You know, I'm tired of hearing the "My Pet Goat" crap. The fact that Bush didn't want to alarm the nation impresses me.
The video of him reading My Pet Goat sure as hell does not impress anyone who watches it. He is not a leader, he was waiting to be told what to do.
If the President were to get up instantly, run out of a room full of reporters, and flee to Air Force One, we would have looked panic-striken and weak to the world.
Which is exactly what he did next. Bush was AWOL the whole day, flying round on Air Flunkhole One.
LOL. Good one. Spit Dan Rather's dick out and go see what real reporters are doing. You know, the kind who go find out things and tell you about them, instead of just making shit up?
Seems to me that you are the one who is flailing, here, calling people names, tut tut.
Must be hard to face the fact that your candidate is caught in a lie sir, a lie, a dishonorable lie.
But if it's going to be about Vietnam, because that's where Kerry's people are going to put it, then so be it. Questions about Kerry's service are par for the course. And his own stories do not match up. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
That is the whole strategy. You know that Bush is a dishonorable soldier who deserted his post, deserted his post sir, a dishonorable and cowardly act. His oponent is a decorated veteran, awarded three purple hearts so the GOP just has to bring him down.
W. wants to run on his strength as leader even though he read my pet goat on 9-11. So the whole point of these smears and lies from smearboat veterans for bush was so that you could confuse the issue and claim it is all a wash.
You are dishonorable sir, your candidate is dishonorable sir, and caught in a lie sir, a dishonorable lie.
Oh and by the way the Navy has denied having made any decision concerning the GOP attempt to start any investigation of any medals awarded to Kerry.
And yes, we would prefer to be taliking about W's failures in the economy, on terrorism and Iraq.
Where is Bin Laden Sir? Where is Al Zawahiri? Not in Iraq.
]So it is clear that the 'th' glyph was present on at least some of the manual typewriters on the base.
Sigh. There's never been a manual typewriter that did proportional letterspacing.
You're just in complete flail mode now, aren't you?
Seems like you are in complete flail mode. I refute your claim that the th glyph did not exist by pointing out that even the manual typewriters used on the base had it. You then switch to a completely different issue. We know that the th was available on selectrics and manual machines. You are claiming that IBM did not support th on their top of the line proportional font machine. sounds pretty desperate flailing from your side to me.
The IBM Electric 'Executive' Model D has been established to do proportional spacing and was available in any font that IBM carried. The font used appears to be Bold Impact 2. A 'th' glyph was available as a field upgrade. If the clerk was used to using a manual machine with a th glyph they would probably order the same feature on the electric for the base commander's office.
CBS news has just come out and confirmed its story. So the only effect that your flailing and accusations has had is that three times as many people now know that Bush went AWOL and then lied about it.
Like wearing a "V" device on a Sliver Star, when those have never been awarded/authorized?
You can tell when the GOP is rattled, they change to a different set of lies. Clearly the fact that Word does not do kerning by default, the fact that the popular IBM Executive Model D is the most likely machine used to create the documents, the fact that the documents have uneven baseline heights typical of typewriters and utterly atrypical of laser printed output, these facts explode their proof of forgery myth.
So now they go back to their earlier dishonorable attacks on a decorated veteran. The documents on file have all supported Kerry's claims. The swift boat liars are simply politically motivated hacks who have told so many lies that have been categorically disproved that it is impossible to believe them any more.
Of course the motive for this is not hard to see, they think that if they can muddy the waters then people will become confused about which one went to Vietnam and was awarded three purple hearts and which went AWOL from the national guard and lied about it afterwards.
Your leader is caught in a lie sir, a dirty dishonorable lie.
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The quotation is a well known fake. The typewriter font it is written in did not exist in Washington's day.
The officer in question would likely have not had a secretary - higher ranks that Lt. Col. tend to be the ones who get those - and this is a "Memo to File" yet has nto a single peice of proper formatting (Where is the Unit Designation, the signature block, and why isn't it listed as "MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD" something I can find about 10 examples of here in my records, I've never seen a "Memo To File."
