The article sure seems to describe what simply is a cropping-capable screen capture tool tied to a cloud-based, social web back-end.
Yeah the description and animation of how to use it from the article look really stupid. I hope that's not how this feature it will actually end up. But that doesn't mean the good version of this feature shouldn't be added.
Why add the PageShot feature to the browser when the OS already allows the user to easily capture what's on the screen and has an image editor?
Because the browser is aware of the "canvas" contents of the rendered web page, and the OS only knows the "viewport" contents. This means that if the website contents are larger than the browser window, you only get a partial screenshot. Sure you scroll around to different areas of the page, take screen shots, and stitch them together using a photo editor, but that's time consuming and not really feasible if the web page isn't static.
While I am not a big fan of the extension model mostly because people attempt to make the browser do too much, the browser's core functionality should be supplemented this way to keep the application's file space and resource footprint as small as possible. It also keeps the browser's dev team focused on the core functionality. Let third parties cater to niches.
I agree with the goal of keeping the footprint small. My point is that the ability to simply dump the canvas contents to an image file doesn't really add to the foot print. In fact downloading an extension to do this is probably a much bigger footprint than if they just added it to the core browser. It's such a simple feature, like "save page as html" it could be "save page as image".
Yeah it is a web browser, and one of the oldest job of a web browser is to turn image files and markup into a visual representation. And if you want to somehow capture this visual representation as an image, the best way to do it is through the browser, since the broswer is the authority on how the pages are being rendered.
Previously you had to download an add-on to do this, which is a bit of a pain, and something the browser should support natively, if for no other reason than it is trivially easy for the browser to simply provide the data it already has.
No the browser shouldn't do everything. It should only do things that are browser related. This is browser related.
No, but that doesn't make redistributing wealth necessarily a bad thing. Redistribution can be used to create perverse incentives, but it can also be used to cancel out perverse incentives. The primary mechanism for mitigating negative externalities is taxation (i.e. wealth redistribution). But this wealth redistribution is correcting the market so that the true cost of things is paid by those receiving the benefit, rather than unfairly passing those costs onto others.
A staggering 94% of Republicans, 92% of Democrats, and 85% of independents on Facebook say they have never been swayed by a political post, according to Rantic, a firm that sells social media followers.
I am shocked that the number of people claiming to have their mind changed is so high (~10%). These margins of people who polled that they can be swayed is larger than any margin of victory in a presidential election in recent history.
And that's just the people that admit that they are being swayed.
Who could have ever imagined that this could happen. Remember when we shut down Pirate Bay and completely stopped all copyright infringement? Oh wait, we just spawned hundreds more torrent sites, and even though kickass torrents was just taken down, pirate bay is actually back up again... What a giant waste of money.
If you are asking "How is electing benevolent and competent leaders working out?" I would say "very poorly".
If you are asking "How are the benevolent and competent leaders we elected working out?" I would say "I don't know, because we keep voting for and electing partisan ideologues that agree with our uneducated positions on issues instead".
I don't have to imagine it. There are already pokestops near most starbucks. And it attracts people who would otherwise be at starbucks, to starbucks, but now they are playing pokemon.
Becuase until there was pokemon, people rarely gathered in large crowds conducive to mass murder? How long will it be until someone sets up a starbucks that causes people to congregate at a location and plants a bomb there?
That's why we have a representative democracy. We are not voting on issues. We are voting for people. Those people need to become experts on those subjects, or at least become experts on who the experts are. Our only job is to vote for people who are benevolent and competent leaders. If we do our job correctly, our representatives will select the right experts to listen to, and everything will be great.
I sort of look at it in the opposite way. Lots of individual people will always be dumb, but some smart people can cause "people" (in bulk) to be smart.
All the cells in your body are dumb. None of them know what a cell is, or what you are, or even care, or even can care. But somehow intelligence can emerge out of this blob of dumb things.
I'm not saying this is exactly how collective intelligence works, I'm just saying we are (or at least can be) more than the sum of our parts.
I know that there is an incentive for politicians to do it this way, given that the electorate is informed enough to vote against broad tax increases, but not informed enough to see that specific taxes are bad.
My question was more directed towards the electorate (i.e. stop being dump) rather than the politicians (i.e. stop exploiting dumb voters).
