The instructions say to use./configure to config the makefile. Since./configure doesn't exist, you've got to use autoconf. Somewhere in here, something gets screwed up.
The CORRECT way (at least it worked for me) is to run the./setup script in the root. This will build a makefile that actually works. Everything else is as described.
Good Luck! If I can help any more, contact me by e-mail at handorf@penguinpowered.com
Not that I can claim to be the most extensive user of it, but the SECOND I saw PHP3 I fell in love with it. Integration of the gd library, integration of database calls, C like syntax, classes, a module for apache, what's not to like?
I don't want to start a holy war, and I'll freely admit that it is my own ignorance, but perl has ALWAYS been cryptic to me. No matter how many references I have and how much I practice, it's still the proverbial Write-Only language for me. Hell, even using the MS VBScript under (*wretch*) ASP was simpler for me.
By choice, I'm a C/C++ guy and I LOVED the syntax. Too bad it's not more case-sensitive, but I'll overlook that.
I think my only problem with PHP3 is the fact that I had to compile the CVS version the other day (to go from GIFs to PNGs in libgd) and the instructions were incorrect. Of course, if I hadn't been tired at the time, it probably wouldn't have been an issue, but there you go.
I can't speak to it's scalability (I may be able to, soon, though), but I don't see why it would be less so than mod_perl.
If you haven't yet, give it a try, I think you'll like it!
(except that there seems to be a rule against even imagining such a concept as agreement).
Gee, you put a bunch of smart people on a project they care about and you get disagreement? Whodathunkit? Of course, it's not possible that there MIGHT be more than one right way to do it. We wouldn't want differing solutions to fight it out in the "market". Nope, the Central Committie should decide what is best for us.
Why is it that some of the biggest proponents of capitalisim don't want it in their OSes? If all the Linux people agreed and did it one way all the time, we'd have a MUCH less enjoyable OS experience! How many linux filesystems have gone by the wayside? 3? There was a time during each of those when they were the underdog. But instead of trying to kill it, the opponents have improved the product by adding to the developent instead of just attacking it. Innovation comes from conflict.
Just because Linux isn't what you want, don't throw it out. Correct it. Steer it. Linux can be anything you are willing to help it become. If you don't participate you have no right to complain that it isn't what you wanted!
Personally, I'd rather choose among >15 window managers than have Microsoft pick the "right" one for me anyday!
Does anyone have more information on the patents? I hope this is at least some really cool indexing scheme or something, cause otherwise this sounds just plain ignorant. I have several web-based data apps, am I in trouble?
I've always felt that my managers try to be way too "World-Aware". They keep up with everything in every industry. They know all the latest buzzwords. Too bad they don't know that the morale in the department is at an all-time low due to takeover rumors that they're too busy to address.
Information Glut is a real problem, people don't know what's important and what's not. They listen to EVERYTHING and don't take the time to process anything. It's really quite pathetic. Like a farmer who spends all his time harvesting but dies of starvation because they're too busy to eat. (OK, bad analogy, but you get the point).
Dilbert is more than a Comic, it's a way of running a business!
I'm curious as to if people think this is a good thing or a bad thing. Personally I'm torn. Software Modems for Linux == Good. Software Modems == Bad.
If they were to release the specs in general, as they said they are considering, then I don't think I'd have any real reservations, but if not I think we're back in the same old show. What about the BeOS users? What about the FooOS?
Specs please, or I'll stick with my hardware modem!
>Ummm, do you mean OpenGL OR Direct3D ? Or are you implying there is no difference?
Oh no! I do realize that there is a difference, a very important one.
OpenGL gets it right, Direct3d Gets it FAST. Both are important for completely different things.
Having read your other posts, I would agree that I would be horrified if you asked me to code your app in D3D.
I personally think OpenGL is nice and clean, but it was my first 3d api (first love and all that). It's also nice and portable, along with various and sundry other advantages, but from the point of view of Edios writing Tomb Raider 4, I wouldn't touch OpenGL with a 10 ft pole.
