Actually to an extent your freedom does interfere with my non-suckage. You see when RMS goes off ranting and making free software less attractive to those I may need/have to work with, that lessens my ability to use the same software. If he wasn't such a jerk, free software might be more widely accepted than it already is. That would be good for me.
Also those who don't give a damn about freedom do NOT interfere with you despite what you claim. No one is trying to take your freedom away. We just don't want to hear about it 24/7 from nutjobs who make our preferred tools less attractive because of his rantings.
Me might be using Linux because he considers it a better performer than a proprietary OS. That does not mean every application on Linux is better than the proprietary ones. You don't need to buy into the free software philosophy to use it. Its completely and totally unnecessary.
Netinfo and UserManager (now called Users) are still on OS X. But thats only for Mac OS X. Darwin on the other hand since it does not include Aqua allows you to edit things by hand using: niload(8), nidump(8), nigrep(1), nifind(1), nireport(1)....etc. Actually Mac OS X lets you do this too. You can install Darwin by itself and since there's no Aqua, there's no chance you'd run into anything like you did on NextStep. XFree86 also works fine on both Darwin and Mac OS X. In any case check out: http://publicsource.apple.com/ and look around. Read the "Ask the Darwin team" pieces they are fun. And if you get confused, for some strange reason Apple jumped the version number of Darwin from 1.4 to 5.1. Weird. Here's what my Mac OS X 10.1.1 gives me back for a uname -a:
Darwin Alexander 5.1 Darwin Kernel Version 5.1: Tue Oct 30 00:06:34 PST 2001; root:xnu/xnu-201.5.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
Mac OS X has come a long way since it was NextSTEP. You can install the Unix parts on its own (that would be just Darwin) and at http://fink.sourceforge.net there's a package manager for OS X/Darwin called Fink. It incorporates some Debian tools such as apt-get and dpkg to help you compile or install binaries, but in the oh so easy it downloads and automates the stuff for you. And since I log into my OS X box all the time I don't really know whats so much harder to manage about it that you seem to mention.
No, staying at 2.2 for two years does not mean its stable. Anyone could stick with a two year old kernel. Debian needs to put a 2.4 kernel out as stable before I'll call them anything but amateurs.
That only works when you like to make excuses for others. There is no testing branch. There's only stable and development and there's no excuse for 2.4 being so unstable. Quit making excuses.
You DO know that if you want a Linux thats been thru a QA process you use the professional distro's such as RH, Suse or Mandrake and leave the amateur distro's such as Debian and Slackware alone right?
This is your 4th post I have seen here so far and I think thats more than enough for today. I'm sure you have some other people to look down on and to condescend to, perhaps on IRC or in real life. Get busy!
You sir have won the award for the most snobbish behavior on Slashdot. Your incorrect feelings of superiority raise the bar for all of us, and for that sir I thank you.
Considering Tuvok on Voyager spoke of Vulcan's dislike of Humanity's eagerness to wish everyone in the galaxy was just like them I don't think the dissonance between early Vulcans and Humans was so contrived.
Its not all soulless. Sometimes people just want a job where they don't have to deal with the "good ol boys" knocking back a few and then being as obnoxious as they can be and the next day expecting you to brush it off when they say "Hey it was all in good fun, don't be such a tightass!"
Don't want to rain on your parade or anything but IQ isn't the sole judge of intelligence. And what do you do, ask all the people you get close to, "Whats your IQ"?
Ok I just caught you said "societies" does that mean those ivy league University clubs? I'm forming a profile of you now.....
Mac OS X is just as easy to use for newcomers as the old Mac OS was. I don't know why people keep insisting it isn't just because there is an command line you can or can not choose to use.
Do you have lots of friends, cause it sounds like you quibble over the smallest of details. Apple provides all the open source software they use as a download either as Darwin or in the Mac OS X Developer Tools. If you want it in some other form, tough cookies.
How about you switch to Linux or BSD if you want to, and you stick to what you already have if you don't? There's nothing to prove either way so quit trying to bait us into arguing with you.
Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSe are RPM based (Red Hat Package Manager) distro's. RPM sucks. There's no other way to put it. Its awkward to have to manually remove or install a piece of software AND all of its dependencies by hand with RPM.
Thus I have moved onto Debian where package management is g00d. Learn about Debian's apt-get. And if you can actually get Debian installed, you'll be happy.
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Bored you may be, it doesn't make it untrue.
Actually to an extent your freedom does interfere with my non-suckage. You see when RMS goes off ranting and making free software less attractive to those I may need/have to work with, that lessens my ability to use the same software. If he wasn't such a jerk, free software might be more widely accepted than it already is. That would be good for me.
