So - you want to carry around the following gadets (all having a single feature):
Cellphone.
Phonebook (cellphone can't have that - that'd be convergence).
GPS-device.
MP3-player.
CD-player.
WMA-player.
OGG-player.
DVD-player.
PDA-like device, that can only be used for text-documents.
Etc, etc, etc.
Of course, you can easily upgrade your devices whenever needed, but really - just how annoying would it be to carry around all that stuff?
I'd prefer a single device, that could easily be upgraded via software; some stuff, like e.g. the GPS would have to be hardwired in the system, but various codecs and programs should be easy to install.
[Lt. Steven Hauk uses Army jargon to refer to a press conference to be given by former Vice-President Nixon.]
Adrian Cronauer: Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause of the leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.
Because that would mean that liability would no longer apply, making a whole lot of lawyers unemployed.
How come the US judicial system doesn't demand that you use common sence? Should it really be nescesary to write "keep out of children"(*) on a warning label for a kitchen knife?
*No, I didn't leave any words out of the sentence.
Re:there's oil on the moon and mars
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That explains why the moon is lit up all the time. There are actually aliens pumping oil from the moon already, and the light we see is all the surplus oil/gas being burnt off. That explains so much! Thank you for making it very clear to me.
Ja, jeg siger sgu også mange tak til den skide imperialist. Han skal da bare fortsætte med den fair analogi, så Bill kan tage på en rejse i en banan?
Hvad fanden betyder "Mange donc d'la marde mon ostie d'impérialiste. Continue de faire des analogies à la con, je suis sur que Bill va t'envoyer un beau nanane!" egentligt?
Would someone please translate "Mange donc d'la marde mon ostie d'impérialiste. Continue de faire des analogies à la con, je suis sur que Bill va t'envoyer un beau nanane!" into english?
"Oh, yeah, before I forget-there's freedom of religion as long as you're Lutheran. If your Jewish like me, well, you can still have that Seder but your taxes go to the Lutheran church, not to your synagogue."
Hmm... well - I don't know about the other scandinavian countries, but in Denmark (where I live) none of my muslim friends pay any kind of taxes to the lutheran church (well, one of them does, because he'd like support the church as a part of danish culture). While it is true that most people in Denmark pays taxes to the lutheran church, this has a good reason: if you are baptized in a lutheran church (as a baby), you are automatically signed up as a member of the church, and "billed" for your membership through taxes. This isn't really a problem, because if you don't want to pay this tax (0,7 percent I think), you just resign your membership of the church.
I don't know if this is the same for other churches, but I don't see why it shouldn't/couldn't be.
As for the
"And your thing about evolution is about fifty years out of date. No particular cosmological theory is mandated in any state's law, but the courts (Federal, meaning they apply to every single state) have been extremely unfriendly to anything that looks like Biblical creationism in any public (tax-supported) school."
Well - having done a little bit of research, it appears that I was a bit wrong - states can't ban the teachings of evolution (Supreme Court Decision - Epperson v. Arkansas), but that isn't stopping the "creationists". Oh by the way - the reason the courts are upset about the teaching of creation, is the seperation of State and Church (don't ask me why they're so vehemently against it - I don't really see why you can't tell people about various creation theories).
"June 17, 1998 -- Open any biology textbook used in Alabama's public schools and you'll find pasted to the front cover a disclaimer casting doubt on the words within."
Okay, so it's three years old, but still disturbing.
http://www.aip.org/pt/vol-53/iss-10/p73a.html
"Staver was a cochair of the 27-member committee of science teachers, educators, and scientists that two years ago wrote a lengthy set of standards for K12 science education in Kansas. The board adopted the standards, but only after voting 6 to 4 to revise them and cut all references to Darwinian evolution, the Big Bang, the age of both the universe and Earth, and, curiously, global warming."
Well, it's back in (which is a good thing), but it was still ousted two years ago.
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/26/news-wertheim. sh tml
"May 18 - 24, 2001
Alas, poor Darwin. Probably no scientist in history has been more hated than this mild- mannered Englishman. Last week saw yet another twist in the war on his theory of evolution when the state of Louisiana decided that this famous theory was racist. "Be it resolved that the Legislature of Louisiana does hereby deplore all instances and ideologies of racism, and does hereby reject the core concepts of Darwinist ideology that certain races and classes of humans are inherently superior to others," reads a resolution approved by the state's House Education Committee on May 1."
