They can't. You bought the CD with your money, so you can do whatever you want, that's my opinion. However, I don't buy media of any kind anymore. Too expensive, it supports evil corporations, and helps to further the efforts such as this sony spyware.
I have to say it's about time some big corp gets uber bad attention about some f'ed up DRM scheme. Who better than Sony. What Sony did was nothing more than spyware and should be prosecuted. I don't buy cd's or dvd's anymore because of this type of crap.
Amen brother! The short and simple answer, GREED GREED GREED. Fuck the consumer, help the corporation. Our country is held back continuously by these greed machines. We are a corporate-run and corporate-owned country. The government is a puppet in their show...to some degree.
What a load of horse shit! Hmmm, rip to jacked up low quality to begin with using a Sony player and MS technology, then create a jacked up low quality audio cd and then rip to even lower quality. Way to go Sony! But you know what, a lot of Joe users won't know the difference...which is sad. And the Joe user issue is one reason why this crap gets furthered along its ridiculous path.
Basically, Sony has taken away the right of the user to play their purchased CD however they want to on whatever platform they want to with whatever software they want to. "Protected music"...give me a break.
This might seem ridiculous, but this is like me buying a pair of shoes from Brand X and only being allowed to run on tracks built by Brand X or a love-buddy 3rd party Brand X track. Am I so wrong here? If I want to run on another track, then my shoes won't be as comfortable and support my feet as well!!
In other words, Sony is trying to pressure Apple into helping to further their own DRM bullshit. For this, I say f you Sony and applaud Apple. For one, in my opinion, Apple only has FairPlay simply to have allowed itself to get in the game. Now that's in and dominates the scence from both ends, why should they license their technology and help other's DRM crap get a bigger foothold. I see Apple's DRM/FairPlay only has a means to get into a market, dominate it and that's it. None of the greedy pig music labels would have let iTunes happen if Apple didn't have something in place. So try looking at these thing from a different angle. Apple is doing what it *has* to to dominate the digital music scene with its products and be #1, not trying to cut people off from using a product. Sony and others are simply trying to put in place as many restrictions on the purchaser as possible. I have other opinions on this subject, such as CEO Bronfman (Warner), but I won't repeat them here due to their pure ugliness.
I'm so sick of all this blame-game bullshit being played by the music industry and I'm sick of all the crying and whining by the RIAA. This bullshit article tries to push the term "protected music" like it's doing something for you and making your life better but damn Apple for messing up my "protected music" experience. What the hell kind of shit is that? I don't want, need, or will never buy anyone's stupid ass "protected music". Please, it's all a bunch of shit. I don't miss wasting my hard earned money on cd's at all.
I was mainly thinking of DNS requests as I wrote that. In the end, I don't see a problem with Google's new tool. I think its great and do nothing to worry about. If you want to visit a site and not cache stuff like a bank, then update the preferences and stop worrying. Using their proxy is no different than someone else's in my opinion.
Not you elemental23, but someone also mentioned Google has complete access to people's email with gmail. And you don't think Yahoo, HotMail, LinuxMail, etc., etc. don't have this same access, come on.
"My DSL line doesn't actually touch my ISP's network, it goes straight to SBC."...and you don't think SBC is doing some sort of logging for their DSL lines? Come on. Whoever provides the line service whether its dsl, cable, T-1, etc., logging is occuring at some level about something you have done. How do you think the RIAA and MPAA are able to identify and sue people over P2P usage? Logging my friend.
I hear you man, but...how is using Google as a proxy any different than your normal ISP? Your ISP caches and logs all of your web browsing habits for sure, so what makes Google different. What if Google turned into an ISP as well and offered those types of services? Its no different. If you are doing things you don't want people to know about or find out about, its sort of hard these days unless you use someone else's computer while browsing.
i'm sorry, but this whole thread is a bunch of shit. who in their right mind could honestly say they support anything riaa does? they are a bunch of greedy ass, corporate pigs. fuck the mofo's. i don't buy cd's, i don't go to concerts, and i'll be damned if i give any of my hard earned money to an industry with people like the riaa has. i'm a huge music fan, but i don't have to buy cd's for $18 fucking dollars each to enjoy it either.
good for you.