Also those who don't give a damn about freedom do NOT interfere with you despite what you claim. No one is trying to take your freedom away. We just don't want to hear about it 24/7 from nutjobs who make our preferred tools less attractive because of his rantings.
Me might be using Linux because he considers it a better performer than a proprietary OS. That does not mean every application on Linux is better than the proprietary ones. You don't need to buy into the free software philosophy to use it. Its completely and totally unnecessary.
2.0.x is still being maintained as well. So whats that make it, the extra-stable branch? :P
Netinfo and UserManager (now called Users) are still on OS X. But thats only for Mac OS X. Darwin on the other hand since it does not include Aqua allows you to edit things by hand using: niload(8), nidump(8), nigrep(1), nifind(1), nireport(1)....etc. Actually Mac OS X lets you do this too. You can install Darwin by itself and since there's no Aqua, there's no chance you'd run into anything like you did on NextStep. XFree86 also works fine on both Darwin and Mac OS X. In any case check out: http://publicsource.apple.com/ and look around. Read the "Ask the Darwin team" pieces they are fun. And if you get confused, for some strange reason Apple jumped the version number of Darwin from 1.4 to 5.1. Weird. Here's what my Mac OS X 10.1.1 gives me back for a uname -a:
Darwin Alexander 5.1 Darwin Kernel Version 5.1: Tue Oct 30 00:06:34 PST 2001; root:xnu/xnu-201.5.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
Mac OS X has come a long way since it was NextSTEP. You can install the Unix parts on its own (that would be just Darwin) and at http://fink.sourceforge.net there's a package manager for OS X/Darwin called Fink. It incorporates some Debian tools such as apt-get and dpkg to help you compile or install binaries, but in the oh so easy it downloads and automates the stuff for you. And since I log into my OS X box all the time I don't really know whats so much harder to manage about it that you seem to mention.
No, staying at 2.2 for two years does not mean its stable. Anyone could stick with a two year old kernel. Debian needs to put a 2.4 kernel out as stable before I'll call them anything but amateurs.
That only works when you like to make excuses for others. There is no testing branch. There's only stable and development and there's no excuse for 2.4 being so unstable. Quit making excuses.
You DO know that if you want a Linux thats been thru a QA process you use the professional distro's such as RH, Suse or Mandrake and leave the amateur distro's such as Debian and Slackware alone right?
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Lets keep it real simple now.
Fiction = Not reality
Non-fiction = Reality
Science fiction = Sci fi but still not reality.
So yes sci-fi is an escape from reality. Your refusal to except that does not change anything.
This is your 4th post I have seen here so far and I think thats more than enough for today. I'm sure you have some other people to look down on and to condescend to, perhaps on IRC or in real life. Get busy!
You sir have won the award for the most snobbish behavior on Slashdot. Your incorrect feelings of superiority raise the bar for all of us, and for that sir I thank you.
Considering Tuvok on Voyager spoke of Vulcan's dislike of Humanity's eagerness to wish everyone in the galaxy was just like them I don't think the dissonance between early Vulcans and Humans was so contrived.
Its not all soulless. Sometimes people just want a job where they don't have to deal with the "good ol boys" knocking back a few and then being as obnoxious as they can be and the next day expecting you to brush it off when they say "Hey it was all in good fun, don't be such a tightass!"
Don't want to rain on your parade or anything but IQ isn't the sole judge of intelligence. And what do you do, ask all the people you get close to, "Whats your IQ"?
Ok I just caught you said "societies" does that mean those ivy league University clubs? I'm forming a profile of you now.....
You know of the spice melange? Do you come from Arrakkis? Or do you know it as Dune? Hmmmm
Mac OS X is just as easy to use for newcomers as the old Mac OS was. I don't know why people keep insisting it isn't just because there is an command line you can or can not choose to use.
Do you have lots of friends, cause it sounds like you quibble over the smallest of details. Apple provides all the open source software they use as a download either as Darwin or in the Mac OS X Developer Tools. If you want it in some other form, tough cookies.
I did have Mandrake but never checked that urpmi thing out. Can it upgrade the entire distro like apt-get can?
I just installed FBSD last nite and I like what I see. So now I get to compare Debian's and FreeBSD's packaging systems side-by-side. :)
How about you switch to Linux or BSD if you want to, and you stick to what you already have if you don't? There's nothing to prove either way so quit trying to bait us into arguing with you.
Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSe are RPM based (Red Hat Package Manager) distro's. RPM sucks. There's no other way to put it. Its awkward to have to manually remove or install a piece of software AND all of its dependencies by hand with RPM.
Thus I have moved onto Debian where package management is g00d. Learn about Debian's apt-get. And if you can actually get Debian installed, you'll be happy.
Thats what we let them believe. :)
There's nothing stopping an antisocial weirdo from setting up a Windows based network that is restrictive to the point of absolute idiocy.