This is a perfect and I mean absolutely PERFECT example, of Americans losing jobs to some cheaper guys in india.
Indian programmers will ALWAYS be cheaper and eventually companies when they get to a certain size will not hire Americans anymore.
Why should they? If they can just get people from the third world.
SLashdot programmers and technicians, take a stand and refuse to answer this question, we DONT want them to know how to manage a global programming team, I mean unless you are the manager why should you help them fire you?
Its about making fans pay for access to new music. why shouldnt a musician be able to take a box to their concert and like a vending machine people download mp3s into their portible players from these boxes.
Most kids under 14 even when supervised dont take the net seriously
you cant allow children to play on the net. get them a video game console and let them play online games but the way i see it, a kid shouldnt be on the net before they are ready. If you can handle it at 14 fine, I dont think supervision teaches them anything it just allows them to play online while you watch, the goal is to let them go online without supervision, or not at all. If they need to use the net they should know the rules. Just like you cant teach someone to read before they can speak, you cant teach someone to be mature and intelligent online until they can do it offline.
I keep telling you people. If you censor and shelter your children, they NEVER learn!
You want to do the opposite, you want to expose them to the real world, but in a pace which you know they can handle.
You dont censor the net from them, you just dont get the net until they are old enough to use it without being censored. You tell them what to watch for and why, you tell them the net is not a game, a toy, or entertainment, but its real life.
You treat the net seriously, dont sit it next to the VCR and TV in the living room, you put it in the computer room with the books and materials.
You teach them to be serious on the net, and guide them, and after you guide them for about a year or so, you release them to the net and let them learn on their own.
Its the only way.
A bird cant learn to fly without being pushed out of the next, you have to do the same with your kids, you have to push them into the real world at some point, but you do it at a pace they cant accept.
Theres lots of transvestites and transexuals who do this too.
Face it, if a person wants to be what they arent, they can do it offlinne and online. As technology gets better,it will just get easier and easier to do it offline until we get to the point where any guy can become a girl and any girl can become a guy, and then it will be exactly like the internet.
Kids and Adults talk to each other ALL the time offline. The chance of meeting a bad person offline is just as high as online, the diffrence is bad people online if you are intelligent enough, you can avoid, erase, and never see again.
Bad people offline can kill you, track you down, etc alot easier and you cant really stop them.
Should we make it illegal for kids to talk to adults? please!
What we should do is just let whatever happens happen.
Its the parents job to keep their kids safe and teach them to survive.
If the kid is stupid and gets killed by someone online, they would have gotten killed offline eventually too because theres some things you just dont do, and the only way to learn this is from experience.
You cannot make people wise by laws. or by force.
Its kinda like saying violent movies are bad, no its not bad, its just bad for the more ignorant kids amoung us.
E. It depends on if the kid has responsible parents.
I dont think kids under 14 should be online. Why? Because most kids at that age could not understand the more adult side of the internet, now i'm sure theres some 14 year olds who can prove me wrong here, but speaking of the majority.
As far as intelligence goes, a kid whos not intelligent, will do stupid things. If your kid isnt intelligent and does stupid things offline they will do it online.
If your kid doesnt think for themselves, only listens to other people, keep a good eye on them when they are online.
Be a responsible parent, if you think your kid cant handle the net, watch them, and guide them through the net just like you guide them through the offline world.
IF you think your kid can handle it, give your kid some privacy, responsibility, etc and go from there.
The government shouldnt talk about this, this is a job for parents, and individual families.
You cannot say "CHAT IS BAD FOR ALL KIDS" you can say chat is bad for YOUR kid.
The government shouldnt tell parents how to raise their kids. If kids get in trouble from online, the blame should go to the parent. So if your kid hacks nasa, you should go to jail.
And Because I went there to see what they are like, I'm sure most of those Nazis went to see what everyone else is like, just because they were curious.
I learned about hateful people. The really truely hateful people just hate because they live to hate. Its not a race thing to them its a hate thing.
They enjoy hating, and they will hate all their life, if all the miniories were killed, they'd hate their own people, until every human was destroyed.
