How is this Nazi-like? I would love it if my great-grandkids could escape my bad eyes, allergies, and Asperger's Syndrome. If they were smarter that would be terrific. Read Heinlein's "Beyond This Horizon". Would you accuse your dentist of being a Nazi? And no, I don't give a damn what color or gender my descendants are.
I was trained in a traditional fighting art and *I* don't joke about it. Many people (males, anyway) do, and you can usually tell in context and by body language that they're not serious. But some are truly hostile, scary when they say this, but claim afterward that they were only "joking". It puts a school admin in a tough spot if this is documented. I learned that noone could "surprise" an advanced student in the studio; their body language always gave them away. But when I go to certain neighborhoods, my skin crawls, because half the males there present the body language of an immanent attack. Usually they don't. But I have no doubt that they are capable of it, given little provocation. How will this tool be used by a clueless, inumerate (doesn't understand probabilities), possible prejudiced school official? - freehand
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Suzette Hadin Elgin, Ph.D. in linguistics, has written some fine fantasy books. Not action, definitely not cyberpunk - there's more of the Anne McCaffery about her than the William Gibson. The Ozark Series, if you're into that sort of thing. Snow Crash is great fun.
Or at Tucows under X-servers. Works great. $99 shareware. If you don't pay the shareware is fully functional except a 30-minute time-limit (& then you can log back in). Worth the money, if you have it. MI/X's TWM is funky.
I would prefer a culture that is comfortable with artistic experimentation, but the humanities do seem rife with scam artists these days. Getting upsetover this stuff is trivial, butwhy should I pay for "Piss Christ", the dung Madonna, Andy Warhol's soup cans, or Jackson Pollack's earthworm paintings. Many years ago, I got up and left a John Cage concert. The artistically insecure, who remained behind, were subjected to another 40 minutes of excruciatingly boring audience noises, while Cage sat at the piano. Yeah, the general population are peasants, but if they want to spend their tax dollars on John Keene paintings or baseball stadiums, well, it's their money.
We do *not* have a right to threaten someone, forcing him to teach in a guarded, unmarked classroom. This is what Katz was talking about. He *unecessarily* emphasized that he was neither agreeing nor disageeing with Singer (altho I'm sure he has an opinion) but rather was concerned about the culture-sanctioned violence and threats unpopular opinions generate. Who was picking on white male Christians, anyway? And are you implying that anyone who is not white, male, or Christian is more likely to be Liberal? If that were true, do you think there'd be a reason for it? - former white male Christian (still 2 out of 3)
Ahem. I didn't see any reference to white male Christians until you brought it up. Are you saying that if you disagree with someone, they *should* have to teach in a guarded, unlisted classroom? Yeah, right. And am I correct in inferring that you believe that anyone who is *not* white, male, or Christian tends to be a Liberal? If so, do you think that, the more truth there is in that statement, the more reason there would be for them to be so?
- From a former white male Christian (still 2 out of 3)
Religions abhor murder. Hmm. The Hebrews and the Canaanites. The Hindus & Muslims in India. The Eastern Orthodox and the Muslims & the Catholics in Bosnia, Serbia, et al. The Catholics in South America, Protestants in North America. Etc. Ireland. (sigh)
Hasn't anyone here read Heinlein's "Beyond This Horizon?"
** We are the first generation of Morlocks. Eat the Rich! **
Uh... hacking is not a crime. Hacking means playing, taking apart, learning how something works, especially regarding computers. I am a geek, but I would not call myself a hacker only because that implies a certain level of expertise. This is equivalent to the Chinese term "kung fu", which properly translates as "one who has achieved mastery thru much hard work".
And who cares about the difference between memory and storage? We all know that most users use them interchangeably... If gangsters called themselves "warriors" do you think that US Marines might object? Language is living, absolutely, but that doesn't mean that words can'tbe used incorrectly. Look at the confusion most people have regarding "drugs" and "narcotics", thanks to our "war on drugs". But the *real* authorities on these subjects, the medical establishment, still uses them correctly. Is part of the government's plan to deliberately confuse hacker & cracker, or are they just stupid?
