Yea, nobody remembers that they fire bombed London using those Zeppelin things during WW1 and killed a bunch of people, at least on this side of the pond. Londoners tend to remember that and what happened to them during WW2. All we have is the B&W news reel footage of the incident in Lakehurst NJ and a simple little sign that shows where it took place because not that many Americans died.
Nobody ever said Government was smart and foreword thinking about what it does. In fact, most thinking people understand that it's quite the opposite, government is usually stupid, slow, costly and inefficient, a set of traist that gets worse as government gets bigger.
Common in the universe perhaps.. But not so much on the surface where we generally work out our existence...
No worries though.. There are generally other workable replacements to be had for most of He's uses. Just ask Zeppelin about that... Don't worry about that little mishap in Lakehurst...
Look, it's clear you don't understand the law about handling classified information. Plus, just in case you care, she lied to you about it (not that lying when not under oath is criminal) and that can be proven just from her public statements made on this subject over time. You don't care? First it was "nothing classified" then it was "nothing marked classified" when it was shown her first statement was false. Then it became "nothing previously classified" (as in obtained from classified documents) which was as we now know false too. She knowingly broke the law here, that much is clear if you have any clue about how classified information is supposed to be handled. Clinton had the training, she signed the Nondisclosure agreements, she is liable for breaking them.
Using the fact that she's not been charged as proof that she did nothing wrong is a red herring. Not all criminals are charged just as much as not all charged are criminals. She IS under criminal investigation for this and I'm telling you that Obama's DOJ won't charge her even if the FBI recommends it, so claiming the lack of charges means she didn't do it is laughable. Not to mention that I clearly don't believe she will be charged as long as Obama is in office, regardless of what the FBI investigation comes up with on her. This is politics and how this DC game is played, and has been played since the other Clinton actually held office (if not before)...
Agreed, no problem with double jeopardy.. Impeachment at best just removes the person from federal office, it is not a criminal trial or conviction which is a separate issue. Being impeached and convicted does NOT preclude a subsequent criminal trial.
Still, a *properly* written C++ program will run circles around the same Java program. It will consume less resources and run faster.
What's added to the speed of Java over the last decade? Mostly, it has come by re-coding parts of what used to be in Java using other languages and making it part of the JRE, creating more parallel threads and leveraging the improved multi-core, multiple thread execution of today's hardware. Java still consumes more CPU and memory resources, it is just easier to spread it out over todays hardware.
But this discussion is about PERFORMANCE using the same resources, where C++ wins, hands down. Java uses more hardware resources, always has, always will. (Just like C generally won over C++ when well implemented, and why Assembly wins over C, the facts are that (when properly implemented) coding closer to the actual hardware will give you better performance on the same resources. This is obviously true, and won't change.
You do realize how partisan you are right? I'm more than willing to admit to my bias (and if you read my post you will see that) but I try to be as balanced as possible. Facts are stubborn things and Hillary CLEARLY broke the law and lied about it multiple times with this E-mail thing, given she sent and received previously classified information in those pesky E-mails flying over her personal server while she was the head of the State Department.
I know Hillary and the partisans want to spin this into a which hunt by the Republicans and nothing more. Yes, it IS a witch hunt, but in this case there actually is fire to go along with all the smoke, so Hillary really does have a legal issue because she mishandled classified information, with full knowledge of what she was doing was illegal. She's not stupid, she wasn't unaware of the rules, she just didn't care at the time. Now she wants you to believe she IS stupid about all this.. "You mean wipe it with a cloth?" kind of stupid. Don't fall for it.
But as partisan as I am, I'm fully aware of the political reality. She won't be charged as long as Obama is in office. Obama won't allow it as it puts him in a tough spot having to answer the 'Should I pardon her" question which only does him harm either way he answers.
1. The tagline on the post I was responding too WAS about Hillary so my response was on topic as much as the original post.
