You can easily see this is true with a quick trip to any jungle, which is both hotter and wetter than most other place on Earth, yet also has the greatest abundance of vegetation...
It's almost like temperature and humidity are different variables. And someday, you might actually understand that. And thus understand why climate change is going to lead to expanding deserts. Hint: It's not all about the temperature.
You don't need the alcohol to work as an antiseptic. You need it to work as a preservative. And it works as a preservative at a far lower concentration than as an antiseptic.
After all, that's why things like beer and wine top out at a relatively low alcohol concentration - the alcohol starts killing the yeast.
You've got to be kidding. There are often many alternatives to a given kind of transportation: walk, run, own bike, rent bike, horse, hitchhike, motorcycle, moped, bus, subway, *move to closer location*, decide that the trip wasn't worth whatever they're charging, etc
Because your alternatives are so practical for most people after decades of fucking up our cities due to zoning.
"Hmm...I can't afford an Uber....I know! I'll buy a horse!! Or dig my own subway!!"
Why would you quit if doing so would do nothing to prevent the very thing you objected to?
The DoD is one of Microsoft's largest customers. Why would you go to work for Microsoft if you thought it was wrong for your products to be used for waging war?
How is it a political piece and not an story on ethics?
Because Microsoft sells lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of software to the DoD already. All of it is in service of killing people - that's what the DoD does.
To suddenly be concerned that there could be classified Azure instances would seem like a strange place to draw the line if you were so concerned that your company's software could be used for violence. You'd think their deep non-violent beliefs would also extend to the rest of Microsoft's software.
over half of the potentially economically active Somalians are on welfare.
In the short term. Longer-term, they work. You're getting a flood of refugees so you're getting more people in that short-term situation. Presumably they will end up like previous immigrants who did the exact same thing and ended up working.
Massive brain drain is the future of Western Europe
To where? Those brains going to move to the US and enjoy our low-paid jobs?
Japan's economy is only "in trouble" because of a flawed economic system where everything is expected to continuously grow and keep shareholders happy "or else"
Nope. Japan, like most of the developed world, has a lot of programs to aid seniors. Those programs are paid for by taxes on the two next generations that are still working.
When those next generations are smaller than the one they are supporting, you have a big problem funding those programs.
Also, shrinking populations have problems being sustainable. Because you have fewer workers, your ability to make goods and services shrinks. Which lowers quality of life, and encourages smaller families. Which leads to fewer workers. Which leads to less goods and services. Which lowers quality of life and encourages smaller families. Which leads to fewer workers....
Nope. Earlier versions required fetal serum albumin in the growth media. The way they got it down to $37 per pound is to change the growth media so that it no longer contains FSA.
They don't feed algae to the synthetic meat cells.
Some versions use algae byproducts to produce the media for the cells to grow on.
No, it's relevant for the growth of the meat cells. They need all the proper nutrients
Those nutrients aren't blood. Blood is a transport mechanism for those nutrients in a cow. You don't have to use the same transport mechanism when it's growing in a lab.
For you maybe. I care more about the nutritional value.
Good news! They're already equal in nutritional value.
Population will simply grow until we eat the planet.
Except population growth is leveling off. The developed world is at or below replacement rate (2.1 kids per woman). The places that used to have very high birth rates (>5/woman) now have much lower birth rates (~3/woman) and those birth rates continue to drop.
It turns out there is a way to control population. Educate girls.
And Europe needs those immigrants because the internal birth rate is below replacement rate.
Japan's economy has been in deep trouble for the last few decades because their birth rate is below replacement and they more-or-less do not allow immigration.
As for Africa itself, birth rate is plummeting. It was quite high before, so it still has a ways to go.
b) people switched to cars because they are better.
And one of the primary ways they are better is they do not produce horse manure. And yes, this was actually a perk when cars were first becoming popular.
The point is, we do not need to use the force of government to compel ourselves to change
Sometimes we don't, and sometimes we do. The tragedy of the commons is a real thing and it can't always be fixed by asking nicely.
