I should first note all of the following is IMHO squared...or something...
So I read this paper (quickly) and frankly...I want my time back...
Seems like a hodge-podge of ideas that don't hang together, or even belong together...and I guess to some folks that would be the essence of postmodernism if postmodernism allowed essences....but I think there is a bit more to it than just that.
And they do more than cite Larry Wall's talk...I think they simply lift big conceptual chunks out of it...which I suppose is a sort of postmodern sampling kind of thing, but a stodgy old modernist might be tempted to point out there isn't really much value added in this paper...
So from there I went to the Larry Wall talk (http://www.wall.org/~larry/pm.html) and...well...I want my time back...
His treatment of postmodernism is too glib even for a postmodernist and he gets deconstruction mostly wrong...confusing it I think with reductionism, and seeing it as a linear connection between modernism and postmodernism...I mean if I was sitting around with a bunch of somewhat literate programmers passing a bong it would be the kind of talk that might come up and a good fun time would be had by all...but I somehow expected more...I guess I should be charitable and allow it's a good try for a programmer...
What we are left with is, however, a wonderful opportunity for awkward puns...
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Computer generated art is a subset of Generative Art. There are all manner of related technology and art theory issues.
g a2 003%20proceedings%20paper.pdf
And a lot of smart people already well into the topic...here are a few places to look if you want to really get into it seriously...
My paper "What is Generative Art..."
http://www.philipgalanter.com/pages/acad/media/
The site of the annual Generative Art conference with many more papers and so on...
http://www.generativeart.com/
Home of the generative art discussion list and many many related links...
http://www.generative.net/
jump in, the waters fine!
Phil
I should first note all of the following is IMHO squared...or something...
So I read this paper (quickly) and frankly...I want my time back...
Seems like a hodge-podge of ideas that don't hang together, or even belong together...and I guess to some folks that would be the essence of postmodernism if postmodernism allowed essences....but I think there is a bit more to it than just that.
And they do more than cite Larry Wall's talk...I think they simply lift big conceptual chunks out of it...which I suppose is a sort of postmodern sampling kind of thing, but a stodgy old modernist might be tempted to point out there isn't really much value added in this paper...
So from there I went to the Larry Wall talk (http://www.wall.org/~larry/pm.html) and...well...I want my time back...
His treatment of postmodernism is too glib even for a postmodernist and he gets deconstruction mostly wrong...confusing it I think with reductionism, and seeing it as a linear connection between modernism and postmodernism...I mean if I was sitting around with a bunch of somewhat literate programmers passing a bong it would be the kind of talk that might come up and a good fun time would be had by all...but I somehow expected more...I guess I should be charitable and allow it's a good try for a programmer...
What we are left with is, however, a wonderful opportunity for awkward puns...
I'll toss out a couple out of context...
post-structured programmingism
decompilerist
cheers, Philip
http://philipgalanter.com