All I have to say is that people love the show and it does influence people. You don't have to believe me but there's plenty of history (for other types of shows and movies) proving otherwise. "Fast and Furious" is the most obvious one I can come up with as it created a increase presence of street racing in the early 2000.
The way I see it you are way too deep into this... I'll leave you to it because you've overcomplicated something so simple.
I'm telling you by experience. I'm not just spitting out stuff. I have hundreds of Windows 7 installs under my belt. I don't recall one install causing me issues.
I'm just curious. Are you telling me that Ubuntu installed with no additional configuration? I have friends that eat Linux for breakfast and they do not hesitate to tell me there is no straight forward installation. Sometimes it's easier but if you want a smooth running machine you need to do a little bit of tweaking.
I guess my point is that even if the ideal drivers aren't installed on Windows 7 in every case, at least it runs enough to get going where as Ubuntu I had to use the terminal to get the OS fully working. At the end of the day I always get them working if I really want to.
There's another component that I excluded. I am far more versed into the setup of Windows machines so the installation of a driver on Windows for me is a piece of cake whereas a Linux driver installed always feels like a lot of work to me. Is it lack of experience? My friends Linux buddies don't seem to think so.
I'd like to also point out that I did a setup for a company that provides on site services. They wanted a box to perform the recording of data using an SNMP connector. This connector was Linux compatible so I suggested a small x86 box that would cost less than $300 and was certified to run Ubuntu 12 and Windows XP/7. For obvious reasons I pushed for Ubuntu 12 to save the $99 / box since many would be deployed. The end result was countless hours spent trying to make Ubuntu 12 run efficiently on a box that was apparently certified to run. The initial impression wasn't very good so I assumed drivers needed to be installed since the performance of the box was SLOW. I got the box to run a little faster but it wasn't impressive by any means. Got remote access working after some tinkering (This was supposed to be built-in according to the documentation but the option shown in the documentation didn't exist in my installation). The customer felt the remote access speed was slow but what he didn't know is that was the same speed locally.
After hours of trial/error and communication with the community I decided to cut my loses and tried to get Windows 7 running. Got it going very quickly and the drivers were easy to find and get working. Although the boot up was double the of the Ubuntu installation once running it was 4 times more responsive so I pushed that final solution through. A few months after I got my Linux buddies to look at it and we even re-installed the software from scratch in case my incompetence screwed something up. Long behold they could not figure out the problem either.
That's probably the one experience that left a bad taste in my mouth amongst some of the lesser important ones.
1. I know you've never done a brake job because you wouldn't have had to copy this off a web site 2. Would you expect any car user to do this themselves? 3. Some of the simpler but critical parts of the procedure are missing
One very important step missed in the procedure: Before reinstalling pads you must clean the pad pathways and re-lubricate it.
No performing this step will result in stick brakes which will cause: - Wheel noise - Premature pad wear - Premature rotor wear
Good for you. Not my experience on many more computers than what you've done and many other users seem to share my experience including some users on/.
A person who assumes anything computer related is easy for a non-technical users should not be allowed to make suggestions on what is right for home users.
I consider changing disk brake rotors, pads and calipers easy. Can you give me the steps? Please don't skid any because I'm going to call you on it.
I wanted to add that respect probably covers most of what you guys pointed out. If the simple practice of respect is applied by everybody, everywhere there would be very little concern here.
That's hilarious. I just got a call from my niece because she started school and she is running a ASUS laptop with Ubuntu. She needs to put Windows on it because the online tools used at the school are only IE compatible due to Active X.
My experience was identical to yours. With the amount of troubleshooting and driver research I had to do I could have purchased 10 copies of Windows 7.
My information is not dated at all actually. Check my other post. I'm 0/5 with Ubuntu (that's version 12 and 14) and 5/5 with Windows 7. I must be the luckiest person when it comes to Linux failure. Don't take me wrong. I can go in terminal mode and get things working but do you expect home users to do this? I'll be happy to post a video of the two laptops I still have at home since they aren't being used. I'll image them and re-install Ubuntu 14 and you'll see. When it takes you 30 seconds between clicks because the generic video drivers aren't good enough, the user says F*** IT!
The other argument here is that NOBODY cares. The home PC era is dying. Linux or Window won't matter anymore. If you don't see this then I'm the one who has to call you dated.
