Oh, so it's evil big corporations at fault now....
What's next, rich people are all bad because it's not fair they have more than you?
Stop pulling plays from the liberal progressive playbook and do a bit of "what if" thinking for yourself. What if we had personal responsibility instead of this cradle to grave utopia that is typical of the left's view of how it should be? Do you remember "Julia" from the last presidential campaign? Do you remember that "You didn't build that!" speech? Come on, look at our history and tell me that these are the things that made the USA what it is today. It's not, in fact, it was this kind of thing that brought the colonies to the point where they would risk it all, take on the largest, strongest, and best equipped military of the day to gain their freedom, to take control of their lives, and not depend on the king for protection and order. Read the Declaration of Independence, look at the reasons it was written and apply them to today.
This idea that we have to protect people from making bad choices, regardless of it's impact on freedom is a bad one. Not because it intends ill, but because it takes a little bit more of our freedom and personal responsibility and makes government all that more oppressive and controlling. Where does this end? What are the limits of government? There are none if we keep justifying such encroachments on freedom "Because it's best for you". NOTHING is safe if that's all it takes to justify such a regulation.
The issue they had was *delivery* to a wedding reception. Surely you see the difference here?....Delivery is seen as tacit approval
I've never thought my pizza delivery guy was tacitly approving on my lifestyle, color of my skin, or religion when he showed up....
But remember it was delivery to a wedding reception, a celebration of the happy couple's union... Do try to keep that in mind. Some might see delivering stuff and serving food at the reception as participation in the wedding, which implies approval for the proceedings (or at least it does for those objecting).
I'm not saying I agree with their refusal, I'm just saying that the tolerant thing to do is accept their refusal at face value and take your business elsewhere. Forcing them into serving you is being intolerant.
Isn't the *issue* you are trying to correct tolerance in the first place? Haven't you ever heard that "two wrongs don't make a right"? I say, be tolerant of them, walk away and leave them be. Demonstrate what true tolerance is and stop trying to force people into doing what YOU believe is right, walk away..
The tollboth guy? He STILL has his job? Now that's a broken system.
That's a question for the voters of New Jersey. The issue is he's had a large economic impact on his state. The bridge thing would just be part of that impact...
Rick Perry
Who? Does he really think he's as important to the economy as the CEO of Halliburton or a pile of other companies with headquarters in his state?
Rick Perry has some responsibility for keeping Texas on a path to economic success. Say he's responsible for a few percent of this during his time as governor, because it's obvious he had at least SOME impact personally. Given the size of the Texas economy, that means he's had vastly more impact than Linus, even if his actual impact was only a few percent of the whole.
No, but the freedom IS one. And every time we add to regulation, no matter how well intentioned, we erode freedom. Obviously some regulation is necessary, but these days, with the literal explosion of law and regulation being put forth by the Federal Government, one needs to start asking if we shouldn't start pushing personal responsibility and freedom over some new regulation.
I'll bring up the right's favorite whipping boy, the NYC attempt to regulated how big of a soft drink you could buy from 7-11. Was that necessary? I don't think so. How about some warning signs or a public service education campaign instead? They wouldn't have impeded civil liberties and the freedom we enjoy, yet they address the issue folks where concerned about... But no, No we have to try and force people though the law to do what's right and not drink that "Big Gulp".
Where is personal responsibility? If you take that away, you necessarily take freedom away too. IMHO when you take freedom away, you darn well better have a really good reason, and "it's bad for you, we think" just doesn't rise to that standard.
Again, they've had more impact on the world's economy than Linus Travois. Which is all I'm trying to claim.... In fact, ANYBODY who has earned significantly more money than Linus Travois in the last 20 years by definition has had more economic impact.
I guess the "pursuit of happiness" and "liberty" is trumped by your right to life.... Or so the liberal progressive mind thinks.
Murdering people makes me happy. It seems that you support me because you claim the pursuit of happiness trumps the right to life.
Oh so you are a leftist progressive women's rights supporter then?
Murder is depriving another of their right to life, so you cannot do tha... Oh wait, the abortion advocates won't like it phrased like that... Um... Forget it, I have no idea how the leftist progressive abortion supporter reconciles all this in the first place...