You see, hate is evolutionary suicide, because all humans are the same species, when you hate on humans, you are actually hating on yourself, and when you want to kill all jews, you want to kill yourself subconciously.
You cant save them all but the ones who can be saved, will most likely be saved by the net. The ones who dont actually hate other races, but who just dont understand them, will be saved.
You dont know which one of us on slashdot is a jew, hell I could be a jew, or you could be, or anyone here.
Because I dont know "WHAT" you are, i cannot judge you in an ignorant fashion. ALL i know is, you are human.
IF you are on the net long enough and make enough friends online, try asking them what they are at some point and be surprised when one of them is a jew, you could have hated jews all your life and find out one of your friends online is a jew and it all could change.
People who have never had positive experiences with jews learn to hate jews, I know some online and they arent bad people, I know some koreans too, along with south americans, asians, australians,
Its experience with all of these people, which lead me to the conslusion that all people are the same inside and diffrent outside.
The internet gives you a bridge to the religious, racial, and cultural gaps, the offline world does not.
An ignorant person hates the culture, the religion, or the race, but never the person.
A gang member from south central LA can buy a computer, get addicted, cease their gang activities, and eventually after a few years, make friends with a korean person on the internet.
Stuff like this happens on the internet alot easier than it would happen IRL. Understanding can only happen when you talk to people of diffrent races and cultures, On the net I've spoken to people of every race, I know all people are the same on the inside even if they are diffrent on the outside.
This isnt something you can teach an ignorant person in real life, they have to go online and learn this.
The jews believe they are the choosen people and didnt respect the Palestinians first.
This war between these two groups is not one sided, Just because Palestinians are terrorists doesnt mean they dont have REASON to do so, its not like they have an army so what else can they do really.
If you looked at the news, the latest news say that isreal doesnt want to make peace just like the palestinians dont.
People will follow the Koran, but when you take their land and attempt to push them out of the middle east because you refuse to respect them, they dont have much choice but to fight you or be pushed into the desert somewhere.
Someone who lives in say Idaho whos grew up around the KKK and so on whos never really spoken to anyone diffrent, could get on the net and see the REAL world for the first time and begin thinking for themselves.
or of course, they can go to their KKK websites. But chances are they'll go to an AOL chatroom and meet diffrent people. Thats the first step to increasing tolerance.
You cant teach people to tolerate other races if they only know what the KKK grand dragon tells them.
(Black people are mud people. Jews are the devil)
Unless they meet people for themselves and decide. They will never know.
the CPUs arent even being used, 1-2ghz cpus can handle REAL physics. You can download a real physics sim and see for yourself, even a 500mhz cpu can handle it. They just dont want to code it because its much harder.
Lets look at what they were doing. Ill show you examples!
Codeweavers is not a team player. They were the ones who pulled out of their partnership with Lindows.
When Transgaming started making WineX, CodeWeavers got on them to release the code, they also got on Lindows to release the code. However both of these commpanies do not have a business plan where the code can be released immediately, during this time Wine was under a license which allowed this.
CodeWeavers got mad that they couldnt use the WineX and Lindows code to sell their products, but WineX and Lindows could use theirs.
Their solution, was to get the license changed. Instead of working WITH transgaming and lindows, from the start codeweavers has seen these two companies as enemies.
If Wine is what you care about, why does it matter if other companies use your wine code? its better for Wine, its just not good for your business.
So you see, this was a strategic business attack from code weavers, forking Wine allows them to now get all the code produced by Transgaming and Lindows to add to their products.
BUT YOU DONT see Transgaming or Lindows whining and complaining about this because these companies unless CodeWeavers have an actual business plan!
Look, if we are to be successful as open source, our businesses should work together. Lindows and Transgaming are doing this, try both TRIED to work with Codeweavers who refused and caused both companies to have to spend more on development attacking both of their businesses.
I predict code weavers will be the first to go out of business because they dont work with the team.
WineX DOES contribute back. They contribute back after YOU contribute to them by subscribing.
