If a US citizen had a server in China and shared copyrighted content on it I guarantee you US authorities would prosecute them in the US. So I call BS.
At the end of the day its just whatever argument serves the interests of the copyright cartel and that is almost always persecution in the US.
Of course they would. How does that contradict also prosecuting people that do business with US companies and host their servers in the US?
If "promoting copyright infringement" was a crime, then all broadband providers would be shut down long ago. There needs to be a criminal intent, which is very hard to prove.
I don't know any ISP that does such. Care to point out who openly promotes copyright infringement?
Note that Dotcom is not originally New Zealander. Countries sometimes refuse to extradite people born in their country, but such usually isn't the case with foreign nationals.
And I'm pretty surprised you would support him either, especially when you slashdotters usually talk about the media executives wanting to grab lots of money and live great life with yaches and other things. Does his house and parties look like he was a honest guy wanting common good? What about the cars with license plates like "GOD", "GUILTY", "HACKER," "MAFIA," and "STONED"? Or his past convictions of inside trading and criminal hacking?
Please note that the YouTube+Universal deal is between them. It has nothing to do with law or censorship. If YouTube gives Universal the ability to delete videos at whim, so be it. You have freedom of speech, but no private company needs to provide you the platform to do it. If you want to blame somebody, blame YouTube (and Google) for giving them such a tool.
First, let's not confuse the recent raid with MegaUploads lawsuit against Universal. Universal took down MegaUpload's advertising video from YouTube by abusing YouTube's system for DMCA takedows. When faced with the fact that MegaUpload's ad contained no infringing material, Universal turned around and denied that it was a DMCA takedown. Clearly, Universal does not want to take responsibility for its actions.
And since it was a deal between YouTube and Universal, there was no DMCA laws involved. If the deal included Universal's ability to remove any file they wish, so be it. If not, it's to be resolved between YouTube and Universal. Not that I like that deal, but regarding to law, there is nothing wrong being done.
Then why did their internal emails show that they were fully aware of the copyright violations? From the indictment:
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On or about February 5, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail to ORTMANN entitled âoereward paymentsâ. Attached to the e-mail was a text file listing thefollowing proposed reward amounts, the Megaupload.com username, and the contentthey uploaded:
100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] 10+ Full popular DVD rips (split files), a fewsmall porn movies, some software with keygenerators (warez) 100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] 5845 files in his account, mainly Vietnamesecontent 100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] Popular DVD rips 100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] Some older DVD rips + unknown (Italianserries?) rar files 1500 USD [USERNAME DELETED] known paid user (vietnamese content)
On or about February 21, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN entitled âoe2 reward payment files.â Attached to the e-mail was a file containingMegaupload.com usersâ(TM) e-mail addresses and reward payments for that time period, whichranged from $100 to $500. For one user that was paid $300, VAN DER KOLK wrote, âoe30849files, mainly Mp3z, some copyrighted but most of them have a very small number of downloadsper file.â For other users, all of which were selected for reward payments of $100 by the MegaConspiracy, he wrote the following: âoeOur old famous number one on MU, still some illegal files but I think he deserves a paymentâ; âoeLoads of PDF files (looks like scanned magazines)â; âoelookslike vietnamese DVD ripsâ; âoeThis user was paid last time has mainly split RAR files, howevermore than 50% deleted through abuse reports.â
Not only did MegaUpload not delete the actual files when sent DMCA notices (but did when sent abuse letters about illegal content like child porn)
This is not necessary. If you read the DMCA it is enough to simply remove *access* to the content.
However, it matters because MegaUpload used hashes on all the files and if someone uploaded the same file again, they only made a new reference to it. At the same time when they got DMCA notice they didn't remove all the urls associated with the file, but only the one that received the notice. That clearly shows intent of keeping as many copies of the file online while only removing the one that has been detected by the copyright owner. Even more problematic is the fact that they did have this system in place because they did it for files such as child porn. But because copyrighted content was such a major income stream for them, they tried to get away with it in that special case.
Exactly correct. It's funny that people always point out that The Pirate Bay and other torrent sites are hosted in Sweden and therefore it's Swedish law that applies to them, but now it's somehow different when they hosted in the US. On top of that they also worked with US companies, and as another point, usually these sites pay more for US visitors than for example visitors from China or Russia (as they make more revenue). This clearly shows intent target US persons.
With the ton of information about the multi-year investigation about MegaUpload and all the evidence gathered they practically have zero possibility of winning the case. They really got it handed down on them and are most likely looking for a long time in jail.
