It's pretty much the same as attaching one of those paid reply envelopes to a cinder block when you receive junk mail. I can guarantee that you'll end up on the "for the love of God! Don't send him any more" list
"...No ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter." -- Nathaniel Borenstein
That right there probably just made my week... and it's only Monday.
It's refreshing to read something from someone who understands the tech, criminal, and legal aspects of this type of scenario. I don't see why it's so hard for these people to grasp that the nodes are also other victims. I wonder if they even understand the logistics involved in a global botnet. Criminals don't like paying when they can just appropriate a computer with decent internet to which they've already gained access to use as a node.
You'd be part of the botnet, so by the same logic, damage to your computer would be good. The nodes are usually set up as being another victim's computer. When dealing with thousands of computers used in a botnet, it is most common to see other victim's computers used as nodes. Usually ones with decent internet. This way there is less to trace financially. Servers cost money and money can be traced, especially when a credit card is used. Gift cards can also be traced back to where they were sold.
Not easily. The commercial botnets typically use a command-and-control structure with various proxies or zombied hosts in between the attacker and the victim. Tracing or cracking one's way back through the botnet can often cause more damange to the intermediate hosts than the botnet is causing.
BS. What "damage" will it cause?
Chances are it's just another victim's computer. Since they're being used as a node, it would only be common sense for their to be a script that forcibly removes it from the internet so that you can't follow it to the next level. So by gaining access, you might trigger something that bricks another victim's computer. Why this is done? So that you can't get the IP that is controlling the node, and so that you can't appropriate the other computers that are being controlled by the node.
I couldn't agree more. This plan would generate the largest lynch mob in history. Someone should give Guinness a call... Together we can set a bar so high the record could never be broken.
So, low powered radio transmitters... I wonder how long it will be before this ties into cell communications. It would be nice to have the internet in one's head. Our day draws nearer. I seem to remember that the Chinese were able to pull noise ridden images from test subjects' minds a few years back. Hopefully within our lifetime these will all be combined and jailbroken.
I seem to recall an incident with US soldiers being ordered by one of their superiors to rob a bank. I'd link the incident but, unsurprisingly, google and bing no longer turn up any results.
The security company was responding to an infrastructure attack on their client's business. If they hadn't taken steps, that's when you negate the contract and get someone who will deal with the attacks.
They were attacked, this isn't kneeling, it's demanding that the law enforcement agency takes action. Just imagine how the call to the police went down: "Hello, I'm calling on behalf of the Microsoft Skype division. This person has perpetrated an act of cyber terrorism against our company...."
Why? As an international communications network, it simply adds to their responsibility. If you monitor and log, you then become responsible for policing and making reports. You're mainly looking for keywords and phrases anyways. It would also explain why they contracted a 3rd party security firm to deal with such cases. Skype is monitored, if you don't want to be monitored: back to irc with you.
The kid was one responsible for a DoS attack. Skype procured information on the attacker, forwarding it to their 3rd party security provider, after that it was forwarded to the police. How is this wrong? When my network is attacked by a user, you better believe I pull up their account info for the report. If their minors? I don't care, there will still be consequences, just not a severe, under the law.
Remember the massive attacks on HE a little while back out of China? You know, when the US tried to get a value set on their currency, through the UN, that would have crashed their economy. If I recall correctly, a data line had to be physically cut to stop the attacks. (3 of my servers were affected, and I had to reroute through one I had in Panama to restore global connection)
Back in the day, Tesla had achieved even greater success. Though if you can charge from anywhere, how can you be billed? That is what will permanently stop this type of technology.
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I'd honestly love to see you try to explain what a botnet is to your local police. Welcome to the problem.
It's pretty much the same as attaching one of those paid reply envelopes to a cinder block when you receive junk mail. I can guarantee that you'll end up on the "for the love of God! Don't send him any more" list
That's fine, but that's also not gaining access to a botnet node.
"...No ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter." -- Nathaniel Borenstein
That right there probably just made my week... and it's only Monday.
It's refreshing to read something from someone who understands the tech, criminal, and legal aspects of this type of scenario. I don't see why it's so hard for these people to grasp that the nodes are also other victims. I wonder if they even understand the logistics involved in a global botnet. Criminals don't like paying when they can just appropriate a computer with decent internet to which they've already gained access to use as a node.
You'd be part of the botnet, so by the same logic, damage to your computer would be good. The nodes are usually set up as being another victim's computer. When dealing with thousands of computers used in a botnet, it is most common to see other victim's computers used as nodes. Usually ones with decent internet. This way there is less to trace financially. Servers cost money and money can be traced, especially when a credit card is used. Gift cards can also be traced back to where they were sold.
Not easily. The commercial botnets typically use a command-and-control structure with various proxies or zombied hosts in between the attacker and the victim. Tracing or cracking one's way back through the botnet can often cause more damange to the intermediate hosts than the botnet is causing.
BS. What "damage" will it cause?
Chances are it's just another victim's computer. Since they're being used as a node, it would only be common sense for their to be a script that forcibly removes it from the internet so that you can't follow it to the next level. So by gaining access, you might trigger something that bricks another victim's computer. Why this is done? So that you can't get the IP that is controlling the node, and so that you can't appropriate the other computers that are being controlled by the node.
I couldn't agree more. This plan would generate the largest lynch mob in history. Someone should give Guinness a call... Together we can set a bar so high the record could never be broken.
So, low powered radio transmitters... I wonder how long it will be before this ties into cell communications. It would be nice to have the internet in one's head. Our day draws nearer. I seem to remember that the Chinese were able to pull noise ridden images from test subjects' minds a few years back. Hopefully within our lifetime these will all be combined and jailbroken.
Just get good people into office, make sure there are others in the system who can observe what they do, and we'll get the best results.
That right there is the real problem, and the root issue that needs to be addressed.
I seem to recall an incident with US soldiers being ordered by one of their superiors to rob a bank. I'd link the incident but, unsurprisingly, google and bing no longer turn up any results.
HyperV comes in every copy of Windows 8 64-bit. It's simply a service that needs to be enabled from the windows features list.
The security company was responding to an infrastructure attack on their client's business. If they hadn't taken steps, that's when you negate the contract and get someone who will deal with the attacks.
They were attacked, this isn't kneeling, it's demanding that the law enforcement agency takes action. Just imagine how the call to the police went down: "Hello, I'm calling on behalf of the Microsoft Skype division. This person has perpetrated an act of cyber terrorism against our company...."
Why? As an international communications network, it simply adds to their responsibility. If you monitor and log, you then become responsible for policing and making reports. You're mainly looking for keywords and phrases anyways. It would also explain why they contracted a 3rd party security firm to deal with such cases. Skype is monitored, if you don't want to be monitored: back to irc with you.
The kid was one responsible for a DoS attack. Skype procured information on the attacker, forwarding it to their 3rd party security provider, after that it was forwarded to the police. How is this wrong? When my network is attacked by a user, you better believe I pull up their account info for the report. If their minors? I don't care, there will still be consequences, just not a severe, under the law.
Remember the massive attacks on HE a little while back out of China? You know, when the US tried to get a value set on their currency, through the UN, that would have crashed their economy. If I recall correctly, a data line had to be physically cut to stop the attacks. (3 of my servers were affected, and I had to reroute through one I had in Panama to restore global connection)
And here I thought I was the only one who still used a fountain pen for such things. It's good to see that I'm not alone!
Back in the day, Tesla had achieved even greater success. Though if you can charge from anywhere, how can you be billed? That is what will permanently stop this type of technology.