This notion that Java is 100% pure and gives you 100% portability just isn't true. There's a great interview with James Gosling
on IBM's developer works site in which he directly addresses this issue. He said, yeah, the whole right-once-run-anywhere,
100%-pure-thing was a really goofy idea, and was more of a marketing thing. He says, in effect, "We didn't think we'd ever be
able to deliver all that, and basically we haven't." Here's the inventor of the language saying that neither purity nor portability
exists.'
this sucks. i'm a big delphi fan and the chief architect totally sells himself out to microsoft. anyway, i'm so tired of hearing that portability in java doesn't exist! i write my code on an nt machine and install my classes on hp-ux, linux, and nt servers all the time. also, i can move code from one application server to another with no recompilation. i wish these people knew what they were talking about! it pisses me off!
there alot more unsigned musicians than signed ones. why not a class action suit against the riaa for restriction of trade. the musicians should detail their experiences of how they didn't get a fair shake with record companies and that alternative distribution didn't exist before napster. now that the riaa has succeeded in shutting napster down, isn't this restriction of trade?
x-box will never exist. i've predicted that it will be killed or fail miserably. they have to get through nintendo and sega to even touch sony. japanese are no pushovers like the wuses in silicon valley. they have nothing to fear from microsoft. plus sega owes microsoft revenge for fucking them like they did!
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first of all, if it's the size of it that's the issue, what's the big deal? anyone familiar with open source knows that teams will evolve around different pieces of it anyway. i don't see what difference staggering it like that makes. i think they are more afraid of their technology being embedded in other operating systems. which is the way it should be anyway!
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you have dealt with a real monopoly until you've dealt with snet. they charge for anything they can pull out of their ass! one time i relieved myself while i was talking on the phone and next month there was a $7.50 PISSING CHARGE ON THE BILL!!! i shit you not (pardon the pun)!
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These large companies will in the very near future be as powerful, if not eventually totally replacing, individual governments, because they have one ability governments don't have: the legal right (ie. no war necessary) to expand worldwide.
in the comic book, grendel, this is exactly what happenned. i remember reading it a few years back and thinking to myself, "this could really happen!". and if you listened to ralph nader's acceptance speech this weekend, you might believe it's already happenning!
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seems to me that there's relatively lots of competition in telecom. sure they have uunet but so what? internet 2 is coming and there are alot of players there. plus sprint is wireless! what's the big deal?
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well this will not come anywhere near killing java. first of all the "virtual machine" will only run on windows. so right there it can't compete. basically what you're getting is a cheap knockoff of java that allows you to compile to windows code. i can do that with symantec and gcc already plus have code i can run on multiple operating system!
under this scheme, i'm basically in theory writing my code in c# on a linux machine to run on windows. but i won't be able to test my code on the box that i coded it on. it's like unnecessary cross-compiling. it's stupid. until i see virtual machine specifications for as many platforms that java has them on (there won't be), i'm not going to lose sleep.
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It's important to note that the Microsoft action got only possible *BECAUSE* Microsoft has a OS monopoly. The DOJ *CANNOT* prosecute any non-monopoly US company for anticompetitive practices, barring a few very basic practices like price fixing. Rambus is far from being a monopoly in the RAM market. US antitrust laws are so weak that it's scary. Ask the GOP and their 'big business -friendly' antitrust policy why there are no tough pro-compentition laws, and why there are more and more big-business-protecting laws passed like UCITA. Ask the GOP why the budget of the DOJ antitrust division got frozen. (despite much heavier merger activity, the division's budget did not rise accordingly.)
are you forgetting that rambus is back by a monopoly bigger than microsoft itself? if rambus were to try to gain dominance by blocking sdram production, they'd probably go after intel who stands to gain tremendously from any of rambus' success.
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if this is a java killer, it's a very bad one! i went to their site and there is nothing on this so called c# that they just launched. no compiler, no language specification, no virtual machince specification, nothing. how do they expect to catch up to java's growth without these? c# will fall c-flat!
