Bourne is? IIRC csh is installed by default (I moved to tcsh on a recommendation and am pretty much loving it). This was FreeBSD-8.0-RELEASE
I've never done much scripting (I've wrote a few, but that was years ago on bash (I've been out of the loop for a while and only recently started using FreeBSD)).
Even Machiavelli knew that democracies didn't work once you scaled them up. It doesn't matter what technologies you introduce to help make the world "smaller", mob rule (democracy) is not good. It's simple-majority rules with no minority rights. The major benefit of a republic is that the minority not only gets to be heard, but often time gets what it needs, too.
Thank you and no kidding. Look at how I've been modded down as redundant while the OP got modded up as Insightful. What?! That's ok, though. I know this is/. and stuff isn't supposed to make sense.
Better check again, than. The US is a Constitutional Federal Republic (representative government created and limited by a Constitution), not a democracy (mob rule).
I haven't read any of the relevant articles, but the summary doesn't say anyone is urging anyone to opt-out of the settlement. Better headlines, please?
I think White Hats need to not only use that threat, but follow up on it, more regularly so that serious flaws like this get the attention they deserve.
Meh. I still wouldn't trust it. Gentoo or FreeBSD is what I'd choose for a server of any sort.
This really is a pointless conversation as it has nothing to do with the technologies involved (it was JIRA that was compromised, thus gaining root to the server).
So Ubuntu has a server edition. Whoop. I still won't use it. Just my preference. I never stated anything as fact. I started off this discussion with an opinion and will end it with such.
Ubuntu (server edition or not) will never be used as a server by me. It is a n00b distro. Maybe the server edition is better about updates and such than the desktop version, but I really don't care. My opinion is soured.
In my opinion and in this specific case: No, they cannot.
Ubuntu, from my own experiences and from everything I've read, is meant to be a beginner level distro. Sure you could use it as a server, but you can also use Windows as a server. Doesn't make it a good choice.
You really think my reaction is way overblown? So you're saying a code audit shouldn't happen? Maybe a few months is too long but some sort of audit should happen and it should be done by the people who, you know, maintain the actual code.
Take your sarcasm somewhere else. A code audit is not unreasonable given the situation.
A diff of the code before the attackd (say something one of the admins downloaded beforehand, for whatever reason) and after it would still reveal if anything had been altered during the attack; unless there was a commit just before the attack and none of the admins had yet to download the newer code before the attack.
No kidding. While I've only had limited experience with Ubuntu, I can tell it's not server grade. It's made for the n00b crowd who want Linux without the hassle.
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That's pretty much what I thought.
Bourne is? IIRC csh is installed by default (I moved to tcsh on a recommendation and am pretty much loving it). This was FreeBSD-8.0-RELEASE
I've never done much scripting (I've wrote a few, but that was years ago on bash (I've been out of the loop for a while and only recently started using FreeBSD)).
I stand corrected, thank you. (:
Limiting yourself much? Also *nix != bash and bash != *nix though I imagine all shells share a host of similar commands.
Same with Perl.
Even Machiavelli knew that democracies didn't work once you scaled them up. It doesn't matter what technologies you introduce to help make the world "smaller", mob rule (democracy) is not good. It's simple-majority rules with no minority rights. The major benefit of a republic is that the minority not only gets to be heard, but often time gets what it needs, too.
Thank you and no kidding. Look at how I've been modded down as redundant while the OP got modded up as Insightful. What?! That's ok, though. I know this is /. and stuff isn't supposed to make sense.
Sounds like my kind of judge. (:
Better check again, than. The US is a Constitutional Federal Republic (representative government created and limited by a Constitution), not a democracy (mob rule).
Could have included that in the /. summary. *nodnod* Would have made the headline more on-target.
Either way, I'm not affected.
I haven't read any of the relevant articles, but the summary doesn't say anyone is urging anyone to opt-out of the settlement. Better headlines, please?
Volcanic ash has this nasty habit of clumping mightily with liquids.
I think White Hats need to not only use that threat, but follow up on it, more regularly so that serious flaws like this get the attention they deserve.
Yeah, I read that one too. Stoopid, even for /.
So we're looking for ETs who are also ham radio operators?
Proven by /. every single day. ):
I ran Gentoo as a server. Never had an issue.
agreed.
Sorry, this is slashdot. I've been getting a lot of sarcasm and taking a lot of heat lately for my position on various subjects.
Yeah, I do.
(:
Meh. I still wouldn't trust it. Gentoo or FreeBSD is what I'd choose for a server of any sort.
This really is a pointless conversation as it has nothing to do with the technologies involved (it was JIRA that was compromised, thus gaining root to the server).
So Ubuntu has a server edition. Whoop. I still won't use it. Just my preference. I never stated anything as fact. I started off this discussion with an opinion and will end it with such.
Ubuntu (server edition or not) will never be used as a server by me. It is a n00b distro. Maybe the server edition is better about updates and such than the desktop version, but I really don't care. My opinion is soured.
In my opinion and in this specific case: No, they cannot.
Ubuntu, from my own experiences and from everything I've read, is meant to be a beginner level distro. Sure you could use it as a server, but you can also use Windows as a server. Doesn't make it a good choice.
You really think my reaction is way overblown? So you're saying a code audit shouldn't happen? Maybe a few months is too long but some sort of audit should happen and it should be done by the people who, you know, maintain the actual code.
Take your sarcasm somewhere else. A code audit is not unreasonable given the situation.
A diff of the code before the attackd (say something one of the admins downloaded beforehand, for whatever reason) and after it would still reveal if anything had been altered during the attack; unless there was a commit just before the attack and none of the admins had yet to download the newer code before the attack.
Oh hey. A fully patched default installation of Ubuntu stood up next to Mac OS X and Windows Vista.
Doesn't say anything about using it as a server.
I imagine though, that with such an attempt as this, that a freeze on downloads and a code audit would be in order for the next few months.
No kidding. While I've only had limited experience with Ubuntu, I can tell it's not server grade. It's made for the n00b crowd who want Linux without the hassle.