And so my being asked to leave or avoid attending alcohol anonymous groups where I actively encourage drinking abuse and drugs would be another example of bigotry I suppose? Perhaps I can manifest the virtues of constant inebriation sufficiently such that a convincing argument can be made, but do you really think that an AA meeting is a good and proper place to do so? I'm curious if you were able to answer my original question: where do you get your moral basis?
Have any of the people that are so vehementally against the BSA for their values system even stopped to consider exactly what they are against? BSA have said they don't believe homosexuality *is not* a morally positive decision and that a belief in a Christian God *is* a morally positive decision. There is no attempt to recruit an army of young people that will go out and injure people because of their beliefs. There are no brain washing attempts being made. They are saying simply that the tenets of the Christian belief system are positive and constructive for teaching young people. If you can stop for just a minute, clear your mind of all your knee-jerk reactions and set aside the two pieces of the BSA that you don't agree with, why can't you see the overwhelmingly positive contributions it does make to the youth of America?
In the complete absence of moral discrimination, anything is permissible. Are you looking to the laws of the land to define what is morally permissible and what is not? If so, your "morality" over the last 100 years would have changed drastically! Do you look to your own insight and experience to define what is morally permissible? How frequently has that changed as you've aged and had various experiences? How much more will it change in the coming years?
Do you have a fundamental disagreement with the following Christian beliefs?:
Are any of the neigh sayers out there going to dispute that these are not only positive virtues in a civilized society but also something that we are lacking more and more of in the United States and the world? Would you not agree that sexuality can and has and will be used in destructive immoral ways? Do you disagree that relationships, young lives, and even entire societies have all been destroyed because of a lack of sexual morality?
The BSA and other organizations that are based on Judeo-Christian principles recognize that these values go a long way in teaching young people to become capable, responsible members of society. Good for them! And they do so with the best interests of the their scouts in heart and mind.
If you completely reject any religious belief system as "mythical", "hateful", or "unprovable", then I'd like you to take a minute to consider your actions in life. Why do you occasionally help out a neighbor with his weekend project? Why do you give money to your local animal shelter? Why do you attempt to not cheat on your spouse? Why do you bother to be honest when working the checkout counter where you work? Why are you trying to make a greener Earth for tomorrow? Where did you get the idea that these are good things to do and worth the investment of your precious and limited time?
If you truly do not believe in an after-life that reflects the consequences of your actions in this one, then CHANGE your actions! Why do you just want to be a "good person"? What's the point? You're still dead in the end. Your "good" actions are a complete waste of time and it is *you* that are being duped.
And consider for a moment that what you know of Christianity or organized religion is probably heavily tainted by your own experiences with hypocritical "followers" and/or the stories you've heard from others. Our worship leader starts every service greeting us as sinners; "Good morning sinners!" It's a simple reminder that we're all struggling to adhere to a moral code as best we can.
Having a bad experience with religion or Christianity
I remember the good 'ole days of Cromemco and the Cromix operating system. Some of the machines had a Z80 and a Motorola 6800 DPU. The Z80 ran backward comtability programs andthe 6800 ran the OS.
My dad and I hooked up an A-to-D board and controlled an RC car in the garage. Talk about your open standards. It schematics, replacement component #'s (not part #'s, component), journals about the hardware/software similar to the linux community or LJ ("TechTips" it was called).
It had the original Star Trek and Adventure, I blasted banner pages at all of my dads employees, and sat dumb-founded by the high-speed dot matrix printer with the gree-bar. It rattle back and forth until it walked accross the room. I can remember having to build a sound absorbing box because nobody could hear the phone over the top of it.
I guess my favorite thing about the system was being able to fry a serial port controller in the morning and have it repaired in an hour with off the shelf components.
It seems like everybody's first stop is a DNS for host lists. I found that "above.net" is hosting DNS services:
[ns.above.net] hackpcweek.com. SOA ns.above.net dns.above.net. (1999091900 10800 3600 604800 86400) hackpcweek.com. NS ns.above.net hackpcweek.com. NS ns3.above.net hackpcweek.com. A 208.184.64.168 securent A 208.184.64.171 securelinux A 208.184.64.170 forums A 208.184.64.169 www CNAME hackpcweek.com hackpcweek.com. SOA ns.above.net dns.above.net. (1999091900 10800 3600 604800 86400)
And that "above.net" is hosting the machines on their network.
