Fair enough! When I went looking for background to support my claim, what I'd actually had in mind was the page I had to other day, from the Republic of Texas or whatnot, but as it happened I'd lost the link. I went to google looking for "Texas is not a state" hoping to find it, but found that court case instead. Shame on me for not doing my research a little more carefully.
Ironically, I just found the Republic of Texas website. It's right here.
The Congress shall have Power... Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3: To
regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several
States, and with the Indian Tribes.
I don't know what arguement allows the states to get away with Use Tax.
It's simple. The states you live in aren't "the several States" (note the capital S) that founded the United States. These states (note the lowercase s) are federal constructs that the federal government owns, controls, and regulates as it sees fit. It's similar to a company like Pepsico owning another company, like Pizza Hut. They were made with similar-sounding names (those two-letter "abbreviations" like CA you use on your mail) and the zip codes you use that legally attest that you live within them rather than in the actual State. In fact, these legal nexii overlap each of the actual States, and fit exactly within each of their borders. Since two entities can't own the same thing, the courts have found these federal zones to be "legal fictions", which is a nice way to say "full of shyte", but the media keeps it hush-hush, and so the majority of Americans don't know any better. Have a look at my homepage for more of the full scoop on this thing. It's under Sovereign Citizenship.
This is all a big joke. Can't tax interstate trade? Well call it something different yet base it on the same thing. Something seriously needs to be done about this.
Something has. The country was designed in such a way that this couldn't be done. Over the decades, the laws have been carefully, quietly, and fraudulently tiptoed around, hacked into one might say, to get around these system defeats. The states referred to aren't actual States, the predescendants of the United States, from which the federal government draws it's power. No, these are lookalike states, little demonspawn federally-created zones, that look and sound like States, overlap the same borders, and are completely under the control of the federal government. They're also, according to the courts, "legal fictions", which is a nice way to say "castles built on clouds". They have no basis in real law, and only exist because people a) legally declare to the federal government that they are living their whole lives conducting interstate commerce (which then gives the federal government jurisdiction over them), and b) legally declare themselves as being in the fake federal zones rather than the bona fide States. (You do it on your mail all the time, using the two-letter designations you think are State abbreviations, and by using zip codes in your address, which is saying you're living inside these federal roach-motels) The best way I've found is to simply learn the laws and opt out of the system. It can be done, which is why the mainstream media is so phobic about mentioning it. If sheeple catch on, where's the veal?
Hit my homepage to get more of the scoop on this. It's under Sovereign Citizenship.
That would be much more annoying to the citizenry if the 15 other taxes were eliminated and replace with a 120+% sales tax or a 60+% income tax.
They wouldn't be able to do it; it's like comparing apples and particle physics. Sales tax is what goes toward roads and the whole infrastructure deal. Not a bit of the income tax goes to the American people. The federal government commissions the Fed to print money, which it does out of thin air. In return, the federal government owes the Fed (a private corporation). So it charges income taxes and pays it back. The Fed pumps money into the economy (by way of the Federal government, which is very grateful), and the income tax is designed primarily to suck money back out of the system to keep down inflation. That's all. Yes, all of your income tax money is wasted, stolen even. Printed out of thin air when someone else wants money, and taken by force from residents of the United States to cover it.
Pissed yet? Hit my homepage and look under Sovereign Citizenship to learn out how to get out of this rat-trap.
The Constitution doesn't apply here. What theyr'e doing isn't really interstate tax... although I grant you it looks for all the world like it. CA and NY (for example) are federal zones, not States. They're like little spawns of the Federal government, with similar-sounding names as the original States and overlapping the exact borders of the real States. These federal zones are legally opted into by the use of the two-letter abbreviations and zip codes in mail. Since as a resident (legally, more like serf or employee) of the United States they can regulate you on the job as they see fit, they are. Their zones, their rules, and (since "residents" are mere chattel), their people.
Hit my homepage for a more detailed explanation. It's under Sovereign Citizenship.