Oh I don't worry in the least, Linus seems to have more than enough people willing to put up with him and help... It's just a thought experiment to play the what if game.. What if Linus wasn't so abrasive? Who can say for sure things would be better or worse? I think the chances are that it might be a bit better in some ways, but who's to say that some less technically capable yahoo wouldn't have ended up being in charge because they where more aggressive....
There you go... Running to the Civil rights movement of the 60's.. That makes me sad because it tarnishes the *real* meaning of what happened and why the struggle was so important. You do remember MLK right? What was his goal, what was his stated purpose? A world where people are not judged by the color of their skin, but the content of the character. (to paraphrase). He was saying that we need to not judge based on externally obvious appearances, but we CAN judge based on character. Invoking this movement in this case cheapens what actually happened because they are not the same.
I ask you, what does a gay person LOOK like? Last time I checked, they really don't appear to be any different from you and I. There isn't some mark or rainbow colored skin we can see that says "I'm gay" when somebody walks into a business. So this isn't the same thing, it's something quite different than the lunch counter in Selma AL in the 1930's. You cannot come in here this is for Whites only, is NOT possible for gay people because they LOOK exactly the same.
Also, in the two cases I am discussing it wasn't that the business refused anybody service IN the business. Neither cared if you came and picked up your cake or pizza, they would serve you, no questions asked. The pizzeria even SAID that they would gladly serve pizza to ANYBODY who walked in and paid for it. The issue they had was *delivery* to a wedding reception. Surely you see the difference here? Delivery is seen as tacit approval, participation in what these people firmly believe is wrong, stupid as it is, they should be allowed the freedom to refuse such requests. As you point out, this situation is actually really rare as social attitudes are changing, so what's wrong with just walking to the next catering company for your cake and pizza? It's the tolerant thing to just let them be. But no, such refusals need to be punished, they must be forced to submit....
IMHO I would have something to add, but I don't know because I've not even considered trying for the afore mentioned reason. But, who knows? I could be some nut case, sitting in my underwear in the basement of my mom's house who just gets his jollies posting to Slashdot...
My point is that I'm not even tempted to try and work with Linus Travois. There is just too much drama when he decides to go off on somebody. Plus, I'm too much like Travois in my own way. I don't suffer fools who in my estimation are causing me problems for no reason... If I got very far in the project, I'd be eventually in his line of fire and it wouldn't be pretty. A wise man knows his limits..
I agree, being a good software developer includes good communication skills, not just being able to rip out reams of source code. But again, I'm not going to waste my free time arguing with someone who cannot recognize the value of what I'm doing for him by looking at the source. I'd be willing to field questions, discuss the pros and cons, but I'm loathed to argue with the project leader about it. You see, I'm like Linus in that I don't suffer fools well, only IMHO he takes it to a wholly unnecessary level at times and has publicly declared members of his staff to be fools way to quickly. That I don't need in my free time.
But each and every one has had more economic impact than Linus Travois, which was the original question I was responding too. Also, these are just the USA names off the top of my head, in no order of importance. I'm sure there are more important people from around the world.
Rick Perry and Chris Christy both managed states with large economies. Rick Perry was governor of Texas which would be on the top 10 list of countries if it was still an independent country, Christy is the governor of Jew Jersey, which may not be AS big, is still significant.
This is the FDA.. As long as it gets good headlines, they won't care what manufacturers actually do. Heck, just produce trans-fats as part of the "cooking" and processing of a item and volia, you've not added any trans-fat to the blooming thing, even if the manufacturing process actually created some...
Just be SURE of one thing... Don't rub the FDA's nose in it or they will bite you hard, again for the headline value.
You got that right.. I simply have to have my palm oil popped pop-corn... MMMM, MMMM, good that stuff is...
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But he made an excellent point... This stuff goes in cycles.... Butter is bad, use trans fats.... To Trans fats are bad, use butter..... The problem is most of us don't live long enough to recognize the cycles because they take 30 years or more sometimes.... I remember when Eggs and cholesterol was this huge no no, that people where going to die, now folks moderated that stance and eggs are actually good for you.
