What kind of evidence do you expect in a case like this, dumbass? We have the past history of the CIA pulling similar discrediting operations in Cuba and South America, incredible circumstantial evidence, and *highly* unusual behavior from the parties involved. Short of the CIA issuing a formal "Yes, we set him up" press release, that's about as good as you're going to get (well, until about 70 years from now, when it's finally declassified).
But keep your head in the sand, pretending that it was just a coincidence that a few months after releasing one of the largest drops of classified U.S. material in history, Assange suddenly decided to become a rapist.
Excuse me, Sir, but your tinfoil hat has slipped a bit to the side.
There is somewhat of a difference between someone who thinks that aliens at Area 51 are teaming with the CIA to steal his urine--and someone who thinks that the CIA takes covert action against foreign nationals who threaten the security of U.S. confidential information.
Whether he's still active or not, getting him and punishing him is still important to the U.S. because it sends a clear message to anyone thinking of doing something like Wikileaks in the future. "Reveal our secrets, and we WILL get you."
The CIA has apparently gotten away from that (especially with public figures). Public discrediting works just as effectively, doesn't leave behind a martyr, and isn't as obvious. So if some asshole is criticizing the value of the U.S. dollar, you don't send up a guy with a gun to his room, you send up a maid shaking her ass. Much cleaner that any bullet to the head, and just as effective.
Don't flatter yourself, this is hardly some super-elaborate global conspiracy. Setting a dude up with sex is one of the oldest intelligence ploys in the book (the Germans even used it on JFK). And getting a country like Sweden to bow like a lapdog to you when you're the U.S. is hardly a challenge.
Is he really that afraid that he won't get a fair trial - in Sweden?!?
No, he's not *afraid* of it. He *knows* it. This whole thing was such an obvious setup from the get-go that I'm surprised the CIA had the balls to even try it. Shit, even Dominique Strauss-Kahn was less obvious than this mess.
An "intercept" for them was going back and analyzing their recordings, not the actual "making" of the recording.
Combine that with a retroactive warrants and filtering software and it's basically a license to spy on everyone. I can make the recordings on everyone, filter them for keywords, and then read them--and, if I find something, I can get a retroactive warrant saying it was okay for me to listen to it.
The pacific portion of WWII ended because we annihilated two cities
Yeah, except there is just one problem with that Iran = WWII-Japan analogy. Iran never attacked us, isn't at war with us, and has absolutely no imperial ambitions. But other than that, sure, Iran is exactly like Imperial Japan in 1945.
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What kind of evidence do you expect in a case like this, dumbass? We have the past history of the CIA pulling similar discrediting operations in Cuba and South America, incredible circumstantial evidence, and *highly* unusual behavior from the parties involved. Short of the CIA issuing a formal "Yes, we set him up" press release, that's about as good as you're going to get (well, until about 70 years from now, when it's finally declassified).
But keep your head in the sand, pretending that it was just a coincidence that a few months after releasing one of the largest drops of classified U.S. material in history, Assange suddenly decided to become a rapist.
Mozilla discussed that DNT would have no value if enabled by default
Mozilla, who gets about 90% of their income from Google, sides with Google on this one?!? What a shocker!!
I don't give a shit why they're doing it. I'm just glad *someone* is.
I mean, WTF, the W3C is *opposed* to this?!?!? Did Google bribe them or something?
Does anyone have any idea why the W3C opposed this? It seems like a no-brainer.
Never thought I would stand with MS over the W3C, but there you have it.
Are you saying that anything he just said isn't true?
I wonder if there are a bunch of "Why aren't there more men in nursing?" articles over on some Nursing message board.
i don't know of anything that special about Ecuador
Ecuador is one of the very few countries in the world (along with Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, and North Korea) that doesn't kneel before the U.S.
Prove to me that something more nefarious is going on
Sure, Missourian. I'll have Leon Panetta and the Swedish prosecutor stop by your house tonight to brief you on the whole setup.
Excuse me, Sir, but your tinfoil hat has slipped a bit to the side.
There is somewhat of a difference between someone who thinks that aliens at Area 51 are teaming with the CIA to steal his urine--and someone who thinks that the CIA takes covert action against foreign nationals who threaten the security of U.S. confidential information.
Whether he's still active or not, getting him and punishing him is still important to the U.S. because it sends a clear message to anyone thinking of doing something like Wikileaks in the future. "Reveal our secrets, and we WILL get you."
The CIA has apparently gotten away from that (especially with public figures). Public discrediting works just as effectively, doesn't leave behind a martyr, and isn't as obvious. So if some asshole is criticizing the value of the U.S. dollar, you don't send up a guy with a gun to his room, you send up a maid shaking her ass. Much cleaner that any bullet to the head, and just as effective.
the "not wearing a condom" charge
Are you really naive enough to believe that's what ANY of this is about?
I mean, seriously?
Don't flatter yourself, this is hardly some super-elaborate global conspiracy. Setting a dude up with sex is one of the oldest intelligence ploys in the book (the Germans even used it on JFK). And getting a country like Sweden to bow like a lapdog to you when you're the U.S. is hardly a challenge.
Is he really that afraid that he won't get a fair trial - in Sweden?!?
No, he's not *afraid* of it. He *knows* it. This whole thing was such an obvious setup from the get-go that I'm surprised the CIA had the balls to even try it. Shit, even Dominique Strauss-Kahn was less obvious than this mess.
I hope you're being sarcastic.
I'm pretty sure they could sneak him out if they really wanted to. With diplomatic immunity, can the police even stop one of their cars?
Ecuadoran President Rafael Correa is a friend of Venezuela and Cuba--and NO FRIEND of the U.S.
Oh, you think I'm an Obama fan? Don't get me started, pal. Not everyone in this country is either a Democrat or Republican, just idiots like you.
Iran is directly responsible for the deaths of many many US troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan
And how many Iranians died the U.S.-funded coup in 1953? How many of their nuclear scientists have we killed inside their own country?
If you don't think the Persians have ambitions of empire though I have a bridge to sell you.
Iran hasn't invaded a country in hundreds of years. Remind me again how many countries the U.S. Empire has invade in just the last decade?
An "intercept" for them was going back and analyzing their recordings, not the actual "making" of the recording.
Combine that with a retroactive warrants and filtering software and it's basically a license to spy on everyone. I can make the recordings on everyone, filter them for keywords, and then read them--and, if I find something, I can get a retroactive warrant saying it was okay for me to listen to it.
If the rumors of recent upgrades to NSA capability are true, the answer would be "everyone."
Can you imagine Google having the balls to tell the FBI "Sorry, can't hand over anymore info. That would violate our customers' privacy."?
No, I can't either.
Most of the students actually did fine. But Slow Steve screwed them all again.
DAMN YOU SLOW STEVE!!
Except for the whole annihilation of Israel thing
Yeah:
1) I don't believe that for a second. That's bullshit Israeli propaganda if I've ever heard it.
And, most importantly
2) The U.S. *IS NOT* Israel.
The pacific portion of WWII ended because we annihilated two cities
Yeah, except there is just one problem with that Iran = WWII-Japan analogy. Iran never attacked us, isn't at war with us, and has absolutely no imperial ambitions. But other than that, sure, Iran is exactly like Imperial Japan in 1945.