Shudder - what's next? Language being banned, because it can be used to communicate "bad" things?
"We're not smart enough or cultured enough to be Europeans."
At least you got that right - that's why we kicked you out in the first place;-)
How about... uhm... probably every scandinavian country?
Oh yeah - before I forget, they also have freedom of speach. And religion. And the right to teach people what ever you want, unlike some US state(s?) that prohibits the teachings of evolution.
You were implying, that the US is somekind of beacon or bastion of freedom, and all other countries are hopelessly totalitatian in comparison? If so, you should probably do some checking up on the current political climate in more or less the entire world, and not just stick with the notion, that all other countries are ruled by some kind of dictatorship.
Some people ought to spend less time proving their ignorance and more time getting their heads out of their asses.
Reminds me of something I saw in an emergency room
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I'd crashed on my bike (again - don't ask), and was being checked by a nurse. A kid is lying in a bed a few meters away, with both arms and legs in casts. He had a conversation with a passing nurse. It went something like this:
Her: "What happened to you?"
Him: "I fell out a window."
Her: "How far up were you?"
Him: "2nd floor."
Her: "It must have hurt a lot falling out the window."
Him: "No - didn't hurt at all."
Her: "Oh come now. You've broken your arms and legs. It must've hurt a lot."
Him: "No, it didn't hurt falling out the windows. The landing was a bit tricky though."
I couldn't help but laughing out really loud, cause the kid couldn't have been more than 10 or 11, and he showed both a very good sence of humour and a fairly precise knowledge of how to use the language.
The nurses of course couldn't see the humour in his joke, and didn't think I was very polite by laughing at the kid. Grown-ups.
The United States of America is 9,372,143 km^2
Alaska is 1,518,800 km^2
Texas is 692,405 km^2
Arizona is 295,024 km^2
The Atlantic Ocean is 82,362,000 km^2
Europe is 10,360,000 km^2
Denmark (my home country) is a measly 43,069 km^2
Great Britain is 244,044 km^2
Germany is 356,733 km^2
France is 547,026 km^2
The Pacific Ocean is 181,300,000 km^2
Australia is 7,686,810 km^2
Greenland (the largest island in the world) is 2,175,600 km^2
Hmm... lemme see if I can answer that, even though I'm no linux-buff (I use FreeBSD at home, but I suck at that as well).
If I want to be sure that I have removed a program completely, it's impossible to be sure, since there are now 1999 files in/usr/bin. "But the package-remover takes care of that.". Are you sure? If it's even close the the standard of the windows uninstaller, it'll leave a ton of files lying around... just in case.
Compare it to your messy bedroom (if you take offence, compare it to my messy bedroom instead): Even though I know where everything is (more or less), it's still a mess and it takes me some time to find all my dirty laundry. With a messy/usr/bin, it takes alot of time finding the one ini-file you need to modify. Is it called xyz, xzy, yxz, yzx, zxy or zyx?
I'm sure people more skilled in linux/bsd/whatever can come up with better reasons than this, but you even came up with an answer yourself: "satisfying someone's overeager sense of order".
You obviously don't like order and just have everything placed in /... right?
Most people haven't read the article it seems. Allow me to copy the follow-up:
A few followups
The response to this commentary has been large and I've gotten a ton of emails, (mostly positive). A few things I think I should clarify. First of all, this seems to only be an issue in RH based systems - many Slackware and Suse users emailed me to say that their systems try to do the right thing. Second of all a few angry people questioned my qualifications to make the above commentary, and one person even called me a novice! Many people know who I am and that I've been involved in Linux for years, but I figure since most editorials state the author's experience I might as well, too. I'm a Unix and Windows developer, have certifications in HP-UX Systems Administration and Tru64 cluster management (TruCluster), and have been a either a Unix admin or developer since college. I've worked on free software for about 3 years and have been a Linux user since the 0.9x days. Last of all, a few users say I should just use RPM, usually stating something along the lines that I'm stupid and don't know how to use it. Nothing can be further from the case: I have a lot of experience with RPM both from a user experience and creating quite a few RPMs for Linux distributions in the past. Just because you have a package manager is no excuse for sloppy and lazy directory management.
