Um, you know when you exhale? thats CO2 right there, the stuff is not at all dangerous. also, the Frozen stuff is not that hard to come by, and can be used in regular coolers for keeping food cold (the stuff dosn't melt, it turns directly into CO2 gas)
I'm guessing this is a troll, but I thought I would respond anyway, you might have gotten C02 confused with CarbonMonoxide, which can cause problems.
I personally think Bill Joy is a reactionary idiot, (at least as far as politics goes, I really like java:), and a government mandated responsibility for software to uphold a particular moral philosophy is a bad idea...
But coders should take some responsibility for their software.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Re:Most of the software you use is developed here
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Napster, Gnutella, DeCSS, Junkbusters, and almost all the other controversial programs you care to name were developed in the United States. If a U.S. court shuts down the services, then you can't use them no matter where you live.
Wrong, way wrong, actually (DeCSS was not written in the US, I think it was coded in Norway). And neither DeCSS nor Gnutella a 'services' that can be shut down, both are open-source (although the source is not out for the original gnutella, it is an open protocol and easy to implement). No one really needs a new version of DeCSS and there are lots of people writing new versions gnutella.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
If I write a piece of software which sole (or biggest) purpose is to help other people engage in illegal activities then why should I not be as liable for it as a drug dealer is for the drugs he sells?
How is writing software like selling drugs? Holding software authors liable for the criminal activities of others would be like holding hypodermic needle makers liable for people injecting heroin. Hypodermic needles can be used to inject anything, just like Napster can be used to transfer any audio recording (or other file, with a bit of hacking) and DeCSS can be used to decrypt DVDs for lawful purposes.
While a tool can be used for illegal purposes, the illegal acts are not the responsibility of the toolmaker, but rather the actor. The kid trading Metallica over napster is the drug-dealer, not the guy who coded it.
Thats an interesting idea, and I could see how it could apply to software that is sold and possibly should be. On the other hand, I don't see why anyone should be held liable for open-source software that they write (unless they sell it). Perhaps people should be entitled to twice their money back:)
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
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A computer is one of the most powerful things in the history of humanity. One of the most powerful agents of change. Inherent in the very idea of distributed networks is that it makes what was once profitable unprofitable.
Unfortunately, the people who are threatened most by this technology control the world-views of most of the people in this nation.
Computers are a lot like the printing press in what its capable of, the dissemination of information, but it goes far, far, beyond the printing press in the amount of information that it can transfer. On the one hand the printing press ultimately prevailed, and brought great change to our society, but on the other it isn't the 1400s any more. And the very thing that makes computers dangerous to the establishment makes them dangerous to us. What's to stop the FBI from using Carnivore boxes to spy not on email but all network traffic, scanning for copies of DeCSS in transit, or hunting down traffic generated by 'illegal' network programs like Gnutella or Napster? If things go poorly now, in these courts, nothing.
My personal opinion is that we are all pretty much screwed, although some of the reports from the congressional hearing do give me hope.
We don't know how bad things are in north Korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Get a life man; the guy was only floating a theory. I actually was entertained by reading it. If you don't like what he said, tell him why he's wrong. While his posts contained nothing but baseless conspiracy theories, yours contained nothing but insults.
And you don't see me hiding behind an AC name. Of course, I'm 12 hours late, but...
Well, its not like Napster corp is going to loose any money on this:). Anyway, I don't really think that this is a good thing, and I would be very disheartened if napster ended up loosing the case out-right. But an injunction is just that, and I think napster does have some legal legs to stand on.
But, that said, I hope this is an opportunity for Gnutella and napster-clone/clone servers and other non-centraly controlled systems take over, rather then a propritary format.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
There should be a T1 line to every house. It is an injustice if done any other way. The more bandwidth the better.
Just so you know, a cable-modem has a lot more bandwidth capacity then a T1 line (a T1 is 1.5mbits/sec, I belive). Of course, with a cable, you're limitted by the connectivity of the cable office, whereas the phone company you get the T1 to will probably have a lot:)
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Because in the UK they put cameras on street corners, and can put you in jail if you don't provide decryption keys for cyphertext you have in your possession (whether or not you actually have them...)
I'm not saying the US is fantastic, but the UK isn't really that great. Places like Norway or Finland might be a good choice, as long as you're going to learn another language...
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Ever seen a tech tell a manager how to do his job? So why do managers try to tell techs how to do their job?
Probably beacuse telling people what to do is their job... thats just a guess..
The 1 000 000 euro question is why do metric countries still use commas as thousands separators?
Beacuse we use a dot as the seperator for decimal places. $1.000 is one dolar, $12.329 is twelve dolars, thirty two and nine tenths cents.
no, the problem was the person who started the thread wasn't funny...
Um, you know when you exhale? thats CO2 right there, the stuff is not at all dangerous. also, the Frozen stuff is not that hard to come by, and can be used in regular coolers for keeping food cold (the stuff dosn't melt, it turns directly into CO2 gas)
I'm guessing this is a troll, but I thought I would respond anyway, you might have gotten C02 confused with CarbonMonoxide, which can cause problems.
