That is not the arguement. The fact is, 90% of users use the same few applications, and those applications workk under Linux.
These are the facts, this is not opinion, there is nothing to debate, people do not use the apps which dont run under Wine, and all the apps which people do use run under Wine.
Interesting, but how can we fund them? They dont accept donations, they dont have a way for someone like me who doesnt have the skills to develop Xrender to pay people who do.
Also the only reason its taking so long is because they wont fork, theres millions of developers who Redhat, Suse, Lindows etc would love to pay to develop Xrender, you think Keith Packard is the only developer in the world qualified to do this? No hes not, and neither is Carl Worth, but until there is a fork, everything goes through this core group of developers who decide everything.
Its a management issue moreso than lack of developers or lack of money, believe me if Transgaming can get money, Xfree could get about x10 that amount of money, Mandrake has 15,000 subscribers paying $60 a year or something.
This isnt about money, its not about lack of programmers, its about management, the developers argue and fight over stupid stuff on mailing lists, theres only two developers working on Xrender and these developers seem over worked because they are doing so many other projects.
Its more complicated than it seems.
Xwin is not an official fork, at least I was told that it wasnt a fork, it was more of a threat of a fork, I am wishing and hoping they DO fork and then accept money somehow so we can pay developers to write this very important code.
This isnt an issue of blame, its an issue of responsibility.
Our government was built to prevent stuff like this from happening, this is after 911, its their !@#$ job to do this! This is why they have spent all this money and took away our rights with the partiot act.
So yes I'm pissed off, at our government, I'm also pissed off at the media, and the canadian government.
Everyone was sitting ducks running around in the dark, terrorists could have sniped away at people and no one can do anything because our government didnt plan for the electricity to go out?!
All this money on missle defense system, protecting airports, and homeland security, and then out lights go out and we are vulnerable as hell with absolutely NO security.
Come on, you know something has to be done, I'm not caring about blame, I want to hear what will be done about this.
I attack anyones credibility when they claim something is not terrorism without really knowing for sure, you dont make a statement on national TV saying "we are 100% sure its not terrorism" unless you actually know what it is.
I dont want to hear government people speculating, sure it doesnt appear to be terrorism, but until you know what it is, I'm not going to take you seriously.
Just like during 911 when the first plane hit, the news people were saying it didnt appear to be terrorism, this all changed when a second and third plane hit.
Until we see retired engineers like you say on tv, we will have a credibility problem.
I'm a critical thinker, I dont believe you say something just because you say it, you have to know what you are talking about, and have good evidence to support your claims.
So get a retired Engineer up there. During the Iraq war there was NO shortage of retired generals giving us information on what was going on.
Get some retired engineers on TV if you think all the engineers in the country are working on this.
I'm sure theres hundreds of retired engineers just waiting to go on TV and talk about this.
Until we have them come on tv and explain whats going on, well I dont know whats going on and I'm going to speculate, what else can a normal person do?
The country is us, its the people. Not the land, not the technology, the people.
So I dont understand what exactly you are trying to say, its not registering.
The country is made up of people, and the people arent telling me to go to hell, you are. You have that right, but this doesnt change the fact that I also have the right to ask questions. You dont like it? Stop reading my posts, you dont have to like me.
Thats just the problem, I dont believe the news, the news is getting to be so far right of far left, that its too political to believe. I get my information from the internet.
I do not believe some gov official just because they say its so, I need evidence, I need to see an expert tell me what happened, not the mayor.
I actually dont get my news from NPR because I know its slanted just like fox news. Instead I actually gather my own evidence and decide for myself.
I dont understand why people get mad when a person asks questions about what happened. So its not terrorism? Well what is it?
IF the government is so clear that its not terrorism they should also be the first to tell us what exactly happened, or else they shouldnt make a statement at all until they KNOW what happened.
I'm not saying I matter, and I'm not saying you matter, I'm saying we matter. The Government exists to protect US, this is their primary focus, when something goes wrong its their job to fix it, and tell us what went wrong.
I have every right to ask questions, its my country.
Especially if you use Windows, and someone gives you a virus. This is why we have anti virus software to stop cyber terrorists.
However, imagine running some of the most important computers in the world, and it mysteriously reboots and the whole country shuts down, you know that alot of people want to stop your country, do you rule out terrorists? No.