2. Hillary has not yet held the office of president and is but the presumptive nominee of the democratic party, so she is just a private citizen like you and me and not exempt from criminal prosecution. Where I seriously doubt she will be charged, it's still possible she could.
AND, one last thing, a president is only really exempted from criminal prosecution while actually IN office. Congress may impeach and remove a president from office who THEN can be charged, tried and convicted for their crimes while in office. Of course I seriously doubt anybody would bother with the criminal charges once they got removed from office unless they where especially egregious in nature, such as treason, murder or something similar.
Yes I know.. Java is a prime example of that.. Not that it is a bad language, but that byte-code interpreted thing is kind of a performance killer over the likes of C/C++ (And I'm only talking about performance here youngsters...)
Seriously? This was done in Java Script? No wonder it took so long. Just sayin'.
I have a nagging feeling that where parts of this where written in Java Script (as in the user interface stuff that displays this shiny new data) the actual image processing to find and edit out the clouds was written in something else.... I don't work for Google so it's just a hunch...
I agree that ES won't be pardoned.. By this administration or the next...
Now granting a pardon for Hillary? I'm pretty sure he won't do that because it's a no win situation for him.
In order for a pardon to be a net gain for anybody here, Hillary will have to be charged. Where I believe she's committed a number of felonies with this E-mail thing, she's NOT getting charged as long as Obama is in the White House, no way no how. It's technically possible she gets charged, but that only puts Obama in a tough spot. He'd have to pardon her and further tarnish his image and make it harder for her to be elected. She won't be charged.
Obama could preemptively pardon Hillary (even though she's not been charged), but that has no upside for him or her either. Where this would put the issue legally behind her, both Hillary and Obama would suffer the same political fall out, making her election harder for the party.
The wild card here is what happens AFTER the election and that depends on who wins... If Trump wins, I can see Obama letting Hillary get charged and then sitting on his hands. Seems to be his style to let her blow in the breeze at that point, but Trump's election is hardly assured. If Hillary wins, then gets charged, things would get interesting indeed because I'm still not sure Obama would pardon her, and if she took office with charges pending you can bet the house would impeach her before the end of January 2017 and she'd be out of office within months. In fact, she'd be impeached even with the pardon....
What amazes me is that we are at this point in this country.... How far have we fallen... Just the current crop of presumptive nominees should cause the thinking person pause...
I don't think the problem with law enforcement is lack of understanding or technical ability, but more of a lack of interest in "solving" such crimes because of the sheer amount of cost it would involve.
Think about it... Your local police don't care that you are getting forced to pay $50 to get your files back, well they don't care *enough* to bother doing anything more than possibly making an official report (if that). The local police don't have the resources or time to follow up and the criminal is unlikely to be within their jurisdiction anyway. The state police are too busy solving bigger crimes to bother with such a 2 bit $50 extortion crime even though it's slightly more likely the criminal was within their jurisdiction. The Federal police (FBI) REALLY doesn't care about your $50 ransom payment, they have so much bigger fish to fry that they won't likely bother to even take a report from you, unless it happens to be aligned with some investigation already in progress, even then what can they do if the criminals are overseas? Nothing.
So it's not lack of ability, it's lack of motivation. Literally, those who could do something are too busy to care and those who care can't do anything.
I didn't specify what kind of "hard work" well enough I guess. Can we say working hard in a smart way? I.E. Working hard and getting the most I can for my efforts in the most moral and ethical way I can. So, if you want to pay me the most when I work hard for you, let's talk...
It would cost more in electricity to run the block chains on a billion BitCoins that the $100 ransom.. Only the miners would win, if there where any miners out there at that point.
Perhaps, but BitCoin has driven such activity to a whole new level of ease for the bad guys. Now you can collect payment from your mark and collect without having to exchange a briefcase of paper, diamonds, bullion or some other physical material or go though the risk of accepting a credit card payment or wire transfer.
