That is truly childish. The real assholes at SCO are the suits and money-grubbing lawyers responsible for this charade. A code monkey in the trenches who needs a job to pay the bills isn't necessarily an enemy of open source.
Agreed.
On top of that, isn't the person applying for a job attempting to leave SCO? The position Chris' company is taking makes no sense.
Wait a minute. What you don't realize is that the "AGREEMENT" which they want you to sign here is NOT the agreement that released the Ancient UNIX code to the public. This is what you had to sign to get access to the ancient UNIX code BEFORE IT WAS OPENED UP TO THE PUBLIC BY CALDERA. CALDERA RELEASED IT WITH A BSD STYLE LICENSE IN 2001. UNFORTUNATELY, SCO IS SUING ABOUT SYSTEM V WHICH WAS NOT PART OF THE ANCIENT UNIX RELEASE.
Yes, but System V is a derivative of this code. So even if UNIX code is found in Linux, it may simply have a common lineage with System V tracing back to this earlier code base!
I still have my doubts about SCO's claims though. But this sure blows another large hole in SCO's hull. It's only a matter of time before they lower the life boats and paddle away.
Simple, they wait till someone else complains. And actually that is the way the system does work. It's up to the owner to complain, no one else cares.
Precisely!
They take the same approach as Linus and the other kernel developers. It's okay for them, but not for Linus?
As has been said, they can because their code is not available for public scrutiny like Linux. And then they claim they've been infringed but won't tell where. Mr. McBride (I'm being polite) says hundreds of thousands of lines of code from SCO are in Linux; they should be able to at least share a few of those as evidence, but they won't for all the reasons that have already been stated. However, it does seem that with so much SCO code in Linux, they would have noticed this very soon after they started putting together their own distribution. Hundreds of thousands of lines?
By my count, the kernel (*.[ch]) is around 5.3M lines (comments and all). If there are, say 200K lines of copied code, that's almost 4% of the kernel. Certainly we would not be looking at 4 of 100 lines being copied, but significant, and easily identifiable blocks. SCO alleges this mass infringement, but 80 anonymous lines says nothing.
"If source code is copied from protected Unix code," the SCO document adds, "there is no way for Linus Torvalds to identify that fact."
Yep, I'd say that's an accurate statement, really.
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If you are trying to identify closed source/proprietary origins of submitted linux code, there is just one thing you need.
God-like omniscience.
Linus is good, but he isn't that good.
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Seeing how SCO are throwing rocks at Linus on this, how exactly do they ensure that they have not violated someone's IP when they *cough* innovate something?
If they were to take what they've said seriously, then they would be unable to develop any software effectively. In fact, I think nearly all software development would stop if the world were to extend this to its logical end.
In this regard, I think that underscores what Linus said on the mailing list.
It also (again) points to the deficiencies (evils) of software patents and such.
For Estes D12 series motors, the official mass (or weight as they label it) is 24.93g. It has a total impulse of 20 N-s (Newton-seconds), reaches peak thrust at ~.25 sec, burnout (all done) at ~1.6 sec. In actual testing, one will typically find that actual total impulse, peak thrust, burn time, etc. will vary slightly (lower) than the official spec.
Note: each motor class upward doubles the maxium total impulse of the previous class (letter designation), therefore an E class motor has between 20.1 - 40 N-s, F 40.1 - 80 N-s, G 80.1 - 160 N-s, etc.
Of course any second-grader can figure out that it only takes three motors to exceed the single motor propellant mass limit.
BTW, Estes typically packages the motors in three's.
Hmm... which is the stronger signal to the ATF, trying to buy 40 kg of black powder, or 1,800 D12 rocket motors?!?
As for getting back into model rocketry, go for it! I was away from rockets for over 20 years and got back into it when my kids were old enough to start building and flying them. Plus, you get to say great one-liners at parties like: "Actually, I am a rocket scientist."
Sorry, but race car drivers do face 3 or more G's. One can argue if it's positive G's or lateral G's that are felt; that depends on the kind of circuit.
You may recall that CART canceled the race at Texas Speedway last year because of the high speeds and resulting G-forces experienced on the banking. If I recall, it was something over 5 G's for significant amounts of time, and a number of drivers experienced problems as a result--including some crashes during practice. The faster you go, the steeper the banking, the higher the positive G's.