Just like if your website is always registering hack attempts you expect it was a hacker when things go wrong with the site.
Stop being so pissed, Sure it just happened, I'm asking for an Engineer to go on TV and speak to the world telling what they think happened. Just one engineer. I dont want the mayor, or some regular tv guy, but an expert.
They cant choose one person to speak to the news people?
Come on!
You are right it may be too soon to ask, I just think that the news broadcasts should get at least ONE engineer or expert on to talk about what happened.
I'm not a Windows user, my computer doesnt crash randomly.
I know how my computer works inside and out, Hardware failures do happen, but they are very very rare, and you'd think that with all our money we would upgrade out hardware before it fails.
We pay the governments salary, how can you say the people arent important?
This isnt a murder case, I'm not asking for forensics, I'm asking to know what happened.
Thats what the news is for.
I do know what happened. A blackout occured due to power-grid overload. The power-grid overloaded due to too much strain or hardware failure, which will be determined after the investigation finishe. At that point, you will be informed via news outlets.
You might be right, but how do you know for sure when you dont have any evidence of what happened?
We know a blackout occured, we suspect its because of an overloaded power grid.
So why did the hardware fail? Was it the MSblaster?
And no, I'm trying to get quicker results because the news isnt saying shit. I'm hoping the local engineer on slashdot can explain.
Second I'd want our gov to stop using Windows, third I'd want all important computers to stop using Windows and fourth I'd want our government to pay for ads to advertise alternatives to Windows.
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That is not the arguement. The fact is, 90% of users use the same few applications, and those applications workk under Linux.
These are the facts, this is not opinion, there is nothing to debate, people do not use the apps which dont run under Wine, and all the apps which people do use run under Wine.
When was the last time you used Linux? In 2000? Its changed ALOT since 2000.
Interesting, but how can we fund them? They dont accept donations, they dont have a way for someone like me who doesnt have the skills to develop Xrender to pay people who do.
2 people on Xrender is why its taking so long.
Also the only reason its taking so long is because they wont fork, theres millions of developers who Redhat, Suse, Lindows etc would love to pay to develop Xrender, you think Keith Packard is the only developer in the world qualified to do this? No hes not, and neither is Carl Worth, but until there is a fork, everything goes through this core group of developers who decide everything.
Its a management issue moreso than lack of developers or lack of money, believe me if Transgaming can get money, Xfree could get about x10 that amount of money, Mandrake has 15,000 subscribers paying $60 a year or something.
This isnt about money, its not about lack of programmers, its about management, the developers argue and fight over stupid stuff on mailing lists, theres only two developers working on Xrender and these developers seem over worked because they are doing so many other projects.
Its more complicated than it seems.
Xwin is not an official fork, at least I was told that it wasnt a fork, it was more of a threat of a fork, I am wishing and hoping they DO fork and then accept money somehow so we can pay developers to write this very important code.
What Apps can I not run under Linux?
My browser works, most of my games work, Photoshop works, Microsoft word works,
Do your research, Wine, Transgaming, Crossoveroffice
This is when I predict Xrender will be complete and Linux will be set to compete with OSX and Windows Longhorn in terms of rendering.
I suggest that Rasterman just forget about Xrender and use directfb or opengl.
Keith please explain this! This shouldnt happen.
Also how many more years will it take before Linux can compete with OSX? 5 more years? Maybe 10? We have forever and a day you know.
This isnt an issue of blame, its an issue of responsibility.
Our government was built to prevent stuff like this from happening, this is after 911, its their !@#$ job to do this! This is why they have spent all this money and took away our rights with the partiot act.
So yes I'm pissed off, at our government, I'm also pissed off at the media, and the canadian government.
Everyone was sitting ducks running around in the dark, terrorists could have sniped away at people and no one can do anything because our government didnt plan for the electricity to go out?!
All this money on missle defense system, protecting airports, and homeland security, and then out lights go out and we are vulnerable as hell with absolutely NO security.
Come on, you know something has to be done, I'm not caring about blame, I want to hear what will be done about this.
I dont watch NPR or fox news, I prefer CNN.
I attack anyones credibility when they claim something is not terrorism without really knowing for sure, you dont make a statement on national TV saying "we are 100% sure its not terrorism" unless you actually know what it is.