A Lt. Col. is only one step below a Colonel who is the commander of an entire regiment. Besides Killian took over from the previous commander who had been a full colonel when he retired.
A base commander gets whatever they want for their private office. They certainly get a private secretary. In those days secretaries were much more common than they are today, even mid level managers in industry had secretaries. A Lt. Col. is a very senior officer, only two steps below general. At that time they even got their own personal servants.
Look at the "fe" sequence of characters in the 18 August 1973 memo in the words "interference" and "feedback".
Sure looks like kerning to me.
True kerning is when the space after a later varies depending on the following letter. The font in the document has faux kerning, the space after f is actualy less than the width of the f but it is the same in every case. This is exactly what typewriters did for proportional spacing.
It is also exactly what Word does by default. Kerning is not turned on in Word except as an option. The word document that is alleged to match does not have kerning turned on. If you do turn on kerning the letters shift much closer together and no longer bear any resemblance to the original.
A much better test of whether the document is laser or typewritten is the evenness of the lines. The lower case m is noticably higher than the e, the 8 is off the baseline as well. Also the width of the numerals is identical which matched IBM practice for typewriters, in Word the numerals are proportionaly spaced.
Bottom line is that this document was produced on an upmarket typewriter of exactly the type you would expect a senior US Air Force officer to by for his personal office.
If you fire up Microsoft Word and type the document with default settings and print it out, it matches about 99%.
Thus proving that the document does NOT use Kerning. In word Kerning is turned off by default. If you turn Kerning on the aledged match goes away completely.
It is not surprising that two systems that are both trying to emulate the same hot metal original font would look very similar. Several former IBM typewriter repair guys have stated that they replaced strikebars often and replacement keys were easy to get.
Occams razore would seem to suggest that every single one of the objections raized by the repugnants having been dismissed they still continue to repeat them. Don't forget that when we started most of you guys were swearing blind that NO TYPEWRITER EVER DID PROPORTIONAL FONT then when that was disproved seagued seamlessly into NO TYPEWRITER EVER HAD A TH KEY then when that was disproved tried to claim that PISSANT Lt. Col.s DON't HAVE EXPENSIVE OFFICE EQUIPMENT only it wasn't expensive and military officers are notorious for buying things they should not for their personal use then we got down to KERNING! only the word document that is claimed to match perfectly has kerning turned off which is the default in word.
Lets really use occams razor. Has anyone seen Bush at the Alabama guard? Only one and he claims to have seen Bush on a day Bush himself agrees he was not there, a fact supported by other evidence. So nobody saw Bush in Alabama, he certainly did not report for duty in Texas, he certainly did not fulfil his medical. Killians memos are exactly what you would expect someone to write in his position, exactly.
Your "leader" has been caught in a lie sir, a dishonorable lie.
If the WH had to deny everything anyone threw at them, it would be a 24 hour a day job. You're saying someone is guilty if they don't deny everything someone else says.... that's just silly.
The Whitehouse has been out there trying to spin the story. Despite being repeatedly prompted to Bartlet, the WH spindoctor refused to provide a straight denial.
Another thing on this topic: That "Staudt" guy mentioned in that 1973 memo? He retired in 1972.
And was still shilling for the Bush familly in Feb this year claiming that there had been no pressure put on him. The fact that he was retired did not mean that he would not still be in contact with his former commanding officer.
The memo states that it is 'obvious' that the pressure on Hodges is comming from Staudt, that might have been mistaken on Killian's part.
Face it guys, when you get down to claiming that the bloody glove don't fit or that the DNA evidence is fake you have already admitted that the crime is very serious.
If you have to call these forgeries then you have to admit that they are very incriminating and demonstrate that Bush told a direct lie. A forger would not create anything less.
So when the typewriter with a proportional font and a th key is found you have to admit that Bush lied about his guard service. A lie, a dirty little lie from a dishonest and dishonorable liar who cannot be trusted to tell the truth on any subject.