The DEA fights "drug use", yet most of them use antibiotics when prescribed, coffee, ethanol, aspirin, and/or cigarettes. And the "just say no" campaign is about as effective as you would expect from such confusion.
Now we have a new "war on hacking", even tho we all know that hacking is just playing and a search for excellence. Who's gonna write their programs? The M$ marketing department?
- freehand, a proud user of drugs(coffee) and a hacker wannabee
And that core nerd trait would be... great wealth? I am a self-taught sysadmin runningan HP-UX network of 60 or so nodes; our office machines are M$ boxes connected thru samba. Are you suggesting that I buy "only the best" software & hardware for my company? I clean the printers, upgrade the hardware, train the users, write the inventory barcode perl scripts, maintain security, etc. I'mnothalfas smart as half of you, but by Darwin, I'm doing real work and have real contraints. If it works, I use it. I don't have time for replacing "good enuf" with elegance. A sawmill has a limited budget for their MIS department. - freehand
Perhaps no practical uses have been suggested for this because practical people have seen no evidence for this. *sigh* I would love for any of this to be so, really, but it seems that the better the measurements or statistical analysis, the closer to zero are the paranormal "micro" abilities.
And you know this... how? Divine inspiration? Akashic record? If you can't give me evidence, at least offer a cogent arguement.
Ah, yes. They may have feelings and thoughts, but not a soul, eh? Descartes said that a tortured dog mimicked pain, but he couldn't really feel it, because he had no soul. And you need a soul to feel, right?
I bought a book on Chinese swordfighting techniques, and the inside front cover warned that the book "was for educational purposes only, and... practicing these techniques with real blades could be dangerous". All my books on exercise admonish the reader to check with his or her doctor first.
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How is this Nazi-like? I would love it if my great-grandkids could escape my bad eyes, allergies, and Asperger's Syndrome. If they were smarter that would be terrific. Read Heinlein's "Beyond This Horizon".
Would you accuse your dentist of being a Nazi? And no, I don't give a damn what color or gender my descendants are.
>> Humans are born with instincts, but anything can be learned whether one has his underlying machinery in order or not.
Oh, really? Try ingesting a fifth of whiskey daily for a few months and let me know how your hacking goes...
- freehand
I was trained in a traditional fighting art and *I* don't joke about it. Many people (males, anyway) do, and you can usually tell in context and by body language that they're not serious. But some are truly hostile, scary when they say this, but claim afterward that they were only "joking". It puts a school admin in a tough spot if this is documented. I learned that noone could "surprise" an advanced student in the studio; their body language always gave them away. But when I go to certain neighborhoods, my skin crawls, because half the males there present the body language of an immanent attack. Usually they don't. But I have no doubt that they are capable of it, given little provocation.
How will this tool be used by a clueless, inumerate (doesn't understand probabilities), possible prejudiced school official?
- freehand
Suzette Hadin Elgin, Ph.D. in linguistics, has written some fine fantasy books. Not action, definitely not cyberpunk - there's more of the Anne McCaffery about her than the William Gibson.
The Ozark Series, if you're into that sort of thing.
Snow Crash is great fun.
http://www.labf.com
Or at Tucows under X-servers. Works great. $99
shareware. If you don't pay the shareware is fully
functional except a 30-minute time-limit (& then you can log back in). Worth the money, if you have it. MI/X's TWM is funky.
It makes their testicles shrink, too.
But: does it improve their memory?
I would prefer a culture that is comfortable with artistic experimentation, but the humanities do seem rife with scam artists these days. Getting upsetover this stuff is trivial, butwhy should I pay for "Piss Christ", the dung Madonna, Andy Warhol's soup cans, or Jackson Pollack's earthworm paintings. Many years ago, I got up and left a John Cage concert. The artistically insecure, who remained behind, were subjected to another 40 minutes of excruciatingly boring audience noises, while Cage sat at the piano. Yeah, the general population are peasants, but if they want to spend their tax dollars on John Keene paintings or baseball stadiums, well, it's their money.
