we never had net neutrality before. net neutrality didnt even really become a thing until in the public eye comcast bought NBC becoming both content distributor and content owner. you can mention time warner having been there already (though i believe the ISP section was a seperate entity long before). but comcast is the big kahuna of ISPs and NBC (the company, not hte singular channel) is a huge content owner. it was always a possibilty before, but seen as similar to actual nuclear war, fairly low risk. then comcast made a play, and everyone just KNEW what they were aiming for, and its true: we provide you the cable and internet services that benefit us most, namely, the ones we make.
i think weve stretched the road analogy as far as it can go.
and the proper terminology is that roads are not a natural monopoly (though they make a perfect analogy for one) but a public resource, a public property, held in trust by the applicable level of government to facilitate movement of people and goods. the same is true for the airwaves, a public owned resource held in trust by the FCC to facilitate the public good. simply buying out certain freqs doesnt work as different freqs have different properties, some freqs are used for the public safety (think airliners, etc), there would be overlap, dont forget there's more than one modulation type to cover too, and competition wouldn't be based on service but on who could build the bigger/stronger broadcast antennae. its a great big mess. how i know this? cause thats how it was before the FCC was created.
and no the hppie hams couldnt just hire a lawyer....well they could, but the big corps would hire 20 lawyers for every 1 the hams could get. classic lil guy vs big corp: the corps doesnt need to win, they just need to outspend the hams.
too little regulation is as bad as too much. ever read the histories of the turnpikes up and down the original 13 states? there's a reason roads are administered by the DOT.
unfortunately it doesnt have to be the "middle of the desert". there are long stretches of I25 and I40 through New Mexico that are anything but desert and still have zero coverage. same for wyoming and montana.
borax isnt manufactured to start with. fire ants arent native, and even if they were, theyre still a pest costing billions in damage. dutch elm disease is a natural thing, should we just let that one go too? borax devastates ants not because they arent adapted but because its what it does to insects. you can no more adapt to it than you can adapt to lava going down your throat. and its relatively safe to everything else, unlike other pesticides. just like the common permethrine and deet are extremely harmful to cats. nothing to do with adaption, everything to do with chemistry.
in short: you're an uninformed moron, and i find it hard to believe this isnt just some effort at trolling.
some of the western states got their start from borax mining. the stuff is so common its silly. it might as well be called "natural". in nebraska there places it was just laying out on the open ground. it frequently accumulates around seasonal water sources.
and its great on ants. it doesnt kill them right away like your typical Raid does. it takes a day or so, but by then they brought it into the nest, and everyone has drank the koolaid already. its great stuff.
His point about dogmatism still stands. Unfortuantely dogmatism happens all too commonly in scientific debate. People lose sight of the notion of "truth-finding", and get personally involved, either through their egos, their funding/paychecks, politics, what have you.
Oh ya, not denying that. I just being sarcastic at the nothing that once again, the technology magic bullet isnt one, and, zomg!, letting teachers teach is what actually matters.
My wife is one, and she complains often about all the various requirements dont leave much time to go beyond "the script", and the rules even dont allow for it. teachers today arent really teachers or educators, they are isntructors. instructors are like what I had in tech school training for my MOS in the marines. "this is this and then you do this"..."why?"..."who cares why, you just do it Marine!"
if you see where i'm going. like a teachable moment happened, where a kid shoved another for being different in some way. kid was just being a kid, you know how they are, but wife took a moment to lecture about what it means to be tolerant, accepting, how its an American ideal, etc etc etc. But it was outside the curriculum for that time slot, so my wife got reprimanded, officially for teaching history as a music teacher (she's the "cool music teacher" the kids go see for 45 minutes a day), but essentially for going outside the script. Utter BS is what it is though.
if its boring, its the fault of both the kids and their parents. I was poor. Summer was great. If you think money is required, you lack imagination.
And since you spout the two most common pop culture BS myths of people who themselves failed in their education: 1) summer vacation nothing to do with farms. (before the standardized school year, farm kids frequently went to school summer and winter, worked the farm fall and spring) 2) the public education system has nothing to do with training factory workers. it has everything to do with an educated populace being essential for democracy/freedom/etc. you should try actually reading the forefathers.
We need: -year round schooling (with periodic vacations because kids are humans, too).