In Formula 1 (my kind of racing), the drivers frequently race on circuits with high speed corners that pass 3.5 lateral G's... it's like someone is trying to rip your head off. Then there's the longitudinal G-Forces under acceleration and braking: 0-60 mph in 2.3 seconds, 0-100 mph in 3.6 seconds (that almost 1.5 G's). An F-1 car can scrub 100 mph in a second under braking (that's 5 G's). When braking and accelerating out of a corner, F-1 drivers can experience loads as high as 5 G's.
Astronauts in the space shuttle are subjected largely to longitudinal G-Forces as the shuttle accelerates during launch. 3 G's of longitudinal acceleration in an appropriately reclined position is not that bad a thing.
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Agreed.
On top of that, isn't the person applying for a job attempting to leave SCO? The position Chris' company is taking makes no sense.
I still have my doubts about SCO's claims though. But this sure blows another large hole in SCO's hull. It's only a matter of time before they lower the life boats and paddle away.
They take the same approach as Linus and the other kernel developers. It's okay for them, but not for Linus?
As has been said, they can because their code is not available for public scrutiny like Linux. And then they claim they've been infringed but won't tell where. Mr. McBride (I'm being polite) says hundreds of thousands of lines of code from SCO are in Linux; they should be able to at least share a few of those as evidence, but they won't for all the reasons that have already been stated. However, it does seem that with so much SCO code in Linux, they would have noticed this very soon after they started putting together their own distribution. Hundreds of thousands of lines?
By my count, the kernel (*.[ch]) is around 5.3M lines (comments and all). If there are, say 200K lines of copied code, that's almost 4% of the kernel. Certainly we would not be looking at 4 of 100 lines being copied, but significant, and easily identifiable blocks. SCO alleges this mass infringement, but 80 anonymous lines says nothing.
Seeing how SCO are throwing rocks at Linus on this, how exactly do they ensure that they have not violated someone's IP when they *cough* innovate something?
If they were to take what they've said seriously, then they would be unable to develop any software effectively. In fact, I think nearly all software development would stop if the world were to extend this to its logical end.
In this regard, I think that underscores what Linus said on the mailing list.
It also (again) points to the deficiencies (evils) of software patents and such.
-- just my 2.0E02's worth.
But has she ever used a computer?!?
Note: each motor class upward doubles the maxium total impulse of the previous class (letter designation), therefore an E class motor has between 20.1 - 40 N-s, F 40.1 - 80 N-s, G 80.1 - 160 N-s, etc.
Of course any second-grader can figure out that it only takes three motors to exceed the single motor propellant mass limit.
BTW, Estes typically packages the motors in three's.
Hmm... which is the stronger signal to the ATF, trying to buy 40 kg of black powder, or 1,800 D12 rocket motors?!?
As for getting back into model rocketry, go for it! I was away from rockets for over 20 years and got back into it when my kids were old enough to start building and flying them. Plus, you get to say great one-liners at parties like: "Actually, I am a rocket scientist."
Sorry, but race car drivers do face 3 or more G's. One can argue if it's positive G's or lateral G's that are felt; that depends on the kind of circuit.
You may recall that CART canceled the race at Texas Speedway last year because of the high speeds and resulting G-forces experienced on the banking. If I recall, it was something over 5 G's for significant amounts of time, and a number of drivers experienced problems as a result--including some crashes during practice. The faster you go, the steeper the banking, the higher the positive G's.
In Formula 1 (my kind of racing), the drivers frequently race on circuits with high speed corners that pass 3.5 lateral G's... it's like someone is trying to rip your head off. Then there's the longitudinal G-Forces under acceleration and braking: 0-60 mph in 2.3 seconds, 0-100 mph in 3.6 seconds (that almost 1.5 G's). An F-1 car can scrub 100 mph in a second under braking (that's 5 G's). When braking and accelerating out of a corner, F-1 drivers can experience loads as high as 5 G's.
Astronauts in the space shuttle are subjected largely to longitudinal G-Forces as the shuttle accelerates during launch. 3 G's of longitudinal acceleration in an appropriately reclined position is not that bad a thing.
Consider this your confirmation. I just checked and reset my prefs. Everything was YES, just as reported.