Too bad Hemos.net is the host. It appears to be slashdotted. Why couldn't Slashdot host it locally?
Presuming the files have appropriate HTTP headers, they should be cached in various places around the net. You ARE using a caching proxy, right? There is no excuse for not using one...
If it could be proven that an American citizen was harmed due to Mr. Young's posting of the unedited document, he could and should be held liable for it.
And John Young is responsible for the information being contained in a publicly released file how? He had nothing to do with the release of said information, read my earlier post (72).
This isn't data destruction; these are people's lives.
John Young did not wave a wand and make the censored material appear out of thin air. Lets cover the facts:
Someone made a mistake while censoring the PDF file before releasing it.
Young downloads the file.
Young scrutinizes file which is now sitting peacefully on his hard drive and finds extra information.
Young exposes the "hidden" data.
Conjecture: now that the classified information is known to be comprimised, the agencies involved can take steps to mitigate potential damage.
This is the blackest-hat action I've ever seen.
Sorry, but people have, and will continue to, scrutinize the data stored on their systems. This isn't a novelty, back around 1992 or so someone examined a file called STAGE.DAT in their \PRODIGY directory, and publicly questioned why miscellaneous contents of his hard drive are appearing in Prodigy data files. I'm sure Prodigy would have loved the luxury of turning it around and using him as a scapegoat, but just like now it isn't an appropriate solution.
Considering environmental damage, maybe 10 bucks per gallon would be closer to reality...
Hardly.
Automakers have substantially reduced CO and NOx emissions over the past several years. The net effect is a reduction in emissions from all cars. In fact, Florida is phasing out emissions testing partly because of these general gains.
Global warming? 25 years ago there was much wailing about global cooling. Greenhouse effect? Mt. Pinitubo in the Philippines spewed much more greenhouse gasses in one event than the industrial revolution has ever done.
eventually we're going to run out of gas anyways, and expect gas to cost that $10 after some 15 years anyways, without tax!
Doubtful, considering the historical track record of predicting gas reserves. Here's a hint: if any accepted predictions from the first half of this century came true, we would have no oil now.
There is enough oil for more than 15 years of consumption. Much more.
What makes grappler's posts more important than the rest that his posts start life at +2 automatically?
Those people were not actually created by Almighty God. They are creatures of a more demonic sort, and since their skin is not pure and white like that of decent folk, they are born hellbound, and need to know their place.
So much for love thy neighbor. Lets see, what proof do you have of this assertion? Oh that's right, the Bible. How is that authoritative? Oh that's right, because it just is, and perish the thought of thinking otherwise.
This is reasoning I would expect from a 6 year old.
What a breakthrough! One shouldn't discount the possibility of little microbes swimming about in the water. A space probe would be in order, provided NASA figures out what a meter is.
Cheapest way is to get used to it. I find that the whitenoise from the computer helps mask out outside noises, which is helpful in a college dorm at the intersection of two major roads.
Next semester I hope I don't wind up underneath someone who regularly blasts his stereo while bouncing on a pogo stick. That sucked.:(
An overclocked celeron in an aluminium briefcase with a single large red button next to the handle. I was a bit concerned about airport security when I bought it to the US from NZ as cabin luggage last month. But nobody look twice. Thinking about adding an alarm clock and bundle of candles for the trip back:-)
Airport security wouldn't appreciate the joke. You can't even utter the word "hijack" in jest in an airport without raising alarm.
This isn't a new thing, back in 1991 Penn Jillete (of Penn and Teller) mentioned setting up a laptop with an autoexec.bat file designed to output text implying that it is a bomb. Many people in the security loop wrote PC/Computing (what? Penn had a column in PC/Computing?) expressing their disturbance over the article.
Remember that at airports and airplanes, these goons have uid 0.
While no one argues that open source provides perfect security, it isn't fair to say that open souce is insecure. Bottom line: what would the likelyhood of discovering this bug and getting a fix out be if the source was closed?
Moving my stuff is a pain in the ass, as I will certainly remind you of when it is time to move in and out of the dorm. The biggest pain is moving my computer.