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The problem as I see it is the Emergency War Powers act, which suspends the Constitution and the checks and balances in the federal government in the event of a national crisis or state of emergency... and has been in effect since the 1930's.
It was designed to give the country a faster cornering speed during a national disaster, by making the Prez the undisputed de facto ruler of the country rather than having to worry about everyone's rights. The ocuntry was schnookered into a state of national emergency in the Depression due to the run on the banks (people stubbornly wanting access to the gold in their accounts. Shame on them, pesky citizens) and since then the only person in the country with the authority to take back that ruling has been the Prez himself.. and none has done so yet.
Fortunately, opting out of the whole damn thing is done easily enough. Hit my homepage and click on Sovereign Citizenship for more info.
"I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce."
-- J. Edgar Hoover
Yes, they're forming a new protocol. If they don't manage to get this one into place, they will continue until they do. Finding technological defeats is oodles of fun, but I see it as a quick-fix for a symptom rather than a cure for the actual problem: what to do with an increasingly seller's market which applies strategic pressure on a government to change the rules in its favor. It's now beyond Monopoly... a successful corporate entity can and will terraform its environment to become more favorable to it, rather than adapting to said environment, and as it becomes more and more successful will alter things even more to its liking, in a system of beneficial feedback. Beneficial to it that is... at the expense of all other entities (resembling the model of what the human race has done with "its" environment at the expense of other species).
In this instance, buying foreign alternatives is also a quick-fix, albeit one that will serve up to a certain point and then run out of steam, as the problem isn't exclusive to the United States. Eventually it will no longer be an option, and what then?
I offer a permanent defeat. It isn't strictly technological per se, but there is a way to render all legislation harmless to oneself. For those that haven't heard yet, it's sovereign citizenship, a way to opt-out of federal and what most people think of as state government. It's an individual option, not requiring voting for a certain candidate or lobbying for a cause (which means you don't have to wait for a statistically significant portion of the lemmings to wise up). You just opt out, with the appropriate paperwork. You then are able to lawfully live in the united States, but are out of jurisdiction in terms of legislation and so-called income (actually excise) taxes. Nothing is illegal for you. If someone challenges you on that, you're welcome to sue them in court; courts have been consistently backing sovereign citizenship up against johnny-come-latelies such as the IRS. Personally, I'd like to see the outcome of a soveriegn citizen's lawsuit against these people for intentionally crippling a drive to be compliant with legislation of the federal United States, which the courts have declared to be "a legal fiction" with no sound basis in law.
There are also a few crafty offensive weapons here for anybody who feels like going on the offense. One that springs to mind is a commercial lien against the people setting this attrocity into motion. A commercial lien was designed to give merchants an equitable way to reach justice... it's done out of court, and involves filing papers against specific individuals which damage their credit rating.
I think the most effective weapon is propogating awareness of sovereign citizenship itself. The mainstream media is too well-heeled to touch it, but as awareness of it continues to snowball, a lot of the assumptions we've previously had about the way things are run and exactly who is working for whom will become challenged. Legislation like this wouldn't even be seriously considered if the majority of people understood that federal legislation binds only entities who admit to engaging in interstate commerce (and most Americans are tricked into it via fraudulent wording in common forms). This also means that n a business not engaged in interstate commerce isn't subject to the legislation either; any sovereign citizen who wants to start churning out non-compliant hard drives is welcome to do so... and depending on the wording of the proposal, all they'd need to do is sell them to a third-party who would distribute them coast-to-coast. It works for every legislation one wants to circumvent... and allows a company in this country to do things which are simple legally impossible for other companies to do. As government contnues to encroach, I imagine that will make the prospect increasingly profitable.
For more on sovereignty, have a look at my write-up. Antishyster has more detailed info on commercial liens, among other things.
"I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate
commerce." -- J. Edgar Hoover
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I know there's a way to filter out article authors, but is there a way to killfile individual posters?