Seriously though, I'm the youngest coworker at a company at 24 (and three quarters!!), where the second youngest guy is 31 and the average age is 43.
They all have spouces - I just have a crush on my neighbour.
They have friends - I just have the Internet.
They talk politics, I cream them at those discussions (see number 2) because I apparently know more about the subjects at hand.
When we hang around at fridays sucking down a cold beer, they usually discuss the finer points of engineering or the lates fashion in drainage grates (no kidding).
Did I mention I'm the only computer guy at a small engineering company? My experience is that computergeeks and other people just don't mix. But then again, I'm just a social dropout, who don't have any friends, and don't even have the guts to invite his neighbour out (and no, it's not because I'm some 5', 350 pound, zit-faced geek who would be able to compete on http://amIUglyOrWhat.com - I clean up quite nicely).
Does anyone know where you can get a spine-transplant?
Hmm... let's see. My father uses his computer at home (Windows) mainly to suft the web, check his email and write a few letters. Seeing how he can barely remember my email address, let alone the name of his email program (outlook express), I don't see how it would be faster for him (and millions others like him) to use a cli. Just to add insult to injury, he types at aprox 20 chars per minute. Not alot of fun trying to start your email client with
progra~1\Outloo~1\msimn.exe "mailto:hektor@somewhere.com" "subject=how do I start this program without having to type in these long commands?"
But then again, you probably knew that already, but think that people who can't tuchtype more than 250 chars per minute and can remember the most stupid and awk-ward [pun intended] commands should just get grep [pun intended].
Life is too short for not using the right tool for the job. Or do you do all of your painting with a cli-tool?
Yeah - it's probably gonna fade away into the quite world of oblivion beside the Amiga, but the BeOS filesystem actually has this VERY neat and usefull metadata. E.g. with standard mp3's, the filesystem knows that those files has ID3 tags, and add those to the metadata for the file. Same with tons of other file types. And you can add/remove metadata for file types at a whim. And change what application opens what kinds of files (based on MIME type of course, not extention).
"I thought that tests have shown that GUI`s are inefficient and that typing is the way forward? Isnt all this a waste of time?"
Hmm... let's see. My father uses his computer at home (Windows) mainly to suft the web, check his email and write a few letters. Seeing how he can barely remember my email address, let alone the name of his email program (outlook express), I don't see how it would be faster for him (and millions others like him) to use a cli. Just to add insult to injury, he types at aprox 20 chars per minute. Not alot of fun trying to start your email client with
progra~1\Outloo~1\msimn.exe "mailto:hektor@somewhere.com" subject="how do I start this program without having to type in these long commands?"
But then again, you probably knew that already, but think that people who can't tuchtype more than 250 chars per minute and can remember the most stupid and awk-ward [pun intended] commands should just get grep [pun intended].
Life is too short for not using the right tool for the job. Or do you do all of your painting with a cli-tool?
Well... I didn't think there were 3d-drivers for any cards under FreeBSD. But then again, I've only checked for nVidia, and they only hand out binaries due to licensed code in the drivers, that they don't want to give out (for obvious reasons).
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So - you want to carry around the following gadets (all having a single feature):
Cellphone.
Phonebook (cellphone can't have that - that'd be convergence).
GPS-device.
MP3-player.
CD-player.
WMA-player.
OGG-player.
DVD-player.
PDA-like device, that can only be used for text-documents.
Etc, etc, etc.
Of course, you can easily upgrade your devices whenever needed, but really - just how annoying would it be to carry around all that stuff?
I'd prefer a single device, that could easily be upgraded via software; some stuff, like e.g. the GPS would have to be hardwired in the system, but various codecs and programs should be easy to install.
Uhm ... is this site xxx-rated? Otherwise I'd better not say.
[Lt. Steven Hauk uses Army jargon to refer to a press conference to be given by former Vice-President Nixon.]