Not only did MegaUpload not delete the actual files when sent DMCA notices (but did when sent abuse letters about illegal content like child porn), they also paid the uploaders cash in exchange to send downloaders to their site. This was almost all the times used for spreading copyright infringing material and MegaUpload was notoriously known for being good site for such use. As the internal emails show they were also fully aware of this fact. It also seems like the feds are now in possession of the top affiliates on the site which most likely will lead to more arrests for criminal copyright infringement, as they made lots of money by doing it.
Also another fact: not only did MegaUpload staff know about this activity and try to get around DMCA notices and laws, they did copyright infringement themselves. For example they used to populate their MegaVideo site by downloading and adding videos from YouTube. This was also videos created by people like you, not only mega-corps. This and much more was revealed in the arrest and their internal emails.
All phone service is really a credit account because you have access to overage minutes, pay-for numbers, etc. You can run up an unlimited bill if you or your teenager goes over the usage plan. Pay those bills on time and you can gain credit score points, run up a higher bill than you can pay and it goes as a missed payment.
I guess you haven't traveled much. In these countries you usually top-up your account and use the money you've pre-paid.
The countries listed, and where credit is not usual for people but mostly businesses (and only then for billing duration), have it more right than US. In the United Status people need to take loans just to build up their credit history, which is just useless costs. The only justified things for loans should be loans for starting businesses, houses and maybe cars. Living on credit for your everyday things is just stupid and bad for economy. And this also includes credit cards, even if you pay them back as soon as you get the bill.
However, in general Buddhism (especially Theravada Buddhism) is much saner "religion" compared to Christianity and others. It is quite close to Atheism, and for example doesn't believe in gods. It's more like good guide for life, and promotes the idea of own mind. It also believes that Buddha only created the religion and he was a normal, living guy.
I don't see how. The laws aren't saying that you don't need to believe in god (Buddhism doesn't have one), but you just cannot stop others believing in their religion. Note that he isn't promoting Buddhism, but Atheism:
The posting was made on a Facebook Page titled Ateis Minang (Minang Atheist), which Aan created.
This is true for most of USA too. While you probably won't get jailed for saying such, there are just as ridiculous laws and customs based on Christianity, especially compared to other more saner countries. Especially about gay marriage and abortion.
So now you just need to live with another guy and it's again back to 25%. Or with more people and it goes even lower. Why do American's need own places when in Asia it's perfectly fine to live with other people, and actually even preferred way of living.
I worked minimum wage jobs when I came to America, and I've climbed, by studying and hard work, to where I am now (pretty at the upper middle class bracket.) I can tell you that you simply cannot live at a hamburger flipping salary. How? You cannot even pay rent with that. People who have those jobs (and I know because I've been there) have to lump themselves together with relatives or friends and edge a meager existence.
So not only did you succeed improving your own life and getting a better job after a while, you also provided solution to the renting costs - just rent out the place with a few friends, girlfriend or relatives. What is so horrible about that? Why do you need your own place, especially when you're young. The only reason for that is entitlement thinking and not wanting to work towards getting those things later.
Many of the people don't want to leave the factories. They have it better there than working in some farm or really poor areas. Suicide nets and people are only talking about them because it feels like they're there just because so many workers are unhappy. In reality, when you have so many people working in these factories (it's almost a mid-sized country), there are going to be suicides, just like there is in the US, other countries and cities. Since the people are living there, the suicides also happen at the work place. Suicide nets are only used because it generated so much bad PR because people couldn't think about the real reason.
Oh please... "general laziness and not wanting to do it", way to make broad generalizations. As if every Asian person in the world would up and leave where they grew up or have family to go find a job as well.
I would love to see you just pack up and leave to go somewhere where "jobs exists". Especially when you don't already have a job there already. That's quite a risky proposition and it's always easier said then done.
Actually, many Asians do. On top of that, I have relocated to Asia because the living costs are cheaper (and it's nicer there) while my pay is still the same. Of course there is some risk involved, but usually things just work out if you aren't so strict about everything. People have done this from the beginning of time. Why do you think Rome spread, and why you do you think we as humans are living around the world and not just everyone in a single place we grow up at?
Living costs are also much lower in China. And are you saying that there isn't a single job available in the US, not even in industries that aren't directly what you want to do or that require lots of manual hard work? People just don't want to do them if it doesn't interest them, isn't available where they happen to live or there's prejudices and "I'm too good for that job" against the work (ie., working as a burger flipper or a stripper).
What's the problem really? You don't need to buy a house just to move somewhere. If Asian people can do it, why can't US people? It's just a matter of not wanting to do it and general laziness.
How can they use that cash when majority of US people are rather unemployed than move to places with jobs (especially for jobs that are actually hard work). It's a problem with western people, not Apple.
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If a US citizen had a server in China and shared copyrighted content on it I guarantee you US authorities would prosecute them in the US. So I call BS.
