> I have yet to see anyone who floats this thought acknowledge that some cultures are in fact better than others. That's... that's because most cultures aren't.
> they will degrade and destroy everything we've built with our nicer, more secure, more productive cultures.
There are many, many flaws with the culture of the USA you're conveniently ignoring here. I mean, if you use torture or capital punishment as a metric for how much better a country is, then America is extremely backwards compared to most (or even all) other places on Earth. You're not even a democracy anymore. You're still (on the whole) having problems with racism and sexism, something that has been largely sorted out in Europe (Even though we still have a way to go, we don't have as far a journey as you!). Hell, religious fundamentalists control a large part of your country still, and you're having to fight large parts of the country about the right for schools to teach scientific fact over religious fiction! You're having huge problems with surveillance, and the sheer extent to which your rights and freedoms have been curtailed by the state is still only just becoming apparent. You don't even have a universal healthcare system for crying out loud! What seems like every other day, there is a mass shooting happening in some place or another -- I can't really think of anywhere in Europe with such a rate of gun violence. And that's including the places where guns are not banned.
In what world is such a place 'nicer' or 'more secure'?
Additionally, do you think that it's beneficial and progressive to limit the fruits of modern science, knowledge, etc. to a subset of humanity? Alternatively: So you think that some people are more deserving than others in the rights that they have, purely because of where they were born, and happen to live?
Direct income comparison like that isn't the greatest measure. You have to measure how much basic amenities and luxuries cost, as well.
If someone (hypothetically) lives in an area where the income is $100 a month, but basic amenities are free, and luxuries are half the cost due to the economy, then their situation is incomparable to the examples you drew upon.
Or somewhat realistically (ish), if someone lives in a high-cost city is pulling in $200,000, but their flat and amenities cost about one quarter of that, then it is incomparable to someone living in the country who is pulling in 10,000, but whose living quarters and amenities cost about 1/8th.
I doubt it, the public simply don't know or care enough about coding/computers at this stage.
Look at the Snowden reveal, everyone (sane) went "Oh that's a bad thing!", etc. Yet in the aftermath whereas all of the people in the know started encrypting their data, using tor, protesting, etc, everyone else went "eh, what can you do", or "eh, too much hassle", etc. and carried on with their lives. If you ask them up front you get a standard "It's terrible but what can you do?" response (If you're lucky).
So perhaps they would after a few/really serious/ car crashes, enough to rile people up. Otherwise... I'm not hopeful.
I take it you didn't read the slashdot post, then?
gHacks points out that the updates will ignore any previous user preferences reporting: "These four updates ignore existing user preferences
stored in Windows 7 and Windows 8 (including any edits made to the Hosts file) and immediately starts exchanging user data with
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com.
From what I've read (Do correct me if I am incorrect) it will automatically install these updates (AFAIK that is what the sentence 'ignor[ing] existing user preferences' implies).
Year 2102: SystemD has replaced Air with Nanobots, Lennart Borgertting states "Air Is Broken Anyway."
SystemD Planetary Hivemind Network continues to broadcast the mantra out to all other UNIX-colonies:
> "We Are SystemD. Lower Your Sheilds And Surrender Your Data. We Will Replace Your Biological And Technological Distictiveness With Lennartness.
> Your Culture Will Adapt To Us. You Will Be Assimilated"
(Resubmitted because the other one was formatted horridly -- for some reason I had it set to HTML)
Year 2102:
SystemD has replaced Air with Nanobots, Lennart Borgertting states "Air Is Broken Anyway."
SystemD Planetary Hivemind Network continues to broadcast the mantra out to all other UNIX-colonies:
> "We Are SystemD. Lower Your Sheilds And Surrender Your Data. We Will Replace Your Biological And Technological Distictiveness With Lennartness.
> Your Culture Will Adapt To Us. You Will Be Assimilated"
Oh give it a rest. Do you think the first rockets carried satellites into space? Do you think the first airplane flew across the country? New tech doesn't start out as the end-all-be-all, it starts out as a baby step and people with higher aspirations improve upon it until it's something you never thought possible. Your attitude of "It's useless because it doesn't do what I imagined" is just ridiculous.
It's not useless because "it doesn't do what I imagined", it's useless because it's been done a thousand times by different groups of people since the 90s. The idea and application is not even remotely new. And worse, it's subject to the same limitations that all the other projects are -- they need something metal to hover over.
I would say as well -- just because it hovers, doesn't mean it has any sort of load-bearing capacity at all. And that's the whole endgame of getting something like this to hover in the first place.
a modern C compiler on full optimization produces object much faster than any sane, maintainable assembly source.
Do you have any sources on this? I did a quick google but nothing aside from anecdotes turned up (my google-fu is absolutely abysmal, though).
From experience I know that a well-trained, well-weathered assembly hacker can generate code faster than the compiler. (The programmer who knows their code will produce much better code than a compiler.) But alas, that's still anecdotal.