Do you honestly think development is free? Unlike Codeweavers, Transgaming doesnt have unlimited cash to fund development.
Transgaming develops shouldnt be forced to release all their code until theres enough subscribers to pay for development of new code. IF you want to force them to release all their code, what you are doing is putting them out of business.
CodeWeavers is doing this to kill the competition. They also are trying to get rid of Lindows. This is obvious from anyone on the outside.
Swapping code is what should be done, I dont think transgaming has complained about not being able to use LGPL code, they complain that CodeWeavers switched the license in an attempt to put them out of business.
THAT is believeable.
CodeWeavers is on the side of CodeWeavers, Lindows and Transgaming care more about Wine.
If CodeWeavers cared about Wine they would do whats best for the Wine users, and thats to have as much code completed as possible under ANY license. I support the GPL, but I want games to work in Wine, and I am subscribed to transgaming, why ruin Transgaming?! They have done ALOT!!!
Codeweavers has done alot, but why should I be forced to pick sides? They should be working together.
I want to see statistics they've gotten from simulations, and these sims better use REAL LIFE physics not game physics.
I want to know how they designed the craft, if its aerodynamic, how much heat it can handle, the weight, etc.
Unless you know all of that, you dont even know if the thing will work, and you still have to calculate the physics exactly, and the math, as well as the timing.
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So why should we answer this guys question, Its just helping him fire us!! Let him go to indias version of slashdot and ask THEM!
I'm sorry but I'm not stupid enough to help my boss figure out how to replace me.
This is why I'm so against globalism, this kinda thing will happen all the time as globalism becomes standard.
This is a perfect and I mean absolutely PERFECT example, of Americans losing jobs to some cheaper guys in india.
Indian programmers will ALWAYS be cheaper and eventually companies when they get to a certain size will not hire Americans anymore.
Why should they? If they can just get people from the third world.
SLashdot programmers and technicians, take a stand and refuse to answer this question, we DONT want them to know how to manage a global programming team, I mean unless you are the manager why should you help them fire you?
$1 a song? how about 25 cents a song, maybe 5 bucks a cd
Its about making fans pay for access to new music. why shouldnt a musician be able to take a box to their concert and like a vending machine people download mp3s into their portible players from these boxes.
Most kids under 14 even when supervised dont take the net seriously
you cant allow children to play on the net. get them a video game console and let them play online games but the way i see it, a kid shouldnt be on the net before they are ready. If you can handle it at 14 fine, I dont think supervision teaches them anything it just allows them to play online while you watch, the goal is to let them go online without supervision, or not at all. If they need to use the net they should know the rules.
Just like you cant teach someone to read before they can speak, you cant teach someone to be mature and intelligent online until they can do it offline.
Censorship is NOT the answer!
You should teach the child to judge right and wrong, not hide the world from the child.
The child wont be a child forever, do your job as a parent and teach them, the sooner they learn right from wrong the better they'll be later on.
your job as a parent is to teach them to judge good from bad, not be overlord
I keep telling you people.
If you censor and shelter your children, they NEVER learn!
You want to do the opposite, you want to expose them to the real world, but in a pace which you know they can handle.
You dont censor the net from them, you just dont get the net until they are old enough to use it without being censored. You tell them what to watch for and why, you tell them the net is not a game, a toy, or entertainment, but its real life.
You treat the net seriously, dont sit it next to the VCR and TV in the living room, you put it in the computer room with the books and materials.
You teach them to be serious on the net, and guide them, and after you guide them for about a year or so, you release them to the net and let them learn on their own.
Its the only way.
A bird cant learn to fly without being pushed out of the next, you have to do the same with your kids, you have to push them into the real world at some point, but you do it at a pace they cant accept.
This happens offline too.
Theres lots of transvestites and transexuals who do this too.
Face it, if a person wants to be what they arent, they can do it offlinne and online. As technology gets better,it will just get easier and easier to do it offline until we get to the point where any guy can become a girl and any girl can become a guy, and then it will be exactly like the internet.
Its not you or the governments job to do this.
