oh goody. you're canadian. so now you're argument just went from being whatever is good enough for me should be good enough for everyone is now crossing international borders and adding a further level of cultural seperation.
No one ever thinks it'll happen to them. Until it does. And then it's already too late if you're unprepared. You live in ignorance of the world you live in and dont even know it.
40. Out of 350 million. But hey, that 40 is good enough. Also, youre taxes are just fine for you, and should be for everyone else too. and your car. And your income. In fact everyone should be little murdoch clones.
who needs opposing viewpoints? cause hey, your 0.0000114% sample size is good enough for you, therefore theres no reason for anyone to ever be any different than you.
i just read your post again. damn you are stupid. you're only saving grace is that you arent the most ignorant or most filled with vitriol and illogical hyperbole here.
So lets throw the car execs in jail for every drunk driving fatality. Lets throw the plane mfr's in prison. Lets absolteuly throw everyone in jail for everything.
After all, its easier than actually holding people accountable, and putting the blame where it belongs: on the negligent parents. and guess what, kids are creative buggers, and nothing is ever truly childsafe, you cant even blame the parents every time.
You're basically advocating the firearms version of abstinence-only education: keep your children as ignorant as possible and just hope they never get into a situation where they would have benefited from actually having been educated.
Must be nice living in a secure, well protected and patrolled, gated community with no crime whatsoever and all perfectly normal nieghbors with no chance or fear of them EVER crossing the line and threatening your person. tell me, what job do you work within that safe haven that you and your neighbors also never need to leave it and enter the real world with the rest of us heathens? i mean, i can only assume you have no physical contact with outsides if you're all so perfectly safe. must also grow all your own food, and build all your own consumer goods.
or, more likely, you're ignorant as hell, and half the people around you own guns and simply dont make a big deal or show about it, and you simply dont know it.
that proficiency review is more than just shooting. it includes a lot, more than you obviously acknowledge, of knowledge of the law.
ever seen the binders that hold even a small towns local statutes and codes? thousands and thousands of pages of material. and the cop has to have intimate detailed knowledge of ALL THAT, and its legal interpretations, and the rules and policies of the department in enforcing it.
kno w what im cutting this short: you're an idiot and a troll out to bash cops. Bugger off.
even we gun nuts use teh phrase semi-auto wrong a lot of the time. the masses think its a machine gun. and many gun owners counter and say "it means 1 trigger pull, one bullet" and think themselves enlightened, but even that is inaccurate, because that vague phrasing also includes revolvers, rifles and shotguns that are not automatic (semi or otherwise) designs. (it also technically includes single shot blackpowder weapons)
So we need some terminology:
The steps in firing a firearm are: Cocking (hammer) Firing (trigger pull) Extracting Feeding
Before reloading was the same extracting/feeding, but became a seperate process from "extracting/feeding" with the advent of repeating rifles and magazines. So thats 4 steps the weapon goes through for each shot.
There's Single Action (SA), which means the trigger only drops the hammer (though in the case of revolvers it also advanced the cylinder). Most shotguns and rifles are SA, and many older (way older...1800s) revolvers. Even many semi-auto pistols are SA, requiring the hammer to be cocked manually ont he first shot, and thereafter the cocking is accomplished by the slide as the weapon feeds a new round. this is the oldest design. requires manual extracting and cocking.
There's Double Action (DA), which means the trigger both cocks the hammer, and then drops it. Nearly all revolvers are DA nowadays, and its really what it was made for originally. Many semi-autos are also DA capable, though in their case it really only applies to the first shot, as after that the subsequent action of the slide will cock the hammer for each following shot (known as DA/SA). there are also Double Action Only designs (DAO), which basically means its not possible to manually cock the hammer (usually because its completely hidden internally). Still requires manual extracting of rounds even though revolvers can "feed" the next round (basically revolvers just delay the extraction step and make it past of the seperate Reload process)
as you can see, these first two have to deal solely with the trigger and hammer. Along with this, there were other "actions" that instead of dealing with firing and cocking, dealt with reloading and cocking (lever and pump actions), ie, combining reloading the weapon and cocking the weapon, and then requiring a seperate trigger pull to fire. So a bolt/lever/pump action rifle/shotgun has a SA trigger. so all these "actions" are about combining different parts of the sequence to simplify the process and make it faster.
that's where Automatic and Semi-Automatic (the terms) come into the picture. The holy grail was to combine ALL the steps into one action. And Automatic came first, as seen in the early machine guns (Maxim and Gatling style rotating barrels) that combined feeding, extraction, cocking, and firing all into a single "action", in this case rotating a crank in the early designs. Eventually belts were dropped in favor of magazines, and eventually the seminal design of the Colt 1911 came to exist.