Adrian Cronauer: Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the V.P. is such a V.I.P., shouldn't we keep the P.C. on the Q.T.? 'Cause of the leaks to the V.C. he could end up M.I.A., and then we'd all be put out in K.P.
Because that would mean that liability would no longer apply, making a whole lot of lawyers unemployed.
How come the US judicial system doesn't demand that you use common sence? Should it really be nescesary to write "keep out of children"(*) on a warning label for a kitchen knife?
*No, I didn't leave any words out of the sentence.
That explains why the moon is lit up all the time. There are actually aliens pumping oil from the moon already, and the light we see is all the surplus oil/gas being burnt off. That explains so much! Thank you for making it very clear to me.
As the article points out, people are willing to pay $2200/mg for moon rock.
Still, to make back $1.5 billion from 100 kilos of space rock, you need to sell the rock at $1.5 million/gram.
Let's see.
1 gram is the same as 1,000 milligram.
2,200 dollars/1 milligram 2,200 dollars * 1000 / 1 milligram * 1000 2,200,000 dollars/1 gram
I don't get it. Why the sarcastic "Yeah. Right."?
Of course not ... people from back then are very secretive about it ... just look at Scientology.
Ja, jeg siger sgu også mange tak til den skide imperialist. Han skal da bare fortsætte med den fair analogi, så Bill kan tage på en rejse i en banan?
Hvad fanden betyder "Mange donc d'la marde mon ostie d'impérialiste. Continue de faire des analogies à la con, je suis sur que Bill va t'envoyer un beau nanane!" egentligt?
Would someone please translate "Mange donc d'la marde mon ostie d'impérialiste. Continue de faire des analogies à la con, je suis sur que Bill va t'envoyer un beau nanane!" into english?
"Oh, yeah, before I forget-there's freedom of religion as long as you're Lutheran. If your Jewish like me, well, you can still have that Seder but your taxes go to the Lutheran church, not to your synagogue."
... well - I don't know about the other scandinavian countries, but in Denmark (where I live) none of my muslim friends pay any kind of taxes to the lutheran church (well, one of them does, because he'd like support the church as a part of danish culture). While it is true that most people in Denmark pays taxes to the lutheran church, this has a good reason: if you are baptized in a lutheran church (as a baby), you are automatically signed up as a member of the church, and "billed" for your membership through taxes. This isn't really a problem, because if you don't want to pay this tax (0,7 percent I think), you just resign your membership of the church.
s /e volution980617.html
. sh tml
;-)
Hmm
I don't know if this is the same for other churches, but I don't see why it shouldn't/couldn't be.
As for the
"And your thing about evolution is about fifty years out of date. No particular cosmological theory is mandated in any state's law, but the courts (Federal, meaning they apply to every single state) have been extremely unfriendly to anything that looks like Biblical creationism in any public (tax-supported) school."
Well - having done a little bit of research, it appears that I was a bit wrong - states can't ban the teachings of evolution (Supreme Court Decision - Epperson v. Arkansas), but that isn't stopping the "creationists". Oh by the way - the reason the courts are upset about the teaching of creation, is the seperation of State and Church (don't ask me why they're so vehemently against it - I don't really see why you can't tell people about various creation theories).
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNew
"June 17, 1998 -- Open any biology textbook used in Alabama's public schools and you'll find pasted to the front cover a disclaimer casting doubt on the words within."
Okay, so it's three years old, but still disturbing.
http://www.aip.org/pt/vol-53/iss-10/p73a.html
"Staver was a cochair of the 27-member committee of science teachers, educators, and scientists that two years ago wrote a lengthy set of standards for K12 science education in Kansas. The board adopted the standards, but only after voting 6 to 4 to revise them and cut all references to Darwinian evolution, the Big Bang, the age of both the universe and Earth, and, curiously, global warming."
Well, it's back in (which is a good thing), but it was still ousted two years ago.
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/26/news-wertheim
"May 18 - 24, 2001
Alas, poor Darwin. Probably no scientist in history has been more hated than this mild- mannered Englishman. Last week saw yet another twist in the war on his theory of evolution when the state of Louisiana decided that this famous theory was racist. "Be it resolved that the Legislature of Louisiana does hereby deplore all instances and ideologies of racism, and does hereby reject the core concepts of Darwinist ideology that certain races and classes of humans are inherently superior to others," reads a resolution approved by the state's House Education Committee on May 1."
