is your survival, you make money here, and you cannot allow people to stab you in the back and make you lose your job, get less money, etc etc
Its a competition, despite what anyone may say, when it comes down to it, its competition. Thats how capitalism works, corperations compete, employees compete, and the competition creates better products
This doesnt mean people competiting should be friends with each other, i suppose if everyone whos competiting is a rich CEO, then yeah, but if you are all struggling to make ends meet, how can you be so friendly to your competition, the guy who wants to get YOUR spot, or the guy whos competiting with you for a spot?
How can you backstab someone who doesnt give you the knife to do it with?
In order to backstab a person you need some sorta personal information, leverage, or something to use against them.
If everyone only talks to you about technical stuff all the time, and never gets on that personal kinda level its impossible to backstab them right?
So if you are a professional, instead of telling your life story to your competitors at work, and instead of giving them ammo, what you do is you tell them only what they need to know, when they NEED to know it.
When they ask you what you think about a certain person at work, you dont answer that question, you ask them about the benifits of using java over C for the cross platform application they are developing.;
When you talk to people in a more professional and careful manner, you leave no opening for them to backstab you.
Can microsoft get backstabbed when make deals with companies? Nope because they do it in a professional way.
Can you get backstabbed if you are apple and you get personal with bill gates? Yes.
People who make 30k to 60k will do anything to make more money because theres people want to move up the ladder.
Some of these people will do anything, and i mean anything, to make more money. Including exploiting people, talking to people claiming to be their friend, listening to the person complain about the boss or something work related (most people complain about work all the time) and then report it to the boss to gain the bosses trust so the boss gives them a raise.
You must be making more money than the average worker, so moving up doesnt really matter much if you are at the top.
I dont know WHERE you work, but most work places and i'm talking most of them, they are filled with competitive people, who want more money than you, and because theres only one person who can get a certain position, or who can move up, everyone fights each other for the spot.
Connections are important, social skills are vital to moving up, social engineering is important, but friendship is not.
You dont need to have friends at work, some people want to have them, I wouldnt mind having them if i am not working in a competitive field, working at non profits, i didnt mind having friends at work, working for a corperation, things are diffrent.
When you have bills to pay, and you know everyone else has them too, friendship comes second, survival comes first.
Its easier to avoid having to choose between survival or your friendships by simply not having friends at work.
When you go to work do you think "Lets go make some money today" Or do you think "Lets go have some fun"
Some people actually want to make money, Some people are serious, some people have bills to pay, families to feed, and backstabbing a co worker so their kid can have something he wants for xmas or so they can pay off a bill, it becomes a very logical move to make.
You dont choose the people you work with, YOU CHOOSE your friends. Its usually a bad idea to try to create emotional ties to something like work, work is competitive.
I dont know what kinda enviornment you are in, but at work, if you dont compete for the raise, you wont get a raise EVER, the guy who backstabs everyone or kisses the bosses ass usually gets the raise.
Perhaps you dont work for the money, BUT alot of people DO work for the money, especially people who arent making 100k a year like you must be making, money really matters when you have less of it, and people will do ANYTHING to get more of it, especially when they have children and wives.
At work, you dont know who is your friend, and who is not.
IF you treat everyone like a business partner, then theres no way for them to backstab you.
If you were steve jobs, you'd tell bill gates all your ideas over a beer one night, because hes your "friend"
Then you'd be at his mercy when he comes out with ideas based off of yours.
You can gamble and try to make friends at work, i mean if you knew people before they got the job or know the boss before he was a boss then its not so bad, but most people didnt know people before they got the job.
Essentially, they are all competition. Everyone doing anything they can to make sure they get more money.
Theres no friends in business, theres no friends in work, theres only assosiates, and business partners
to think that theres friends is like thinking IBM is our friend because they help promote linux.
You took a huge risk, work is not the place to take such risks, Your life is on the line literally.
So you met your wife at work, GOOD for you, most people meet a backstabbing liar who wants a raise or an ass kisser to the boss.