Which brings me to MY point.. All things in moderation, keep your weight under control and exercise some. Exercise is exceedingly more important than eating trans fats to your health and controlling your weight. Other than that, stay off the roller coaster of fads..
I guess the "pursuit of happiness" and "liberty" is trumped by your right to life.... Or so the liberal progressive mind thinks. How dare you conduct yourself in an unsafe manor, unsafe being how they choose to define it.
This all comes as Torvalds has been irking more and more people with his aggressive attitude.
Who?
Software engineers like me who won't touch the kernel with a 10' poll because I don't need the aggravation of dealing with him.
Where I suppose some would just say "good riddance, you are not good enough anyway" I'm fairly confident that there ARE some developers who would be valuable who see Linus as too much of a loose cannon, and don't want to volunteer to make him their boss. I've worked for explosive people like him professionally and it takes all the joy out of the effort. I'm not willingly subjecting myself to such abuse....
Huh? The GPL makes explicit use of both capitalism and copyright law.
Stop with the actual facts, you are confusing people who have already made up their minds... It's perception that rules the day (and what gets politicians elected, but that's another thread. )
They toss out the 99.7% number, but in the realm of precision mirrors something tells me that isn't really all that impressive. Now it may be an improvement for the lower grade mirrors at a cheaper cost. But in that sense its a rather misleading headline and article.
Yea, and only at one frequency/wavelength too... I'm guessing there are some uses of mirrors that will benefit from this, but only for laser based applications or sensors where a single frequency/wavelength gets you useful information.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh, so it's evil big corporations at fault now....
What's next, rich people are all bad because it's not fair they have more than you?
Stop pulling plays from the liberal progressive playbook and do a bit of "what if" thinking for yourself. What if we had personal responsibility instead of this cradle to grave utopia that is typical of the left's view of how it should be? Do you remember "Julia" from the last presidential campaign? Do you remember that "You didn't build that!" speech? Come on, look at our history and tell me that these are the things that made the USA what it is today. It's not, in fact, it was this kind of thing that brought the colonies to the point where they would risk it all, take on the largest, strongest, and best equipped military of the day to gain their freedom, to take control of their lives, and not depend on the king for protection and order. Read the Declaration of Independence, look at the reasons it was written and apply them to today.
This idea that we have to protect people from making bad choices, regardless of it's impact on freedom is a bad one. Not because it intends ill, but because it takes a little bit more of our freedom and personal responsibility and makes government all that more oppressive and controlling. Where does this end? What are the limits of government? There are none if we keep justifying such encroachments on freedom "Because it's best for you". NOTHING is safe if that's all it takes to justify such a regulation.
The issue they had was *delivery* to a wedding reception. Surely you see the difference here?....Delivery is seen as tacit approval
I've never thought my pizza delivery guy was tacitly approving on my lifestyle, color of my skin, or religion when he showed up....
But remember it was delivery to a wedding reception, a celebration of the happy couple's union... Do try to keep that in mind. Some might see delivering stuff and serving food at the reception as participation in the wedding, which implies approval for the proceedings (or at least it does for those objecting).
I'm not saying I agree with their refusal, I'm just saying that the tolerant thing to do is accept their refusal at face value and take your business elsewhere. Forcing them into serving you is being intolerant.
Isn't the *issue* you are trying to correct tolerance in the first place? Haven't you ever heard that "two wrongs don't make a right"? I say, be tolerant of them, walk away and leave them be. Demonstrate what true tolerance is and stop trying to force people into doing what YOU believe is right, walk away..
The tollboth guy? He STILL has his job? Now that's a broken system.
That's a question for the voters of New Jersey. The issue is he's had a large economic impact on his state. The bridge thing would just be part of that impact...
Who? Does he really think he's as important to the economy as the CEO of Halliburton or a pile of other companies with headquarters in his state?
Rick Perry has some responsibility for keeping Texas on a path to economic success. Say he's responsible for a few percent of this during his time as governor, because it's obvious he had at least SOME impact personally. Given the size of the Texas economy, that means he's had vastly more impact than Linus, even if his actual impact was only a few percent of the whole.