And this opportunity to force others into doing, what they believe is good, is the real motivation behind the noises being made by "global warming" crowd, 99% of them far-Left partisans.
Nope. There's plenty of people that understand climate change is happening are not "far-Left". Or even "left".
But in the US we have a very large industry that has been created to convince a subset of our population that climate change isn't actually happening. Instead, there's a massive secret cabal out to harm you, personally via an incredibly awkward and inefficient plan. And despite the massive size of this cabal, nobody has leaked proof of its existence. Even though such a leaker would reap massive financial rewards from all the industries that don't want climate change to exist. This also ignores there are far easier and more direct ways to actually accomplish this supposed goal of hurting you, personally.
Despite the fact that this story is about as unrealistic as "NASA faked the moon landing!", it has sold surprisingly well to certain groups who now cling to it as a religious belief.
You have a bunch of muscle cells, and you feed them nutrients that they can live and grow on, and then you eat those cells. Why not skip all of that, and just eat the same nutrients yourself ?
Because 1) humans have difficulty digesting algae, and 2) meat tastes better.
Real meat makes sense, because the muscle cells get fed real cow's blood, with immense complexity of nutrients that we cannot duplicate.
Of course we can duplicate cow's blood. The question is whether it's worth the cost and whether the blood is actually relevant for flavor development (it isn't).
The main issue with synthetic meat at the moment is texture. Getting the meat-to-fat ratio correct while also in the correct structure of the meat isn't easy. Synthetic beef has already "passed" blind taste tests against extremely lean beef, we just don't each much extremely lean beef.
Does anyone still fail to grasp that this is about centralized control of individual behavior instead of the environment?
Option 1: the published science is actually true. (And since it's all published, you can feel free to replicate the studies and show they are wrong).
Option 2: There is a shadowy cabal that consists of millions of people who all are out to destroy your individuality because of their perverse hatred of you. And despite there being millions of people who participate in this conspiracy, nobody has leaked evidence of the cabal's existence. Including the massive profit that a leaker would receive from all the industries that are desperately searching to discredit everything in this area of research.
One of these options seems just a tad more far-fetched than the other.
What happens when we get to 20 billion and can no longer subsist on soy protein and rice rations?
Birth rates across the planet are dropping. Europe and Japan is already below replacement rate. The US is barely above replacement rate. The places with high birth rate are rapidly falling as we spend more time and effort educating girls.
So, we're probably not going to reach 20 billion, even if we just blunder along our current path. Especially when you consider all the upcoming famines and wars thanks to climate change.
Animal waste is also generally used to fertilise crops, whereas human waste generally is not
Treated sewage is commonly used as fertilizer. My city's waste department does it with most of what comes through the drain pipes.
Treat the sewage -> dump it onto a large concrete pad -> wait for it to dry some (it's still sludge-like consistency) -> put it in a truck and haul it to a farm.
I learned this when part of the city smelled awful one year. We had lots of rain that year, so farmers were not using the sludge because their fields were already too wet. So it was piling up at the treatment plant.
If that's hard with nuclear, then it is even harder with wind and solar etc.
You're talking about pumped hydro, not nuclear.
Also, placement of wind and solar plants is trivially easy.
You definitely need storage with the intermittent generation sources, and you don't have the luxury of certainty (to a point) of availability of energy, therefore you need more of it.
And pumped hydro is an expensive and difficult way to get that storage.
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You can easily see this is true with a quick trip to any jungle, which is both hotter and wetter than most other place on Earth, yet also has the greatest abundance of vegetation...
It's almost like temperature and humidity are different variables. And someday, you might actually understand that. And thus understand why climate change is going to lead to expanding deserts. Hint: It's not all about the temperature.
Both varieties would be harmed by climate change, at least according to the theories in TFS. They both need about the same environment to grow well.
You don't need the alcohol to work as an antiseptic. You need it to work as a preservative. And it works as a preservative at a far lower concentration than as an antiseptic.
After all, that's why things like beer and wine top out at a relatively low alcohol concentration - the alcohol starts killing the yeast.