Kids and Adults talk to each other ALL the time offline. The chance of meeting a bad person offline is just as high as online, the diffrence is bad people online if you are intelligent enough, you can avoid, erase, and never see again.
Bad people offline can kill you, track you down, etc alot easier and you cant really stop them.
Should we make it illegal for kids to talk to adults? please!
What we should do is just let whatever happens happen.
Its the parents job to keep their kids safe and teach them to survive.
If the kid is stupid and gets killed by someone online, they would have gotten killed offline eventually too because theres some things you just dont do, and the only way to learn this is from experience.
You cannot make people wise by laws. or by force.
Its kinda like saying violent movies are bad, no its not bad, its just bad for the more ignorant kids amoung us.
Not everyone is ignorant!
There are alot of factors.
A. It depends on the maturity of the kid.
B. It depends on the intelligence of the kid.
C. It depends on the age of the kid.
D. It depends on how easily the is is influenced.
E. It depends on if the kid has responsible parents.
I dont think kids under 14 should be online.
Why? Because most kids at that age could not understand the more adult side of the internet, now i'm sure theres some 14 year olds who can prove me wrong here, but speaking of the majority.
As far as intelligence goes, a kid whos not intelligent, will do stupid things. If your kid isnt intelligent and does stupid things offline they will do it online.
If your kid doesnt think for themselves, only listens to other people, keep a good eye on them when they are online.
Be a responsible parent, if you think your kid cant handle the net, watch them, and guide them through the net just like you guide them through the offline world.
IF you think your kid can handle it, give your kid some privacy, responsibility, etc and go from there.
The government shouldnt talk about this, this is a job for parents, and individual families.
You cannot say "CHAT IS BAD FOR ALL KIDS"
you can say chat is bad for YOUR kid.
The government shouldnt tell parents how to raise their kids. If kids get in trouble from online, the blame should go to the parent.
So if your kid hacks nasa, you should go to jail.
Doesnt the US constitution even say to go to your local militias to arm yourselves?
I never said every single one of them, i said their culture is not open, they dont like to share it or intergrate
And Because I went there to see what they are like, I'm sure most of those Nazis went to see what everyone else is like, just because they were curious.
I learned about hateful people. The really truely hateful people just hate because they live to hate. Its not a race thing to them its a hate thing.
They enjoy hating, and they will hate all their life, if all the miniories were killed, they'd hate their own people, until every human was destroyed.
You see, hate is evolutionary suicide, because all humans are the same species, when you hate on humans, you are actually hating on yourself, and when you want to kill all jews, you want to kill yourself subconciously.
You cant save them all but the ones who can be saved, will most likely be saved by the net.
The ones who dont actually hate other races, but who just dont understand them, will be saved.
They dont just hate jews, they are racist toward ALL non asian races.
They are NOT a good example, they also avoid the internet so not to try to understand diffrent cultures.
You dont know which one of us on slashdot is a jew, hell I could be a jew, or you could be, or anyone here.
Because I dont know "WHAT" you are, i cannot judge you in an ignorant fashion. ALL i know is, you are human.
IF you are on the net long enough and make enough friends online, try asking them what they are at some point and be surprised when one of them is a jew, you could have hated jews all your life and find out one of your friends online is a jew and it all could change.
People who have never had positive experiences with jews learn to hate jews, I know some online and they arent bad people, I know some koreans too, along with south americans, asians, australians,
Its experience with all of these people, which lead me to the conslusion that all people are the same inside and diffrent outside.
The internet gives you a bridge to the religious, racial, and cultural gaps, the offline world does not.
An ignorant person hates the culture, the religion, or the race, but never the person.
A gang member from south central LA can buy a computer, get addicted, cease their gang activities, and eventually after a few years, make friends with a korean person on the internet.
Stuff like this happens on the internet alot easier than it would happen IRL. Understanding can only happen when you talk to people of diffrent races and cultures, On the net I've spoken to people of every race, I know all people are the same on the inside even if they are diffrent on the outside.
This isnt something you can teach an ignorant person in real life, they have to go online and learn this.