Sigh. Those documents were not typed on an IBM Executive typewriter, because those documents are in a fixed-pitch, not proportional-pitch, typeface.
Well they sure were not produced on a selectric, not unless someone actually tried to play golf with one of the golfballs.
So it is clear that the 'th' glyph was present on at least some of the manual typewriters on the base.
Your statement from 'IBM' is unsourced, why would someone working for the IBM computer company in 2004 have any expertise in what options the IBM typewriter division was delivering in Texas in the 1960s?
The IBM executive had been made for over thirty years by the time the memo was written and the model used could have been any one of them.
Again, if the memos were fake then the WH would not have re-released the CBS documents, Bush would have said 'I was never ordered to take the medical' and the WH would not have redistributed them.
"While IBM had introduced an electric typewriter that used proportional spacing by the early 1970s, it was not widely used in government. In addition, Flynn said, the CBS documents appear to use proportional spacing both across and down the page, a relatively recent innovation. Other anomalies in the documents include the use of the superscripted letters "th" in phrases such as 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Bush's unit."
Read the rest of the posts, it is well established that the IBM Selectric was not capable of proportional fonts in the standard configuration.
The IBM executive was introduced in 1941 according to the IBM web site. This 'expert' is talking through his hat. He is clearly not an expert at all, just some shlub who called up the post and said he was.
This is all very easy to solve, just look at the other correspondence from the Col.
If the memos were untrue the WH would have denied them, 36 hours later they have not. They have attacked them as 'recycled' but they have not repudiated the central claim that Bush refused a direct order to take his medical.
Yes, there is: the Executive machines didn't use interchangeable type balls. They used a lever-arm mechanism. Either all Executive typewriters would have had the "th" glyph or none of them would have. None did. IBM never made one with that glyph.
IBM made many, many different versions of their typewriters. The versions sold in France had accent characters, the version sold in the UK had the pound sign and a modified layout.
You are caught in a lie sir, a lie.
Besides there have been superscript th glyphs found in the other documents already released by the WH, documents that were obviously typed on basic pool machine.
It's really not that hard a concept, you know. You're either the biggest dumbass I've encountered all day -- and that is saying something -- or you're just fucking around.
That would be the cretin you want to get elected to the Whitehouse.
Several people are claiming that they used Selectric golfballs with proportional pitch. Wether or not they are correct is another matter, but I certainly don't see how you claim to know the exact capabilities of every typewriter owned by the US military.
IBM sold selectric golfballs with the th superscript at the time. There is no reason why they could not have offered their IBM Executive series machines with a similar option. In fact it would be even easier since instead of having to machine a custom golfball for an entire font all they would need to do is to substitute a single strikebar.
And no, the typeface is not MICROSOFT anything, Microsoft has never designed a typeface ever. The Microsoft fonts are from Monospace corp.
The 'expert' you refer to is not regarded as such outside the US republican party. There is only one google hit for Bouffard and typewriter that relates to a forensic case and that is a crank case involving UFOs. If he was the ultimate expert in the field you would expect rather more comment on his work.
Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job. But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.
Stadt got Bush INTO the guard was still shilling for the Bush campaign early this year.
"Bush's application, as well as his commission, were handled by then-Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, who said, "Nobody did anything for him.... There was no... influence on his behalf. Neither his daddy nor anybody else got him into the Guard." Staudt, who retired in 1972 as a brigadier general, said Bush was enrolled quickly because there was a demand for pilot candidates. "
It is completely belivable that Stadt would have remained in contact with his former collegues after leaving the service. The claim that there was a shortage of pilots has been proven to be a lie. So there is every reason to believe that Stadt would have been the person pressuring Hodges - although if you read the memo it is clear that this is a suposition on the part of Killian
The superscript "th" was available as a custom-ordered type ball. It cost a fortune, and would not have been found in a Texas Air National Guard secretary's typewriter.
See how we get from A to B?