So its not enough to just say that "semi-auto" fires 1 bullet per trigger pull. And common usage does lump DA revolvers in with semi-autos. (but common usage also calls magazines "clips", and most gun afficianados cringe when they hear that word)
So the most correct usage is that a semi-automatic weapon is one in which: one trigger pull initiates one complete cycling of the weapon, using all 4 essential stages of the firing process: firing, extraction, feeding, cocking, in that order, and then STOPS. As such, the semi-auto design requires priming for the first shot, via a charging handle or racking the slide, or similar, which essentially engages all steps of the process EXCEPT firing. (And obviously an automatic weapon is identical except that the cycle does not stop until the trigger is released.)
Ok, so now the batteries are hard to remove, and i just got shot because for whatever reason the batteries died while i was trying to use it, so now i just got shot because i needed to swap batteries and couldnt fast enough.
And since its illegal to not have batteries int eh gun, its effectively illegal to remove the batteries to recharge them, or replace/repair them.
This is not useful, or interesting. It is detrimental and will cost lives. A gun is a tool of last resort that needs to be as close to 100% reliable as possible when it is needed.
The real failure here is trust. No one trusts anyone else, so they trade in their freedom and liberty for some false security because they dont trust other people.
its also much less accurate, much less reliable, and much less safe to operate.
its not enough to just "work". it must work well.
and unless you believe in spray in pray, that means putting rounds on target with reliable precision. that means practice. you practice with your chosen weapon until you can reliably put holes where you need them. and that means hundreds of rounds, through the same gun. and changing hte barrel effectively changes the gun's shooting characteristics. effectively a different gun because it shoots differently requiring more practice. thus, how are you supposed to practice and become reliable with a weapon which requires a barrel change after 10 rounds?
they may be coming, the tech will improve, but for now these things are still just toys being spun out of control by the media, and no real threat to anyone other than the operator.
actually no. the highest teen pregnancy rates are among: hispanics and blacks, low income families, and families in urban areas which puts low income blacks/hispanics in cities in a perfect storm of risk.
Assuming for the moment your lil girl does refrain....that's only half the equation. It takes two to tango, and males are just as likely to carry it as women. HPV is the single most common STD in the world.
How much are you willing to bet that her future husband has been perfect up to that point? Maybe he only fooled around once. Now what about that person? How perfect was he/she? And on and on.
And Cervical cancer (or any cancer) is no joke. It's caused by the herpes simplex of viruses, which also cause several other diseases. It's the most common STD in the world, with 60% of the population OF THE WORLD carrying it, if not more. And you're saying she won't get the vaccine? you're as big an idiot as those who would deny that vaccines even work.
and yes, the vaccine for it isnt perfect and only protects against a couple strains. but it's still a lower chance of cancer.
She may have self-control, sure. But are you willing to bet your lil girls body parts and ultiamtely her life on other peoples' behaviour when prevention is so incredibly easy?
thing is a lot of these diseases dont prevent reproduction of the victim. some of them are fatal, or can be, but many arent. they simply make the quality of life nearly unbearable (polio cripples, mumps causes deafness, etc) compared to health people. and there's also garuntee of getting the disease before reproduction instead of after. so any evolutionary pressure is weak or non-existant
in the past 100 years expeted lifespan has jumped 30+ years in the western world. our quality of life, relatively disease free, was previously unknown. it's still unknown in the parts of the world where they cant get vaccines.
100 years ago being crippled by polio was so common one of our greatest presidents was one such victim. 100 years ago becoming deaf from mumps was common; how many deaf kids do you see today? ya. almost none.
we live longer and better. and vaccines are a huge part of that. if you want to think differently, i suggest you google smallpox, or visit pakistan or northern india where they still have polio cases. look at old history photos of what disease wards used to look like, the myriad different diseases and the pain and sufferign caused by them.
or just look at the number of measles (one of hte msot contagious diseases in human history; a person with measles walks through a room, that room remains contagious for 4 hours afterward) cases in our own country. prior to the vaccine in the mid 60's there were >500K cases every year. Within 5 years it dropped to fewer than 100 cases per year. It's been declared effectively eliminated in our country and the rest of the western world.
the people who think vaccines are bad, or overrated, have no clue what they are talking about, and would be shocked to death by the difference between todays world and that of just 100 years, and the amount of disease and suffering that people had to put up with.
TLDR: you're an idiot. vaccines are one of the greatest triumphs of mankind.
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yes it was ALL THE REPUBLICANS.
Except...the program was established by Bush.
And the DOE overseeing it is largely apolitical, neither right nor left.
so your statements tell us more about your own bias and mental filters, than it does about the actual story.
then they are equaly ignorant. and that's a sucker bet i'd take in a heartbeat I'd be garutneed to win.
troll
troll.
no. No. you dont get to backtrack and try to sound reasonable after saying gun supporters support school shootings. Screw you troll.
oh goody. you're canadian. so now you're argument just went from being whatever is good enough for me should be good enough for everyone is now crossing international borders and adding a further level of cultural seperation.
whooosh.