It's not just the products... It's the customer service after the sale too... (Or it used to be, I've not used them in years after a really bad experience with a product, followed by a bad customer service experience trying to fix the product, followed by me swearing, and then swearing never to use HP again.)
Maybe I'm not being fair with HP and they've turned over a new leaf, but they really messed up enough I'm not ready to tempt fate and try their stuff and support to see.
So you are saying as long as the FBI does not use anything they got in hacking, they can hack away freely? I very much doubt that.
The problem here is that the FBI hackers are committing criminal acts abroad. Of course, they will be difficult to identify, but in theory they could be extradited and jailed in the countries where people were hacked by them. Of course, that is also not going to happen either, but it sets a tone and not a good one.
If the FBI broke the law in another country, that's up to the other country's law enforcement folks to figure out what they want to do about it. Given the FBI is unlikely to even attempt a prosecution of a foreign target (Even if they are a US Citizen) I seriously doubt they will do anything if they knew about it. What can they do? Try the FBI in criminal court? Assess civil fines? How are you going to arrest an FBI agent in the USA and who's going to collect the fines and how are they going to do it?
Remember, I'm just saying "it doesn't matter" what the FBI to foreign computers. They won't use the evidence for anything because they cannot do anything about crimes outside their jurisdiction. It's like a Texas Highway Patrolman cannot pull you over for speeding in Kansas. He can fire up that Radar gun and clock you doing 85 MPH but he cannot pull you over and write a valid ticket.
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There are generally other workable replacements to be had for most of He's uses. Just ask Zeppelin about that.
We can't just replace He with Pb, idiot.
Perhaps not, but it seems we can replace meaningful dialog with stuff that's not all day long on Shashdot. LOL...
Yea, nobody remembers that they fire bombed London using those Zeppelin things during WW1 and killed a bunch of people, at least on this side of the pond. Londoners tend to remember that and what happened to them during WW2. All we have is the B&W news reel footage of the incident in Lakehurst NJ and a simple little sign that shows where it took place because not that many Americans died.
Nobody ever said Government was smart and foreword thinking about what it does. In fact, most thinking people understand that it's quite the opposite, government is usually stupid, slow, costly and inefficient, a set of traist that gets worse as government gets bigger.
Common in the universe perhaps.. But not so much on the surface where we generally work out our existence...
No worries though.. There are generally other workable replacements to be had for most of He's uses. Just ask Zeppelin about that... Don't worry about that little mishap in Lakehurst...
Comon man.. This is the media err.. Slashdot we are talking about... The headlines sell you know...
Contrary to popular belief, the government doesnt get to control every f----g thing.
No, but that doesn't mean it won't try too..
Look, it's clear you don't understand the law about handling classified information. Plus, just in case you care, she lied to you about it (not that lying when not under oath is criminal) and that can be proven just from her public statements made on this subject over time. You don't care? First it was "nothing classified" then it was "nothing marked classified" when it was shown her first statement was false. Then it became "nothing previously classified" (as in obtained from classified documents) which was as we now know false too. She knowingly broke the law here, that much is clear if you have any clue about how classified information is supposed to be handled. Clinton had the training, she signed the Nondisclosure agreements, she is liable for breaking them.
Using the fact that she's not been charged as proof that she did nothing wrong is a red herring. Not all criminals are charged just as much as not all charged are criminals. She IS under criminal investigation for this and I'm telling you that Obama's DOJ won't charge her even if the FBI recommends it, so claiming the lack of charges means she didn't do it is laughable. Not to mention that I clearly don't believe she will be charged as long as Obama is in office, regardless of what the FBI investigation comes up with on her. This is politics and how this DC game is played, and has been played since the other Clinton actually held office (if not before)...
Agreed, no problem with double jeopardy.. Impeachment at best just removes the person from federal office, it is not a criminal trial or conviction which is a separate issue. Being impeached and convicted does NOT preclude a subsequent criminal trial.