I've got one of these TNTs, and I'll tell you, under W95 (until NVIDIA gets it's act together) it's got GREAT OpenGL performance, but until all cards can say the same thing, I think we'll live in a world where both Direct3D and OpenGL have their place.
Q. Is Unified limited to 16-bit color? A. Actually, most Glide games are limited to 16-bit color when running in Glide mode. Unified will provide an extension to allow a game to display 24/32-bit color, but the games will need to be modified to take advantage of this feature.
So now we've got 3dFX's Proprietary API with Proprietary Creative extenstions, which won't run on 3dFX's hardware!
So, now either 1) Everybody gives up and uses OpenGL / D3D
OR
2) We wind up with 15 similar but slightly incompatible APIs.
Please O Please let it be #1.
But I must admit, I'm not upset that I already own one of these things. Now if they'd just release the *&*((& specs!
Wow. I don't have it half that bad and I'm thinking of leaving.
Always remember: The company watches out for itself, not you. That's your FIRST job.
One of these days our industry will grow up a little and management will start to realize that we are NOT like the computers we work with. We're just like everyone else and we get annoyed with not seeing the outside world at all.
Would be if Apple attracted LOTS of developers, far and wide. We all put our heart, soul and code to help them improve their product (which I don't mind at all) and then they take our changes and their source and go home.
I don't worry about annoying companies, those that see the value of Open Source (or whatever) will make use of the community in whatever ways they see fit. A company will always look out for it's best interests. I'm more worried about the developer who burns their nights helping to create a better product for all to use and then Apple revokes their right to play with the code.
Do this to a developer once you've burned them against (Open|Free) Source forever.
If (Open|Free) Source loses all it's developers, it dies.
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The instructions say to use ./configure to config the makefile. Since ./configure doesn't exist, you've got to use autoconf. Somewhere in here, something gets screwed up.
./setup script in the root. This will build a makefile that actually works. Everything else is as described.
The CORRECT way (at least it worked for me) is to run the
Good Luck! If I can help any more, contact me by e-mail at handorf@penguinpowered.com
Not that I can claim to be the most extensive user of it, but the SECOND I saw PHP3 I fell in love with it. Integration of the gd library, integration of database calls, C like syntax, classes, a module for apache, what's not to like?
I don't want to start a holy war, and I'll freely admit that it is my own ignorance, but perl has ALWAYS been cryptic to me. No matter how many references I have and how much I practice, it's still the proverbial Write-Only language for me. Hell, even using the MS VBScript under (*wretch*) ASP was simpler for me.
By choice, I'm a C/C++ guy and I LOVED the syntax. Too bad it's not more case-sensitive, but I'll overlook that.
I think my only problem with PHP3 is the fact that I had to compile the CVS version the other day (to go from GIFs to PNGs in libgd) and the instructions were incorrect. Of course, if I hadn't been tired at the time, it probably wouldn't have been an issue, but there you go.
I can't speak to it's scalability (I may be able to, soon, though), but I don't see why it would be less so than mod_perl.
If you haven't yet, give it a try, I think you'll like it!
Gee, you put a bunch of smart people on a project they care about and you get disagreement? Whodathunkit? Of course, it's not possible that there MIGHT be more than one right way to do it. We wouldn't want differing solutions to fight it out in the "market". Nope, the Central Committie should decide what is best for us.
Why is it that some of the biggest proponents of capitalisim don't want it in their OSes? If all the Linux people agreed and did it one way all the time, we'd have a MUCH less enjoyable OS experience! How many linux filesystems have gone by the wayside? 3? There was a time during each of those when they were the underdog. But instead of trying to kill it, the opponents have improved the product by adding to the developent instead of just attacking it. Innovation comes from conflict.
Just because Linux isn't what you want, don't throw it out. Correct it. Steer it. Linux can be anything you are willing to help it become. If you don't participate you have no right to complain that it isn't what you wanted!