Lucky is winning the lottery, Lucky is becoming a millionare, Lucly is running a successful business without getting purchased by Microsoft, Lucky is a person who makes friends at work.
Work is all about competition, alot of the people you think are your friends really arent, and its not worth the risk. Money first, Friends second.
Before I said friends at work was dumb but i didnt go into detail why.
Take a look at Bill gates, Steve jobs etc, They were friends at work, but they were also competitors, backstabbing each other for money at every chance.
Someone who is a competitor can never be your friend, because they are your competition.
Look at the business genius bill gates, how did he get where he is today? Friendships at work!!!!
Its good to have assosiates at work, but these arent really friends, these are people who you call contacts, or if you are a backstabbing liar like bill gates you use these people to move up, but they arent your friend.
You are correct. Its absolutely STUPID to bring your personal life to your work, because eventually someone at work is going ot ruin your life to get a raise, or a promotion, or whatever, then where does that leave you?
Well now you'll be depressed because you thought person X who used you as a stepping stone was your friend.
Having friends are work is just dumb, dont you people learn anything from Steve jobs and bill gates?
Everyone at work is essentially your comptition, when it comes time to get that raise, your so called friend will use everything against you he can to make sure he gets the raise and not you, and because YOU were stupid enough to allow this competitor into your life, you suffer the concequences when they ruin it.
Lets get a few facts straight, theres no such thing, as a "Friend" at work, these are called assosiates, you work with them, but you are careful what you say around them. Talk bad about the boss around the wrong guy and next thing you know you'll be fired or in your bosses office explaining yourself.
I know i cant be the only person here who knows that the first rule is never trust anyone at work.
The second rule is never try to make friends with people at work.
Third rule is not to date women from work. If you are a high up CEO or boss, and all the women are after you, dont fall for it, you know they just want a raise and want to move up.
Well enough with my rules, I'm sure everyone knows the rules, but some people are too blind to follow.
Thats why bush wants to make a more public government internet for the common government employee.
The private internet Bush himself most likely cant even use is what you'd call, a military secret, only used for serious business by intelligence agencies to exchange information with the military, and people know about it on a need to know basis, its not common knowledge, and only a few people actually know how the whole thing works technology wise, so even if you've used it, 1 you wouldnt know how it worked, and 2 the people who do know how it works prolly have no clue what its being used for.
Whats Bush Talking about? The government has had independent secure private internets since before we even had the internet.
Why are they telling us what they are building unless its going to be a public government internet.
I mean really, if something is private and secure, the last thing to do is tell the world about it.
When the government wants to keep secrets they can, and they do so by not telling us anything about it,
Perhaps bush wants an internet seperate of the private government internets already in place so he can email his friends in various other countries on any computer (not just the secure private ones) without worrying about people reading his msgs.
What we believe is true, is simply our best way of understanding something, but our limited senses of sight, hearing, smell and so on, limit us into what we can judge as true.
something which can see in 2d, we believe to be real, correct? What about things which we cant see,
If we see in 2d, we only see one side of an object, what about the other 2 sides? we can use math to predict and find the length of whats on these other two sides, but theres no way we can ever SEE whats on the other 2 sides.
Now consider this, an alien species which isnt even from this dimension, it would see from all sides, all angles, all at once, its view of the world would be TOTALLY diffrent than ours, its technology would be TOTALLY diffrent, and if we ever met up with such a force, we wouldnt even know its there, yet it would know exactly where EACH and every single one of us are.
So what we see as true, is only true in our OWN eyes, what something more intelligent sees as true, is true in its eyes as well as in our eyes.
Get it? An alien life form which has evolved beyond our dimension or which is simply beyond our dimension, can in theory see everything from every angle, if we met them we'd think God was talking to us, we'd here a voice come from the sky which simply speaks to us and because we are so stupid we may even worship this voice, write bibles and so on.
When That could have been first contact and we never realized it.
Kiddie porn shouldnt be illegal to trade, it should be illegal to create.