Happy that worked for you. Wasn't the case for me or anybody in my entourage. Don't take me wrong, once working it works but getting there never seems to be a straight line.
What era do you live in? I've been using Ubuntu since inception and, since the second or third release, it's been better with hardware than Windows. I never really look at the HCL. This is distinctly different from Mandrake 7.2 trying to figure out if I need ALSA or OSS and then not getting either to actually play sound (and then sound suddenly stops working why?).
3 different laptops (within 5 years of age), and 2 desktops (also within 5 years of age). Not one was Ubuntu install was good enough for using as a daily computer. Some didn't install network drivers, some were slow due to graphic drivers not being installed. Top that with the update manager failing to install updates and just stopping mid session. Add to this random exceptions popping up when left idle for a long period of time. In every single case these were clean installs on a clean drives. I then got the drivers that needed to be installed and that was no easy task because in many cases manufacturers don't have Linux drivers on their site so you need to find the drivers on your own by researching the community.
One the same 5 machine, installing Windows 7 got them 100% up and running with very decent performance. Graphic card drivers for laptops were non issues for the desktops I just picked up drivers on the manufacturer's site.
Maybe I was just unlucky to hit 0/5 against Ubuntu and 5/5 for Windows 7
How do you think Windows became the de-facto home operating system?
That worked out in their favor back then because it was the beginning of the PC era but now the home computer standard has been set and changing it 0.001% at a time is hard work. Look at how much trouble MS is having in the mobile market and their phone is better than most in the same price range. So users always fall back to what they have always known. But honestly the PC era the way we know it today is on it's way out. Home users won't be picking an OS, they will be picking a device the same way they buy a television. The OS is like the engine of a car. Most users don't care about the engine itself, they care about the general specifications of the vehicle and it's features.
Software is math but you could also say the same about anything that was ever invented. At the end of the day everything is math.
One of my observations over years of watching and listening to software patent trolling is that nobody makes the difference between actual research and the coding. Coding is coding and implementing an existing concept to another existing concept is just more coding UNLESS research is required to achieve the final objective. The key here is that there should be an amount of research required to qualify for a patent. I don't claim to know much about patent qualification but I do know that you need to provide proof of research, trial & error as well as a prototype in the form drawing or schematics.
The price tag is important but what is more important is that people that are given high levels of power are also held accountable for abuse. The presence of a camera alone will deter cops from applying excessive force and abusing their power. Some say this was tried in LA and failed but only because it wasn't properly implemented.
I think the cost of the equipment will be offset by the reduction of abuse and crime tied to police. I cannot provide proof but I can almost guarantee society as a whole will benefit from the increased accountability.
Thank you for the compliment. It's the best one I got today.
Stereotypes and the people they apply to ARE distinct but I guess you aren't mentally advanced enough to understand the different. I guess you're very much like Penny's old boyfriend Zack in BBT.
And the fudge packing (as a general category) is very often used in comedy. Maybe you fudge pack a lot and my comment made you blush. But don't worry, we don't judge.
Fact is too many people appear offended by a simple show meant to entertain with no harmful intentions. If anything, they portray bullies as primates so everybody is getting a piece of the pie. People offended by the show need to take that stick out of their asses.
I'm of the same opinion as you. I love the show and I was victim of some of these stereotypes portrayed on the show. The show helps display what nerds/geeks go through in real life. I think it does more good than harm. The reality is that we all somewhat grow out of it while still enjoying portion of what made us nerds/geeks in the first place.
Today nerds/geeks are not viewed the same way as before. They aren't picked on at school and they are rather a fairly large percentage of the student population. Fact is that lots of the people who picked on nerds/geeks now work for them.
It doesn't teach to laugh at geeks and nerds. It laughs at the stereotypes tied to geeks and nerds. When we make fudge packing references do we laugh at homosexuals? The answer is no.
I was a geek/nerd in high school and although I relate to many of the stereotypes they are mostly exaggerated and intended for comedy. I find this show helps makes geeks and nerds look cool.
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So your telling me there's a difference between putting intellectual knowledge in a computer program versus on paper?
At the end of the day research is research. Whether is results in a material good or not is irrelevant.
All I have to say is that people love the show and it does influence people. You don't have to believe me but there's plenty of history (for other types of shows and movies) proving otherwise. "Fast and Furious" is the most obvious one I can come up with as it created a increase presence of street racing in the early 2000.