Half the battle is untangling the wiring and other debris and freeing the major components, the other half is dragging the crap to the car. The monitor and computer cases are big and bulky. I'm no lightweight, but a handle would certainly ease hauling the stuff around, particularly since I could use my free hand to carry other stuff.
In spite of a lot of searching, I have yet to find cases which offer a carrying handle. Lack of a market isn't a reason, I bet plenty of college students would love easy-carry cases without getting an iMac.
This travel case modification looks like one solution to my problems, but all I really need is a damn handle (or computer equipment that levitates itself into my car trunk).
The problem may be easily solved if Bidder's Edge made use of some sort of distributed HTTP cache which would already have the relevant HTTP objects stored and would avoid requests of eBay's servers. These caches are populated by other individuals making use of them through other local caches (you ARE making use of a local HTTP cache, aren't you?)
Or maybe it's not such a bad precedent; it'd be interesting if such a ruling helped discourage hard-drive searching by software which searches for "undesirable" content without your consent or knowledge.
You would wish, but thanks to the UCITA the consent issue probably vanishes legally. Better hide those Metallica MP3s.
During the second big indiscretion of the 20th century, the Nazis availed themselves to all the tools an authoritative government can utilize (mostly because they had all the guns). Among the devices used was the suppression of anti-regime ideas in Germany and conquered lands.
Granted, it was a war, and even the United States resorted to censorship and other things that are no-nos under the Bill of Rights. Freedom was suspended in the name of preserving it. The Nazis didn't suspend German liberty in the name of preserving it. Their quest was power, and they won't surrender a bit of it in the name of common freedom.
Towards the end of World War II, France was a complete mess. The French were symbollically liberated when the Allies took Paris. Each soldier that died along the way died for the purpose of freeing the French and wiping this scourge off the planet.
What did the French choose to do once they got their country back in order? Ban pro-Nazi material. Regardless of how good or bad such material is, banning it defeats the purpose of that whole liberation thing.
Judge Jean-Jacques Gomez told the firm that the auctions were "an offence to the collective memory of the country" And censorship sits well with them? I guess two wrongs does make a right.
In retrospect, some of the things both sides did during the Cold War seems rather cruel and selfish. Both sides put live animals into space with no intention of safe retrieval, for example. And, they also planned on nuking the moon.
Keep in mind that, for all intents and purposes, we were at war with the USSR, and rest assured that they'll do those awful things if we don't.
So ask yourself: if it ever came down to it, would you value the moon over your freedom?
The uncertain variable has always been human nature. People get angry, jealous, upset.
I'll agree with you there.
Check out the firearm violence new sometime.
But here comes the demon. I warned you earlier that the media likes to hype up gun incidents well out of proportion.
You may have noticed that the news rarely reports on successful defensive firearm uses. I assure you it isn't because no such defensive uses ever occur. Instead the current media establishment doesn't see fit to report on that aspect of firearms; most major news outlets have a liberal agenda.
More to the point, self defense is a natural human right, recognized by the Bill of Rights. You as an individual can chose not to defend yourself, but it is an enroachment on my liberties for you to deny me access to defensive tools.
I agree with you 100% and suggest you purchase landmines, grenades, armor piercing rounds, saw your shotgun and whatever else makes you feel safer
Quite a quaint ad hominem arguement. Anything else you would like to paint me as?
Meanwhile, I will just try to avoid you since what makes me feel safer is avoiding dangerous situations and people able to do me great harm.
I take it you avoid automobiles since you are much more likely to be greatly harmed by them than by a firearm. Not only is there ample emperical evidence to support this assertion (40,000 Americans dying annually in car crashes versus about 11,000 dying annually by firearms, and about half of those shouldn't count because they are suicides) but good theory: general use of a motor vehicle is dangerous, while general use of a firearm is relatively safe because the firearm spends 90% of its time sitting in a holster.
Don't be swayed by sensationalism in the media, guns aren't evil.
Sometimes shit happens. Why does most of the gun related shit seem to happen here to us in the USA? Could easy unmonitored access to firearms have *anything* to do with it?