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Where I work our developers use windows boxes because that interface is simple for them.
i'm in a similar situation. for my purposes, i have not found an editor as good as or better than scopeedit for non-windows environments. i've tried various folding editors (ae, fe and a few others) but nothing does the job as well as scopeedit. this (and quicken) has slowed down my move to an all linux box!
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By far, my favorite feature is the popup Intellisense, when you're working with an object or struct and type "." or "->" you get a window with the details of the object at that level. You will quickly get hooked on this feature.
feh! delphi had this YEARS ago.
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if you're a win32 programmer it doesn't really make sense to use linux unless you are programming in java, perl, php or using gcc to write code. but other advantages are the bash shell and all the text processing tools. if you're a command line compile kind of guy like i am, i'd suggest cygnus to get the hang of linux based development. i am currently using it but am planning a full transition to all linux since i currently code in java and perl most of the time.
-- J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
so i've got linux installed on my handheld. so what? can i use X on it? probably not. i mean if i could at least run java applets on it, this would be worthwhile but command line linux on a pda with no keyboard doesn't sound like fun!
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If you are using SCO, it defaults to ksh, and you probably also have sh and csh. Korn shell offers plenty of flexibility, but I can see how some people would not like it, espesially if they are not comfortable with vi commands
oh man, i so hate ksh! they won't let me use bash either!
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The way I understand it is that record companies basically serve as a bank where musicians can get a loan to produce and market an album. This basically how Lars Ulrich explained it. Now, when the album goes on sale, all the money made from sales goes to pay the record company first, and the artist doesn't see a penny until the loan is paid back. What I want to know is this: What happens if the album doesn't sell enough to cover the loan? Does the artist still own it? Are they beholden to the record company to produce more albums? What happens?
in most cases, the record company owns the material regardless of whether or not it's paid back.
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Mp3.com thought it was rediculous to pay-per-play fees that the radio stations must do. They contended that this was JUST a way for users to listen to their music any way that they want. (anywhere any time). If they can play their music in their car via tape/CD, or listen at work on CD-ROM drives, why not simply allow them to play their music at any computer.
the record industry constantly contradicts itself with its physical property vs intellectually property stance. on one hand, they say you are paying for the license, but yet if you want to return your scratched cd for the cost of the media, you can't do that. now they want mp3 for essentially a license that the user already has. they can't have it both ways! well what is it? am i paying for the license or the disc?!?!
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It is also multiplatform... we all know about that.
this is important with regards to server-side java. i build on my nt station and just drop in the jars on the production hp-ux server. I LOVE THAT. plus the fact that i can use my classes across various different application servers is a big plus. we're using the same business logic that we use as our gui client application. they say java doesn't live up to the hype but it definitely lives up to the portability and scalability hype! java is very powerful in this arena. i plan to use it for years to come.
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Yeah, this is really hard to believe. Last time I did anything with Cygwin on Windows (compile Jikes!) the Cygwin binary was much slower than the MSVC one.
i think that's because you have to do all the optimizations yourself in cygwin! have you seen the size of the binaries it makes?!?! that's why i switched to free borland c++!
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this sucks. i'm a big delphi fan and the chief architect totally sells himself out to microsoft. anyway, i'm so tired of hearing that portability in java doesn't exist! i write my code on an nt machine and install my classes on hp-ux, linux, and nt servers all the time. also, i can move code from one application server to another with no recompilation. i wish these people knew what they were talking about! it pisses me off!
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And Justice for None
there alot more unsigned musicians than signed ones. why not a class action suit against the riaa for restriction of trade. the musicians should detail their experiences of how they didn't get a fair shake with record companies and that alternative distribution didn't exist before napster. now that the riaa has succeeded in shutting napster down, isn't this restriction of trade?
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but in the streets, people know coke over windows. and us rich spoiled brats are a minority. no way is microsoft more recognized than coke!