Why would you want to reward Anonymous Cowards?
Fair enough! When I went looking for background to support my claim, what I'd actually had in mind was the page I had to other day, from the Republic of Texas or whatnot, but as it happened I'd lost the link. I went to google looking for "Texas is not a state" hoping to find it, but found that court case instead. Shame on me for not doing my research a little more carefully.
Ironically, I just found the Republic of Texas website. It's right here.
From the constitution:
The Congress shall have Power... Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3: To
regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several
States, and with the Indian Tribes.
I don't know what arguement allows the states to get away with Use Tax.
It's simple. The states you live in aren't "the several States" (note the capital S) that founded the United States. These states (note the lowercase s) are federal constructs that the federal government owns, controls, and regulates as it sees fit. It's similar to a company like Pepsico owning another company, like Pizza Hut. They were made with similar-sounding names (those two-letter "abbreviations" like CA you use on your mail) and the zip codes you use that legally attest that you live within them rather than in the actual State. In fact, these legal nexii overlap each of the actual States, and fit exactly within each of their borders. Since two entities can't own the same thing, the courts have found these federal zones to be "legal fictions", which is a nice way to say "full of shyte", but the media keeps it hush-hush, and so the majority of Americans don't know any better. Have a look at my homepage for more of the full scoop on this thing. It's under Sovereign Citizenship.
This is all a big joke. Can't tax interstate trade? Well call it something different yet base it on the same thing. Something seriously needs to be done about this.
Something has. The country was designed in such a way that this couldn't be done. Over the decades, the laws have been carefully, quietly, and fraudulently tiptoed around, hacked into one might say, to get around these system defeats. The states referred to aren't actual States, the predescendants of the United States, from which the federal government draws it's power. No, these are lookalike states, little demonspawn federally-created zones, that look and sound like States, overlap the same borders, and are completely under the control of the federal government. They're also, according to the courts, "legal fictions", which is a nice way to say "castles built on clouds". They have no basis in real law, and only exist because people a) legally declare to the federal government that they are living their whole lives conducting interstate commerce (which then gives the federal government jurisdiction over them), and b) legally declare themselves as being in the fake federal zones rather than the bona fide States. (You do it on your mail all the time, using the two-letter designations you think are State abbreviations, and by using zip codes in your address, which is saying you're living inside these federal roach-motels) The best way I've found is to simply learn the laws and opt out of the system. It can be done, which is why the mainstream media is so phobic about mentioning it. If sheeple catch on, where's the veal?
Hit my homepage to get more of the scoop on this. It's under Sovereign Citizenship.
That would be much more annoying to the citizenry if the 15 other taxes were eliminated and replace with a 120+% sales tax or a 60+% income tax.
They wouldn't be able to do it; it's like comparing apples and particle physics. Sales tax is what goes toward roads and the whole infrastructure deal. Not a bit of the income tax goes to the American people. The federal government commissions the Fed to print money, which it does out of thin air. In return, the federal government owes the Fed (a private corporation). So it charges income taxes and pays it back. The Fed pumps money into the economy (by way of the Federal government, which is very grateful), and the income tax is designed primarily to suck money back out of the system to keep down inflation. That's all. Yes, all of your income tax money is wasted, stolen even. Printed out of thin air when someone else wants money, and taken by force from residents of the United States to cover it.
Pissed yet? Hit my homepage and look under Sovereign Citizenship to learn out how to get out of this rat-trap.
Texas isn't a State.
The Constitution doesn't apply here. What theyr'e doing isn't really interstate tax... although I grant you it looks for all the world like it. CA and NY (for example) are federal zones, not States. They're like little spawns of the Federal government, with similar-sounding names as the original States and overlapping the exact borders of the real States. These federal zones are legally opted into by the use of the two-letter abbreviations and zip codes in mail. Since as a resident (legally, more like serf or employee) of the United States they can regulate you on the job as they see fit, they are. Their zones, their rules, and (since "residents" are mere chattel), their people.