If violence brought upon unarmed innocent persons is acceptable in the name of perceived safety, then I submit that it is equally acceptable for everyone to be armed in the name of proven safety.
You argue that you have a right to take away my means of self defense in the name of your perceived self defense. If my self defense isn't important, and we are equals, than your defense is moot, and you have no latitude to deny me my right to self protection.
Sometimes, shit does happen. Would you rather the shit happened to some asshole thug, or an innocent victim?
Carbon 13 dating has been substantiated through a number of emperical observations. How many observations were there to substantiate this belief "...that some isotopes in meteorites existed only in that period..."
Without more information, I can't readily believe this conclusion.
A person's thoughts simply cannot harm anyone else by themselves, and private data sitting on someone's harddrive cannot harm anyone either. For a crime to have been committed, there has to be some manifestation beyond someone's thoughts or private data.
As individuals, the sovereignty and dignity of these areas is fundamental, therefore it should be regarded as being well beyond society's purview. Society's interests can be served just as well without any need to intrude into these areas.
As we have seen, however, society doesn't quite give a damn about individual rights in some instances. At least in the United States the Bill of Rights recognizes these rights in the first, second (metaphorically) and fifth ammendments.
But these ammendments aren't magic. They need constant defense and recognition. Recognition only comes from excersise. Do your part and use encryption. The more people who do, the stronger these rights become.
Easy. I had nothing to do with their kids being brought into this world. Yet in spite of my not having anything to do with these children suddenly zooming out into the world, I have to suffer with:
1. Filtering software, blocking everything some twit or other thinks is offensive.
2. Childproof lighters, which amount to nothing more than perpetual butane containers.
3. Childproof medicine bottles, because a 70 year old arthritic who lives alone will never know when a 4 year old will magically appear and start gobbling up the medicine like candy.
The way I see it, all of the above is silly. It is not my fault if parents cannot or will not properly raise their children, so I don't want to be bothered with their schemes that makes me their involuntary baby sitter. As the saying goes, if you do the crime, you do the time.
Slashdot Mirror
Too bad Hemos.net is the host. It appears to be slashdotted. Why couldn't Slashdot host it locally?
Presuming the files have appropriate HTTP headers, they should be cached in various places around the net. You ARE using a caching proxy, right? There is no excuse for not using one...
If it could be proven that an American citizen was harmed due to Mr. Young's posting of the unedited document, he could and should be held liable for it.
And John Young is responsible for the information being contained in a publicly released file how? He had nothing to do with the release of said information, read my earlier post (72).
This isn't data destruction; these are people's lives.
John Young did not wave a wand and make the censored material appear out of thin air. Lets cover the facts:
Conjecture: now that the classified information is known to be comprimised, the agencies involved can take steps to mitigate potential damage.
This is the blackest-hat action I've ever seen.
Sorry, but people have, and will continue to, scrutinize the data stored on their systems. This isn't a novelty, back around 1992 or so someone examined a file called STAGE.DAT in their \PRODIGY directory, and publicly questioned why miscellaneous contents of his hard drive are appearing in Prodigy data files. I'm sure Prodigy would have loved the luxury of turning it around and using him as a scapegoat, but just like now it isn't an appropriate solution.
Considering environmental damage, maybe 10 bucks per gallon would be closer to reality...
Hardly.
eventually we're going to run out of gas anyways, and expect gas to cost that $10 after some 15 years anyways, without tax!
Doubtful, considering the historical track record of predicting gas reserves. Here's a hint: if any accepted predictions from the first half of this century came true, we would have no oil now.
There is enough oil for more than 15 years of consumption. Much more.
Great idea! I don't like the location though, but thats trivial. Who else is up for it?
What makes grappler's posts more important than the rest that his posts start life at +2 automatically?
Those people were not actually created by Almighty God. They are creatures of a more demonic sort, and since their skin is not pure and white like that of decent folk, they are born hellbound, and need to know their place.
So much for love thy neighbor. Lets see, what proof do you have of this assertion? Oh that's right, the Bible. How is that authoritative? Oh that's right, because it just is, and perish the thought of thinking otherwise.
