Sure. I did a potato install (ftp). Added some packages afterwards. Somehow not all needed packages were on my closest server, so i switched to another on. Big mistake... the package was on the server, but could not be downloaded? Well i downloaded it by hand and installed it. After switching back to the first server, dselect/apt were totally screwed. They want to install packages i have already, etc... (i also tried to fix it by hand, it didn't work, at least it didn't get worse:-)
dpkg works, but if i have to check and download the package dependecies myself, i will get mad. (this was nice for what really happens.) i read about an apt patch, and of course potato is "unstable", but at that time i needed an uptodate distribution and debian was my first choice - next time it wont, unless it has a stable recent distribution.
well that was it...
maybe somebody knows how to fix this? i don't. (it should be as simple, as remove packages and the reinstall them, but the problem ist mainly in the apt/deselect/dpkg interface, where some installations are pending, which are already installed.)
debian is free of course, but the latest stable version is quite old... if you use the unstable one you end up in a destroyed packaging system, should i reinstall now?
i liked debian a lot, but has to keep pace with the commercial world, so a striped down redhat may sound interesting...
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giving the program to anyone is distributing it. internal/external/extraterrestrial who cares.
closed development of GPL'ed software is of course a problem when other people but the initial authors (who can change the license) are envolved.
anyway: the softwarepackages in a linux distribution are always GPL and NOT in initial development so you have to split up the distribution into two parts. the GPL and the corel part...
conclusion: this beta test is of course a distribution and therefore GPL'ed software and derivatives are under GPL. the other corel software is under their license, and the beta testers can give the GPL'ed part to others...
if anyone wants to write GPL'ed software and wants a closed beta test:
1) write the software 2) beta test it under you license 3) change the license to GPL
not difficult, eh? (although not working for the entire thing in this case)
This guy is mixing up obscurity with secrets (password), shared secrets (asym. crypt) and algorithms (factoring numbers). Of course these are the weak things in cryptogarphy, but this has nothing to do with obscurity, becaus we *know* them. And using another port for a web server is a lousy example...
1) you need to figure out how to connect rgb to your tv 2) connect rgb,grounds,vertical & horizontal sync 3) calculate "video modes", hint: 15.6 KHz and 50/60 (pal/ntsc) Hz 4) if you kill any hardware, its not *my* fault it's yours! (i'm not liable for anything !!!!)
vga pinouts:
Female HDD15 VGA Connector
Pin 1: Red Video * Pin 2: Green Video * Pin 3: Blue Video * Pin 4: Ground Pin 5: Unused Pin 6: Red Ground * Pin 7: Green Ground * Pin 8: Blue Ground * Pin 9: Unused Pin 10: Ground Pin 11: Ground Pin 12: Unused Pin 13: Vertical Sync * Pin 14: Horizontal Sync * Pin 15: Unused
bsd/gpl liceses are more attractive to developers. the npl grants aol more rights than other developers. this is *not* what i beleive the free software movement is about. i never liked it, even on the first day they released the code.
lgpl would have been the right one...
changing it now won't help for the completion of 5.0, but...
this is not a failure of open source, but the outcome of a we-are-more-than-an-external-developer license.
if they think they are more, the have to work more on the code;-)
if one is honest, (s)he would have already guessed such a result.
linux wasn't "designd" for this kind of hardware. BUT we all know that it will be in future;-)
SMP & huge amount of RAM are not handled well. there is no upwards-scalability in the kernel e.g. you need other algorithms for SMP (>2 proc) and RAM >1GB not just parameter changes...
this is also clearly shown in the test and my personal experience is the same...
however... the strength of linux is that development goes on fast. if there were more 2GB, 4x PII 500 machines out there linux would have won. now it has to adapt to the "bigger" hardware.
i never thought i would write that, but suse linux installs are a lot easier, faster and the system runs like a clockwork.
suse europe edition has all the crypto addons on the cd. so you can do a "full" install without the net.
yast is really good. linuxconf and the xconfigurator (or whatever it is called) both want to do the same thing and you simply don't feel any comfort using them. (and *need* x for overview and handling.)