First proportional fonts did not exist at all. [oops wrong]
Then Times NEW Roman did not exist [oops wrong]
Then the miliatry could not afford them (bought too many $5000 hammers I guess) [oops wrong]
Then the superscript th was impossible. [oops wrong]
Now we are back to claims that a Lt Colonel could not afford a spare golfball for his selectric.
Fact is that by the 1970s there were lots of companies making replacement golfballs for the selectrics. In fact you had to go to a 3rd party to get the golfball with proportional spacing, at least at first.
The idea that a Lt. Col. could not afford a fancy font for his typewriter is ridiculous. It is exactly the sort of thing where the military top brass play one upmanship. Every piece of correspondence would be written using the same machine.
This is pure denial from the right, they know that the documents prove that Bush is a liar and that he disobeyed a direct order to take his medical exam. The only way they can maintain their belief system is to believe the documents are fake.
The font used in these documents isn't Times Roman. It's Times New Roman, a very specific variation on Times Roman.
The Times of London is actually set in Times NEW Roman and that was the original typeface designed in 1932.
The diference in the names is due to the Linotype corporation having applied for a trademark on Times Roman, Monospace then used Times New Roman as their term for the original font.
Anyway, this is really intresting. And, btw what do the rest of this guy's personal documents look like are they all written in Times New Roman as well?
As you point out it is easily checked and that is why we can be certain the right is not going to do the checking. They want to believe that the memos are forged for as long as they possibly can.
There is a very simple way to end all this, all Bush needs to do is to allow access to his military record, something he has refused to do so far. The only documents that have been allowed out have been edited by the WH and its supporters.
Release the microfiche and this is all over - one way or the other. We know the microfiche exists, the WH is resisting release under FOIA. I do not think they would do that if they were exculpatory.
Bush refused a direct order to take a medical shortly after random drug testing for pilots was introduced. Those are the facts, deal with them.
My mother used to use one of those models of IBM typewriter at her job. There is no way in hell that you would find one at a typical office, let alone a military installation. It still wouldn't look anything like the images of the memos that have been posted to the web.
Back then, most people in the military were still using grungy old manual typewriters. The military is not noted for being on the cutting edge of office equipment.
OK your mum HAD one of the machines, therefore a clerk working for a Lt Colonel in the US military could not? Prey where is the logic there?
Senior officers in the US military have always been notorious for obtaining toys for their office. Having correspondence look presentable was considered exceptionally important in those days. Something like an IBM Executive is exactly what you would expect a lt Colonel's admin to be using.
Sigh. You're not paying attention. There are lots of implementations, if you prefer that word, of Times New Roman out there. Microsoft's is the one that was used in these memos, as identified positively this morning by forensic expert Dr. Philip Bouffard.
I can only find one other case in which Dr Philip Bouffard has provided advice concerning a typewriter font on the net. It involves wierd UFO shit and Bouffard appears to be supporting the claims made by the UFO believers.
Bouffard is mentioned in a number of places in connection with a classification scheme for 4,500 typewriter typefaces. This is not actually a very large number and the system does not appear to be widely used or for that matter used outside Australia. The databases used by the FBI and most international law enforcement agencies list over 80,000 typewriter faces.
The biggest reason to doubt the bouffard claims is that the gif image that has been posted is of such a miserable resolution that it is impossible to see what is going on at all. If the claims had any weight then a better image would be provided.
I do not even agree that the font is definitely Times Roman and it is certainly impossible to make any statement about Kerning given the original resolution on the CBS site. The WH copies are even worse having been faxed in between.
The documents that were distributed were done on IBM typewriters.... typewriters that didn't have the superscript "th". The IBM typewriters then also didn't have proportional fonts.
The IBM Executive had proportional fonts in 1942, it was the workhorse typewriter for much of business for that exact reason. A Lt Colonel is exactly the type of person who would want correspondence to be written in an impressive typeface. The clerk would use the same machine to write all memos regardless of importance.
There were many variations of the typefaces. A business would be very likely to want special characters such as $ and yen, pounds etc. A law firm would have different requirements and so on.