They can't. You bought the CD with your money, so you can do whatever you want, that's my opinion. However, I don't buy media of any kind anymore. Too expensive, it supports evil corporations, and helps to further the efforts such as this sony spyware.
Speak with your wallet.
I have to say it's about time some big corp gets uber bad attention about some f'ed up DRM scheme. Who better than Sony. What Sony did was nothing more than spyware and should be prosecuted. I don't buy cd's or dvd's anymore because of this type of crap.
Amen brother! The short and simple answer, GREED GREED GREED. Fuck the consumer, help the corporation. Our country is held back continuously by these greed machines. We are a corporate-run and corporate-owned country. The government is a puppet in their show...to some degree.
I'd never buy it in a million years.
OMG!!!!
What a load of horse shit! Hmmm, rip to jacked up low quality to begin with using a Sony player and MS technology, then create a jacked up low quality audio cd and then rip to even lower quality. Way to go Sony! But you know what, a lot of Joe users won't know the difference...which is sad. And the Joe user issue is one reason why this crap gets furthered along its ridiculous path.
Basically, Sony has taken away the right of the user to play their purchased CD however they want to on whatever platform they want to with whatever software they want to. "Protected music"...give me a break.
This might seem ridiculous, but this is like me buying a pair of shoes from Brand X and only being allowed to run on tracks built by Brand X or a love-buddy 3rd party Brand X track. Am I so wrong here? If I want to run on another track, then my shoes won't be as comfortable and support my feet as well!!
In other words, Sony is trying to pressure Apple into helping to further their own DRM bullshit. For this, I say f you Sony and applaud Apple. For one, in my opinion, Apple only has FairPlay simply to have allowed itself to get in the game. Now that's in and dominates the scence from both ends, why should they license their technology and help other's DRM crap get a bigger foothold. I see Apple's DRM/FairPlay only has a means to get into a market, dominate it and that's it. None of the greedy pig music labels would have let iTunes happen if Apple didn't have something in place. So try looking at these thing from a different angle. Apple is doing what it *has* to to dominate the digital music scene with its products and be #1, not trying to cut people off from using a product. Sony and others are simply trying to put in place as many restrictions on the purchaser as possible. I have other opinions on this subject, such as CEO Bronfman (Warner), but I won't repeat them here due to their pure ugliness.
I'm so sick of all this blame-game bullshit being played by the music industry and I'm sick of all the crying and whining by the RIAA. This bullshit article tries to push the term "protected music" like it's doing something for you and making your life better but damn Apple for messing up my "protected music" experience. What the hell kind of shit is that? I don't want, need, or will never buy anyone's stupid ass "protected music". Please, it's all a bunch of shit. I don't miss wasting my hard earned money on cd's at all.
Screw dell. I'd never buy a desktop or laptop from them, ever, but there rack servers may be ok...verdict is still out on that.
I was mainly thinking of DNS requests as I wrote that. In the end, I don't see a problem with Google's new tool. I think its great and do nothing to worry about. If you want to visit a site and not cache stuff like a bank, then update the preferences and stop worrying. Using their proxy is no different than someone else's in my opinion.
...and you don't think SBC is doing some sort of logging for their DSL lines? Come on. Whoever provides the line service whether its dsl, cable, T-1, etc., logging is occuring at some level about something you have done. How do you think the RIAA and MPAA are able to identify and sue people over P2P usage? Logging my friend.
Not you elemental23, but someone also mentioned Google has complete access to people's email with gmail. And you don't think Yahoo, HotMail, LinuxMail, etc., etc. don't have this same access, come on.
"My DSL line doesn't actually touch my ISP's network, it goes straight to SBC."
I hear you man, but...how is using Google as a proxy any different than your normal ISP? Your ISP caches and logs all of your web browsing habits for sure, so what makes Google different. What if Google turned into an ISP as well and offered those types of services? Its no different. If you are doing things you don't want people to know about or find out about, its sort of hard these days unless you use someone else's computer while browsing.
i'm sorry, but this whole thread is a bunch of shit. who in their right mind could honestly say they support anything riaa does? they are a bunch of greedy ass, corporate pigs. fuck the mofo's. i don't buy cd's, i don't go to concerts, and i'll be damned if i give any of my hard earned money to an industry with people like the riaa has. i'm a huge music fan, but i don't have to buy cd's for $18 fucking dollars each to enjoy it either.