No, the constant whining that they can't find people shows that we're underpaid. The managerial class would rather suppress wages than get work done. And why not? They just want to replace other workers with automated processes so it can wait until they find someone cheap who can barely pull it off.
Then they put that they saved the company a bazillion dollars by managing software as a chief executive project program manager architect and move into another management position at some other company before shit can hit the fan.
I didn't work IT in the military but I watched those who did struggle with some rather laughable textbook-question problems and come up with even sillier solutions. I won't be specific because it could reveal a lot about my identity but these are interview-starter question level problems that any given candidate should be able to answer 3/4ths of... and it wasn't like we had just one guy running IT so between the lot of them they were um less than one good IT generalist if you added them all up.
Nah I totally feel that. There are some great career positions in the govt if you can find them. Come in, say hi, do your job, go home, and eventually retire. For some reason IT hiring seems to be a challenge for most companies but the government in particular struggles with it and presents a face that turns off the exact sort of applicants they should be trying to get in the case of infosec.
When it comes to getting "the best of the best of the best!!!" our federal government starts by filtering out all the weird aspies, druggies, and neer-do-wells when, in this case, that's where the kind of talent they need lives and they should be working hard to hand select the most functional and competent members of these groups. They also have a hard time accepting that people just don't want to work for them anymore so they need to drop their superior attitude... the dude they're interviewing is takes his dog to work, works from home on wednesdays but always makes it in for beer and pajamas fridays where he works now so it won't take a lot of bureaucratic shit or down-talking to make him nope right the fuck out the front door.
Why would you pretend like you don't know what he's talking about? Completely different sort of LEO and it's no like there aren't a bunch of town cops who have set up little fiefdoms with a few of the other local power players. Maybe not your friend but there is zero chance that your understanding is actually this bad.
Fun fact: The government won't pay more because it's unfathomable that low level engineers should make more than the director of national intelligence.
The top people in our government can't grok why a low level employee with rare skills might make more than a guy who takes a job that has a pipeline of 100s of potential applicants all gunning for a seat. We have the best and brightest at the helm!
It stops making sense when you realize that you need a 40k security clearance for a good chunk of the entry level IT jobs. Where do you find an entry level worker with a 40k clearance? Fresh out of the military.
Now you're talking bout a guy who got A+/Net+ certified 3 years ago and was lucky if he was making even the most petty of decisions on his own the last year before he got out.
The only military IT people who impress me are comms guys.
Riiiight. Because good computer people wanna make a fraction of the pay, take drug tests and answer quizzes about their finances, drug history, and sex life.
Well before it came out that these were indeed russian trolls. I noticed they'd shut up if you started speculating that they were paid. Obviously they know more about trolling than you and they consider it a threat to their operation. Everyone else will get tired of being called a paid shill and go back to their reality television where they rightfully no longer matter.
10base2 is thinnet. I have to admit it's been so long I checked that I wasn't mixing it up with base T (T connectors? "T"hinnet base2-pairs?). 10broad36 was news to me though.
The irony is there but we'd all be much better off if the news went back to being a buck a day. I would never have thought giving people easy access to information could be a bad thing but it seems to be the case.
If ad supported journalism went away tomorrow then we'd be stuck with public media and paid news sites. The morons destroying this country would go back to only pretending to stay informed and go back to watching sitcoms.
Hahahah shut the fuck up you paid shill. Jesus christ i can't believe i spent all my mod points before seeing your post. Even fucking comcast of all places has *some* support of net neturality. Except for the parts they don't like, naturally.
It's obvious you're not a real person. Why the fuck are you guys posting on slashdot of all places though? This place is just a clubhouse for a few old nerds these days.
If you want good news anymore you have to pay for it. I pay for my news and oddly enough the reporting is consistently congruent with reality, remember, back in the good ole days when the news took itself seriously? Amazing. I don't use facebook and I don't have to respect people who never consumed the news until it had more shouting and hotter sluts
If you pieced things together like you claim you'd actually do noticed the russian interference before the press.