Since these were mechanical machines it was quite easy to change individual striking levers to add special characters of the customers choice. Eva Braun used an earlier IBM typewriter with a special symbol for the SS with the lightning bolt glyphs.
Superscript th was not an unusual requirement. Even if the machine started as stock it was the type of upgrade that happened regularly in the field. The striking pins have to be accessible because every so often a machine will jam.
The arguments about Word documents mean absolutely nothing. The alignment of the two documents does not look all that good to me, the resolution of the images is way less than the difference I would expect.
When self proclaimed 'experts' start making categorical claims such as proportional spacing typewriters did not exist at the time and those claims are proved false it is time to discount their expertise.
No, the Whitehouse must allow the release of the microfiche and stop attempting to block the Reuters and AP FOIA requests.
When Bush lost his flying status there would be a mandatory investigation. These memos look to me to be written for the sole purpose of Killian covering his ass with respect to the investigation so that he can show that he made a good faith effort to force Bush to comply.
Bush's personel record must have a copy of the investigation report. That is what the Whitehouse has resisted release of.
Why argue over possible forgeries when the Whitehouse has it in its power to settle this with the one set of documents that is beyond dispute?
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The video of him reading My Pet Goat sure as hell does not impress anyone who watches it. He is not a leader, he was waiting to be told what to do.
If the President were to get up instantly, run out of a room full of reporters, and flee to Air Force One, we would have looked panic-striken and weak to the world.
Which is exactly what he did next. Bush was AWOL the whole day, flying round on Air Flunkhole One.
Seems to me that you are the one who is flailing, here, calling people names, tut tut.
Must be hard to face the fact that your candidate is caught in a lie sir, a lie, a dishonorable lie.
That is the whole strategy. You know that Bush is a dishonorable soldier who deserted his post, deserted his post sir, a dishonorable and cowardly act. His oponent is a decorated veteran, awarded three purple hearts so the GOP just has to bring him down.
W. wants to run on his strength as leader even though he read my pet goat on 9-11. So the whole point of these smears and lies from smearboat veterans for bush was so that you could confuse the issue and claim it is all a wash.
You are dishonorable sir, your candidate is dishonorable sir, and caught in a lie sir, a dishonorable lie.
Oh and by the way the Navy has denied having made any decision concerning the GOP attempt to start any investigation of any medals awarded to Kerry.
And yes, we would prefer to be taliking about W's failures in the economy, on terrorism and Iraq.
Where is Bin Laden Sir? Where is Al Zawahiri? Not in Iraq.
Sigh. There's never been a manual typewriter that did proportional letterspacing. You're just in complete flail mode now, aren't you?
Seems like you are in complete flail mode. I refute your claim that the th glyph did not exist by pointing out that even the manual typewriters used on the base had it. You then switch to a completely different issue. We know that the th was available on selectrics and manual machines. You are claiming that IBM did not support th on their top of the line proportional font machine. sounds pretty desperate flailing from your side to me.
The IBM Electric 'Executive' Model D has been established to do proportional spacing and was available in any font that IBM carried. The font used appears to be Bold Impact 2. A 'th' glyph was available as a field upgrade. If the clerk was used to using a manual machine with a th glyph they would probably order the same feature on the electric for the base commander's office.
CBS news has just come out and confirmed its story. So the only effect that your flailing and accusations has had is that three times as many people now know that Bush went AWOL and then lied about it.
You can tell when the GOP is rattled, they change to a different set of lies. Clearly the fact that Word does not do kerning by default, the fact that the popular IBM Executive Model D is the most likely machine used to create the documents, the fact that the documents have uneven baseline heights typical of typewriters and utterly atrypical of laser printed output, these facts explode their proof of forgery myth.
So now they go back to their earlier dishonorable attacks on a decorated veteran. The documents on file have all supported Kerry's claims. The swift boat liars are simply politically motivated hacks who have told so many lies that have been categorically disproved that it is impossible to believe them any more.