Still, a *properly* written C++ program will run circles around the same Java program. It will consume less resources and run faster.
What's added to the speed of Java over the last decade? Mostly, it has come by re-coding parts of what used to be in Java using other languages and making it part of the JRE, creating more parallel threads and leveraging the improved multi-core, multiple thread execution of today's hardware. Java still consumes more CPU and memory resources, it is just easier to spread it out over todays hardware.
But this discussion is about PERFORMANCE using the same resources, where C++ wins, hands down. Java uses more hardware resources, always has, always will. (Just like C generally won over C++ when well implemented, and why Assembly wins over C, the facts are that (when properly implemented) coding closer to the actual hardware will give you better performance on the same resources. This is obviously true, and won't change.
You do realize how partisan you are right? I'm more than willing to admit to my bias (and if you read my post you will see that) but I try to be as balanced as possible. Facts are stubborn things and Hillary CLEARLY broke the law and lied about it multiple times with this E-mail thing, given she sent and received previously classified information in those pesky E-mails flying over her personal server while she was the head of the State Department.
I know Hillary and the partisans want to spin this into a which hunt by the Republicans and nothing more. Yes, it IS a witch hunt, but in this case there actually is fire to go along with all the smoke, so Hillary really does have a legal issue because she mishandled classified information, with full knowledge of what she was doing was illegal. She's not stupid, she wasn't unaware of the rules, she just didn't care at the time. Now she wants you to believe she IS stupid about all this.. "You mean wipe it with a cloth?" kind of stupid. Don't fall for it.
But as partisan as I am, I'm fully aware of the political reality. She won't be charged as long as Obama is in office. Obama won't allow it as it puts him in a tough spot having to answer the 'Should I pardon her" question which only does him harm either way he answers.
Two points;
1. The tagline on the post I was responding too WAS about Hillary so my response was on topic as much as the original post.
2. Hillary has not yet held the office of president and is but the presumptive nominee of the democratic party, so she is just a private citizen like you and me and not exempt from criminal prosecution. Where I seriously doubt she will be charged, it's still possible she could.
AND, one last thing, a president is only really exempted from criminal prosecution while actually IN office. Congress may impeach and remove a president from office who THEN can be charged, tried and convicted for their crimes while in office. Of course I seriously doubt anybody would bother with the criminal charges once they got removed from office unless they where especially egregious in nature, such as treason, murder or something similar.
Yes I know.. Java is a prime example of that.. Not that it is a bad language, but that byte-code interpreted thing is kind of a performance killer over the likes of C/C++ (And I'm only talking about performance here youngsters...)
Seriously? This was done in Java Script? No wonder it took so long. Just sayin'.
I have a nagging feeling that where parts of this where written in Java Script (as in the user interface stuff that displays this shiny new data) the actual image processing to find and edit out the clouds was written in something else.... I don't work for Google so it's just a hunch...
Should and will are two different things in this case...
There is zero reason for Obama to pardon either and a whole bunch of reasons not too.. Neither will get pardoned..
Now, Rob Emanuel, he's more likely to get a pardon for his actions as Mayor of Chicago than these two, and what does he need a pardon for?
I agree that ES won't be pardoned.. By this administration or the next...
Now granting a pardon for Hillary? I'm pretty sure he won't do that because it's a no win situation for him.
In order for a pardon to be a net gain for anybody here, Hillary will have to be charged. Where I believe she's committed a number of felonies with this E-mail thing, she's NOT getting charged as long as Obama is in the White House, no way no how. It's technically possible she gets charged, but that only puts Obama in a tough spot. He'd have to pardon her and further tarnish his image and make it harder for her to be elected. She won't be charged.
Obama could preemptively pardon Hillary (even though she's not been charged), but that has no upside for him or her either. Where this would put the issue legally behind her, both Hillary and Obama would suffer the same political fall out, making her election harder for the party.