You've got to be kidding. There are often many alternatives to a given kind of transportation: walk, run, own bike, rent bike, horse, hitchhike, motorcycle, moped, bus, subway, *move to closer location*, decide that the trip wasn't worth whatever they're charging, etc
Because your alternatives are so practical for most people after decades of fucking up our cities due to zoning.
"Hmm...I can't afford an Uber....I know! I'll buy a horse!! Or dig my own subway!!"
The problem with the Walmart example is that the "Then, as sole retailer and sole employer, set the prices and wages you want" never happens.
And as long as you don't actually go looking for any evidence, you can go right along believing this.
Why would you quit if doing so would do nothing to prevent the very thing you objected to?
The DoD is one of Microsoft's largest customers. Why would you go to work for Microsoft if you thought it was wrong for your products to be used for waging war?
How is it a political piece and not an story on ethics?
Because Microsoft sells lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of software to the DoD already. All of it is in service of killing people - that's what the DoD does.
To suddenly be concerned that there could be classified Azure instances would seem like a strange place to draw the line if you were so concerned that your company's software could be used for violence. You'd think their deep non-violent beliefs would also extend to the rest of Microsoft's software.
over half of the potentially economically active Somalians are on welfare.
In the short term. Longer-term, they work. You're getting a flood of refugees so you're getting more people in that short-term situation. Presumably they will end up like previous immigrants who did the exact same thing and ended up working.
Massive brain drain is the future of Western Europe
To where? Those brains going to move to the US and enjoy our low-paid jobs?
Japan's economy is only "in trouble" because of a flawed economic system where everything is expected to continuously grow and keep shareholders happy "or else"
Nope. Japan, like most of the developed world, has a lot of programs to aid seniors. Those programs are paid for by taxes on the two next generations that are still working.
When those next generations are smaller than the one they are supporting, you have a big problem funding those programs.
Also, shrinking populations have problems being sustainable. Because you have fewer workers, your ability to make goods and services shrinks. Which lowers quality of life, and encourages smaller families. Which leads to fewer workers. Which leads to less goods and services. Which lowers quality of life and encourages smaller families. Which leads to fewer workers....
If your policy is utterly detached from reality, AKA science, then you're going to produce bad policy.
Most of them end up in welfare or the exact same work which is disappearing any way because of automation
[Citation Required]
Also, your alternative is to not have enough young people to support your economy, as Japan does.
Also it requires fetal blood to grow
Nope. Earlier versions required fetal serum albumin in the growth media. The way they got it down to $37 per pound is to change the growth media so that it no longer contains FSA.
They don't feed algae to the synthetic meat cells.
Some versions use algae byproducts to produce the media for the cells to grow on.
No, it's relevant for the growth of the meat cells. They need all the proper nutrients
Those nutrients aren't blood. Blood is a transport mechanism for those nutrients in a cow. You don't have to use the same transport mechanism when it's growing in a lab.
For you maybe. I care more about the nutritional value.
Good news! They're already equal in nutritional value.
Population will simply grow until we eat the planet.
Except population growth is leveling off. The developed world is at or below replacement rate (2.1 kids per woman). The places that used to have very high birth rates (>5/woman) now have much lower birth rates (~3/woman) and those birth rates continue to drop.
It turns out there is a way to control population. Educate girls.
And Europe needs those immigrants because the internal birth rate is below replacement rate.
Japan's economy has been in deep trouble for the last few decades because their birth rate is below replacement and they more-or-less do not allow immigration.
As for Africa itself, birth rate is plummeting. It was quite high before, so it still has a ways to go.
Let's assume that particulate carbon increases the retained atmospheric heat.
Why? CO2 isn't "particulate carbon".
b) people switched to cars because they are better.
And one of the primary ways they are better is they do not produce horse manure. And yes, this was actually a perk when cars were first becoming popular.
The point is, we do not need to use the force of government to compel ourselves to change
Sometimes we don't, and sometimes we do. The tragedy of the commons is a real thing and it can't always be fixed by asking nicely.