I dont want to hear government people speculating, sure it doesnt appear to be terrorism, but until you know what it is, I'm not going to take you seriously.
Just like during 911 when the first plane hit, the news people were saying it didnt appear to be terrorism, this all changed when a second and third plane hit.
This is what annoys me.
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All this BS and blame game crap in the time of a crisis.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/americas/08/15/powe
What conspiracy theory? I didnt come up with any theory, I just said I want to see some evidence.
Until we see retired engineers like you say on tv, we will have a credibility problem.
I'm a critical thinker, I dont believe you say something just because you say it, you have to know what you are talking about, and have good evidence to support your claims.
So get a retired Engineer up there. During the Iraq war there was NO shortage of retired generals giving us information on what was going on.
Get some retired engineers on TV if you think all the engineers in the country are working on this.
I'm sure theres hundreds of retired engineers just waiting to go on TV and talk about this.
Until we have them come on tv and explain whats going on, well I dont know whats going on and I'm going to speculate, what else can a normal person do?
The country is us, its the people. Not the land, not the technology, the people.
So I dont understand what exactly you are trying to say, its not registering.
The country is made up of people, and the people arent telling me to go to hell, you are. You have that right, but this doesnt change the fact that I also have the right to ask questions. You dont like it? Stop reading my posts, you dont have to like me.
Thats just the problem, I dont believe the news, the news is getting to be so far right of far left, that its too political to believe. I get my information from the internet.
I do not believe some gov official just because they say its so, I need evidence, I need to see an expert tell me what happened, not the mayor.
I actually dont get my news from NPR because I know its slanted just like fox news. Instead I actually gather my own evidence and decide for myself.
I dont understand why people get mad when a person asks questions about what happened. So its not terrorism? Well what is it?
IF the government is so clear that its not terrorism they should also be the first to tell us what exactly happened, or else they shouldnt make a statement at all until they KNOW what happened.
I'm not saying I matter, and I'm not saying you matter, I'm saying we matter. The Government exists to protect US, this is their primary focus, when something goes wrong its their job to fix it, and tell us what went wrong.
I have every right to ask questions, its my country.
Especially if you use Windows, and someone gives you a virus. This is why we have anti virus software to stop cyber terrorists.
However, imagine running some of the most important computers in the world, and it mysteriously reboots and the whole country shuts down, you know that alot of people want to stop your country, do you rule out terrorists? No.
Just like if your website is always registering hack attempts you expect it was a hacker when things go wrong with the site.
Stop being so pissed, Sure it just happened, I'm asking for an Engineer to go on TV and speak to the world telling what they think happened. Just one engineer. I dont want the mayor, or some regular tv guy, but an expert.
They cant choose one person to speak to the news people?
Come on!
You are right it may be too soon to ask, I just think that the news broadcasts should get at least ONE engineer or expert on to talk about what happened.
I'm not a Windows user, my computer doesnt crash randomly.
I know how my computer works inside and out, Hardware failures do happen, but they are very very rare, and you'd think that with all our money we would upgrade out hardware before it fails.
We pay the governments salary, how can you say the people arent important?
This isnt a murder case, I'm not asking for forensics, I'm asking to know what happened.
Thats what the news is for.
I do know what happened. A blackout occured due to power-grid overload. The power-grid overloaded due to too much strain or hardware failure, which will be determined after the investigation finishe. At that point, you will be informed via news outlets.
You might be right, but how do you know for sure when you dont have any evidence of what happened?
We know a blackout occured, we suspect its because of an overloaded power grid.
So why did the hardware fail? Was it the MSblaster?
And no, I'm trying to get quicker results because the news isnt saying shit. I'm hoping the local engineer on slashdot can explain.
Do we blame Bill Gates or do we blame the guy who wrote the worm?
I wont laugh about it, I'd be pissed.
First I'd want Bill Gates to personally be sued.
Second I'd want our gov to stop using Windows, third I'd want all important computers to stop using Windows and fourth I'd want our government to pay for ads to advertise alternatives to Windows.
The FBI is said to be investigating to see if the cause of this blackout was MSBlaster.
I'm hoping a network as important as this would not be running windows. If it is running Windows, I hope Bill Gates gets sued for billions over this.
Or we need to figure out some way to decentralize our source of power, we depend on Canada for almost all our electricity, and this isnt good.
Whats a solution?