Meaning the guys who create the pictures, or who sell the pictures and profit from it, should go to jail.
Information however no matter what it is, if its on the net, it should be free, meaning there are no rules and anyone can download or trade anything.
However, if you trade things like kiddie porn, then the government and autorities have every right to monitor you, just like if you trade mp3s, the RIAA has every right to monitor you.
I dont support the RIAA, but really if you trade something and someone doesnt like what you are trading, unless you do it privately, free informatino works both ways, they have a right to monitor you, you have a right to trade whatever you want.
I dont think however it should be illegal to trade any file, i mean if somethings on napster or freenet and no ones profiting from it, then its just sharing information, but if some guy is actually making a living off of something like kiddie porn, or selling music thats not theirs, THAT is wrong. And if people monitor you and you subscribe and pay $$ to support a company like this, THEN you should be put in jail along with that company.
So my opinion says its fair to trade and share information thats illegal but its not right to actually profit off of it or contribute to it by giving someone money.
We shouldnt mix technology with art.
Music is art, no computer program will ever replace a good DJ, or good musician.
Why even try?
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Well the same could have been said about Dreamcast when PS2 launched with no games.
People dont buy systems for games, they buy over hype, over whats the most powerful, the best advertised, etc.
Ps2 beat DC with no good games, just hype.
Xbox will beat Ps2 for this same reason, Xbox is more powerful, Its Microsoft, has better marketing, etc.
And Square did say they were going multi platform, Square was Sonys only exclusive developer, Sony has no one, not even Namco.
Tekken 4 and Soul Caliber 2 coming to Gamecube, Final Fantasy coming to Xbox and Gamecube, Why get a PS2?
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PS2 is already dead, graphically its not even in the same league as Xbox or Gamecube, and Square and all their third parties are running to Gamecube and Xbox, PS2 is in the same situation as Dreamcast was in when PS2 Launched.
Xbox, is very powerful, however Microsoft has done a very bad job in Marketing, and the games suck, not really a single good Xbox game except Halo and Xbox games look worse than Gamecube and some even on the Dreamcast/PS2 level.
Gamecube seems to be the only System with revolutionary games, Good graphics, Great marketing, and Great price.
Gamecube has the best graphics mainly because Nintendo was smart, they knew having 100 million polygons is useless if the polygons have ugly textures, so what they did is settled for maybe 12 million polygons with high quality textures and tons of special effects.
So while Gamecube may not be able to render the polygons of Xbox or even PS2, the games look better because it can do more special effects, and the textures are such higher quality that Gamecube games look either like Cartoons, or they look so realistic that you'd think it was fully rendered on a super computer.
Xbox is a very good machine hardware wise, but they need to take advantage of the power of Xbox in a way which matters, I dont want to see Xbox games with jaggies looking like a PS2 game, If Xbox has power, it should make games which simply cannot be done on any other system, Like Multiplayer RPGs, Games which let you completely edit them, Games which use the harddrive to store textures, sound, etc.
Right now they are just using the DVD, and pixel for pixel, Gamecube absolutely destroys the Xbox in quality, what Xbox must do is use quantity, use more textures than gamecube, make big huge games which cant fit on a gamecube disk, take advantage of the ethernet for online gaming, and most importantly, use the pentium CPU for software based special effects than gamecube simply can never do.
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This is your survival on the line here, your job is your survival, you make money here, and you cannot allow people to stab you in the back and make you lose your job, get less money, etc etc
Its a competition, despite what anyone may say, when it comes down to it, its competition. Thats how capitalism works, corperations compete, employees compete, and the competition creates better products
This doesnt mean people competiting should be friends with each other, i suppose if everyone whos competiting is a rich CEO, then yeah, but if you are all struggling to make ends meet, how can you be so friendly to your competition, the guy who wants to get YOUR spot, or the guy whos competiting with you for a spot?
How can you backstab someone who doesnt give you the knife to do it with?
In order to backstab a person you need some sorta personal information, leverage, or something to use against them.