The way I see it you are way too deep into this... I'll leave you to it because you've overcomplicated something so simple.
I'm telling you by experience. I'm not just spitting out stuff. I have hundreds of Windows 7 installs under my belt. I don't recall one install causing me issues.
I'm just curious. Are you telling me that Ubuntu installed with no additional configuration? I have friends that eat Linux for breakfast and they do not hesitate to tell me there is no straight forward installation. Sometimes it's easier but if you want a smooth running machine you need to do a little bit of tweaking.
I guess my point is that even if the ideal drivers aren't installed on Windows 7 in every case, at least it runs enough to get going where as Ubuntu I had to use the terminal to get the OS fully working. At the end of the day I always get them working if I really want to.
There's another component that I excluded. I am far more versed into the setup of Windows machines so the installation of a driver on Windows for me is a piece of cake whereas a Linux driver installed always feels like a lot of work to me. Is it lack of experience? My friends Linux buddies don't seem to think so.
I'd like to also point out that I did a setup for a company that provides on site services. They wanted a box to perform the recording of data using an SNMP connector. This connector was Linux compatible so I suggested a small x86 box that would cost less than $300 and was certified to run Ubuntu 12 and Windows XP/7. For obvious reasons I pushed for Ubuntu 12 to save the $99 / box since many would be deployed. The end result was countless hours spent trying to make Ubuntu 12 run efficiently on a box that was apparently certified to run. The initial impression wasn't very good so I assumed drivers needed to be installed since the performance of the box was SLOW. I got the box to run a little faster but it wasn't impressive by any means. Got remote access working after some tinkering (This was supposed to be built-in according to the documentation but the option shown in the documentation didn't exist in my installation). The customer felt the remote access speed was slow but what he didn't know is that was the same speed locally.
After hours of trial/error and communication with the community I decided to cut my loses and tried to get Windows 7 running. Got it going very quickly and the drivers were easy to find and get working. Although the boot up was double the of the Ubuntu installation once running it was 4 times more responsive so I pushed that final solution through. A few months after I got my Linux buddies to look at it and we even re-installed the software from scratch in case my incompetence screwed something up. Long behold they could not figure out the problem either.
That's probably the one experience that left a bad taste in my mouth amongst some of the lesser important ones.
1. I know you've never done a brake job because you wouldn't have had to copy this off a web site
2. Would you expect any car user to do this themselves?
3. Some of the simpler but critical parts of the procedure are missing
One very important step missed in the procedure:
Before reinstalling pads you must clean the pad pathways and re-lubricate it.
No performing this step will result in stick brakes which will cause:
- Wheel noise
- Premature pad wear
- Premature rotor wear
Good for you. Not my experience on many more computers than what you've done and many other users seem to share my experience including some users on /.
A person who assumes anything computer related is easy for a non-technical users should not be allowed to make suggestions on what is right for home users.
I consider changing disk brake rotors, pads and calipers easy. Can you give me the steps? Please don't skid any because I'm going to call you on it.
I wanted to add that respect probably covers most of what you guys pointed out. If the simple practice of respect is applied by everybody, everywhere there would be very little concern here.
That's hilarious. I just got a call from my niece because she started school and she is running a ASUS laptop with Ubuntu. She needs to put Windows on it because the online tools used at the school are only IE compatible due to Active X.
My experience was identical to yours. With the amount of troubleshooting and driver research I had to do I could have purchased 10 copies of Windows 7.
My information is not dated at all actually. Check my other post. I'm 0/5 with Ubuntu (that's version 12 and 14) and 5/5 with Windows 7. I must be the luckiest person when it comes to Linux failure. Don't take me wrong. I can go in terminal mode and get things working but do you expect home users to do this? I'll be happy to post a video of the two laptops I still have at home since they aren't being used. I'll image them and re-install Ubuntu 14 and you'll see. When it takes you 30 seconds between clicks because the generic video drivers aren't good enough, the user says F*** IT!
The other argument here is that NOBODY cares. The home PC era is dying. Linux or Window won't matter anymore. If you don't see this then I'm the one who has to call you dated.
Happy that worked for you. Wasn't the case for me or anybody in my entourage. Don't take me wrong, once working it works but getting there never seems to be a straight line.