At the end of the day its just whatever argument serves the interests of the copyright cartel and that is almost always persecution in the US.
Of course they would. How does that contradict also prosecuting people that do business with US companies and host their servers in the US?
Not with all the sites. And not with The Pirate Bay either. One of them ran off to Cambodia.
If "promoting copyright infringement" was a crime, then all broadband providers would be shut down long ago. There needs to be a criminal intent, which is very hard to prove.
I don't know any ISP that does such. Care to point out who openly promotes copyright infringement?
Note that Dotcom is not originally New Zealander. Countries sometimes refuse to extradite people born in their country, but such usually isn't the case with foreign nationals.
And I'm pretty surprised you would support him either, especially when you slashdotters usually talk about the media executives wanting to grab lots of money and live great life with yaches and other things. Does his house and parties look like he was a honest guy wanting common good? What about the cars with license plates like "GOD", "GUILTY", "HACKER," "MAFIA," and "STONED"? Or his past convictions of inside trading and criminal hacking?
Please note that the YouTube+Universal deal is between them. It has nothing to do with law or censorship. If YouTube gives Universal the ability to delete videos at whim, so be it. You have freedom of speech, but no private company needs to provide you the platform to do it. If you want to blame somebody, blame YouTube (and Google) for giving them such a tool.
First, let's not confuse the recent raid with MegaUploads lawsuit against Universal. Universal took down MegaUpload's advertising video from YouTube by abusing YouTube's system for DMCA takedows. When faced with the fact that MegaUpload's ad contained no infringing material, Universal turned around and denied that it was a DMCA takedown. Clearly, Universal does not want to take responsibility for its actions.
And since it was a deal between YouTube and Universal, there was no DMCA laws involved. If the deal included Universal's ability to remove any file they wish, so be it. If not, it's to be resolved between YouTube and Universal. Not that I like that deal, but regarding to law, there is nothing wrong being done.
Nonsense. They also have servers in the Netherlands, so why does it fall under American law and not Dutch?
Depending on Netherlands laws, I guess it might. Do you want them to be prosecuted in both USA and Netherlands?
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On or about February 5, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail to ORTMANN entitled âoereward paymentsâ. Attached to the e-mail was a text file listing thefollowing proposed reward amounts, the Megaupload.com username, and the contentthey uploaded:
100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] 10+ Full popular DVD rips (split files), a fewsmall porn movies, some software with keygenerators (warez)
100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] 5845 files in his account, mainly Vietnamesecontent
100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] Popular DVD rips
100 USD [USERNAME DELETED] Some older DVD rips + unknown (Italianserries?) rar files
1500 USD [USERNAME DELETED] known paid user (vietnamese content)
On or about February 21, 2007, VAN DER KOLK sent an e-mail toORTMANN entitled âoe2 reward payment files.â Attached to the e-mail was a file containingMegaupload.com usersâ(TM) e-mail addresses and reward payments for that time period, whichranged from $100 to $500. For one user that was paid $300, VAN DER KOLK wrote, âoe30849files, mainly Mp3z, some copyrighted but most of them have a very small number of downloadsper file.â For other users, all of which were selected for reward payments of $100 by the MegaConspiracy, he wrote the following: âoeOur old famous number one on MU, still some illegal files but I think he deserves a paymentâ; âoeLoads of PDF files (looks like scanned magazines)â; âoelookslike vietnamese DVD ripsâ; âoeThis user was paid last time has mainly split RAR files, howevermore than 50% deleted through abuse reports.â
Not only did MegaUpload not delete the actual files when sent DMCA notices (but did when sent abuse letters about illegal content like child porn)
This is not necessary. If you read the DMCA it is enough to simply remove *access* to the content.
However, it matters because MegaUpload used hashes on all the files and if someone uploaded the same file again, they only made a new reference to it. At the same time when they got DMCA notice they didn't remove all the urls associated with the file, but only the one that received the notice. That clearly shows intent of keeping as many copies of the file online while only removing the one that has been detected by the copyright owner. Even more problematic is the fact that they did have this system in place because they did it for files such as child porn. But because copyrighted content was such a major income stream for them, they tried to get away with it in that special case.
Exactly correct. It's funny that people always point out that The Pirate Bay and other torrent sites are hosted in Sweden and therefore it's Swedish law that applies to them, but now it's somehow different when they hosted in the US. On top of that they also worked with US companies, and as another point, usually these sites pay more for US visitors than for example visitors from China or Russia (as they make more revenue). This clearly shows intent target US persons.
With the ton of information about the multi-year investigation about MegaUpload and all the evidence gathered they practically have zero possibility of winning the case. They really got it handed down on them and are most likely looking for a long time in jail.