If everyone only talks to you about technical stuff all the time, and never gets on that personal kinda level its impossible to backstab them right?
So if you are a professional, instead of telling your life story to your competitors at work, and instead of giving them ammo, what you do is you tell them only what they need to know, when they NEED to know it.
When they ask you what you think about a certain person at work, you dont answer that question, you ask them about the benifits of using java over C for the cross platform application they are developing.;
When you talk to people in a more professional and careful manner, you leave no opening for them to backstab you.
Can microsoft get backstabbed when make deals with companies? Nope because they do it in a professional way.
Can you get backstabbed if you are apple and you get personal with bill gates? Yes.
Theres a diffrence.
People who make 30k to 60k will do anything to make more money because theres people want to move up the ladder.
Some of these people will do anything, and i mean anything, to make more money. Including exploiting people, talking to people claiming to be their friend, listening to the person complain about the boss or something work related (most people complain about work all the time) and then report it to the boss to gain the bosses trust so the boss gives them a raise.
You must be making more money than the average worker, so moving up doesnt really matter much if you are at the top.
I dont know WHERE you work, but most work places and i'm talking most of them, they are filled with competitive people, who want more money than you, and because theres only one person who can get a certain position, or who can move up, everyone fights each other for the spot.
Connections are important, social skills are vital to moving up, social engineering is important, but friendship is not.
You dont need to have friends at work, some people want to have them, I wouldnt mind having them if i am not working in a competitive field, working at non profits, i didnt mind having friends at work, working for a corperation, things are diffrent.
When you have bills to pay, and you know everyone else has them too, friendship comes second, survival comes first.
Its easier to avoid having to choose between survival or your friendships by simply not having friends at work.
It depends on how you view work.
When you go to work do you think "Lets go make some money today" Or do you think "Lets go have some fun"
Some people actually want to make money, Some people are serious, some people have bills to pay, families to feed, and backstabbing a co worker so their kid can have something he wants for xmas or so they can pay off a bill, it becomes a very logical move to make.
You dont choose the people you work with, YOU CHOOSE your friends. Its usually a bad idea to try to create emotional ties to something like work, work is competitive.
I dont know what kinda enviornment you are in, but at work, if you dont compete for the raise, you wont get a raise EVER, the guy who backstabs everyone or kisses the bosses ass usually gets the raise.
Perhaps you dont work for the money, BUT alot of people DO work for the money, especially people who arent making 100k a year like you must be making, money really matters when you have less of it, and people will do ANYTHING to get more of it, especially when they have children and wives.
At work, you dont know who is your friend, and who is not.
IF you treat everyone like a business partner, then theres no way for them to backstab you.
If you were steve jobs, you'd tell bill gates all your ideas over a beer one night, because hes your "friend"
Then you'd be at his mercy when he comes out with ideas based off of yours.
You can gamble and try to make friends at work, i mean if you knew people before they got the job or know the boss before he was a boss then its not so bad, but most people didnt know people before they got the job.
Essentially, they are all competition. Everyone doing anything they can to make sure they get more money.
Theres no friends in business, theres no friends in work, theres only assosiates, and business partners
to think that theres friends is like thinking IBM is our friend because they help promote linux.
You took a huge risk, work is not the place to take such risks, Your life is on the line literally.
So you met your wife at work, GOOD for you, most people meet a backstabbing liar who wants a raise or an ass kisser to the boss.
Lucky is winning the lottery, Lucky is becoming a millionare, Lucly is running a successful business without getting purchased by Microsoft, Lucky is a person who makes friends at work.
Work is all about competition, alot of the people you think are your friends really arent, and its not worth the risk. Money first, Friends second.
Now you'll know to never trust anyone at work.
People at work will backstab you every chance they get, report you to the boss, spy for the boss, even lie about you to move up.
Make friends with the boss hoping he will give you a raise. You fit into the kiss the bosses ass catagory.