Hopefully by then, we will be fully entrenched in the maker movement, and we will be able to print out our own circuit boards, using machines that we also printed out.
That would be simpler and not create a stupid new law that unevenly spreads the tax burden. You know how judges need to have law degrees? Maybe legislators should be required to have economics degrees.
Explorer (being an application) is also using the OS level copy (i.e. read/write). So yes I'm sure teracopy can replace explorer, but there is no way it's not using the OS level read/write commands.
Yes I mean copying files from one hard drive to another or from one drive to the same drive. Incidentally transfers to a network drive are also slower by about the same factor.
I think it's ridiculous that an operating system released in 2015 can't do file transfers efficiently. Yes I can try teracopy. Or I can go back to windows 7 (which worked perfectly fine), and not rely on 3rd part file transfer programs. The only reason I upgraded to windows 10 was that I was pretty sure it couldn't be (much) worse than windows 7. But after using it for a few months I can honestly say it is a noticeably worse experience.
BTW. Is there any reason you have to think teracopy might work better? Does it bypass the OS in some way (e.g. write cache flushing, etc)? Is it advertising that it fixes this or similar problems? Or is it just a shot in the dark that may work even though we would have no idea why?
I have substitute open source apps for most things. I am quite the open source/free software evangelist. The product I need to use is Autodesk fusion 360, which is a free (to use) cad cam software that only runs on windows and MacOS. The lab I do work at uses this software on the computers connected to it's CNC machines. Even if we could use other software on those computers, there just isn't good open source CAM software. We only now have free (as in beer) CAM software and are pretty grateful for that.
I might try the windows virtual machine route though. Even if I am forced to use proprietary software, I may not be forced to have windows as the OS installed on my own computer.
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oh crap! I didn't know about that! Thanks!
The article sure seems to describe what simply is a cropping-capable screen capture tool tied to a cloud-based, social web back-end.
Yeah the description and animation of how to use it from the article look really stupid. I hope that's not how this feature it will actually end up. But that doesn't mean the good version of this feature shouldn't be added.
Why add the PageShot feature to the browser when the OS already allows the user to easily capture what's on the screen and has an image editor?
Because the browser is aware of the "canvas" contents of the rendered web page, and the OS only knows the "viewport" contents. This means that if the website contents are larger than the browser window, you only get a partial screenshot. Sure you scroll around to different areas of the page, take screen shots, and stitch them together using a photo editor, but that's time consuming and not really feasible if the web page isn't static.
While I am not a big fan of the extension model mostly because people attempt to make the browser do too much, the browser's core functionality should be supplemented this way to keep the application's file space and resource footprint as small as possible. It also keeps the browser's dev team focused on the core functionality. Let third parties cater to niches.
I agree with the goal of keeping the footprint small. My point is that the ability to simply dump the canvas contents to an image file doesn't really add to the foot print. In fact downloading an extension to do this is probably a much bigger footprint than if they just added it to the core browser. It's such a simple feature, like "save page as html" it could be "save page as image".
Yeah it is a web browser, and one of the oldest job of a web browser is to turn image files and markup into a visual representation. And if you want to somehow capture this visual representation as an image, the best way to do it is through the browser, since the broswer is the authority on how the pages are being rendered.
Previously you had to download an add-on to do this, which is a bit of a pain, and something the browser should support natively, if for no other reason than it is trivially easy for the browser to simply provide the data it already has.
No the browser shouldn't do everything. It should only do things that are browser related. This is browser related.
... I asked for it
No, but that doesn't make redistributing wealth necessarily a bad thing. Redistribution can be used to create perverse incentives, but it can also be used to cancel out perverse incentives. The primary mechanism for mitigating negative externalities is taxation (i.e. wealth redistribution). But this wealth redistribution is correcting the market so that the true cost of things is paid by those receiving the benefit, rather than unfairly passing those costs onto others.
A staggering 94% of Republicans, 92% of Democrats, and 85% of independents on Facebook say they have never been swayed by a political post, according to Rantic, a firm that sells social media followers.
I am shocked that the number of people claiming to have their mind changed is so high (~10%). These margins of people who polled that they can be swayed is larger than any margin of victory in a presidential election in recent history.