No, but the freedom IS one. And every time we add to regulation, no matter how well intentioned, we erode freedom. Obviously some regulation is necessary, but these days, with the literal explosion of law and regulation being put forth by the Federal Government, one needs to start asking if we shouldn't start pushing personal responsibility and freedom over some new regulation.
I'll bring up the right's favorite whipping boy, the NYC attempt to regulated how big of a soft drink you could buy from 7-11. Was that necessary? I don't think so. How about some warning signs or a public service education campaign instead? They wouldn't have impeded civil liberties and the freedom we enjoy, yet they address the issue folks where concerned about... But no, No we have to try and force people though the law to do what's right and not drink that "Big Gulp".
Where is personal responsibility? If you take that away, you necessarily take freedom away too. IMHO when you take freedom away, you darn well better have a really good reason, and "it's bad for you, we think" just doesn't rise to that standard.
Again, they've had more impact on the world's economy than Linus Travois. Which is all I'm trying to claim.... In fact, ANYBODY who has earned significantly more money than Linus Travois in the last 20 years by definition has had more economic impact.
I guess the "pursuit of happiness" and "liberty" is trumped by your right to life.... Or so the liberal progressive mind thinks.
Murdering people makes me happy. It seems that you support me because you claim the pursuit of happiness trumps the right to life.
Oh so you are a leftist progressive women's rights supporter then?
Murder is depriving another of their right to life, so you cannot do tha... Oh wait, the abortion advocates won't like it phrased like that... Um... Forget it, I have no idea how the leftist progressive abortion supporter reconciles all this in the first place...
Oh I don't worry in the least, Linus seems to have more than enough people willing to put up with him and help... It's just a thought experiment to play the what if game.. What if Linus wasn't so abrasive? Who can say for sure things would be better or worse? I think the chances are that it might be a bit better in some ways, but who's to say that some less technically capable yahoo wouldn't have ended up being in charge because they where more aggressive....
There you go... Running to the Civil rights movement of the 60's.. That makes me sad because it tarnishes the *real* meaning of what happened and why the struggle was so important. You do remember MLK right? What was his goal, what was his stated purpose? A world where people are not judged by the color of their skin, but the content of the character. (to paraphrase). He was saying that we need to not judge based on externally obvious appearances, but we CAN judge based on character. Invoking this movement in this case cheapens what actually happened because they are not the same.
I ask you, what does a gay person LOOK like? Last time I checked, they really don't appear to be any different from you and I. There isn't some mark or rainbow colored skin we can see that says "I'm gay" when somebody walks into a business. So this isn't the same thing, it's something quite different than the lunch counter in Selma AL in the 1930's. You cannot come in here this is for Whites only, is NOT possible for gay people because they LOOK exactly the same.
Also, in the two cases I am discussing it wasn't that the business refused anybody service IN the business. Neither cared if you came and picked up your cake or pizza, they would serve you, no questions asked. The pizzeria even SAID that they would gladly serve pizza to ANYBODY who walked in and paid for it. The issue they had was *delivery* to a wedding reception. Surely you see the difference here? Delivery is seen as tacit approval, participation in what these people firmly believe is wrong, stupid as it is, they should be allowed the freedom to refuse such requests. As you point out, this situation is actually really rare as social attitudes are changing, so what's wrong with just walking to the next catering company for your cake and pizza? It's the tolerant thing to just let them be. But no, such refusals need to be punished, they must be forced to submit....
Who's the intolerant here?
IMHO I would have something to add, but I don't know because I've not even considered trying for the afore mentioned reason. But, who knows? I could be some nut case, sitting in my underwear in the basement of my mom's house who just gets his jollies posting to Slashdot...
My point is that I'm not even tempted to try and work with Linus Travois. There is just too much drama when he decides to go off on somebody. Plus, I'm too much like Travois in my own way. I don't suffer fools who in my estimation are causing me problems for no reason... If I got very far in the project, I'd be eventually in his line of fire and it wouldn't be pretty. A wise man knows his limits..
I agree, being a good software developer includes good communication skills, not just being able to rip out reams of source code. But again, I'm not going to waste my free time arguing with someone who cannot recognize the value of what I'm doing for him by looking at the source. I'd be willing to field questions, discuss the pros and cons, but I'm loathed to argue with the project leader about it. You see, I'm like Linus in that I don't suffer fools well, only IMHO he takes it to a wholly unnecessary level at times and has publicly declared members of his staff to be fools way to quickly. That I don't need in my free time.