No we dont.
-fewer standardized tests (read that: none)
Fewer, yes. None, no.
-appropriate homework, tests, and projects
Sure, but that's not the problem, and its like saying "we need oxygen".
-incentives for grades/performance (pay or decreased tuition, leeway with due dates)
The kid likely won't care much about the tuition. And they need due dates. Teaches character, responsibility, etc.
-highly paid teachers/professors
Professors are highly paid. Teachers could mostly use a boost. Funding it is the problem; we spent a lot, but a lot gets funneled away by personel-that-arent-teachers. First you gotta fix that.
if you think about it, its why K-8 is so rigid, then in high school you get latitude to start picking your classes while still meeting some requirements, then college is wide open. that IS your self-discovery. and it works pretty well....IF you let teachers TEACH, and parents start being PARENTS instead of buddies, and dont neglect the real world for book learning or vice versa. It's always been about balance.
And learning geometry and calulus benefits everyone directly, even if you rarely use math....it is about more than numbers, its about learning logic (something manypeople lack), learning a way to think (logically), and you use geometry and calculus every day subconsciously, driving your car for example (and there's other). the math just is a way of representing what you do subconsiously.
Education is about learning to learn, and learning to not be scared of it. As a society we still elevate the unintelligent and put upon the "nerds" and "overachievers". this is backwards.
But kids do need structure. kids are not yet mature enough or simply smart enough yet to understand these concepts of "discovering themselves", and won't be til around age mid teenage years (varies by individual of course). They don't think like adults. They dont have the same values and motivations. They want candy, fun, and their dog Rex. They don't understand yet the need to work overtime to pay for X, they just want daddy home.
Self-discovery is great, but wait until the kid is able to even understand what it means, cause just applying it across the board is going to resort in a lot of middle-aged "kids". And then we'll be bemoaning society even more, and coming up with even more hare-brained schemes.
If he does have an aptitude for math, this is a complete waste of time.
This is why professional athletes never, EVER, go to summer training camp, engineers don't maintain continuing education credits, and math and physics professors never ever work out problems in advance of teaching their classes.
No, that is a myth. But people keep perpetuating it. It has nothing to do with the farm. Any farmer can tell you the vast majority of the work happens in the spring and fall.
Summer vacation exists because two things: 1) Kids do NOT want to sit in a hot building in the summer. A/C has only been common in schools for what, 50 years? If that? and there's STILL many schools that don't have it. 2) Summer vacation came about from the emerging middle class families being seeking to escape the heat. IE, to "take a vacation".
It it not some axiom that all things regress. It simply isn't some blanket statement you can apply to everything and everyone equally like some law. Once again, another core problem with peoples perception. You take this "everyone is equal" thing too far. Some people do not regress. Period. Some people do, a lot. Period. Stop treating or thinking of everyone as some constant value.
Also consider that many many school districts have trouble with funding, even with record high amounts being added every year (cause the money never makes it to the kids/teachers...every adminstrator takes a cut off the top on the way down for some pet project..but thats another topic). so anyway. lack of funding, older building, hot hot HOT summer...so many schools don't have A/C or have inadequate A/C, or just simply cannot afford to run the A/C through the dog days of summer....
then add in the nature of kids, particularly younger ones need a recess to settle them down get that energy out so they pay attention, but it helps people of all ages to focus, but its so damn hot you CANT let them outself for a 30 minute recess or 60 minute lunch cause of liability in the heat....
No, year round schooling is not some magic bullet that automatically means better education. Year round schooling does NOTHING to address the actual underlying probem.
Year round schooling is simply another percieved quick fix the american people are so fascinated with because they dont want to do the actual hard work required, just like the fad crash diet scams, the TSA scanners, etc etc et al.
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we never had net neutrality before.
net neutrality didnt even really become a thing until in the public eye comcast bought NBC becoming both content distributor and content owner. you can mention time warner having been there already (though i believe the ISP section was a seperate entity long before). but comcast is the big kahuna of ISPs and NBC (the company, not hte singular channel) is a huge content owner.
it was always a possibilty before, but seen as similar to actual nuclear war, fairly low risk. then comcast made a play, and everyone just KNEW what they were aiming for, and its true: we provide you the cable and internet services that benefit us most, namely, the ones we make.