Not only did MegaUpload not delete the actual files when sent DMCA notices (but did when sent abuse letters about illegal content like child porn), they also paid the uploaders cash in exchange to send downloaders to their site. This was almost all the times used for spreading copyright infringing material and MegaUpload was notoriously known for being good site for such use. As the internal emails show they were also fully aware of this fact. It also seems like the feds are now in possession of the top affiliates on the site which most likely will lead to more arrests for criminal copyright infringement, as they made lots of money by doing it.
Also another fact: not only did MegaUpload staff know about this activity and try to get around DMCA notices and laws, they did copyright infringement themselves. For example they used to populate their MegaVideo site by downloading and adding videos from YouTube. This was also videos created by people like you, not only mega-corps. This and much more was revealed in the arrest and their internal emails.
Seriously, what's the difference between lobbying and bribery?
Bribery is honest, lobbying is dishonest.
All phone service is really a credit account because you have access to overage minutes, pay-for numbers, etc. You can run up an unlimited bill if you or your teenager goes over the usage plan. Pay those bills on time and you can gain credit score points, run up a higher bill than you can pay and it goes as a missed payment.
I guess you haven't traveled much. In these countries you usually top-up your account and use the money you've pre-paid.
The countries listed, and where credit is not usual for people but mostly businesses (and only then for billing duration), have it more right than US. In the United Status people need to take loans just to build up their credit history, which is just useless costs. The only justified things for loans should be loans for starting businesses, houses and maybe cars. Living on credit for your everyday things is just stupid and bad for economy. And this also includes credit cards, even if you pay them back as soon as you get the bill.
However, in general Buddhism (especially Theravada Buddhism) is much saner "religion" compared to Christianity and others. It is quite close to Atheism, and for example doesn't believe in gods. It's more like good guide for life, and promotes the idea of own mind. It also believes that Buddha only created the religion and he was a normal, living guy.
The posting was made on a Facebook Page titled Ateis Minang (Minang Atheist), which Aan created.
This is true for most of USA too. While you probably won't get jailed for saying such, there are just as ridiculous laws and customs based on Christianity, especially compared to other more saner countries. Especially about gay marriage and abortion.
You're seriously comparing living with other people to torture and abuse? Social situations must be really hard for you.
So now you just need to live with another guy and it's again back to 25%. Or with more people and it goes even lower. Why do American's need own places when in Asia it's perfectly fine to live with other people, and actually even preferred way of living.
I worked minimum wage jobs when I came to America, and I've climbed, by studying and hard work, to where I am now (pretty at the upper middle class bracket.) I can tell you that you simply cannot live at a hamburger flipping salary. How? You cannot even pay rent with that. People who have those jobs (and I know because I've been there) have to lump themselves together with relatives or friends and edge a meager existence.
So not only did you succeed improving your own life and getting a better job after a while, you also provided solution to the renting costs - just rent out the place with a few friends, girlfriend or relatives. What is so horrible about that? Why do you need your own place, especially when you're young. The only reason for that is entitlement thinking and not wanting to work towards getting those things later.
Many of the people don't want to leave the factories. They have it better there than working in some farm or really poor areas. Suicide nets and people are only talking about them because it feels like they're there just because so many workers are unhappy. In reality, when you have so many people working in these factories (it's almost a mid-sized country), there are going to be suicides, just like there is in the US, other countries and cities. Since the people are living there, the suicides also happen at the work place. Suicide nets are only used because it generated so much bad PR because people couldn't think about the real reason.
Oh please... "general laziness and not wanting to do it", way to make broad generalizations. As if every Asian person in the world would up and leave where they grew up or have family to go find a job as well.
I would love to see you just pack up and leave to go somewhere where "jobs exists". Especially when you don't already have a job there already. That's quite a risky proposition and it's always easier said then done.
Actually, many Asians do. On top of that, I have relocated to Asia because the living costs are cheaper (and it's nicer there) while my pay is still the same. Of course there is some risk involved, but usually things just work out if you aren't so strict about everything. People have done this from the beginning of time. Why do you think Rome spread, and why you do you think we as humans are living around the world and not just everyone in a single place we grow up at?
Living costs are also much lower in China. And are you saying that there isn't a single job available in the US, not even in industries that aren't directly what you want to do or that require lots of manual hard work? People just don't want to do them if it doesn't interest them, isn't available where they happen to live or there's prejudices and "I'm too good for that job" against the work (ie., working as a burger flipper or a stripper).
What's the problem really? You don't need to buy a house just to move somewhere. If Asian people can do it, why can't US people? It's just a matter of not wanting to do it and general laziness.
How can they use that cash when majority of US people are rather unemployed than move to places with jobs (especially for jobs that are actually hard work). It's a problem with western people, not Apple.