the overall concept in redhat is awful: e.g. i wanted to download the new xserver, because my card wasn't supported. ppp setup using the book: linuxconf textmode cored - ok graphics mode 16 colors, 640x480: linuxconf won't run without 256 colors. ah! linuxconf html with lynx: won't execute any changes. (redhat 5.2)
well thats it for a normal user, i haven't tried to use netscape with that resolution;-) (i had to use minicom & pppd and some routing, which of course is not beginners stuff) yast had its suseppp stuff integrated and it worked at first try. (suse 5.3/6.0) funnily they changed it in 6.1 to a graphical tool, but there is a "doing it by hand" section in the book.
thats the next thing. the redhat book is a book microsoft would ship... it tells how to install, configure & ciao;-) the suse book tells you a lot more backgrounds and tries to explain complex things too. e.g. the bootloader chapter is better than any howto i found...
now bad things about suse too... (finally;-)
suse however doesn't like gnome...
both use rpm and install packages you didn't select;-) (really - no fun!! no auto-select-dependencies)
and yast always complains about packages other programs *need*, like one command line program has a beta tcl/tk script and now the package needs: X,libXf***,TK,Tcl,libTclAddon99;-) if you force it, you get the message every time you use yast install... (i never found out how to tell rpm to forget about dependenies *i*'m in controll of:-( rpm sucks;-)
suse updates simply work (5.3 -> 6.0 not recommended because of libc). suseconfig is something you can get along with (after some hacking). however you *need* to get used that /etc/rc.config the *the* script. control of everything in one file...
redhat is a nice system, but just because it from the us it's not the best. it needs more than that. i guess suse will spread to the us too and on the other hand i also guess redhat will/is doing better in the future (i just can't buy every redhat edition just too test it, too little time.)
suse is easier to control and faster during the installation. i tried both, i use both, but i prefer suse and i recommend it for beginners too.
well i left out a lot of distributions. so finally i have to mention debian. the package system is better. the package selector is a pain in the... forehead. it's kind of *raw* unix without a fancy envelope... it's fully open source. (afaik yast is binary only, redhat includes binary only stuff too.)
i would say: beginners go with suse, and advanced users should try suse or debian. if you like redhat stay with it;-) after all they are just flavors of LINUX, so they all taste good, but some people prefer strawberry and others like kiwi better...
so why did i write all that? i don't know, but maybe you get a grip why suse *could* be better.
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1) how much do you want to spend? 2) do you need a dvd rom/ram? 3) is your computer near your tv? 4) do you want to qualtiy or just an dvd player?
-- i can't recomment a dvd-rom as player: your computer need to be up (noise), display cards have a bad tv quality, computer decoders are poor quality... unless you *want* a dvd rom/ram and have dvd-movies as a feature...
some rules: 1) don't buy the cheapest 2) watch a movie on it: a) watch out for fast camera movements, or fast moving objects b) look at a foggy scene c) compare it with a really expensive unit (sometimes the disks are also recorded badly) 3) look at the audio options 4) NTSC/PAL, Codefree, Macrovisionfree, etc.
i have a pioneer 717 and i highly recommend it, i bought it because of a broken cd player (everyone needs an excuse;-) and wow!! normal cds can sound really great... there *is* a difference even for non-audio-geeks;-)
what if a computer becomes becomes intelligent? develops an own mind? thinks?
what will happen when a computer/program/robot becomes aware of it/him/her-self (whatever).
i tell you what: it will think aout its existence, and the first thing we would recognize is that it will do mistakes, because of the focus on itself...
so what do you wan't an imperfekt thinking being within a computer, or an "intelligent" slave...
i believe both, but the second will be more useful, the first will just prove that we can create thinking beings...
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Sure. I did a potato install (ftp). Added some packages afterwards. Somehow not all needed packages were on my closest server, so i switched to another on. Big mistake ... the package was on the server, but could not be downloaded? Well i downloaded it by hand and installed it. After switching back to the first server, dselect/apt were totally screwed. They want to install packages i have already, etc ... (i also tried to fix it by hand, it didn't work, at least it didn't get worse :-)
...
dpkg works, but if i have to check and download the package dependecies myself, i will get mad. (this was nice for what really happens.)
i read about an apt patch, and of course potato is "unstable", but at that time i needed an uptodate distribution and debian was my first choice - next time it wont, unless it has a stable recent distribution.
well that was it
maybe somebody knows how to fix this? i don't.