Ivan, Maybe you'll realize I'm right and stop trying to have political discussions. I was like you once. I loved to argue but now I see how pointless it is and how much better it is to troll our deserving world. There really are a ton of paid shills fucking up the internet, the rest of the people you argue with probably aren't worth arguing with anyhow. Most of them used to be the same retards that came over from AOL and ruined the internet. Lower your expectations of people and give them what they need and deserve.
Why would I argue with you properly? Neither of us is capable of changing our minds, you can cry about debate, logic, discourse, or whatever you want but this is not a greek forum, not a courtroom, and you're not in debate club. This is the big dumb internet. You should know that by now. Furthermore there is no point, you can't change anything for the better.
You're just one stupid fuck on the internet helping to stir the pot until the country falls to pieces. Calling you a paid shill shuts your shit down, there is no rallying against the dumbocrats, there is no shaming my intolerance for dragongendered asexuals, nobodys lives get to matter. You're simply forced for a few minutes experience what you really are. One little helpless man sitting behind a keyboard pissing everyone off and wasting their time. I don't even give a fuck about your politics. I just don't like YOU.
I don't care if you're a russian troll or not but nobody should engage you in pointless internet debates. They should call you names.
He does touch on something though. Many people go to college and apply everything they learn incorrectly. We have all encountered an internet asshole who is wrong and screams ad hominem because people call him an obnoxious asshole and don't bother trying to "debate" him. He struggles to understand that nobody cares if he is correct and the current topic of debate is his character and not what he want to talk about.
Then there is the we're having an internet argument "I have citations" and "show me your citations"... but absolutely not wikipedia. I have encountered LOTS of people who think all citations (except wikipedia) are created equal. It's the kind of thing you'd think a middle school kid could understand but yet somehow many students seem to leave college less capable of critical thought than they arrived.
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No, the constant whining that they can't find people shows that we're underpaid. The managerial class would rather suppress wages than get work done.
And why not? They just want to replace other workers with automated processes so it can wait until they find someone cheap who can barely pull it off.
Then they put that they saved the company a bazillion dollars by managing software as a chief executive project program manager architect and move into another management position at some other company before shit can hit the fan.
Actually, the FBI is on the front line fighting cyber crime and economic espionage
So it looks like a US agency has finally decided to take responsibility for our nation's information security disaster!!!
I didn't work IT in the military but I watched those who did struggle with some rather laughable textbook-question problems and come up with even sillier solutions. I won't be specific because it could reveal a lot about my identity but these are interview-starter question level problems that any given candidate should be able to answer 3/4ths of... and it wasn't like we had just one guy running IT so between the lot of them they were um less than one good IT generalist if you added them all up.
This was ages ago so maybe things have changed.
Nah I totally feel that. There are some great career positions in the govt if you can find them. Come in, say hi, do your job, go home, and eventually retire.
For some reason IT hiring seems to be a challenge for most companies but the government in particular struggles with it and presents a face that turns off the exact sort of applicants they should be trying to get in the case of infosec.
When it comes to getting "the best of the best of the best!!!" our federal government starts by filtering out all the weird aspies, druggies, and neer-do-wells when, in this case, that's where the kind of talent they need lives and they should be working hard to hand select the most functional and competent members of these groups. They also have a hard time accepting that people just don't want to work for them anymore so they need to drop their superior attitude... the dude they're interviewing is takes his dog to work, works from home on wednesdays but always makes it in for beer and pajamas fridays where he works now so it won't take a lot of bureaucratic shit or down-talking to make him nope right the fuck out the front door.
Why would you pretend like you don't know what he's talking about?
Completely different sort of LEO and it's no like there aren't a bunch of town cops who have set up little fiefdoms with a few of the other local power players. Maybe not your friend but there is zero chance that your understanding is actually this bad.
Fun fact:
The government won't pay more because it's unfathomable that low level engineers should make more than the director of national intelligence.
The top people in our government can't grok why a low level employee with rare skills might make more than a guy who takes a job that has a pipeline of 100s of potential applicants all gunning for a seat. We have the best and brightest at the helm!
It stops making sense when you realize that you need a 40k security clearance for a good chunk of the entry level IT jobs.
Where do you find an entry level worker with a 40k clearance? Fresh out of the military.