NN has never applied to LANs. Do you even know wtf net neutrality is?
this...so much this. voice calls are totally seperate. shavano is just using a "for the children" straw man that is so wildly out of place.
and at this point we just label you moron who doesnt listen or get it and go on our merry way.
well arent you lucky that voice uses so little data its a non issue.
cry me a river chicken little.
i think weve stretched the road analogy as far as it can go.
and the proper terminology is that roads are not a natural monopoly (though they make a perfect analogy for one) but a public resource, a public property, held in trust by the applicable level of government to facilitate movement of people and goods. the same is true for the airwaves, a public owned resource held in trust by the FCC to facilitate the public good. simply buying out certain freqs doesnt work as different freqs have different properties, some freqs are used for the public safety (think airliners, etc), there would be overlap, dont forget there's more than one modulation type to cover too, and competition wouldn't be based on service but on who could build the bigger/stronger broadcast antennae. its a great big mess. how i know this? cause thats how it was before the FCC was created.
and no the hppie hams couldnt just hire a lawyer....well they could, but the big corps would hire 20 lawyers for every 1 the hams could get. classic lil guy vs big corp: the corps doesnt need to win, they just need to outspend the hams.
too little regulation is as bad as too much.
ever read the histories of the turnpikes up and down the original 13 states? there's a reason roads are administered by the DOT.
unfortunately it doesnt have to be the "middle of the desert". there are long stretches of I25 and I40 through New Mexico that are anything but desert and still have zero coverage. same for wyoming and montana.
Awfully wide brush to be painting with. Guess all the Indians drink too much and the dark folk are all lazy too?
Some RV crowds are annoying, but honestly I rarely run into them. most of the folks I meet just use the RV as their base camp.
true, but that's easy to take care of with some additives
borax isnt manufactured to start with.
fire ants arent native, and even if they were, theyre still a pest costing billions in damage. dutch elm disease is a natural thing, should we just let that one go too?
borax devastates ants not because they arent adapted but because its what it does to insects. you can no more adapt to it than you can adapt to lava going down your throat. and its relatively safe to everything else, unlike other pesticides. just like the common permethrine and deet are extremely harmful to cats. nothing to do with adaption, everything to do with chemistry.
in short: you're an uninformed moron, and i find it hard to believe this isnt just some effort at trolling.
some of the western states got their start from borax mining. the stuff is so common its silly. it might as well be called "natural". in nebraska there places it was just laying out on the open ground. it frequently accumulates around seasonal water sources.
and its great on ants. it doesnt kill them right away like your typical Raid does. it takes a day or so, but by then they brought it into the nest, and everyone has drank the koolaid already. its great stuff.
I love wyoming. for me it is heaven when the population density is at 3 or less people per square mile
His point about dogmatism still stands. Unfortuantely dogmatism happens all too commonly in scientific debate. People lose sight of the notion of "truth-finding", and get personally involved, either through their egos, their funding/paychecks, politics, what have you.
Oh ya, not denying that. I just being sarcastic at the nothing that once again, the technology magic bullet isnt one, and, zomg!, letting teachers teach is what actually matters.
My wife is one, and she complains often about all the various requirements dont leave much time to go beyond "the script", and the rules even dont allow for it. teachers today arent really teachers or educators, they are isntructors. instructors are like what I had in tech school training for my MOS in the marines. "this is this and then you do this"..."why?"..."who cares why, you just do it Marine!"
if you see where i'm going. like a teachable moment happened, where a kid shoved another for being different in some way. kid was just being a kid, you know how they are, but wife took a moment to lecture about what it means to be tolerant, accepting, how its an American ideal, etc etc etc. But it was outside the curriculum for that time slot, so my wife got reprimanded, officially for teaching history as a music teacher (she's the "cool music teacher" the kids go see for 45 minutes a day), but essentially for going outside the script. Utter BS is what it is though.
if its boring, its the fault of both the kids and their parents.
I was poor. Summer was great.
If you think money is required, you lack imagination.
And since you spout the two most common pop culture BS myths of people who themselves failed in their education:
1) summer vacation nothing to do with farms. (before the standardized school year, farm kids frequently went to school summer and winter, worked the farm fall and spring)
2) the public education system has nothing to do with training factory workers. it has everything to do with an educated populace being essential for democracy/freedom/etc. you should try actually reading the forefathers.