This is reasoning I would expect from a 6 year old.
newton vs. pound, no meters involved
Point taken.
unless you want to be really anal
And you certainly aren't anal, right?
but that's beside my point, you're still a moron.
I see. I suppose I am also a "fucktard".
Now, if you stick to posts like this and you should be fine.
What a breakthrough! One shouldn't discount the possibility of little microbes swimming about in the water. A space probe would be in order, provided NASA figures out what a meter is.
Good show! Keep eyes closed, keep mind ignorant, the Bible is the truth, because we say so.
Cheapest way is to get used to it. I find that the whitenoise from the computer helps mask out outside noises, which is helpful in a college dorm at the intersection of two major roads.
Next semester I hope I don't wind up underneath someone who regularly blasts his stereo while bouncing on a pogo stick. That sucked. :(
An overclocked celeron in an aluminium briefcase with a single large red button next to the handle. I was a bit concerned about airport security when I bought it to the US from NZ as cabin luggage last month. But nobody look twice. Thinking about adding an alarm clock and bundle of candles for the trip back :-)
Airport security wouldn't appreciate the joke. You can't even utter the word "hijack" in jest in an airport without raising alarm.
This isn't a new thing, back in 1991 Penn Jillete (of Penn and Teller) mentioned setting up a laptop with an autoexec.bat file designed to output text implying that it is a bomb. Many people in the security loop wrote PC/Computing (what? Penn had a column in PC/Computing?) expressing their disturbance over the article.
Remember that at airports and airplanes, these goons have uid 0.
While no one argues that open source provides perfect security, it isn't fair to say that open souce is insecure. Bottom line: what would the likelyhood of discovering this bug and getting a fix out be if the source was closed?
In that case (hehe), try a PC Tote. :)
Just what the doctor ordered!
Another poster posted that link earlier, but I surf slashdot with a +3 threshold, so I missed it. Kudos to both you and the other guy for the link!
Moving my stuff is a pain in the ass, as I will certainly remind you of when it is time to move in and out of the dorm. The biggest pain is moving my computer.
Half the battle is untangling the wiring and other debris and freeing the major components, the other half is dragging the crap to the car. The monitor and computer cases are big and bulky. I'm no lightweight, but a handle would certainly ease hauling the stuff around, particularly since I could use my free hand to carry other stuff.
In spite of a lot of searching, I have yet to find cases which offer a carrying handle. Lack of a market isn't a reason, I bet plenty of college students would love easy-carry cases without getting an iMac.
This travel case modification looks like one solution to my problems, but all I really need is a damn handle (or computer equipment that levitates itself into my car trunk).
The problem may be easily solved if Bidder's Edge made use of some sort of distributed HTTP cache which would already have the relevant HTTP objects stored and would avoid requests of eBay's servers. These caches are populated by other individuals making use of them through other local caches (you ARE making use of a local HTTP cache, aren't you?)
Or maybe it's not such a bad precedent; it'd be interesting if such a ruling helped discourage hard-drive searching by software which searches for "undesirable" content without your consent or knowledge.
You would wish, but thanks to the UCITA the consent issue probably vanishes legally. Better hide those Metallica MP3s.
During the second big indiscretion of the 20th century, the Nazis availed themselves to all the tools an authoritative government can utilize (mostly because they had all the guns). Among the devices used was the suppression of anti-regime ideas in Germany and conquered lands.
Granted, it was a war, and even the United States resorted to censorship and other things that are no-nos under the Bill of Rights. Freedom was suspended in the name of preserving it. The Nazis didn't suspend German liberty in the name of preserving it. Their quest was power, and they won't surrender a bit of it in the name of common freedom.
Towards the end of World War II, France was a complete mess. The French were symbollically liberated when the Allies took Paris. Each soldier that died along the way died for the purpose of freeing the French and wiping this scourge off the planet.
What did the French choose to do once they got their country back in order? Ban pro-Nazi material. Regardless of how good or bad such material is, banning it defeats the purpose of that whole liberation thing.
Judge Jean-Jacques Gomez told the firm that the auctions were "an offence to the collective memory of the country" And censorship sits well with them? I guess two wrongs does make a right.