The wild card here is what happens AFTER the election and that depends on who wins... If Trump wins, I can see Obama letting Hillary get charged and then sitting on his hands. Seems to be his style to let her blow in the breeze at that point, but Trump's election is hardly assured. If Hillary wins, then gets charged, things would get interesting indeed because I'm still not sure Obama would pardon her, and if she took office with charges pending you can bet the house would impeach her before the end of January 2017 and she'd be out of office within months. In fact, she'd be impeached even with the pardon....
What amazes me is that we are at this point in this country.... How far have we fallen... Just the current crop of presumptive nominees should cause the thinking person pause...
I don't think the problem with law enforcement is lack of understanding or technical ability, but more of a lack of interest in "solving" such crimes because of the sheer amount of cost it would involve.
Think about it... Your local police don't care that you are getting forced to pay $50 to get your files back, well they don't care *enough* to bother doing anything more than possibly making an official report (if that). The local police don't have the resources or time to follow up and the criminal is unlikely to be within their jurisdiction anyway. The state police are too busy solving bigger crimes to bother with such a 2 bit $50 extortion crime even though it's slightly more likely the criminal was within their jurisdiction. The Federal police (FBI) REALLY doesn't care about your $50 ransom payment, they have so much bigger fish to fry that they won't likely bother to even take a report from you, unless it happens to be aligned with some investigation already in progress, even then what can they do if the criminals are overseas? Nothing.
So it's not lack of ability, it's lack of motivation. Literally, those who could do something are too busy to care and those who care can't do anything.
I didn't specify what kind of "hard work" well enough I guess. Can we say working hard in a smart way? I.E. Working hard and getting the most I can for my efforts in the most moral and ethical way I can. So, if you want to pay me the most when I work hard for you, let's talk...
Identity theft is much more lucrative and less risky I hear...
Personally, I prefer "Hard work" as a means of supporting myself and family, but hey, blame the way I was raised.
Actually there is a vanishingly small slice of folks who make backups and actually test them occasionally.... I know, I'm one of them...
Perl? ;-)
Hey, don't bash all that old Unix stuff (pun indented).. It worked (actually still does..)
It would cost more in electricity to run the block chains on a billion BitCoins that the $100 ransom.. Only the miners would win, if there where any miners out there at that point.
Perhaps, but BitCoin has driven such activity to a whole new level of ease for the bad guys. Now you can collect payment from your mark and collect without having to exchange a briefcase of paper, diamonds, bullion or some other physical material or go though the risk of accepting a credit card payment or wire transfer.
It's not just the products... It's the customer service after the sale too... (Or it used to be, I've not used them in years after a really bad experience with a product, followed by a bad customer service experience trying to fix the product, followed by me swearing, and then swearing never to use HP again.)
Maybe I'm not being fair with HP and they've turned over a new leaf, but they really messed up enough I'm not ready to tempt fate and try their stuff and support to see.
So you are saying as long as the FBI does not use anything they got in hacking, they can hack away freely? I very much doubt that.
The problem here is that the FBI hackers are committing criminal acts abroad. Of course, they will be difficult to identify, but in theory they could be extradited and jailed in the countries where people were hacked by them. Of course, that is also not going to happen either, but it sets a tone and not a good one.
If the FBI broke the law in another country, that's up to the other country's law enforcement folks to figure out what they want to do about it. Given the FBI is unlikely to even attempt a prosecution of a foreign target (Even if they are a US Citizen) I seriously doubt they will do anything if they knew about it. What can they do? Try the FBI in criminal court? Assess civil fines? How are you going to arrest an FBI agent in the USA and who's going to collect the fines and how are they going to do it?
Remember, I'm just saying "it doesn't matter" what the FBI to foreign computers. They won't use the evidence for anything because they cannot do anything about crimes outside their jurisdiction. It's like a Texas Highway Patrolman cannot pull you over for speeding in Kansas. He can fire up that Radar gun and clock you doing 85 MPH but he cannot pull you over and write a valid ticket.