Of course the motive for this is not hard to see, they think that if they can muddy the waters then people will become confused about which one went to Vietnam and was awarded three purple hearts and which went AWOL from the national guard and lied about it afterwards.
Your leader is caught in a lie sir, a dirty dishonorable lie.
The quotation is a well known fake. The typewriter font it is written in did not exist in Washington's day.
A Lt. Col. is only one step below a Colonel who is the commander of an entire regiment. Besides Killian took over from the previous commander who had been a full colonel when he retired.
A base commander gets whatever they want for their private office. They certainly get a private secretary. In those days secretaries were much more common than they are today, even mid level managers in industry had secretaries. A Lt. Col. is a very senior officer, only two steps below general. At that time they even got their own personal servants.
True kerning is when the space after a later varies depending on the following letter. The font in the document has faux kerning, the space after f is actualy less than the width of the f but it is the same in every case. This is exactly what typewriters did for proportional spacing.
It is also exactly what Word does by default. Kerning is not turned on in Word except as an option. The word document that is alleged to match does not have kerning turned on. If you do turn on kerning the letters shift much closer together and no longer bear any resemblance to the original.
A much better test of whether the document is laser or typewritten is the evenness of the lines. The lower case m is noticably higher than the e, the 8 is off the baseline as well. Also the width of the numerals is identical which matched IBM practice for typewriters, in Word the numerals are proportionaly spaced.
Bottom line is that this document was produced on an upmarket typewriter of exactly the type you would expect a senior US Air Force officer to by for his personal office.
Nope, I said that his expertise was not valued outside the republican party. Bouffard is actually claiming to be a democrat.
Thus proving that the document does NOT use Kerning. In word Kerning is turned off by default. If you turn Kerning on the aledged match goes away completely.
It is not surprising that two systems that are both trying to emulate the same hot metal original font would look very similar. Several former IBM typewriter repair guys have stated that they replaced strikebars often and replacement keys were easy to get.
Occams razore would seem to suggest that every single one of the objections raized by the repugnants having been dismissed they still continue to repeat them. Don't forget that when we started most of you guys were swearing blind that NO TYPEWRITER EVER DID PROPORTIONAL FONT then when that was disproved seagued seamlessly into NO TYPEWRITER EVER HAD A TH KEY then when that was disproved tried to claim that PISSANT Lt. Col.s DON't HAVE EXPENSIVE OFFICE EQUIPMENT only it wasn't expensive and military officers are notorious for buying things they should not for their personal use then we got down to KERNING! only the word document that is claimed to match perfectly has kerning turned off which is the default in word.
Lets really use occams razor. Has anyone seen Bush at the Alabama guard? Only one and he claims to have seen Bush on a day Bush himself agrees he was not there, a fact supported by other evidence. So nobody saw Bush in Alabama, he certainly did not report for duty in Texas, he certainly did not fulfil his medical. Killians memos are exactly what you would expect someone to write in his position, exactly.
Your "leader" has been caught in a lie sir, a dishonorable lie.
The Whitehouse has been out there trying to spin the story. Despite being repeatedly prompted to Bartlet, the WH spindoctor refused to provide a straight denial.
Another thing on this topic: That "Staudt" guy mentioned in that 1973 memo? He retired in 1972.
And was still shilling for the Bush familly in Feb this year claiming that there had been no pressure put on him. The fact that he was retired did not mean that he would not still be in contact with his former commanding officer.
The memo states that it is 'obvious' that the pressure on Hodges is comming from Staudt, that might have been mistaken on Killian's part.
Face it guys, when you get down to claiming that the bloody glove don't fit or that the DNA evidence is fake you have already admitted that the crime is very serious.
If you have to call these forgeries then you have to admit that they are very incriminating and demonstrate that Bush told a direct lie. A forger would not create anything less.
So when the typewriter with a proportional font and a th key is found you have to admit that Bush lied about his guard service. A lie, a dirty little lie from a dishonest and dishonorable liar who cannot be trusted to tell the truth on any subject.
Well they sure were not produced on a selectric, not unless someone actually tried to play golf with one of the golfballs.