In retrospect, some of the things both sides did during the Cold War seems rather cruel and selfish. Both sides put live animals into space with no intention of safe retrieval, for example. And, they also planned on nuking the moon.
Keep in mind that, for all intents and purposes, we were at war with the USSR, and rest assured that they'll do those awful things if we don't.
So ask yourself: if it ever came down to it, would you value the moon over your freedom?
The uncertain variable has always been human nature. People get angry, jealous, upset.
I'll agree with you there.
Check out the firearm violence new sometime.
But here comes the demon. I warned you earlier that the media likes to hype up gun incidents well out of proportion.
You may have noticed that the news rarely reports on successful defensive firearm uses. I assure you it isn't because no such defensive uses ever occur. Instead the current media establishment doesn't see fit to report on that aspect of firearms; most major news outlets have a liberal agenda.
More to the point, self defense is a natural human right, recognized by the Bill of Rights. You as an individual can chose not to defend yourself, but it is an enroachment on my liberties for you to deny me access to defensive tools.
I agree with you 100% and suggest you purchase landmines, grenades, armor piercing rounds, saw your shotgun and whatever else makes you feel safer
Quite a quaint ad hominem arguement. Anything else you would like to paint me as?
Meanwhile, I will just try to avoid you since what makes me feel safer is avoiding dangerous situations and people able to do me great harm.
I take it you avoid automobiles since you are much more likely to be greatly harmed by them than by a firearm. Not only is there ample emperical evidence to support this assertion (40,000 Americans dying annually in car crashes versus about 11,000 dying annually by firearms, and about half of those shouldn't count because they are suicides) but good theory: general use of a motor vehicle is dangerous, while general use of a firearm is relatively safe because the firearm spends 90% of its time sitting in a holster.
Don't be swayed by sensationalism in the media, guns aren't evil.
Sometimes shit happens. Why does most of the gun related shit seem to happen here to us in the USA? Could easy unmonitored access to firearms have *anything* to do with it?
If violence brought upon unarmed innocent persons is acceptable in the name of perceived safety, then I submit that it is equally acceptable for everyone to be armed in the name of proven safety.
You argue that you have a right to take away my means of self defense in the name of your perceived self defense. If my self defense isn't important, and we are equals, than your defense is moot, and you have no latitude to deny me my right to self protection.
Sometimes, shit does happen. Would you rather the shit happened to some asshole thug, or an innocent victim?
Carbon 13 dating has been substantiated through a number of emperical observations. How many observations were there to substantiate this belief "...that some isotopes in meteorites existed only in that period..."
Without more information, I can't readily believe this conclusion.
Why bother with this? Everyone should be using cacheing HTTP proxies anyway, to distribute the load.
A person's thoughts simply cannot harm anyone else by themselves, and private data sitting on someone's harddrive cannot harm anyone either. For a crime to have been committed, there has to be some manifestation beyond someone's thoughts or private data.
As individuals, the sovereignty and dignity of these areas is fundamental, therefore it should be regarded as being well beyond society's purview. Society's interests can be served just as well without any need to intrude into these areas.
As we have seen, however, society doesn't quite give a damn about individual rights in some instances. At least in the United States the Bill of Rights recognizes these rights in the first, second (metaphorically) and fifth ammendments.
But these ammendments aren't magic. They need constant defense and recognition. Recognition only comes from excersise. Do your part and use encryption. The more people who do, the stronger these rights become.
Easy. I had nothing to do with their kids being brought into this world. Yet in spite of my not having anything to do with these children suddenly zooming out into the world, I have to suffer with:
1. Filtering software, blocking everything some twit or other thinks is offensive.
2. Childproof lighters, which amount to nothing more than perpetual butane containers.
3. Childproof medicine bottles, because a 70 year old arthritic who lives alone will never know when a 4 year old will magically appear and start gobbling up the medicine like candy.
The way I see it, all of the above is silly. It is not my fault if parents cannot or will not properly raise their children, so I don't want to be bothered with their schemes that makes me their involuntary baby sitter. As the saying goes, if you do the crime, you do the time.