(it should be as simple, as remove packages and the reinstall them, but the problem ist mainly in the apt/deselect/dpkg interface, where some installations are pending, which are already installed.)
debian is free of course, but the latest stable version is quite old ... if you use the unstable one you end up in a destroyed packaging system, should i reinstall now?
...
i liked debian a lot, but has to keep pace with the commercial world, so a striped down redhat may sound interesting
(sorry for the empty post, give it a -1)
...
...
-----------
4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program
except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt
otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is
void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License.
-------------
giving the program to anyone is distributing it. internal/external/extraterrestrial who cares.
closed development of GPL'ed software is of course a problem when other people but the initial authors (who can change the license) are envolved.
anyway: the softwarepackages in a linux distribution are always GPL and NOT in initial development so you have to split up the distribution into two parts. the GPL and the corel part
conclusion:
this beta test is of course a distribution and therefore GPL'ed software and derivatives are under GPL. the other corel software is under their license, and the beta testers can give the GPL'ed part to others
if anyone wants to write GPL'ed software and wants a closed beta test:
1) write the software
2) beta test it under you license
3) change the license to GPL
not difficult, eh?
(although not working for the entire thing in this case)
Cheers!!
This guy is mixing up obscurity with secrets ...
(password), shared secrets (asym. crypt) and
algorithms (factoring numbers). Of course
these are the weak things in cryptogarphy,
but this has nothing to do with obscurity,
becaus we *know* them. And using another port
for a web server is a lousy example
Please make him read Bruce Schneier!!!
1: segmentation fault !!!
...
... but ...
:-) on this one
whatever i tried, whatever platform i used,
whatever milestone i used
i'm willing to get a buggy preview of the new
browser
no
1) you need to figure out how to connect rgb to
your tv
2) connect rgb,grounds,vertical & horizontal sync
3) calculate "video modes", hint: 15.6 KHz and
50/60 (pal/ntsc) Hz
4) if you kill any hardware, its not *my* fault it's yours!
(i'm not liable for anything !!!!)
vga pinouts:
Female HDD15 VGA Connector
Pin 1: Red Video *
Pin 2: Green Video *
Pin 3: Blue Video *
Pin 4: Ground
Pin 5: Unused
Pin 6: Red Ground *
Pin 7: Green Ground *
Pin 8: Blue Ground *
Pin 9: Unused
Pin 10: Ground
Pin 11: Ground
Pin 12: Unused
Pin 13: Vertical Sync *
Pin 14: Horizontal Sync *
Pin 15: Unused
use shield for general ground.
bsd/gpl liceses are more attractive to
...
...
;-)
developers. the npl grants aol more rights
than other developers. this is *not* what i beleive
the free software movement is about. i never liked it,
even on the first day they released the code.
lgpl would have been the right one
changing it now won't help for the completion
of 5.0, but
this is not a failure of open source, but the
outcome of a we-are-more-than-an-external-developer
license.
if they think they are more, the have to work
more on the code
well ...
;-)
...
... the strength of linux is that
if one is honest, (s)he would have already
guessed such a result.
linux wasn't "designd" for this kind of hardware.
BUT we all know that it will be in future
SMP & huge amount of RAM are not handled well.
there is no upwards-scalability in the kernel
e.g. you need other algorithms for SMP (>2 proc)
and RAM >1GB not just parameter changes
this is also clearly shown in the test and my
personal experience is the same...
however
development goes on fast. if there were more
2GB, 4x PII 500 machines out there linux
would have won. now it has to adapt to the
"bigger" hardware.
CU,
Armin
hi!
;-)
... it tells how to install, ;-) the suse book tells you a lot ...
... ;-)
...
;-)
;-) ... (i never found out how :-( rpm sucks ;-)
...