We need:
-year round schooling (with periodic vacations because kids are humans, too).
No we dont.
-fewer standardized tests (read that: none)
Fewer, yes.
None, no.
-appropriate homework, tests, and projects
Sure, but that's not the problem, and its like saying "we need oxygen".
-incentives for grades/performance (pay or decreased tuition, leeway with due dates)
The kid likely won't care much about the tuition. And they need due dates. Teaches character, responsibility, etc.
-highly paid teachers/professors
Professors are highly paid. Teachers could mostly use a boost. Funding it is the problem; we spent a lot, but a lot gets funneled away by personel-that-arent-teachers. First you gotta fix that.
-internship/apprenticeship programs
That's called summer vacation.
first, fire 75% of the adminstrators.
if you think about it, its why K-8 is so rigid, then in high school you get latitude to start picking your classes while still meeting some requirements, then college is wide open. that IS your self-discovery. and it works pretty well....IF you let teachers TEACH, and parents start being PARENTS instead of buddies, and dont neglect the real world for book learning or vice versa. It's always been about balance.
And learning geometry and calulus benefits everyone directly, even if you rarely use math....it is about more than numbers, its about learning logic (something manypeople lack), learning a way to think (logically), and you use geometry and calculus every day subconsciously, driving your car for example (and there's other). the math just is a way of representing what you do subconsiously.
Education is about learning to learn, and learning to not be scared of it.
As a society we still elevate the unintelligent and put upon the "nerds" and "overachievers". this is backwards.
But kids do need structure. kids are not yet mature enough or simply smart enough yet to understand these concepts of "discovering themselves", and won't be til around age mid teenage years (varies by individual of course). They don't think like adults. They dont have the same values and motivations. They want candy, fun, and their dog Rex. They don't understand yet the need to work overtime to pay for X, they just want daddy home.
Self-discovery is great, but wait until the kid is able to even understand what it means, cause just applying it across the board is going to resort in a lot of middle-aged "kids". And then we'll be bemoaning society even more, and coming up with even more hare-brained schemes.
If he does have an aptitude for math, this is a complete waste of time.
This is why professional athletes never, EVER, go to summer training camp, engineers don't maintain continuing education credits, and math and physics professors never ever work out problems in advance of teaching their classes.
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No, that is a myth.
But people keep perpetuating it. It has nothing to do with the farm.
Any farmer can tell you the vast majority of the work happens in the spring and fall.
Summer vacation exists because two things:
1) Kids do NOT want to sit in a hot building in the summer. A/C has only been common in schools for what, 50 years? If that? and there's STILL many schools that don't have it.
2) Summer vacation came about from the emerging middle class families being seeking to escape the heat. IE, to "take a vacation".
One of many sources of info on this: http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/sarameads_policy_notebook/2010/07/can_we_please_put_the_agrarian_roots_of_summer_vacation_myth_to_bed.html
It it not some axiom that all things regress. It simply isn't some blanket statement you can apply to everything and everyone equally like some law. Once again, another core problem with peoples perception. You take this "everyone is equal" thing too far. Some people do not regress. Period. Some people do, a lot. Period. Stop treating or thinking of everyone as some constant value.
Xen never bothered me. It was a logical consequence of the story.
Also consider that many many school districts have trouble with funding, even with record high amounts being added every year (cause the money never makes it to the kids/teachers...every adminstrator takes a cut off the top on the way down for some pet project..but thats another topic). so anyway. lack of funding, older building, hot hot HOT summer...so many schools don't have A/C or have inadequate A/C, or just simply cannot afford to run the A/C through the dog days of summer....
then add in the nature of kids, particularly younger ones need a recess to settle them down get that energy out so they pay attention, but it helps people of all ages to focus, but its so damn hot you CANT let them outself for a 30 minute recess or 60 minute lunch cause of liability in the heat....
No, year round schooling is not some magic bullet that automatically means better education.
Year round schooling does NOTHING to address the actual underlying probem.
Year round schooling is simply another percieved quick fix the american people are so fascinated with because they dont want to do the actual hard work required, just like the fad crash diet scams, the TSA scanners, etc etc et al.