Almost like the people I remember from school who made friends with the teacher to get a better grade (teachers pet)
But hey, YOU'd get the raise alot sooner than I would, thats the benifits to kissing the bosses ass right?
Friends at work? No such thing. Ass kissers at work? Plenty.
The reason the computer is cool is because its not as stressful (emotional can easily turn into stressful) as life OFFLINE.
Because when online gets stressful, theres always the off button.
and contacts, and networking.
Work is not a place to make friends, its a place to make money, the more allies you have on your team, the more money YOU make.
Its a competition, its like war
You dont make friends in War, you make allies, you have peace treaties, you dont make "friends"
Before I said friends at work was dumb but i didnt go into detail why.
Take a look at Bill gates, Steve jobs etc, They were friends at work, but they were also competitors, backstabbing each other for money at every chance.
Someone who is a competitor can never be your friend, because they are your competition.
Look at the business genius bill gates, how did he get where he is today? Friendships at work!!!!
Its good to have assosiates at work, but these arent really friends, these are people who you call contacts, or if you are a backstabbing liar like bill gates you use these people to move up, but they arent your friend.
You are correct. Its absolutely STUPID to bring your personal life to your work, because eventually someone at work is going ot ruin your life to get a raise, or a promotion, or whatever, then where does that leave you?
Well now you'll be depressed because you thought person X who used you as a stepping stone was your friend.
Having friends are work is just dumb, dont you people learn anything from Steve jobs and bill gates?
Everyone at work is essentially your comptition, when it comes time to get that raise, your so called friend will use everything against you he can to make sure he gets the raise and not you, and because YOU were stupid enough to allow this competitor into your life, you suffer the concequences when they ruin it.
Lets get a few facts straight, theres no such thing, as a "Friend" at work, these are called assosiates, you work with them, but you are careful what you say around them. Talk bad about the boss around the wrong guy and next thing you know you'll be fired or in your bosses office explaining yourself.
I know i cant be the only person here who knows that the first rule is never trust anyone at work.
The second rule is never try to make friends with people at work.
Third rule is not to date women from work. If you are a high up CEO or boss, and all the women are after you, dont fall for it, you know they just want a raise and want to move up.
Well enough with my rules, I'm sure everyone knows the rules, but some people are too blind to follow.
Thats why bush wants to make a more public government internet for the common government employee.
The private internet Bush himself most likely cant even use is what you'd call, a military secret, only used for serious business by intelligence agencies to exchange information with the military, and people know about it on a need to know basis, its not common knowledge, and only a few people actually know how the whole thing works technology wise, so even if you've used it, 1 you wouldnt know how it worked, and 2 the people who do know how it works prolly have no clue what its being used for.
This is funny.
The president talks to a "Mr. Clarke" and i think its really clear who this Mr.Clarke fellow is,
It would be funny if the unhackable internet ends up being based on freenet or uprizer.
as much as i like the idea of this, i dont like the idea of freenet people working for government, the two just dont mix.
Whats Bush Talking about? The government has had independent secure private internets since before we even had the internet.
Why are they telling us what they are building unless its going to be a public government internet.
I mean really, if something is private and secure, the last thing to do is tell the world about it.
When the government wants to keep secrets they can, and they do so by not telling us anything about it,
Perhaps bush wants an internet seperate of the private government internets already in place so he can email his friends in various other countries on any computer (not just the secure private ones) without worrying about people reading his msgs.
Perhaps all of our scientists are on acid, because i got it from them
What we believe is true, is simply our best way of understanding something, but our limited senses of sight, hearing, smell and so on, limit us into what we can judge as true.
something which can see in 2d, we believe to be real, correct? What about things which we cant see,
If we see in 2d, we only see one side of an object, what about the other 2 sides? we can use math to predict and find the length of whats on these other two sides, but theres no way we can ever SEE whats on the other 2 sides.
Now consider this, an alien species which isnt even from this dimension, it would see from all sides, all angles, all at once, its view of the world would be TOTALLY diffrent than ours, its technology would be TOTALLY diffrent, and if we ever met up with such a force, we wouldnt even know its there, yet it would know exactly where EACH and every single one of us are.