So it is clear that the 'th' glyph was present on at least some of the manual typewriters on the base.
Your statement from 'IBM' is unsourced, why would someone working for the IBM computer company in 2004 have any expertise in what options the IBM typewriter division was delivering in Texas in the 1960s?
The IBM executive had been made for over thirty years by the time the memo was written and the model used could have been any one of them.
Again, if the memos were fake then the WH would not have re-released the CBS documents, Bush would have said 'I was never ordered to take the medical' and the WH would not have redistributed them.
Read the rest of the posts, it is well established that the IBM Selectric was not capable of proportional fonts in the standard configuration.
The IBM executive was introduced in 1941 according to the IBM web site. This 'expert' is talking through his hat. He is clearly not an expert at all, just some shlub who called up the post and said he was.
This is all very easy to solve, just look at the other correspondence from the Col.
If the memos were untrue the WH would have denied them, 36 hours later they have not. They have attacked them as 'recycled' but they have not repudiated the central claim that Bush refused a direct order to take his medical.
That is not kerning, that is simply the spacing of the f character being set narrower than the actual width.
Take a look at the other f's, they all have the same characteristic, if you have several fs in a row the tops run together.
This is faux kerning, the width of the character is not variable. The glyph overhangs the space for the next line so that there is not an odd space.
IBM made many, many different versions of their typewriters. The versions sold in France had accent characters, the version sold in the UK had the pound sign and a modified layout.
You are caught in a lie sir, a lie.
Besides there have been superscript th glyphs found in the other documents already released by the WH, documents that were obviously typed on basic pool machine.
Tou are caught in a lie sir.
That would be the cretin you want to get elected to the Whitehouse.
Several people are claiming that they used Selectric golfballs with proportional pitch. Wether or not they are correct is another matter, but I certainly don't see how you claim to know the exact capabilities of every typewriter owned by the US military.
IBM sold selectric golfballs with the th superscript at the time. There is no reason why they could not have offered their IBM Executive series machines with a similar option. In fact it would be even easier since instead of having to machine a custom golfball for an entire font all they would need to do is to substitute a single strikebar.
And no, the typeface is not MICROSOFT anything, Microsoft has never designed a typeface ever. The Microsoft fonts are from Monospace corp.
The 'expert' you refer to is not regarded as such outside the US republican party. There is only one google hit for Bouffard and typewriter that relates to a forensic case and that is a crank case involving UFOs. If he was the ultimate expert in the field you would expect rather more comment on his work.
Stadt got Bush INTO the guard was still shilling for the Bush campaign early this year.
"Bush's application, as well as his commission, were handled by then-Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, who said, "Nobody did anything for him.... There was no ... influence on his behalf. Neither his daddy nor anybody else got him into the Guard." Staudt, who retired in 1972 as a brigadier general, said Bush was enrolled quickly because there was a demand for pilot candidates. "
It is completely belivable that Stadt would have remained in contact with his former collegues after leaving the service. The claim that there was a shortage of pilots has been proven to be a lie. So there is every reason to believe that Stadt would have been the person pressuring Hodges - although if you read the memo it is clear that this is a suposition on the part of Killian
Excuse me? Pissant? Do you know what the rank Lt. Col. means?
A full Colonel is the commander of a regiment, only one step away from being a general. That is not an inconsequential position.
A Lt. Colonel is not much lower in rank and would certainly have a significant command - in this case an Air Force squadron.
Even in the national guard a Lt. Colonel qualified for their own personal servant in those days. There is no such thing as a 'pissant' Lt. Col.
See how we get from A to B?
First proportional fonts did not exist at all. [oops wrong]
Then Times NEW Roman did not exist [oops wrong]
Then the miliatry could not afford them (bought too many $5000 hammers I guess) [oops wrong]
Then the superscript th was impossible. [oops wrong]
Now we are back to claims that a Lt Colonel could not afford a spare golfball for his selectric.