I have a web-page that polls web-server types every three days and I watched M$'s site go from IIS 4.0 to IIS5.0 and back to 4.0 in rouchly a weeks time. Hmm...wonder what happened there?
Speaking from the stand-point of a professional...
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I like the moderation system because, in general, it seems to weed-out the "Ricki Lake" and "Jerry Springer" type posts.
I "use" slashdot to stay abreast of the latest and greatest in the greatest technologies on the planet and I often am frustrated by the irrelevant "I-posted-a-flame-ball-today-look-at-me-grin" posts.
I understand the intention of the moderation to help me waste less time and get more valuable information without making people feel like they don't have a say, even when they probably shouldn't be saying anything. If/. does become a Dante's Inferno because of flaming, I'll be forced to at first, participate less, and perhaps eventually stop visiting.
As far as how it is implemented; I think/. is doing a fine job. Don't let the qualified moderators get too out of hand and make sure that their moderation is not "I agree" or "I disagree" with the post. My humble 2 cents.
P.S. Thanks for all the hard work. This is now my PRIMARY source for news.
I'm from Texas too, and I know that a lot of Linux users and/.'s have had bad experiences with Compaq; me too.
I do think Compaq is making efforts to support Linux better and I know that they will take a lead in developing Linux on their Alpha and Intel platforms, but yesterday's post about their new Alpha compiler has me worried.
I see them falling right back into their previous trap with SCO and other Unices. The funny thing is that the developers and hackers in Compaq are strong advocates of OSS. They work for a company that simply doesn't understand the model.
I've written them many times about drivers for SCSI cards, tech. spec's for video, IDE, etc. and come up with nothing. I garuntee you they'll support Linux well, but I don't see them contributing to the community in a generous fashion. Thank goodness for GPL.
Are any/.'s also Compaq kin? I'd appreciate knowing a little more about the internals of Compaq's Linux gear-up. Please help us help Compaq! Their servers really do scream.
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And so my being asked to leave or avoid attending alcohol anonymous groups where I actively encourage drinking abuse and drugs would be another example of bigotry I suppose? Perhaps I can manifest the virtues of constant inebriation sufficiently such that a convincing argument can be made, but do you really think that an AA meeting is a good and proper place to do so? I'm curious if you were able to answer my original question: where do you get your moral basis?
In the complete absence of moral discrimination, anything is permissible. Are you looking to the laws of the land to define what is morally permissible and what is not? If so, your "morality" over the last 100 years would have changed drastically! Do you look to your own insight and experience to define what is morally permissible? How frequently has that changed as you've aged and had various experiences? How much more will it change in the coming years? Do you have a fundamental disagreement with the following Christian beliefs?:
Are any of the neigh sayers out there going to dispute that these are not only positive virtues in a civilized society but also something that we are lacking more and more of in the United States and the world? Would you not agree that sexuality can and has and will be used in destructive immoral ways? Do you disagree that relationships, young lives, and even entire societies have all been destroyed because of a lack of sexual morality?
The BSA and other organizations that are based on Judeo-Christian principles recognize that these values go a long way in teaching young people to become capable, responsible members of society. Good for them! And they do so with the best interests of the their scouts in heart and mind.
If you completely reject any religious belief system as "mythical", "hateful", or "unprovable", then I'd like you to take a minute to consider your actions in life. Why do you occasionally help out a neighbor with his weekend project? Why do you give money to your local animal shelter? Why do you attempt to not cheat on your spouse? Why do you bother to be honest when working the checkout counter where you work? Why are you trying to make a greener Earth for tomorrow? Where did you get the idea that these are good things to do and worth the investment of your precious and limited time?
If you truly do not believe in an after-life that reflects the consequences of your actions in this one, then CHANGE your actions! Why do you just want to be a "good person"? What's the point? You're still dead in the end. Your "good" actions are a complete waste of time and it is *you* that are being duped.