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x-box will never exist. i've predicted that it will be killed or fail miserably. they have to get through nintendo and sega to even touch sony. japanese are no pushovers like the wuses in silicon valley. they have nothing to fear from microsoft. plus sega owes microsoft revenge for fucking them like they did!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
first of all, if it's the size of it that's the issue, what's the big deal? anyone familiar with open source knows that teams will evolve around different pieces of it anyway. i don't see what difference staggering it like that makes. i think they are more afraid of their technology being embedded in other operating systems. which is the way it should be anyway!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
you have dealt with a real monopoly until you've dealt with snet. they charge for anything they can pull out of their ass! one time i relieved myself while i was talking on the phone and next month there was a $7.50 PISSING CHARGE ON THE BILL!!! i shit you not (pardon the pun)!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
in the comic book, grendel, this is exactly what happenned. i remember reading it a few years back and thinking to myself, "this could really happen!". and if you listened to ralph nader's acceptance speech this weekend, you might believe it's already happenning!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
seems to me that there's relatively lots of competition in telecom. sure they have uunet but so what? internet 2 is coming and there are alot of players there. plus sprint is wireless! what's the big deal?
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
a.setName("MyName") would become: a.Name = "MyName" - but it would still go through a function.
ummm.... ever heard of a bean?
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
under this scheme, i'm basically in theory writing my code in c# on a linux machine to run on windows. but i won't be able to test my code on the box that i coded it on. it's like unnecessary cross-compiling. it's stupid. until i see virtual machine specifications for as many platforms that java has them on (there won't be), i'm not going to lose sleep.
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
are you forgetting that rambus is back by a monopoly bigger than microsoft itself? if rambus were to try to gain dominance by blocking sdram production, they'd probably go after intel who stands to gain tremendously from any of rambus' success.
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
i'm in a similar situation. for my purposes, i have not found an editor as good as or better than scopeedit for non-windows environments. i've tried various folding editors (ae, fe and a few others) but nothing does the job as well as scopeedit. this (and quicken) has slowed down my move to an all linux box!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
feh! delphi had this YEARS ago.
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
if you're a win32 programmer it doesn't really make sense to use linux unless you are programming in java, perl, php or using gcc to write code. but other advantages are the bash shell and all the text processing tools. if you're a command line compile kind of guy like i am, i'd suggest cygnus to get the hang of linux based development. i am currently using it but am planning a full transition to all linux since i currently code in java and perl most of the time.
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
so i've got linux installed on my handheld. so what? can i use X on it? probably not. i mean if i could at least run java applets on it, this would be worthwhile but command line linux on a pda with no keyboard doesn't sound like fun!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
oh man, i so hate ksh! they won't let me use bash either!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
in most cases, the record company owns the material regardless of whether or not it's paid back.
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
the record industry constantly contradicts itself with its physical property vs intellectually property stance. on one hand, they say you are paying for the license, but yet if you want to return your scratched cd for the cost of the media, you can't do that. now they want mp3 for essentially a license that the user already has. they can't have it both ways! well what is it? am i paying for the license or the disc?!?!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
too bad i don't have moderator access because i really laughed my ass off on this one!
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
if you're saying you do this without optimizations then you are either full of shit or you're not programming win32 applications.
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Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
this is important with regards to server-side java. i build on my nt station and just drop in the jars on the production hp-ux server. I LOVE THAT. plus the fact that i can use my classes across various different application servers is a big plus. we're using the same business logic that we use as our gui client application. they say java doesn't live up to the hype but it definitely lives up to the portability and scalability hype! java is very powerful in this arena. i plan to use it for years to come.
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!
i think that's because you have to do all the optimizations yourself in cygwin! have you seen the size of the binaries it makes?!?! that's why i switched to free borland c++!
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J Perry Fecteau, 5-time Mr. Internet
Ejercisio Perfecto: from Geek to GOD in WEEKS!