Fact is that by the 1970s there were lots of companies making replacement golfballs for the selectrics. In fact you had to go to a 3rd party to get the golfball with proportional spacing, at least at first.
The idea that a Lt. Col. could not afford a fancy font for his typewriter is ridiculous. It is exactly the sort of thing where the military top brass play one upmanship. Every piece of correspondence would be written using the same machine.
This is pure denial from the right, they know that the documents prove that Bush is a liar and that he disobeyed a direct order to take his medical exam. The only way they can maintain their belief system is to believe the documents are fake.
The Times of London is actually set in Times NEW Roman and that was the original typeface designed in 1932.
The diference in the names is due to the Linotype corporation having applied for a trademark on Times Roman, Monospace then used Times New Roman as their term for the original font.
As you point out it is easily checked and that is why we can be certain the right is not going to do the checking. They want to believe that the memos are forged for as long as they possibly can.
There is a very simple way to end all this, all Bush needs to do is to allow access to his military record, something he has refused to do so far. The only documents that have been allowed out have been edited by the WH and its supporters.
Release the microfiche and this is all over - one way or the other. We know the microfiche exists, the WH is resisting release under FOIA. I do not think they would do that if they were exculpatory.
Bush refused a direct order to take a medical shortly after random drug testing for pilots was introduced. Those are the facts, deal with them.
Back then, most people in the military were still using grungy old manual typewriters. The military is not noted for being on the cutting edge of office equipment.
OK your mum HAD one of the machines, therefore a clerk working for a Lt Colonel in the US military could not? Prey where is the logic there?
Senior officers in the US military have always been notorious for obtaining toys for their office. Having correspondence look presentable was considered exceptionally important in those days. Something like an IBM Executive is exactly what you would expect a lt Colonel's admin to be using.
I can only find one other case in which Dr Philip Bouffard has provided advice concerning a typewriter font on the net. It involves wierd UFO shit and Bouffard appears to be supporting the claims made by the UFO believers.
Bouffard is mentioned in a number of places in connection with a classification scheme for 4,500 typewriter typefaces. This is not actually a very large number and the system does not appear to be widely used or for that matter used outside Australia. The databases used by the FBI and most international law enforcement agencies list over 80,000 typewriter faces.
The biggest reason to doubt the bouffard claims is that the gif image that has been posted is of such a miserable resolution that it is impossible to see what is going on at all. If the claims had any weight then a better image would be provided.
I do not even agree that the font is definitely Times Roman and it is certainly impossible to make any statement about Kerning given the original resolution on the CBS site. The WH copies are even worse having been faxed in between.
The IBM Executive had proportional fonts in 1942, it was the workhorse typewriter for much of business for that exact reason. A Lt Colonel is exactly the type of person who would want correspondence to be written in an impressive typeface. The clerk would use the same machine to write all memos regardless of importance.
There were many variations of the typefaces. A business would be very likely to want special characters such as $ and yen, pounds etc. A law firm would have different requirements and so on.
Since these were mechanical machines it was quite easy to change individual striking levers to add special characters of the customers choice. Eva Braun used an earlier IBM typewriter with a special symbol for the SS with the lightning bolt glyphs.
Superscript th was not an unusual requirement. Even if the machine started as stock it was the type of upgrade that happened regularly in the field. The striking pins have to be accessible because every so often a machine will jam.
The arguments about Word documents mean absolutely nothing. The alignment of the two documents does not look all that good to me, the resolution of the images is way less than the difference I would expect.
When self proclaimed 'experts' start making categorical claims such as proportional spacing typewriters did not exist at the time and those claims are proved false it is time to discount their expertise.
When Bush lost his flying status there would be a mandatory investigation. These memos look to me to be written for the sole purpose of Killian covering his ass with respect to the investigation so that he can show that he made a good faith effort to force Bush to comply.
Bush's personel record must have a copy of the investigation report. That is what the Whitehouse has resisted release of.
Why argue over possible forgeries when the Whitehouse has it in its power to settle this with the one set of documents that is beyond dispute?