So what we see as true, is only true in our OWN eyes, what something more intelligent sees as true, is true in its eyes as well as in our eyes.
Get it? An alien life form which has evolved beyond our dimension or which is simply beyond our dimension, can in theory see everything from every angle, if we met them we'd think God was talking to us, we'd here a voice come from the sky which simply speaks to us and because we are so stupid we may even worship this voice, write bibles and so on.
When That could have been first contact and we never realized it.
Kiddie porn shouldnt be illegal to trade, it should be illegal to create.
Meaning the guys who create the pictures, or who sell the pictures and profit from it, should go to jail.
Information however no matter what it is, if its on the net, it should be free, meaning there are no rules and anyone can download or trade anything.
However, if you trade things like kiddie porn, then the government and autorities have every right to monitor you, just like if you trade mp3s, the RIAA has every right to monitor you.
I dont support the RIAA, but really if you trade something and someone doesnt like what you are trading, unless you do it privately, free informatino works both ways, they have a right to monitor you, you have a right to trade whatever you want.
I dont think however it should be illegal to trade any file, i mean if somethings on napster or freenet and no ones profiting from it, then its just sharing information, but if some guy is actually making a living off of something like kiddie porn, or selling music thats not theirs, THAT is wrong. And if people monitor you and you subscribe and pay $$ to support a company like this, THEN you should be put in jail along with that company.
So my opinion says its fair to trade and share information thats illegal but its not right to actually profit off of it or contribute to it by giving someone money.
I never said i agreed with it, Actually i want free sharing of information on the internet and support freenet.
We shouldnt mix technology with art.
Music is art, no computer program will ever replace a good DJ, or good musician.
Why even try?
Well the same could have been said about Dreamcast when PS2 launched with no games.
People dont buy systems for games, they buy over hype, over whats the most powerful, the best advertised, etc.
Ps2 beat DC with no good games, just hype.
Xbox will beat Ps2 for this same reason, Xbox is more powerful, Its Microsoft, has better marketing, etc.
And Square did say they were going multi platform, Square was Sonys only exclusive developer, Sony has no one, not even Namco.
Tekken 4 and Soul Caliber 2 coming to Gamecube, Final Fantasy coming to Xbox and Gamecube, Why get a PS2?
PS2 is already dead, graphically its not even in the same league as Xbox or Gamecube, and Square and all their third parties are running to Gamecube and Xbox, PS2 is in the same situation as Dreamcast was in when PS2 Launched.
Xbox, is very powerful, however Microsoft has done a very bad job in Marketing, and the games suck, not really a single good Xbox game except Halo and Xbox games look worse than Gamecube and some even on the Dreamcast/PS2 level.
Gamecube seems to be the only System with revolutionary games, Good graphics, Great marketing, and Great price.
Gamecube has the best graphics mainly because Nintendo was smart, they knew having 100 million polygons is useless if the polygons have ugly textures, so what they did is settled for maybe 12 million polygons with high quality textures and tons of special effects.
So while Gamecube may not be able to render the polygons of Xbox or even PS2, the games look better because it can do more special effects, and the textures are such higher quality that Gamecube games look either like Cartoons, or they look so realistic that you'd think it was fully rendered on a super computer.
Xbox is a very good machine hardware wise, but they need to take advantage of the power of Xbox in a way which matters, I dont want to see Xbox games with jaggies looking like a PS2 game, If Xbox has power, it should make games which simply cannot be done on any other system, Like Multiplayer RPGs, Games which let you completely edit them, Games which use the harddrive to store textures, sound, etc.
Right now they are just using the DVD, and pixel for pixel, Gamecube absolutely destroys the Xbox in quality, what Xbox must do is use quantity, use more textures than gamecube, make big huge games which cant fit on a gamecube disk, take advantage of the ethernet for online gaming, and most importantly, use the pentium CPU for software based special effects than gamecube simply can never do.