And that's just the people that admit that they are being swayed.
Who could have ever imagined that this could happen. Remember when we shut down Pirate Bay and completely stopped all copyright infringement? Oh wait, we just spawned hundreds more torrent sites, and even though kickass torrents was just taken down, pirate bay is actually back up again... What a giant waste of money.
And how is that working out?
It depends what you are really asking.
If you are asking "How is electing benevolent and competent leaders working out?" I would say "very poorly".
If you are asking "How are the benevolent and competent leaders we elected working out?" I would say "I don't know, because we keep voting for and electing partisan ideologues that agree with our uneducated positions on issues instead".
How many pokestops do you think there are?
I don't have to imagine it. There are already pokestops near most starbucks. And it attracts people who would otherwise be at starbucks, to starbucks, but now they are playing pokemon.
At least the pokemon exist in an abstract sense.
Becuase until there was pokemon, people rarely gathered in large crowds conducive to mass murder? How long will it be until someone sets up a starbucks that causes people to congregate at a location and plants a bomb there?
That's why we have a representative democracy. We are not voting on issues. We are voting for people. Those people need to become experts on those subjects, or at least become experts on who the experts are. Our only job is to vote for people who are benevolent and competent leaders. If we do our job correctly, our representatives will select the right experts to listen to, and everything will be great.
I sort of look at it in the opposite way. Lots of individual people will always be dumb, but some smart people can cause "people" (in bulk) to be smart.
All the cells in your body are dumb. None of them know what a cell is, or what you are, or even care, or even can care. But somehow intelligence can emerge out of this blob of dumb things.
I'm not saying this is exactly how collective intelligence works, I'm just saying we are (or at least can be) more than the sum of our parts.
I know that there is an incentive for politicians to do it this way, given that the electorate is informed enough to vote against broad tax increases, but not informed enough to see that specific taxes are bad.
My question was more directed towards the electorate (i.e. stop being dump) rather than the politicians (i.e. stop exploiting dumb voters).
Hopefully by then, we will be fully entrenched in the maker movement, and we will be able to print out our own circuit boards, using machines that we also printed out.
That's the beauty of open source software. It doesn't matter who made it, because the creator of the software doesn't get to control it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software
That would be simpler and not create a stupid new law that unevenly spreads the tax burden. You know how judges need to have law degrees? Maybe legislators should be required to have economics degrees.
Explorer (being an application) is also using the OS level copy (i.e. read/write). So yes I'm sure teracopy can replace explorer, but there is no way it's not using the OS level read/write commands.
Every application that performs file copying is using an OS level copy.
Yes I mean copying files from one hard drive to another or from one drive to the same drive. Incidentally transfers to a network drive are also slower by about the same factor.
I think it's ridiculous that an operating system released in 2015 can't do file transfers efficiently. Yes I can try teracopy. Or I can go back to windows 7 (which worked perfectly fine), and not rely on 3rd part file transfer programs. The only reason I upgraded to windows 10 was that I was pretty sure it couldn't be (much) worse than windows 7. But after using it for a few months I can honestly say it is a noticeably worse experience.
BTW. Is there any reason you have to think teracopy might work better? Does it bypass the OS in some way (e.g. write cache flushing, etc)? Is it advertising that it fixes this or similar problems? Or is it just a shot in the dark that may work even though we would have no idea why?
That's how we defeat radical Islam. We DDOS their sharia courts with an ocean of cases. They will never be able to get through them all.
Apparently autodesk and users say rendering doesn't work for fusion 360 in virtual box.
Looking on forums, users and autodesk are both saying that directx/opengl rendering does not work correctly in virtualbox for this app. :(
I have substitute open source apps for most things. I am quite the open source/free software evangelist. The product I need to use is Autodesk fusion 360, which is a free (to use) cad cam software that only runs on windows and MacOS. The lab I do work at uses this software on the computers connected to it's CNC machines. Even if we could use other software on those computers, there just isn't good open source CAM software. We only now have free (as in beer) CAM software and are pretty grateful for that.
I might try the windows virtual machine route though. Even if I am forced to use proprietary software, I may not be forced to have windows as the OS installed on my own computer.