Shudder - what's next? Language being banned, because it can be used to communicate "bad" things?
"We're not smart enough or cultured enough to be Europeans."
At least you got that right - that's why we kicked you out in the first place
How about ... uhm ... probably every scandinavian country?
Oh yeah - before I forget, they also have freedom of speach. And religion. And the right to teach people what ever you want, unlike some US state(s?) that prohibits the teachings of evolution.
You were implying, that the US is somekind of beacon or bastion of freedom, and all other countries are hopelessly totalitatian in comparison? If so, you should probably do some checking up on the current political climate in more or less the entire world, and not just stick with the notion, that all other countries are ruled by some kind of dictatorship.
Some people ought to spend less time proving their ignorance and more time getting their heads out of their asses.
I'd crashed on my bike (again - don't ask), and was being checked by a nurse. A kid is lying in a bed a few meters away, with both arms and legs in casts. He had a conversation with a passing nurse. It went something like this:
Her: "What happened to you?"
Him: "I fell out a window."
Her: "How far up were you?"
Him: "2nd floor."
Her: "It must have hurt a lot falling out the window."
Him: "No - didn't hurt at all."
Her: "Oh come now. You've broken your arms and legs. It must've hurt a lot."
Him: "No, it didn't hurt falling out the windows. The landing was a bit tricky though."
I couldn't help but laughing out really loud, cause the kid couldn't have been more than 10 or 11, and he showed both a very good sence of humour and a fairly precise knowledge of how to use the language.
The nurses of course couldn't see the humour in his joke, and didn't think I was very polite by laughing at the kid. Grown-ups.
When I grow up, I want to be a child.
Not this discussion again. Look up "island" in your encyclopaedia.
I did the same kind of calculation here:
5 31 974
... not bad.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=23464&cid=2
900,720 km^2
The United States of America is 9,372,143 km^2
Alaska is 1,518,800 km^2
Texas is 692,405 km^2
Arizona is 295,024 km^2
The Atlantic Ocean is 82,362,000 km^2
Europe is 10,360,000 km^2
Denmark (my home country) is a measly 43,069 km^2
Great Britain is 244,044 km^2
Germany is 356,733 km^2
France is 547,026 km^2
The Pacific Ocean is 181,300,000 km^2
Australia is 7,686,810 km^2
Greenland (the largest island in the world) is 2,175,600 km^2
Well - I DID say, that I was far from a unix-buff ... did I not?
So why does my lack of "common" knowledge puzzle you?
why is it bad that I have 2000 files in /usr/bin?
... lemme see if I can answer that, even though I'm no linux-buff (I use FreeBSD at home, but I suck at that as well).
/usr/bin. "But the package-remover takes care of that.". Are you sure? If it's even close the the standard of the windows uninstaller, it'll leave a ton of files lying around ... just in case.
/usr/bin, it takes alot of time finding the one ini-file you need to modify. Is it called xyz, xzy, yxz, yzx, zxy or zyx?
... right?
Hmm
If I want to be sure that I have removed a program completely, it's impossible to be sure, since there are now 1999 files in
Compare it to your messy bedroom (if you take offence, compare it to my messy bedroom instead): Even though I know where everything is (more or less), it's still a mess and it takes me some time to find all my dirty laundry. With a messy
I'm sure people more skilled in linux/bsd/whatever can come up with better reasons than this, but you even came up with an answer yourself: "satisfying someone's overeager sense of order".
You obviously don't like order and just have everything placed in /
Most people haven't read the article it seems. Allow me to copy the follow-up:
A few followups
The response to this commentary has been large and I've gotten a ton of emails, (mostly positive). A few things I think I should clarify. First of all, this seems to only be an issue in RH based systems - many Slackware and Suse users emailed me to say that their systems try to do the right thing. Second of all a few angry people questioned my qualifications to make the above commentary, and one person even called me a novice! Many people know who I am and that I've been involved in Linux for years, but I figure since most editorials state the author's experience I might as well, too. I'm a Unix and Windows developer, have certifications in HP-UX Systems Administration and Tru64 cluster management (TruCluster), and have been a either a Unix admin or developer since college. I've worked on free software for about 3 years and have been a Linux user since the 0.9x days. Last of all, a few users say I should just use RPM, usually stating something along the lines that I'm stupid and don't know how to use it. Nothing can be further from the case: I have a lot of experience with RPM both from a user experience and creating quite a few RPMs for Linux distributions in the past. Just because you have a package manager is no excuse for sloppy and lazy directory management.
and just install in /?