We do *not* have a right to threaten someone, forcing him to teach in a guarded, unmarked classroom. This is what Katz was talking about.
He *unecessarily* emphasized that he was neither agreeing nor disageeing with Singer (altho I'm sure he has an opinion) but rather was concerned about the culture-sanctioned violence and threats unpopular opinions generate. Who was picking on white male Christians, anyway? And are you implying that anyone who is not white, male, or Christian is more likely to be Liberal? If that were true, do you think there'd be a reason for it?
- former white male Christian (still 2 out of 3)
Ahem. I didn't see any reference to white male Christians until you brought it up. Are you saying that if you disagree with someone, they *should* have to teach in a guarded, unlisted classroom?
Yeah, right. And am I correct in inferring that you believe that anyone who is *not* white, male, or Christian tends to be a Liberal? If so, do you think that, the more truth there is in that statement, the more reason there would be for them to be so?
- From a former white male Christian (still 2 out of 3)
Religions abhor murder. Hmm. The Hebrews and the Canaanites. The Hindus & Muslims in India. The Eastern Orthodox and the Muslims & the Catholics in Bosnia, Serbia, et al. The Catholics in South America, Protestants in North America. Etc. Ireland. (sigh)
Hasn't anyone here read Heinlein's "Beyond This Horizon?"
** We are the first generation of Morlocks. Eat the Rich! **
Uh... hacking is not a crime. Hacking means playing, taking apart, learning how something works, especially regarding computers. I am a geek, but I would not call myself a hacker only because that implies a certain level of expertise.
This is equivalent to the Chinese term "kung fu",
which properly translates as "one who has achieved mastery thru much hard work".
And who cares about the difference between memory and storage? We all know that most users use them interchangeably... If gangsters called themselves
"warriors" do you think that US Marines might object? Language is living, absolutely, but that doesn't mean that words can'tbe used incorrectly.
Look at the confusion most people have regarding "drugs" and "narcotics", thanks to our "war on drugs". But the *real* authorities on these subjects, the medical establishment, still uses them correctly. Is part of the government's plan to deliberately confuse hacker & cracker, or are they just stupid?
The DEA fights "drug use", yet most of them use antibiotics when prescribed, coffee, ethanol, aspirin, and/or cigarettes. And the "just say no" campaign is about as effective as you would expect from such confusion.
Now we have a new "war on hacking", even tho we all know that hacking is just playing and a search for excellence. Who's gonna write their programs?
The M$ marketing department?
- freehand, a proud user of drugs(coffee) and
a hacker wannabee
And that core nerd trait would be... great wealth?
I am a self-taught sysadmin runningan HP-UX network of 60 or so nodes; our office machines are
M$ boxes connected thru samba. Are you suggesting that I buy "only the best" software & hardware for my company? I clean the printers, upgrade the hardware, train the users, write the inventory barcode perl scripts, maintain security, etc.
I'mnothalfas smart as half of you, but by Darwin, I'm doing real work and have real contraints. If it works, I use it. I don't have time for replacing "good enuf" with elegance. A sawmill has a limited budget for their MIS department.
- freehand
Perhaps no practical uses have been suggested for this because practical people have seen no evidence for this. *sigh* I would love for any of this to be so, really, but it seems that the better the measurements or statistical analysis, the closer to zero are the paranormal "micro" abilities.
And you know this... how? Divine inspiration? Akashic record? If you can't give me evidence, at least offer a cogent arguement.
Ah, yes. They may have feelings and thoughts, but not a soul, eh? Descartes said that a tortured dog mimicked pain, but he couldn't really feel it, because he had no soul. And you need a soul to feel, right?
Penache? Savoir faire? Grit? Pheromones?
I bought a book on Chinese swordfighting techniques, and the inside front cover warned that the book "was for educational purposes only, and... practicing these techniques with real blades could be dangerous". All my books on exercise admonish the reader to check with his or her doctor first.
- freehand