But each and every one has had more economic impact than Linus Travois, which was the original question I was responding too. Also, these are just the USA names off the top of my head, in no order of importance. I'm sure there are more important people from around the world.
Rick Perry and Chris Christy both managed states with large economies. Rick Perry was governor of Texas which would be on the top 10 list of countries if it was still an independent country, Christy is the governor of Jew Jersey, which may not be AS big, is still significant.
This is the FDA.. As long as it gets good headlines, they won't care what manufacturers actually do. Heck, just produce trans-fats as part of the "cooking" and processing of a item and volia, you've not added any trans-fat to the blooming thing, even if the manufacturing process actually created some...
Just be SURE of one thing... Don't rub the FDA's nose in it or they will bite you hard, again for the headline value.
You got that right.. I simply have to have my palm oil popped pop-corn... MMMM, MMMM, good that stuff is...
But he made an excellent point... This stuff goes in cycles.... Butter is bad, use trans fats.... To Trans fats are bad, use butter..... The problem is most of us don't live long enough to recognize the cycles because they take 30 years or more sometimes.... I remember when Eggs and cholesterol was this huge no no, that people where going to die, now folks moderated that stance and eggs are actually good for you.
Which brings me to MY point.. All things in moderation, keep your weight under control and exercise some. Exercise is exceedingly more important than eating trans fats to your health and controlling your weight. Other than that, stay off the roller coaster of fads..
Oh? Go sit in the corner of a cold room and solidify.....Trans fat wanabee..
I guess the "pursuit of happiness" and "liberty" is trumped by your right to life.... Or so the liberal progressive mind thinks. How dare you conduct yourself in an unsafe manor, unsafe being how they choose to define it.
Then you should also sign a card saying you are not entitled ...
Fuck freedom, SAFETY FOR ALL!
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
I'm laughing pretty loud at that comment and others in the cube farm are complaining... PLEASE stop with the jokes...
This all comes as Torvalds has been irking more and more people with his aggressive attitude.
Who?
Software engineers like me who won't touch the kernel with a 10' poll because I don't need the aggravation of dealing with him.
Where I suppose some would just say "good riddance, you are not good enough anyway" I'm fairly confident that there ARE some developers who would be valuable who see Linus as too much of a loose cannon, and don't want to volunteer to make him their boss. I've worked for explosive people like him professionally and it takes all the joy out of the effort. I'm not willingly subjecting myself to such abuse....
You don't say "the great dev-null" you say "kicking the bit bucket"...
In no real order except how they came up in my mind...
1. Barrack H Obama
2, 3, 4 -Bush (for three, George H, George W and Jeb)
5, 6 - Clinton (for two, Bill, Hillary)
7. Ronald Reagan (Was that more than 20 years ago now? Man I'm getting old.)
8. Mitt Romney
9. Rick Perry
10. Chris Christy
11. Scott Walker
12. Bobby Jindal
13. James Traficant
14. Ben Shalom Bernanke
15. Allen Greenspan
16. Bernie Madoff
17. T Boon Pickens
18. Bill Gates
19. Elion Musk
20. Charles Koch
21. David Koch
Need I go on?
Huh? The GPL makes explicit use of both capitalism and copyright law.
Stop with the actual facts, you are confusing people who have already made up their minds... It's perception that rules the day (and what gets politicians elected, but that's another thread. )
if he were to die
I pretty much thought that death was the only thing guaranteed in life. Except for taxes, obviously.
Life is a terminal illness, with no cure.
Both have proven themselves untrustworthy in my view.
They toss out the 99.7% number, but in the realm of precision mirrors something tells me that isn't really all that impressive. Now it may be an improvement for the lower grade mirrors at a cheaper cost. But in that sense its a rather misleading headline and article.
Yea, and only at one frequency/wavelength too... I'm guessing there are some uses of mirrors that will benefit from this, but only for laser based applications or sensors where a single frequency/wavelength gets you useful information.