What era do you live in? I've been using Ubuntu since inception and, since the second or third release, it's been better with hardware than Windows. I never really look at the HCL. This is distinctly different from Mandrake 7.2 trying to figure out if I need ALSA or OSS and then not getting either to actually play sound (and then sound suddenly stops working why?).
3 different laptops (within 5 years of age), and 2 desktops (also within 5 years of age). Not one was Ubuntu install was good enough for using as a daily computer. Some didn't install network drivers, some were slow due to graphic drivers not being installed. Top that with the update manager failing to install updates and just stopping mid session. Add to this random exceptions popping up when left idle for a long period of time. In every single case these were clean installs on a clean drives. I then got the drivers that needed to be installed and that was no easy task because in many cases manufacturers don't have Linux drivers on their site so you need to find the drivers on your own by researching the community.
One the same 5 machine, installing Windows 7 got them 100% up and running with very decent performance. Graphic card drivers for laptops were non issues for the desktops I just picked up drivers on the manufacturer's site.
Maybe I was just unlucky to hit 0/5 against Ubuntu and 5/5 for Windows 7
How do you think Windows became the de-facto home operating system?
That worked out in their favor back then because it was the beginning of the PC era but now the home computer standard has been set and changing it 0.001% at a time is hard work. Look at how much trouble MS is having in the mobile market and their phone is better than most in the same price range. So users always fall back to what they have always known. But honestly the PC era the way we know it today is on it's way out. Home users won't be picking an OS, they will be picking a device the same way they buy a television. The OS is like the engine of a car. Most users don't care about the engine itself, they care about the general specifications of the vehicle and it's features.
Software is math but you could also say the same about anything that was ever invented. At the end of the day everything is math.
One of my observations over years of watching and listening to software patent trolling is that nobody makes the difference between actual research and the coding. Coding is coding and implementing an existing concept to another existing concept is just more coding UNLESS research is required to achieve the final objective. The key here is that there should be an amount of research required to qualify for a patent. I don't claim to know much about patent qualification but I do know that you need to provide proof of research, trial & error as well as a prototype in the form drawing or schematics.
That's fine as long as everything is done for the user. There's nothing easy about getting various H/W setup on Linux even with the best distro.
And this is an option that is only valid if they want to do the same things they do at the office which is probably not the case.
The price tag is important but what is more important is that people that are given high levels of power are also held accountable for abuse. The presence of a camera alone will deter cops from applying excessive force and abusing their power. Some say this was tried in LA and failed but only because it wasn't properly implemented.
I think the cost of the equipment will be offset by the reduction of abuse and crime tied to police. I cannot provide proof but I can almost guarantee society as a whole will benefit from the increased accountability.
Thank you for the compliment. It's the best one I got today.
Stereotypes and the people they apply to ARE distinct but I guess you aren't mentally advanced enough to understand the different. I guess you're very much like Penny's old boyfriend Zack in BBT.
And the fudge packing (as a general category) is very often used in comedy. Maybe you fudge pack a lot and my comment made you blush. But don't worry, we don't judge.
I agree with everything you said.
Fact is too many people appear offended by a simple show meant to entertain with no harmful intentions. If anything, they portray bullies as primates so everybody is getting a piece of the pie. People offended by the show need to take that stick out of their asses.
One of the many definitions of perverted.
perverted - having an intended meaning altered or misrepresented; "many of the facts seemed twisted out of any semblance to reality"
He didn't giggle when he asked the question so I knew he wasn't a nerd.
I'm of the same opinion as you. I love the show and I was victim of some of these stereotypes portrayed on the show. The show helps display what nerds/geeks go through in real life. I think it does more good than harm. The reality is that we all somewhat grow out of it while still enjoying portion of what made us nerds/geeks in the first place.
Today nerds/geeks are not viewed the same way as before. They aren't picked on at school and they are rather a fairly large percentage of the student population. Fact is that lots of the people who picked on nerds/geeks now work for them.
You have to watch the show since Sheldon explains why in one of the episodes.
I'm not touching you keyboard because I know where it's been.
It doesn't teach to laugh at geeks and nerds. It laughs at the stereotypes tied to geeks and nerds. When we make fudge packing references do we laugh at homosexuals? The answer is no.
I was a geek/nerd in high school and although I relate to many of the stereotypes they are mostly exaggerated and intended for comedy. I find this show helps makes geeks and nerds look cool.
You're not a geek or a nerd. You're a perv.