The jews believe they are the choosen people and didnt respect the Palestinians first.
This war between these two groups is not one sided, Just because Palestinians are terrorists doesnt mean they dont have REASON to do so, its not like they have an army so what else can they do really.
If you looked at the news, the latest news say that isreal doesnt want to make peace just like the palestinians dont.
People will follow the Koran, but when you take their land and attempt to push them out of the middle east because you refuse to respect them, they dont have much choice but to fight you or be pushed into the desert somewhere.
Someone who lives in say Idaho whos grew up around the KKK and so on whos never really spoken to anyone diffrent, could get on the net and see the REAL world for the first time and begin thinking for themselves.
or of course, they can go to their KKK websites.
But chances are they'll go to an AOL chatroom and meet diffrent people. Thats the first step to increasing tolerance.
You cant teach people to tolerate other races if they only know what the KKK grand dragon tells them.
(Black people are mud people. Jews are the devil)
Unless they meet people for themselves and decide. They will never know.
whats the goal on wine? to let US have windows programs run in linux
BS
the CPUs arent even being used, 1-2ghz cpus can handle REAL physics. You can download a real physics sim and see for yourself, even a 500mhz cpu can handle it. They just dont want to code it because its much harder.
Lets look at what they were doing. Ill show you examples!
Codeweavers is not a team player. They were the ones who pulled out of their partnership with Lindows.
When Transgaming started making WineX, CodeWeavers got on them to release the code, they also got on Lindows to release the code. However both of these commpanies do not have a business plan where the code can be released immediately, during this time Wine was under a license which allowed this.
CodeWeavers got mad that they couldnt use the WineX and Lindows code to sell their products, but WineX and Lindows could use theirs.
Their solution, was to get the license changed. Instead of working WITH transgaming and lindows, from the start codeweavers has seen these two companies as enemies.
If Wine is what you care about, why does it matter if other companies use your wine code? its better for Wine, its just not good for your business.
So you see, this was a strategic business attack from code weavers, forking Wine allows them to now get all the code produced by Transgaming and Lindows to add to their products.
BUT YOU DONT see Transgaming or Lindows whining and complaining about this because these companies unless CodeWeavers have an actual business plan!
Look, if we are to be successful as open source, our businesses should work together. Lindows and Transgaming are doing this, try both TRIED to work with Codeweavers who refused and caused both companies to have to spend more on development attacking both of their businesses.
I predict code weavers will be the first to go out of business because they dont work with the team.
WineX DOES contribute back. They contribute back after YOU contribute to them by subscribing.
Do you honestly think development is free? Unlike Codeweavers, Transgaming doesnt have unlimited cash to fund development.
Transgaming develops shouldnt be forced to release all their code until theres enough subscribers to pay for development of new code. IF you want to force them to release all their code, what you are doing is putting them out of business.
CodeWeavers is doing this to kill the competition. They also are trying to get rid of Lindows. This is obvious from anyone on the outside.
Swapping code is what should be done, I dont think transgaming has complained about not being able to use LGPL code, they complain that CodeWeavers switched the license in an attempt to put them out of business.
THAT is believeable.
CodeWeavers is on the side of CodeWeavers, Lindows and Transgaming care more about Wine.
If CodeWeavers cared about Wine they would do whats best for the Wine users, and thats to have as much code completed as possible under ANY license. I support the GPL, but I want games to work in Wine, and I am subscribed to transgaming, why ruin Transgaming?! They have done ALOT!!!
Codeweavers has done alot, but why should I be forced to pick sides? They should be working together.
Lindows is new in this, but give them a chance.
The License Change was a strategic attack.
John Carmack doesnt have any degree in this area.
A degree is proof of knowledge.
Wheres the simulations?
I want to see statistics they've gotten from simulations, and these sims better use REAL LIFE physics not game physics.
I want to know how they designed the craft, if its aerodynamic, how much heat it can handle, the weight, etc.
Unless you know all of that, you dont even know if the thing will work, and you still have to calculate the physics exactly, and the math, as well as the timing.
This is where i think carmack might screw up.