... forehead. it's kind of *raw* unix ... it's fully open
;-) after all they are just ...
i never thought i would write that, but suse
linux installs are a lot easier, faster and
the system runs like a clockwork.
suse europe edition has all the crypto addons
on the cd. so you can do a "full" install without
the net.
yast is really good. linuxconf and the xconfigurator
(or whatever it is called) both want to do the
same thing and you simply don't feel any comfort
using them. (and *need* x for overview and
handling.)
the overall concept in redhat is awful: e.g.
i wanted to download the new xserver, because my
card wasn't supported. ppp setup using the book:
linuxconf textmode cored - ok graphics mode
16 colors, 640x480: linuxconf won't run without
256 colors. ah! linuxconf html with lynx: won't
execute any changes. (redhat 5.2)
well thats it for a normal user, i haven't tried
to use netscape with that resolution
(i had to use minicom & pppd and some routing,
which of course is not beginners stuff)
yast had its suseppp stuff integrated and it
worked at first try. (suse 5.3/6.0) funnily they
changed it in 6.1 to a graphical tool, but there
is a "doing it by hand" section in the book.
thats the next thing. the redhat book is a book
microsoft would ship
configure & ciao
more backgrounds and tries to explain complex
things too. e.g. the bootloader chapter is better
than any howto i found
now bad things about suse too
(finally
suse however doesn't like gnome
both use rpm and install packages you didn't
select
(really - no fun!! no auto-select-dependencies)
and yast always complains about packages other
programs *need*, like one command line program
has a beta tcl/tk script and now the package
needs: X,libXf***,TK,Tcl,libTclAddon99
if you force it, you get the message every time
you use yast install
to tell rpm to forget about dependenies *i*'m
in controll of
suse updates simply work (5.3 -> 6.0 not
recommended because of libc). suseconfig is
something you can get along with (after some
hacking). however you *need* to get used that
/etc/rc.config the *the* script. control of
everything in one file
redhat is a nice system, but just because it
from the us it's not the best. it needs
more than that. i guess suse will spread to
the us too and on the other hand i also guess
redhat will/is doing better in the future (i just
can't buy every redhat edition just too test it,
too little time.)
suse is easier to control and faster during
the installation. i tried both, i use both, but
i prefer suse and i recommend it for beginners
too.
well i left out a lot of distributions. so
finally i have to mention debian. the package
system is better. the package selector is a pain
in the
without a fancy envelope
source. (afaik yast is binary only, redhat
includes binary only stuff too.)
i would say: beginners go with suse, and advanced
users should try suse or debian. if you like
redhat stay with it
flavors of LINUX, so they all taste good, but
some people prefer strawberry and others like
kiwi better
so why did i write all that? i don't know, but
maybe you get a grip why suse *could* be better.
CU,
Armin
this is per cell, not per brain ;-)
...
parallelism is the answer
1) how much do you want to spend?
... ...
;-) and wow!! normal cds can sound really great ... there *is* a difference even for non-audio-geeks ;-)
2) do you need a dvd rom/ram?
3) is your computer near your tv?
4) do you want to qualtiy or just an dvd player?
--
i can't recomment a dvd-rom as player: your computer need to be up (noise), display cards have a bad tv quality, computer decoders are poor quality
unless you *want* a dvd rom/ram and have dvd-movies as a feature
some rules:
1) don't buy the cheapest
2) watch a movie on it:
a) watch out for fast camera movements,
or fast moving objects
b) look at a foggy scene
c) compare it with a really expensive unit
(sometimes the disks are also recorded badly)
3) look at the audio options
4) NTSC/PAL, Codefree, Macrovisionfree, etc.
i have a pioneer 717 and i highly recommend it, i
bought it because of a broken cd player (everyone
needs an excuse
have fun shopping and don't blame me!
Maybe we are cracking things for NSA?
... I don't like sparing cpu cycles
...
;-)
At least
while not knowing what my computer does.
Without source, I don't run algorithmic/crypt
programms
what if a computer becomes becomes intelligent?
develops an own mind? thinks?
what will happen when a computer/program/robot
becomes aware of it/him/her-self (whatever).
i tell you what: it will think aout its existence,
and the first thing we would recognize is that
it will do mistakes, because of the focus on
itself
so what do you wan't an imperfekt thinking being
within a computer, or an "intelligent" slave
i believe both, but the second will be more
useful, the first will just prove that we can
create thinking beings
Cheers!