And this opportunity to force others into doing, what they believe is good, is the real motivation behind the noises being made by "global warming" crowd, 99% of them far-Left partisans.
Nope. There's plenty of people that understand climate change is happening are not "far-Left". Or even "left".
But in the US we have a very large industry that has been created to convince a subset of our population that climate change isn't actually happening. Instead, there's a massive secret cabal out to harm you, personally via an incredibly awkward and inefficient plan. And despite the massive size of this cabal, nobody has leaked proof of its existence. Even though such a leaker would reap massive financial rewards from all the industries that don't want climate change to exist. This also ignores there are far easier and more direct ways to actually accomplish this supposed goal of hurting you, personally.
Despite the fact that this story is about as unrealistic as "NASA faked the moon landing!", it has sold surprisingly well to certain groups who now cling to it as a religious belief.
It doesn't exist yet.
Sure it does. It currently costs $37/lb. Which is just a tiny bit over the $3/lb beef costs.
You have a bunch of muscle cells, and you feed them nutrients that they can live and grow on, and then you eat those cells. Why not skip all of that, and just eat the same nutrients yourself ?
Because 1) humans have difficulty digesting algae, and 2) meat tastes better.
Real meat makes sense, because the muscle cells get fed real cow's blood, with immense complexity of nutrients that we cannot duplicate.
Of course we can duplicate cow's blood. The question is whether it's worth the cost and whether the blood is actually relevant for flavor development (it isn't).
The main issue with synthetic meat at the moment is texture. Getting the meat-to-fat ratio correct while also in the correct structure of the meat isn't easy. Synthetic beef has already "passed" blind taste tests against extremely lean beef, we just don't each much extremely lean beef.
The most effective way to combat climate change with minimal effect on the economy is nuclear power
[Citation Required]
And no, "It just makes sense" is not a citation.
Does anyone still fail to grasp that this is about centralized control of individual behavior instead of the environment?
Option 1: the published science is actually true. (And since it's all published, you can feel free to replicate the studies and show they are wrong).
Option 2: There is a shadowy cabal that consists of millions of people who all are out to destroy your individuality because of their perverse hatred of you. And despite there being millions of people who participate in this conspiracy, nobody has leaked evidence of the cabal's existence. Including the massive profit that a leaker would receive from all the industries that are desperately searching to discredit everything in this area of research.
One of these options seems just a tad more far-fetched than the other.
What happens when we get to 20 billion and can no longer subsist on soy protein and rice rations?
Birth rates across the planet are dropping. Europe and Japan is already below replacement rate. The US is barely above replacement rate. The places with high birth rate are rapidly falling as we spend more time and effort educating girls.
So, we're probably not going to reach 20 billion, even if we just blunder along our current path. Especially when you consider all the upcoming famines and wars thanks to climate change.
Animal waste is also generally used to fertilise crops, whereas human waste generally is not
Treated sewage is commonly used as fertilizer. My city's waste department does it with most of what comes through the drain pipes.
Treat the sewage -> dump it onto a large concrete pad -> wait for it to dry some (it's still sludge-like consistency) -> put it in a truck and haul it to a farm.
I learned this when part of the city smelled awful one year. We had lots of rain that year, so farmers were not using the sludge because their fields were already too wet. So it was piling up at the treatment plant.
This will not replace the fancy full cuts of beef; but, by percentage, that's the small slice of the beef industry.
Ground beef is usually made from the trimmings and other waste when producing the "fancy full cuts".
Turning ground beef into a waste product probably isn't getting us much.
I didn't say it was easy, but easier
The entire point is it is not easier.
If that's hard with nuclear, then it is even harder with wind and solar etc.
You're talking about pumped hydro, not nuclear.
Also, placement of wind and solar plants is trivially easy.
You definitely need storage with the intermittent generation sources, and you don't have the luxury of certainty (to a point) of availability of energy, therefore you need more of it.
And pumped hydro is an expensive and difficult way to get that storage.