And consider for a moment that what you know of Christianity or organized religion is probably heavily tainted by your own experiences with hypocritical "followers" and/or the stories you've heard from others. Our worship leader starts every service greeting us as sinners; "Good morning sinners!" It's a simple reminder that we're all struggling to adhere to a moral code as best we can.
Having a bad experience with religion or Christianity
I remember the good 'ole days of Cromemco and the Cromix operating system. Some of the machines had a Z80 and a Motorola 6800 DPU. The Z80 ran backward comtability programs andthe 6800 ran the OS.
My dad and I hooked up an A-to-D board and controlled an RC car in the garage. Talk about your open standards. It schematics, replacement component #'s (not part #'s, component), journals about the hardware/software similar to the linux community or LJ ("TechTips" it was called).
It had the original Star Trek and Adventure, I blasted banner pages at all of my dads employees, and sat dumb-founded by the high-speed dot matrix printer with the gree-bar. It rattle back and forth until it walked accross the room. I can remember having to build a sound absorbing box because nobody could hear the phone over the top of it.
I guess my favorite thing about the system was being able to fry a serial port controller in the morning and have it repaired in an hour with off the shelf components.
It seems like everybody's first stop is a DNS for host lists. I found that "above.net" is hosting DNS services:
[ns.above.net]
hackpcweek.com. SOA ns.above.net dns.above.net. (1999091900 10800 3600 604800 86400)
hackpcweek.com. NS ns.above.net
hackpcweek.com. NS ns3.above.net
hackpcweek.com. A 208.184.64.168
securent A 208.184.64.171
securelinux A 208.184.64.170
forums A 208.184.64.169
www CNAME hackpcweek.com
hackpcweek.com. SOA ns.above.net dns.above.net. (1999091900 10800 3600 604800 86400)
And that "above.net" is hosting the machines on their network.
I have a web-page that polls web-server types every three days and I watched M$'s site go from IIS 4.0 to IIS5.0 and back to 4.0 in rouchly a weeks time. Hmm...wonder what happened there?
I like the moderation system because, in general, it seems to weed-out the "Ricki Lake" and "Jerry Springer" type posts.
I "use" slashdot to stay abreast of the latest and greatest in the greatest technologies on the planet and I often am frustrated by the irrelevant "I-posted-a-flame-ball-today-look-at-me-grin" posts.
I understand the intention of the moderation to help me waste less time and get more valuable information without making people feel like they don't have a say, even when they probably shouldn't be saying anything. If /. does become a Dante's Inferno because of flaming, I'll be forced to at first, participate less, and perhaps eventually stop visiting.
As far as how it is implemented; I think /. is doing a fine job. Don't let the qualified moderators get too out of hand and make sure that their moderation is not "I agree" or "I disagree" with the post. My humble 2 cents.
P.S. Thanks for all the hard work. This is now my PRIMARY source for news.
I'm from Texas too, and I know that a lot of Linux users and /.'s have had bad experiences with Compaq; me too.
I do think Compaq is making efforts to support Linux better and I know that they will take a lead in developing Linux on their Alpha and Intel platforms, but yesterday's post about their new Alpha compiler has me worried.
I see them falling right back into their previous trap with SCO and other Unices. The funny thing is that the developers and hackers in Compaq are strong advocates of OSS. They work for a company that simply doesn't understand the model.
I've written them many times about drivers for SCSI cards, tech. spec's for video, IDE, etc. and come up with nothing. I garuntee you they'll support Linux well, but I don't see them contributing to the community in a generous fashion. Thank goodness for GPL.
Are any /.'s also Compaq kin? I'd appreciate knowing a little more about the internals of Compaq's Linux gear-up. Please help us help Compaq! Their servers really do scream.
Spoze that's all I got swurth sayin fer now.
Come on. A little more development work me things.
ADP DOES NOT know how to design programs. I've used PCPers and HRizon. Blah!
I'd suggest again that you look at Appgen.
http://www.appgen.com
http://www.appgen.com
My CPA sent this to me a few months ago and hi-lighted the Linux plug. Seems that they are providing what you are looking for.
Has anyone used this product?