"What happens when our ideals hit the real world?"
Simple, you stick by them, otherwise they arn't ideals.
But remember the golden rule "if one of the sides has lots of money, they are in they are legally right."
When you look at things that way, the laws and actions of the courts and governments are remarkably consistent.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
I personally think Bill Joy is a reactionary idiot, (at least as far as politics goes, I really like java :), and a government mandated responsibility for software to uphold a particular moral philosophy is a bad idea...
But coders should take some responsibility for their software.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Napster, Gnutella, DeCSS, Junkbusters, and almost all the other controversial programs you care to name were developed in the United States. If a U.S. court shuts down the services, then you can't use them no matter where you live.
Wrong, way wrong, actually (DeCSS was not written in the US, I think it was coded in Norway). And neither DeCSS nor Gnutella a 'services' that can be shut down, both are open-source (although the source is not out for the original gnutella, it is an open protocol and easy to implement). No one really needs a new version of DeCSS and there are lots of people writing new versions gnutella.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
I really fell its time to start countr sueing the US goverment on these issues
Its hard to sue the organization that makes the laws, especially since the US government is not liable for any mistakes...
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Hrm... you don't sound like a troll
If I write a piece of software which sole (or biggest) purpose is to help other people engage in illegal activities then why should I not be as liable for it as a drug dealer is for the drugs he sells?
How is writing software like selling drugs? Holding software authors liable for the criminal activities of others would be like holding hypodermic needle makers liable for people injecting heroin. Hypodermic needles can be used to inject anything, just like Napster can be used to transfer any audio recording (or other file, with a bit of hacking) and DeCSS can be used to decrypt DVDs for lawful purposes.
While a tool can be used for illegal purposes, the illegal acts are not the responsibility of the toolmaker, but rather the actor. The kid trading Metallica over napster is the drug-dealer, not the guy who coded it.
Thats an interesting idea, and I could see how it could apply to software that is sold and possibly should be. On the other hand, I don't see why anyone should be held liable for open-source software that they write (unless they sell it). Perhaps people should be entitled to twice their money back :)
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
A computer is one of the most powerful things in the history of humanity. One of the most powerful agents of change. Inherent in the very idea of distributed networks is that it makes what was once profitable unprofitable. Unfortunately, the people who are threatened most by this technology control the world-views of most of the people in this nation.
Computers are a lot like the printing press in what its capable of, the dissemination of information, but it goes far, far, beyond the printing press in the amount of information that it can transfer. On the one hand the printing press ultimately prevailed, and brought great change to our society, but on the other it isn't the 1400s any more. And the very thing that makes computers dangerous to the establishment makes them dangerous to us. What's to stop the FBI from using Carnivore boxes to spy not on email but all network traffic, scanning for copies of DeCSS in transit, or hunting down traffic generated by 'illegal' network programs like Gnutella or Napster? If things go poorly now, in these courts, nothing.
My personal opinion is that we are all pretty much screwed, although some of the reports from the congressional hearing do give me hope.
We don't know how bad things are in north Korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Evolution is making great progress,
Yup, just think, a few tens of thousands of years ago, we were just a bunch of hary monkies running around in the jungle. Now look at us!
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Unless some of you sniveling cowards can prove me wrong, and tell me why Anonymous Cowards should remain.
Here you go
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
What did kevin take down?
corrosion.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
is now a troll.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
You choose the stories at kuro5hin.org
hrm... not anymore...
The idea that a bitchslapped account can still exist is silly.
Change your threshold.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Get a life man; the guy was only floating a theory. I actually was entertained by reading it. If you don't like what he said, tell him why he's wrong. While his posts contained nothing but baseless conspiracy theories, yours contained nothing but insults.
And you don't see me hiding behind an AC name. Of course, I'm 12 hours late, but...
Don't you people have a sense of humor anymore? christ.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
not anymore
VIVA GNUTELLA!
:). Anyway, I don't really think that this is a good thing, and I would be very disheartened if napster ended up loosing the case out-right. But an injunction is just that, and I think napster does have some legal legs to stand on.
Well, its not like Napster corp is going to loose any money on this
But, that said, I hope this is an opportunity for Gnutella and napster-clone/clone servers and other non-centraly controlled systems take over, rather then a propritary format.
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
There should be a T1 line to every house. It is an injustice if done any other way. The more bandwidth the better.
:)
Just so you know, a cable-modem has a lot more bandwidth capacity then a T1 line (a T1 is 1.5mbits/sec, I belive). Of course, with a cable, you're limitted by the connectivity of the cable office, whereas the phone company you get the T1 to will probably have a lot
We don't know how bad things are in north korea, but here are some pictures of hungry children. -- CNN
Because in the UK they put cameras on street corners, and can put you in jail if you don't provide decryption keys for cyphertext you have in your possession (whether or not you actually have them...)
I'm not saying the US is fantastic, but the UK isn't really that great. Places like Norway or Finland might be a good choice, as long as you're going to learn another language...