No one ever thinks it'll happen to them.
Until it does. And then it's already too late if you're unprepared.
You live in ignorance of the world you live in and dont even know it.
40. Out of 350 million.
But hey, that 40 is good enough. Also, youre taxes are just fine for you, and should be for everyone else too. and your car. And your income. In fact everyone should be little murdoch clones.
who needs opposing viewpoints? cause hey, your 0.0000114% sample size is good enough for you, therefore theres no reason for anyone to ever be any different than you.
i just read your post again. damn you are stupid. you're only saving grace is that you arent the most ignorant or most filled with vitriol and illogical hyperbole here.
that honor goes to murdoch.
So lets throw the car execs in jail for every drunk driving fatality.
Lets throw the plane mfr's in prison.
Lets absolteuly throw everyone in jail for everything.
After all, its easier than actually holding people accountable, and putting the blame where it belongs: on the negligent parents.
and guess what, kids are creative buggers, and nothing is ever truly childsafe, you cant even blame the parents every time.
You're basically advocating the firearms version of abstinence-only education: keep your children as ignorant as possible and just hope they never get into a situation where they would have benefited from actually having been educated.
You: Win.
Murdoch: epic fail and ignorance
Well, bully for you.
Must be nice living in a secure, well protected and patrolled, gated community with no crime whatsoever and all perfectly normal nieghbors with no chance or fear of them EVER crossing the line and threatening your person. tell me, what job do you work within that safe haven that you and your neighbors also never need to leave it and enter the real world with the rest of us heathens? i mean, i can only assume you have no physical contact with outsides if you're all so perfectly safe. must also grow all your own food, and build all your own consumer goods.
or, more likely, you're ignorant as hell, and half the people around you own guns and simply dont make a big deal or show about it, and you simply dont know it.
that proficiency review is more than just shooting.
it includes a lot, more than you obviously acknowledge, of knowledge of the law.
ever seen the binders that hold even a small towns local statutes and codes?
thousands and thousands of pages of material.
and the cop has to have intimate detailed knowledge of ALL THAT, and its legal interpretations, and the rules and policies of the department in enforcing it.
kno w what im cutting this short: you're an idiot and a troll out to bash cops. Bugger off.
even we gun nuts use teh phrase semi-auto wrong a lot of the time.
the masses think its a machine gun. and many gun owners counter and say "it means 1 trigger pull, one bullet" and think themselves enlightened, but even that is inaccurate, because that vague phrasing also includes revolvers, rifles and shotguns that are not automatic (semi or otherwise) designs. (it also technically includes single shot blackpowder weapons)
So we need some terminology:
The steps in firing a firearm are:
Cocking (hammer)
Firing (trigger pull)
Extracting
Feeding
Before reloading was the same extracting/feeding, but became a seperate process from "extracting/feeding" with the advent of repeating rifles and magazines. So thats 4 steps the weapon goes through for each shot.
There's Single Action (SA), which means the trigger only drops the hammer (though in the case of revolvers it also advanced the cylinder). Most shotguns and rifles are SA, and many older (way older...1800s) revolvers. Even many semi-auto pistols are SA, requiring the hammer to be cocked manually ont he first shot, and thereafter the cocking is accomplished by the slide as the weapon feeds a new round. this is the oldest design. requires manual extracting and cocking.
There's Double Action (DA), which means the trigger both cocks the hammer, and then drops it. Nearly all revolvers are DA nowadays, and its really what it was made for originally. Many semi-autos are also DA capable, though in their case it really only applies to the first shot, as after that the subsequent action of the slide will cock the hammer for each following shot (known as DA/SA). there are also Double Action Only designs (DAO), which basically means its not possible to manually cock the hammer (usually because its completely hidden internally). Still requires manual extracting of rounds even though revolvers can "feed" the next round (basically revolvers just delay the extraction step and make it past of the seperate Reload process)
as you can see, these first two have to deal solely with the trigger and hammer. Along with this, there were other "actions" that instead of dealing with firing and cocking, dealt with reloading and cocking (lever and pump actions), ie, combining reloading the weapon and cocking the weapon, and then requiring a seperate trigger pull to fire. So a bolt/lever/pump action rifle/shotgun has a SA trigger. so all these "actions" are about combining different parts of the sequence to simplify the process and make it faster.
that's where Automatic and Semi-Automatic (the terms) come into the picture. The holy grail was to combine ALL the steps into one action. And Automatic came first, as seen in the early machine guns (Maxim and Gatling style rotating barrels) that combined feeding, extraction, cocking, and firing all into a single "action", in this case rotating a crank in the early designs. Eventually belts were dropped in favor of magazines, and eventually the seminal design of the Colt 1911 came to exist.