Personally, I'd rather choose among >15 window managers than have Microsoft pick the "right" one for me anyday!
Does anyone have more information on the patents? I hope this is at least some really cool indexing scheme or something, cause otherwise this sounds just plain ignorant. I have several web-based data apps, am I in trouble?
Software patents strike again!
*SIGH*
Or the more you can defocus the company business.
I've always felt that my managers try to be way too "World-Aware". They keep up with everything in every industry. They know all the latest buzzwords. Too bad they don't know that the morale in the department is at an all-time low due to takeover rumors that they're too busy to address.
Information Glut is a real problem, people don't know what's important and what's not. They listen to EVERYTHING and don't take the time to process anything. It's really quite pathetic. Like a farmer who spends all his time harvesting but dies of starvation because they're too busy to eat. (OK, bad analogy, but you get the point).
Dilbert is more than a Comic, it's a way of running a business!
I want my Kibis and Bits!
I'm curious as to if people think this is a good thing or a bad thing. Personally I'm torn. Software Modems for Linux == Good. Software Modems == Bad.
If they were to release the specs in general, as they said they are considering, then I don't think I'd have any real reservations, but if not I think we're back in the same old show. What about the BeOS users? What about the FooOS?
Specs please, or I'll stick with my hardware modem!
No 2002=e again, then i, then o.
:-)
The hidden lyrics are:
CmdrTaco had a website,
e i e i o.
And on that site there was some news,
e i e i o...
Or perhaps I need my dosage adjusted...
You know, I've been looking for Hard Hat mack for 2 months, but I couldn't remember the name! You've made my day! THANKS!
>Ummm, do you mean OpenGL OR Direct3D ? Or are you implying there is no difference?
:-)
Oh no! I do realize that there is a difference, a very important one.
OpenGL gets it right, Direct3d Gets it FAST. Both are important for completely different things.
Having read your other posts, I would agree that I would be horrified if you asked me to code your app in D3D.
I personally think OpenGL is nice and clean, but it was my first 3d api (first love and all that). It's also nice and portable, along with various and sundry other advantages, but from the point of view of Edios writing Tomb Raider 4, I wouldn't touch OpenGL with a 10 ft pole.
I've got one of these TNTs, and I'll tell you, under W95 (until NVIDIA gets it's act together) it's got GREAT OpenGL performance, but until all cards can say the same thing, I think we'll live in a world where both Direct3D and OpenGL have their place.
Just my not-so-humble opinion.
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Q. Is Unified limited to 16-bit color?
A. Actually, most Glide games are limited to 16-bit color when running in Glide mode. Unified will provide an extension to allow a game to display 24/32-bit color, but the games will need to be modified to take advantage of this feature.
So now we've got 3dFX's Proprietary API with Proprietary Creative extenstions, which won't run on 3dFX's hardware!
So, now either
1) Everybody gives up and uses OpenGL / D3D
OR
2) We wind up with 15 similar but slightly incompatible APIs.
Please O Please let it be #1.
But I must admit, I'm not upset that I already own one of these things. Now if they'd just release the *&*((& specs!
Wow. I don't have it half that bad and I'm thinking of leaving.
Always remember: The company watches out for itself, not you. That's your FIRST job.
One of these days our industry will grow up a little and management will start to realize that we are NOT like the computers we work with. We're just like everyone else and we get annoyed with not seeing the outside world at all.
Good Luck!
Would be if Apple attracted LOTS of developers, far and wide. We all put our heart, soul and code to help them improve their product (which I don't mind at all) and then they take our changes and their source and go home.
I don't worry about annoying companies, those that see the value of Open Source (or whatever) will make use of the community in whatever ways they see fit. A company will always look out for it's best interests. I'm more worried about the developer who burns their nights helping to create a better product for all to use and then Apple revokes their right to play with the code.
Do this to a developer once you've burned them against (Open|Free) Source forever.
If (Open|Free) Source loses all it's developers, it dies.