Hit my homepage for a more detailed explanation. It's under Sovereign Citizenship.
The problem as I see it is the Emergency War Powers act, which suspends the Constitution and the checks and balances in the federal government in the event of a national crisis or state of emergency... and has been in effect since the 1930's.
It was designed to give the country a faster cornering speed during a national disaster, by making the Prez the undisputed de facto ruler of the country rather than having to worry about everyone's rights. The ocuntry was schnookered into a state of national emergency in the Depression due to the run on the banks (people stubbornly wanting access to the gold in their accounts. Shame on them, pesky citizens) and since then the only person in the country with the authority to take back that ruling has been the Prez himself.. and none has done so yet.
Fortunately, opting out of the whole damn thing is done easily enough. Hit my homepage and click on Sovereign Citizenship for more info.
"I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce."
-- J. Edgar Hoover
Yes, they're forming a new protocol. If they don't manage to get this one into place, they will continue until they do. Finding technological defeats is oodles of fun, but I see it as a quick-fix for a symptom rather than a cure for the actual problem: what to do with an increasingly seller's market which applies strategic pressure on a government to change the rules in its favor. It's now beyond Monopoly... a successful corporate entity can and will terraform its environment to become more favorable to it, rather than adapting to said environment, and as it becomes more and more successful will alter things even more to its liking, in a system of beneficial feedback. Beneficial to it that is... at the expense of all other entities (resembling the model of what the human race has done with "its" environment at the expense of other species).
In this instance, buying foreign alternatives is also a quick-fix, albeit one that will serve up to a certain point and then run out of steam, as the problem isn't exclusive to the United States. Eventually it will no longer be an option, and what then?
I offer a permanent defeat. It isn't strictly technological per se, but there is a way to render all legislation harmless to oneself. For those that haven't heard yet, it's sovereign citizenship, a way to opt-out of federal and what most people think of as state government. It's an individual option, not requiring voting for a certain candidate or lobbying for a cause (which means you don't have to wait for a statistically significant portion of the lemmings to wise up). You just opt out, with the appropriate paperwork. You then are able to lawfully live in the united States, but are out of jurisdiction in terms of legislation and so-called income (actually excise) taxes. Nothing is illegal for you. If someone challenges you on that, you're welcome to sue them in court; courts have been consistently backing sovereign citizenship up against johnny-come-latelies such as the IRS. Personally, I'd like to see the outcome of a soveriegn citizen's lawsuit against these people for intentionally crippling a drive to be compliant with legislation of the federal United States, which the courts have declared to be "a legal fiction" with no sound basis in law.
There are also a few crafty offensive weapons here for anybody who feels like going on the offense. One that springs to mind is a commercial lien against the people setting this attrocity into motion. A commercial lien was designed to give merchants an equitable way to reach justice... it's done out of court, and involves filing papers against specific individuals which damage their credit rating.
I think the most effective weapon is propogating awareness of sovereign citizenship itself. The mainstream media is too well-heeled to touch it, but as awareness of it continues to snowball, a lot of the assumptions we've previously had about the way things are run and exactly who is working for whom will become challenged. Legislation like this wouldn't even be seriously considered if the majority of people understood that federal legislation binds only entities who admit to engaging in interstate commerce (and most Americans are tricked into it via fraudulent wording in common forms). This also means that n a business not engaged in interstate commerce isn't subject to the legislation either; any sovereign citizen who wants to start churning out non-compliant hard drives is welcome to do so... and depending on the wording of the proposal, all they'd need to do is sell them to a third-party who would distribute them coast-to-coast. It works for every legislation one wants to circumvent... and allows a company in this country to do things which are simple legally impossible for other companies to do. As government contnues to encroach, I imagine that will make the prospect increasingly profitable.
For more on sovereignty, have a look at my write-up. Antishyster has more detailed info on commercial liens, among other things.
"I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce."
-- J. Edgar Hoover