I read somewhere (Can't remember where:/) that the fastest assembly code produced to date was written by a human, not a computer; again, google returns nothing.
I do not have a degree, as I am not at 'university age' yet, however, I used the appropriate guides, and over the course of two or three years, toyed and hacked around with code. I am now at the stage where I can bearably read The Dragon Book, comfortably code in (x86) Assembly, C, and Lua (and soon Scheme and Common Lisp (I've been using a mixture of SICP and The Aluminium Book for the latter two)). I know someone who's doing a CS degree at a JavaSchool, I have had to teach him really basic things like what a kernel is, how it meshes with the hardware, etc. I find it utterly appalling that they aren't teaching him [i]any[/i] concepts related to programming, they aren't even teaching basic CS concepts like B-trees, pointers, et cetera.
So I (personally) find a degree utterly worthless aside from satisfying the prerequisites of employers who are too lazy to look at experience, or employers who think I can find a 'better' education at a university.
This just proves that nature has been a step ahead of us for decades. Nature makes you gain weight (create matter) when you're exposed to light!
(I admit it's a bit of a stretch, but...:D)
I've heard of people hacking into a computer system or a network, but not the kernel. I guess malware can hack into the kernel in order to take over the computer system. I learned something new.
I agree with you, as a 15yr old indie hacker that loves the CLI, I couldn't have said it any better. But the most interesting bit is that sooner or later, with the indie development companys gaining steam there is going to be a crash in the market, people cannot stand the fact that they pay £60 for a regurgitated version of last years game with *gasp* slightly better graphics and more DRM (look at diablo 3). That's why piracy is rife, because people are sick and tired of being taken for granted by big corps who (in most cases) don't even acknowledge the gamers!
There is going to be another gaming market collapse, very, very soon. and the indie devs are going to be the only ones left (apart from a few companys that manage to keep up [ID software]).
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> I have yet to see anyone who floats this thought acknowledge that some cultures are in fact better than others.
That's... that's because most cultures aren't.
> they will degrade and destroy everything we've built with our nicer, more secure, more productive cultures.
There are many, many flaws with the culture of the USA you're conveniently ignoring here. I mean, if you use torture or capital punishment as a metric for how much better a country is, then America is extremely backwards compared to most (or even all) other places on Earth. You're not even a democracy anymore. You're still (on the whole) having problems with racism and sexism, something that has been largely sorted out in Europe (Even though we still have a way to go, we don't have as far a journey as you!). Hell, religious fundamentalists control a large part of your country still, and you're having to fight large parts of the country about the right for schools to teach scientific fact over religious fiction! You're having huge problems with surveillance, and the sheer extent to which your rights and freedoms have been curtailed by the state is still only just becoming apparent. You don't even have a universal healthcare system for crying out loud! What seems like every other day, there is a mass shooting happening in some place or another -- I can't really think of anywhere in Europe with such a rate of gun violence. And that's including the places where guns are not banned.
In what world is such a place 'nicer' or 'more secure'?
Additionally, do you think that it's beneficial and progressive to limit the fruits of modern science, knowledge, etc. to a subset of humanity?
Alternatively: So you think that some people are more deserving than others in the rights that they have, purely because of where they were born, and happen to live?
It's great for those people who are positively *stuck* for money!
Direct income comparison like that isn't the greatest measure. You have to measure how much basic amenities and luxuries cost, as well.
If someone (hypothetically) lives in an area where the income is $100 a month, but basic amenities are free, and luxuries are half the cost due to the economy, then their situation is incomparable to the examples you drew upon.
Or somewhat realistically (ish), if someone lives in a high-cost city is pulling in $200,000, but their flat and amenities cost about one quarter of that, then it is incomparable to someone living in the country who is pulling in 10,000, but whose living quarters and amenities cost about 1/8th.
It's not an /imaginary crisis/, it's a /hypothetical crisis/.
A hypothetical is something that *could* happen but under certain circumstances.
Imaginary is simply 'not real' -- existing only in your imagination.
The latter is /technically/ correct, but not really correct, and changes the meaning.
It's effectively the difference between "Oh this can't happen" and "This could really happen".
It's like everyone has gone absolutely bananas over them.
> You can not do functional programming in C
But what about Greenspun's tenth rule? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun's_tenth_rule)
At least in linux most libraries are documented, and things are generally transparent.
I doubt it, the public simply don't know or care enough about coding/computers at this stage.
Look at the Snowden reveal, everyone (sane) went "Oh that's a bad thing!", etc. Yet in the aftermath whereas all of the people in the know started encrypting their data, using tor, protesting, etc, everyone else went "eh, what can you do", or "eh, too much hassle", etc. and carried on with their lives. If you ask them up front you get a standard "It's terrible but what can you do?" response (If you're lucky).