Who in their right mind places stuff outside of a program specific folder, if it's not gonna be used in multiple programs (like shared libraries)?
Seriously though, I'm the youngest coworker at a company at 24 (and three quarters!!), where the second youngest guy is 31 and the average age is 43.
They all have spouces - I just have a crush on my neighbour.
They have friends - I just have the Internet.
They talk politics, I cream them at those discussions (see number 2) because I apparently know more about the subjects at hand.
When we hang around at fridays sucking down a cold beer, they usually discuss the finer points of engineering or the lates fashion in drainage grates (no kidding).
Did I mention I'm the only computer guy at a small engineering company? My experience is that computergeeks and other people just don't mix. But then again, I'm just a social dropout, who don't have any friends, and don't even have the guts to invite his neighbour out (and no, it's not because I'm some 5', 350 pound, zit-faced geek who would be able to compete on http://amIUglyOrWhat.com - I clean up quite nicely).
Does anyone know where you can get a spine-transplant?
Hmm ... let's see. My father uses his computer at home (Windows) mainly to suft the web, check his email and write a few letters. Seeing how he can barely remember my email address, let alone the name of his email program (outlook express), I don't see how it would be faster for him (and millions others like him) to use a cli. Just to add insult to injury, he types at aprox 20 chars per minute. Not alot of fun trying to start your email client with
progra~1\Outloo~1\msimn.exe "mailto:hektor@somewhere.com" "subject=how do I start this program without having to type in these long commands?"
But then again, you probably knew that already, but think that people who can't tuchtype more than 250 chars per minute and can remember the most stupid and awk-ward [pun intended] commands should just get grep [pun intended].
Life is too short for not using the right tool for the job. Or do you do all of your painting with a cli-tool?
Yeah - it's probably gonna fade away into the quite world of oblivion beside the Amiga, but the BeOS filesystem actually has this VERY neat and usefull metadata. E.g. with standard mp3's, the filesystem knows that those files has ID3 tags, and add those to the metadata for the file. Same with tons of other file types. And you can add/remove metadata for file types at a whim. And change what application opens what kinds of files (based on MIME type of course, not extention).
"I thought that tests have shown that GUI`s are inefficient and that typing is the way forward? Isnt all this a waste of time?"
... let's see. My father uses his computer at home (Windows) mainly to suft the web, check his email and write a few letters. Seeing how he can barely remember my email address, let alone the name of his email program (outlook express), I don't see how it would be faster for him (and millions others like him) to use a cli. Just to add insult to injury, he types at aprox 20 chars per minute. Not alot of fun trying to start your email client with
Hmm
progra~1\Outloo~1\msimn.exe "mailto:hektor@somewhere.com" subject="how do I start this program without having to type in these long commands?"
But then again, you probably knew that already, but think that people who can't tuchtype more than 250 chars per minute and can remember the most stupid and awk-ward [pun intended] commands should just get grep [pun intended].
Life is too short for not using the right tool for the job. Or do you do all of your painting with a cli-tool?
So - that means all of us with steady jobs, are gonna have to stand up to do our jobs?
I hereby place you under arrest for telling people how to colapse the Hoover Dam.
Sign here to agree to the above statement please.
Well ... I didn't think there were 3d-drivers for any cards under FreeBSD. But then again, I've only checked for nVidia, and they only hand out binaries due to licensed code in the drivers, that they don't want to give out (for obvious reasons).
I'm kinda curious - since there's only supposed to be ONE spacesuit, how did they take the picture?
And why can I see hair at the bottom of the picture? Is that a victim of bad driving or of not wearing a spacesuit when stepping outside the habitat?