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  1. Re:Now, who's going to wash the PALM READERS? on Biometrics in the Workplace · · Score: 1

    The database is on the clock, the only way you could fudge anything is to have supervisor access on the clock and re-enroll the employee in the clock.

    Most of our clients keep a can of a disinfectant spray next to the clock and have a stack of paper towels. So before you use it if you are concerned with the cleanliness you spray it and wipe it down before you swipe/put your hand in.

  2. Re:Do you people even know how most of this works? on Biometrics in the Workplace · · Score: 1

    But these items are nowhere near as unique as an actually thumb or hand print or DNA. We have seen people with similar hands be able to punch for each other and I'm sure the same goes for the thumb reader that just measures amount and thickness of several ridges in the thumbprint. We sell more of the hand readers beacause of the paranoia of a thumbprint though. I think it's probably more common to have a similar hand than a thumbprint.

  3. Re:Do you people even know how most of this works? on Biometrics in the Workplace · · Score: 1

    There would be no palm reading errors. The machines automatically update the template they have internaly with updated info on the hand for that paticular employee. So if you are losing weight (or gaining weight from working the fry station!) it is gradual enough that the averages it takes from your hand will be adjusted. The employer has no way to know this. If they developed their own handpunch (which i'm sure they didn't) then they could probably add the functionality that you are speaking of, but I know these readers could not identify anything even close to what you are speaking of. Also as far as "identifying" - it is very possible to have a similar hand, so I'm not sure that the hand template would hold up in court for identification purposes. Also the clocks don't report changes in templates at all. It's not a function or value you could recieve from the clock. I guess that functionality would be added, but I'm sure it won't for reasons you state. Not everyone is out to get you. :)

  4. Re:How biometrics work ! on Biometrics in the Workplace · · Score: 1

    Negative.

    The software we sell at least pulls the templates (hand geometry but not PRINTS!) off the clock and pushes them to other clocks. So they are stored on the server depending on the application. And i'm sure most setups are like this. When you have a client with 100+ clocks in a location you can't possible expect them to register(enroll) each employee at each clock.

  5. Do you people even know how most of this works?! on Biometrics in the Workplace · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am in the time and attendance field. My company sells and I setup biometric clocks along with regular clocks. The hand recognition clock we use is made by a company called recognition systems. You people are too damned paranoid. This system, nor the thumb one we use does NOT take your handprint, or thumbprint. You can really tell if you actually look at the handpunch device. The bottom that you are placing your palm on is an optical reflecting surface (just like the old optical mice). It has these little pegs on the inside and it measures the thickness of your fingers and the length. The thumb system that measures the thickness of the ridges and amount of ridges in your thumb and just record that. It does NOT store your fingerprints, nor does the prior store a handprint. You guys need to RESEARCH what you are complaining about before you complain about it. And this was a poor job of research by the journalist that wrote this article. But they have an excuse, they are uninformed liberals, and definitley not in the technical field to even understand how technical things work. Most of you guys are in the technical field.