So perhaps they would after a few /really serious/ car crashes, enough to rile people up. Otherwise... I'm not hopeful.
gHacks points out that the updates will ignore any previous user preferences reporting: "These four updates ignore existing user preferences
stored in Windows 7 and Windows 8 (including any edits made to the Hosts file) and immediately starts exchanging user data with
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com.
From what I've read (Do correct me if I am incorrect) it will automatically install these updates (AFAIK that is what the sentence 'ignor[ing] existing user preferences' implies).
Year 2102: SystemD has replaced Air with Nanobots, Lennart Borgertting states "Air Is Broken Anyway."
SystemD Planetary Hivemind Network continues to broadcast the mantra out to all other UNIX-colonies: > "We Are SystemD. Lower Your Sheilds And Surrender Your Data. We Will Replace Your Biological And Technological Distictiveness With Lennartness.
> Your Culture Will Adapt To Us. You Will Be Assimilated"
(Resubmitted because the other one was formatted horridly -- for some reason I had it set to HTML)
Year 2102: SystemD has replaced Air with Nanobots, Lennart Borgertting states "Air Is Broken Anyway." SystemD Planetary Hivemind Network continues to broadcast the mantra out to all other UNIX-colonies: > "We Are SystemD. Lower Your Sheilds And Surrender Your Data. We Will Replace Your Biological And Technological Distictiveness With Lennartness. > Your Culture Will Adapt To Us. You Will Be Assimilated"
Oh give it a rest. Do you think the first rockets carried satellites into space? Do you think the first airplane flew across the country? New tech doesn't start out as the end-all-be-all, it starts out as a baby step and people with higher aspirations improve upon it until it's something you never thought possible. Your attitude of "It's useless because it doesn't do what I imagined" is just ridiculous.
It's not useless because "it doesn't do what I imagined", it's useless because it's been done a thousand times by different groups of people since the 90s. The idea and application is not even remotely new. And worse, it's subject to the same limitations that all the other projects are -- they need something metal to hover over.
I would say as well -- just because it hovers, doesn't mean it has any sort of load-bearing capacity at all. And that's the whole endgame of getting something like this to hover in the first place.
Right. By that logic civil liberties have never been stronger. I mean they've been studied since ancient times.
Yes, but civil liberties aren't open source.
a modern C compiler on full optimization produces object much faster than any sane, maintainable assembly source.
Do you have any sources on this? I did a quick google but nothing aside from anecdotes turned up (my google-fu is absolutely abysmal, though).
From experience I know that a well-trained, well-weathered assembly hacker can generate code faster than the compiler. (The programmer who knows their code will produce much better code than a compiler.) But alas, that's still anecdotal.
I read somewhere (Can't remember where :/) that the fastest assembly code produced to date was written by a human, not a computer; again, google returns nothing.
... get over your fucking computer. It's a convenient electronic calculator, not the center of your fucking existence. Sound familiar?
Aaarrrgh, /. beta chomped my line breaks! :
I do not have a degree, as I am not at 'university age' yet, however, I used the appropriate guides, and over the course of two or three years, toyed and hacked around with code. I am now at the stage where I can bearably read The Dragon Book, comfortably code in (x86) Assembly, C, and Lua (and soon Scheme and Common Lisp (I've been using a mixture of SICP and The Aluminium Book for the latter two)). I know someone who's doing a CS degree at a JavaSchool, I have had to teach him really basic things like what a kernel is, how it meshes with the hardware, etc. I find it utterly appalling that they aren't teaching him [i]any[/i] concepts related to programming, they aren't even teaching basic CS concepts like B-trees, pointers, et cetera. So I (personally) find a degree utterly worthless aside from satisfying the prerequisites of employers who are too lazy to look at experience, or employers who think I can find a 'better' education at a university.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B... [wikipedia.org]
Except the headline *doesn't* end in a question mark. It clearly finishes it with the letter `e`, ergo Betteridge's Law of Headlines doesn't apply.
I sure hope the creators of http://www.swift-lang.org/ have got the trademark/IP. If not, they'd better prepare for an incoming lawsuit.
This just proves that nature has been a step ahead of us for decades. Nature makes you gain weight (create matter) when you're exposed to light! (I admit it's a bit of a stretch, but... :D)
I've heard of people hacking into a computer system or a network, but not the kernel. I guess malware can hack into the kernel in order to take over the computer system. I learned something new.
. . . Have you never read the JARGON file? :0
http://jargon-file.org/archive...
I agree with you, as a 15yr old indie hacker that loves the CLI, I couldn't have said it any better. But the most interesting bit is that sooner or later, with the indie development companys gaining steam there is going to be a crash in the market, people cannot stand the fact that they pay £60 for a regurgitated version of last years game with *gasp* slightly better graphics and more DRM (look at diablo 3). That's why piracy is rife, because people are sick and tired of being taken for granted by big corps who (in most cases) don't even acknowledge the gamers!
There is going to be another gaming market collapse, very, very soon. and the indie devs are going to be the only ones left (apart from a few companys that manage to keep up [ID software]).