Now you're talking bout a guy who got A+/Net+ certified 3 years ago and was lucky if he was making even the most petty of decisions on his own the last year before he got out.
The only military IT people who impress me are comms guys.
Riiiight.
Because good computer people wanna make a fraction of the pay, take drug tests and answer quizzes about their finances, drug history, and sex life.
-- Filter error: You can type more than that for your comment.
(Ahem that's like trollface.png except with less aliasing and a record deal.)
Well before it came out that these were indeed russian trolls. I noticed they'd shut up if you started speculating that they were paid. Obviously they know more about trolling than you and they consider it a threat to their operation.
Everyone else will get tired of being called a paid shill and go back to their reality television where they rightfully no longer matter.
Does it really matter. Turning russian troll into a meme makes a pretty hostile environment for paid shilling
Comrade your english is shit there is no way I'm going to believe you're an american. Why don't you tell us some more about your neighbor finland?
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10base2 is thinnet. I have to admit it's been so long I checked that I wasn't mixing it up with base T (T connectors? "T"hinnet base2-pairs?). 10broad36 was news to me though.
I was being silly but I meant what I said.
I misjudged you. UR woke as fuck bro.
Ahhh yes this is what East Germans thought about their stasi records. It's a common coping mechanism.
The irony is there but we'd all be much better off if the news went back to being a buck a day. I would never have thought giving people easy access to information could be a bad thing but it seems to be the case.
If ad supported journalism went away tomorrow then we'd be stuck with public media and paid news sites. The morons destroying this country would go back to only pretending to stay informed and go back to watching sitcoms.
Hahahah shut the fuck up you paid shill. Jesus christ i can't believe i spent all my mod points before seeing your post.
Even fucking comcast of all places has *some* support of net neturality. Except for the parts they don't like, naturally.
It's obvious you're not a real person. Why the fuck are you guys posting on slashdot of all places though? This place is just a clubhouse for a few old nerds these days.
If you want good news anymore you have to pay for it. I pay for my news and oddly enough the reporting is consistently congruent with reality, remember, back in the good ole days when the news took itself seriously? Amazing. I don't use facebook and I don't have to respect people who never consumed the news until it had more shouting and hotter sluts
If you pieced things together like you claim you'd actually do noticed the russian interference before the press.
Ivan,
Maybe you'll realize I'm right and stop trying to have political discussions. I was like you once. I loved to argue but now I see how pointless it is and how much better it is to troll our deserving world.
There really are a ton of paid shills fucking up the internet, the rest of the people you argue with probably aren't worth arguing with anyhow. Most of them used to be the same retards that came over from AOL and ruined the internet. Lower your expectations of people and give them what they need and deserve.
Why would I argue with you properly? Neither of us is capable of changing our minds, you can cry about debate, logic, discourse, or whatever you want but this is not a greek forum, not a courtroom, and you're not in debate club. This is the big dumb internet. You should know that by now. Furthermore there is no point, you can't change anything for the better.
You're just one stupid fuck on the internet helping to stir the pot until the country falls to pieces. Calling you a paid shill shuts your shit down, there is no rallying against the dumbocrats, there is no shaming my intolerance for dragongendered asexuals, nobodys lives get to matter. You're simply forced for a few minutes experience what you really are. One little helpless man sitting behind a keyboard pissing everyone off and wasting their time. I don't even give a fuck about your politics. I just don't like YOU.
I don't care if you're a russian troll or not but nobody should engage you in pointless internet debates. They should call you names.
Now fuck off Cindy.
None of those are critical thinking but they are skills.
He does touch on something though. Many people go to college and apply everything they learn incorrectly.
We have all encountered an internet asshole who is wrong and screams ad hominem because people call him an obnoxious asshole and don't bother trying to "debate" him. He struggles to understand that nobody cares if he is correct and the current topic of debate is his character and not what he want to talk about.
Then there is the we're having an internet argument "I have citations" and "show me your citations"... but absolutely not wikipedia. I have encountered LOTS of people who think all citations (except wikipedia) are created equal. It's the kind of thing you'd think a middle school kid could understand but yet somehow many students seem to leave college less capable of critical thought than they arrived.