It's a shame the poster didn't link to the info we posted on the Yahoo! Search blog last night. I think it answers some of the questions coming up here.
Then again, this is Slashdot!:-)
Makes me wonder, though; Yahoo just sorta released it shortly after AOL released AIM for Linux... I guess Yahoo had
this client all along? It's version 0.93.0 so unless they're playing a version number game, they've been developing it for a
while...
You're correct. It's been around at Yahoo for quite a long time. Remember that many of the developers at Yahoo! use FreeBSD on the desktop.
It's only when you use the power inherent in being a monopoly to maintain that monopoly, or establish a monopoly in another market, that a company is commiting an illegal act.
Allow me to quote the Findings of Fact document:
410. By refusing to offer those OEMs who requested it a version of Windows without Web browsing software, and by preventing OEMs from removing Internet Explorer -- or even the most obvious means of invoking it -- prior to shipment, Microsoft forced OEMs to ignore consumer demand for a browserless version of Windows. The same actions forced OEMs either to ignore consumer preferences for Navigator or to give them a Hobson's choice of both browser products at the cost of increased confusion, degraded system performance, and restricted memory. By ensuring that Internet Explorer would launch in certain circumstances in Windows 98 even if Navigator were set as the default, and even if the consumer had removed all conspicuous means of invoking Internet Explorer, Microsoft created confusion and frustration for consumers, and increased technical support costs for business customers. Those Windows purchasers who did not want browsing software -- businesses, or parents and teachers, for example, concerned with the potential for irresponsible Web browsing on PC systems -- not only had to undertake the effort necessary to remove the visible means of invoking Internet Explorer and then contend with the fact that Internet Explorer would nevertheless launch in certain cases; they also had to (assuming they needed new, non-browsing features not available in earlier versions of Windows) content themselves with a PC system that ran slower and provided less available memory than if the newest version of Windows came without browsing software. By constraining the freedom of OEMs to implement certain software programs in the Windows boot sequence, Microsoft foreclosed an opportunity for OEMs to make Windows PC systems less confusing and more user-friendly, as consumers desired. By taking the actions listed above, and by enticing firms into exclusivity arrangements with valuable inducements that only Microsoft could offer and that the firms reasonably believed they could not do without, Microsoft forced those consumers who otherwise would have elected Navigator as their browser to either pay a substantial price (in the forms of downloading, installation, confusion, degraded system performance, and diminished memory capacity) or content themselves with Internet Explorer. Finally, by pressuring Intel to drop the development of platform-level NSP software, and otherwise to cut back on its software development efforts, Microsoft deprived consumers of software innovation that they very well may have found valuable, had the innovation been allowed to reach the marketplace.
None of these actions had pro-competitive justifications.
(Emphasis mine...)
It would appear that the judge was already pointing out some of their likely "less than legal" practices here.
It'll be *really* interesting to see what happens to MSFT stock now that the news is out. Time to sell short, maybe?:-)
Let's see, they had about 35 million shares trade hands today. It looks to be down over 3 points now in after-hours trading, and it's dropping like a rock.
Given some of the recent discussion surrounding the Linux Documentation Project (LDP), I began to wonder about its long-term direction and viability.
I "grew up" with Linux by reading *many* of the HOWTOs and other documents that were part of the LDP. In many ways, I'd have been lost without the LDP. But with the growth of Linux mind-share and increased demand for texts that help newcomers get acquainted with the various aspects of running their own Linux systems, there seems to have been a stagnation in much of the free documentation. I can't help but to wonder if many of the folks who would be working on LDP-type material have opted to write books for publishers instead.
Where do you see free documentation projects like the LDP going? What advice can you offer to the LDP and those who write documents for inclusion in the project? Might we see electronic versions of O'Reilly books (or parts of them) included in free documentation projects.
YOU won't be violating anybody's privacy (your script will, but no human eye sees the non-guilty mail) except for those who are violating company policy
Are you serious?
Creating such a script and setting up a cron entry to run it is no "better" than just doing it manually. I don't think that qualifies as really helping the person who posed the question. He'd rather not have to get involved at all.
But I do have to agree with you in one way: Perl is cool.
Slashdot Mirror
Uh, it's been a while since that was true...
It's a shame the poster didn't link to the info we posted on the Yahoo! Search blog last night. I think it answers some of the questions coming up here. Then again, this is Slashdot! :-)
What more can I say?
Not as fast connection
You're correct. It's been around at Yahoo for quite a long time. Remember that many of the developers at Yahoo! use FreeBSD on the desktop.
http://biz.yahoo.com/msft2/
It's only when you use the power inherent in being a monopoly to maintain that monopoly, or establish a monopoly in another market, that a company is commiting an illegal act.
Allow me to quote the Findings of Fact document:
(Emphasis mine...)
It would appear that the judge was already pointing out some of their likely "less than legal" practices here.
It appears to have been slashed already. Damn, this is big. Really, really, really big...
It'll be *really* interesting to see what happens to MSFT stock now that the news is out. Time to sell short, maybe? :-)
Let's see, they had about 35 million shares trade hands today. It looks to be down over 3 points now in after-hours trading, and it's dropping like a rock.
Woohoo!
Tim,
Given some of the recent discussion surrounding the Linux Documentation Project (LDP), I began to wonder about its long-term direction and viability.
I "grew up" with Linux by reading *many* of the HOWTOs and other documents that were part of the LDP. In many ways, I'd have been lost without the LDP. But with the growth of Linux mind-share and increased demand for texts that help newcomers get acquainted with the various aspects of running their own Linux systems, there seems to have been a stagnation in much of the free documentation. I can't help but to wonder if many of the folks who would be working on LDP-type material have opted to write books for publishers instead.
Where do you see free documentation projects like the LDP going? What advice can you offer to the LDP and those who write documents for inclusion in the project? Might we see electronic versions of O'Reilly books (or parts of them) included in free documentation projects.
Thanks.
YOU won't be violating anybody's privacy (your script will, but no human eye sees the non-guilty mail) except for those who are violating company policy
Are you serious?
Creating such a script and setting up a cron entry to run it is no "better" than just doing it manually. I don't think that qualifies as really helping the person who posed the question. He'd rather not have to get involved at all.
But I do have to agree with you in one way: Perl is cool.
Jeremy
Well, I guess the /. effect worked. This note just went on-line and I already can't get there.
Yes. It's documented in the Freshmeat FAQ.
Get the glibc version of Netscape. Worked for me.
JWZ would be a big loss if he just faded out. Hopefully he'll get excited about something else interesting in a better environment.