So its not enough to just say that "semi-auto" fires 1 bullet per trigger pull. And common usage does lump DA revolvers in with semi-autos. (but common usage also calls magazines "clips", and most gun afficianados cringe when they hear that word)
So the most correct usage is that a semi-automatic weapon is one in which: one trigger pull initiates one complete cycling of the weapon, using all 4 essential stages of the firing process: firing, extraction, feeding, cocking, in that order, and then STOPS. As such, the semi-auto design requires priming for the first shot, via a charging handle or racking the slide, or similar, which essentially engages all steps of the process EXCEPT firing. (And obviously an automatic weapon is identical except that the cycle does not stop until the trigger is released.)
Ok, so now the batteries are hard to remove, and i just got shot because for whatever reason the batteries died while i was trying to use it, so now i just got shot because i needed to swap batteries and couldnt fast enough.
And since its illegal to not have batteries int eh gun, its effectively illegal to remove the batteries to recharge them, or replace/repair them.
This is not useful, or interesting. It is detrimental and will cost lives.
A gun is a tool of last resort that needs to be as close to 100% reliable as possible when it is needed.
The real failure here is trust. No one trusts anyone else, so they trade in their freedom and liberty for some false security because they dont trust other people.
you didnt even read the summary, let alone TFA, before saying something completely inaccurate and ignorant.
actually pretty typical for a slashdot poster.
its also much less accurate, much less reliable, and much less safe to operate.
its not enough to just "work".
it must work well.
and unless you believe in spray in pray, that means putting rounds on target with reliable precision. that means practice. you practice with your chosen weapon until you can reliably put holes where you need them. and that means hundreds of rounds, through the same gun. and changing hte barrel effectively changes the gun's shooting characteristics. effectively a different gun because it shoots differently requiring more practice. thus, how are you supposed to practice and become reliable with a weapon which requires a barrel change after 10 rounds?
they may be coming, the tech will improve, but for now these things are still just toys being spun out of control by the media, and no real threat to anyone other than the operator.
actually no.
the highest teen pregnancy rates are among: hispanics and blacks, low income families, and families in urban areas
which puts low income blacks/hispanics in cities in a perfect storm of risk.
Assuming for the moment your lil girl does refrain....that's only half the equation. It takes two to tango, and males are just as likely to carry it as women. HPV is the single most common STD in the world.
How much are you willing to bet that her future husband has been perfect up to that point?
Maybe he only fooled around once. Now what about that person? How perfect was he/she?
And on and on.
And Cervical cancer (or any cancer) is no joke. It's caused by the herpes simplex of viruses, which also cause several other diseases. It's the most common STD in the world, with 60% of the population OF THE WORLD carrying it, if not more. And you're saying she won't get the vaccine? you're as big an idiot as those who would deny that vaccines even work.
and yes, the vaccine for it isnt perfect and only protects against a couple strains. but it's still a lower chance of cancer.
She may have self-control, sure. But are you willing to bet your lil girls body parts and ultiamtely her life on other peoples' behaviour when prevention is so incredibly easy?
I thought he thought he was a former congressman
thing is a lot of these diseases dont prevent reproduction of the victim. some of them are fatal, or can be, but many arent. they simply make the quality of life nearly unbearable (polio cripples, mumps causes deafness, etc) compared to health people. and there's also garuntee of getting the disease before reproduction instead of after. so any evolutionary pressure is weak or non-existant
in the past 100 years expeted lifespan has jumped 30+ years in the western world.
our quality of life, relatively disease free, was previously unknown. it's still unknown in the parts of the world where they cant get vaccines.
100 years ago being crippled by polio was so common one of our greatest presidents was one such victim.
100 years ago becoming deaf from mumps was common; how many deaf kids do you see today? ya. almost none.
we live longer and better. and vaccines are a huge part of that.
if you want to think differently, i suggest you google smallpox, or visit pakistan or northern india where they still have polio cases.
look at old history photos of what disease wards used to look like, the myriad different diseases and the pain and sufferign caused by them.
or just look at the number of measles (one of hte msot contagious diseases in human history; a person with measles walks through a room, that room remains contagious for 4 hours afterward) cases in our own country. prior to the vaccine in the mid 60's there were >500K cases every year. Within 5 years it dropped to fewer than 100 cases per year. It's been declared effectively eliminated in our country and the rest of the western world.
the people who think vaccines are bad, or overrated, have no clue what they are talking about, and would be shocked to death by the difference between todays world and that of just 100 years, and the amount of disease and suffering that people had to put up with.
TLDR: you're an idiot. vaccines are one of the greatest triumphs of mankind.
because in the evolutionary war between humans and germs, the germs win.
there's more of them, and they breed faster.
if those 1000 are all from the same generally politically homogenous place, then its still a bullshit poll.
This ignorant idea that working with metal is somehow hard or difficult is directly correlated to the lack of shop class in schools.