The US government - which in its current form has led the world's leading/only superpower for over a century - is "incompetent"? No, my friend. It might be miles from perfect. It might be partly corrupted by power and the powerful (though it experiences nothing like the corruption of some governments). It might fuck up royally from time to time. But, as an organisation, as a whole over time, it is as far from "incompetent" as any large organisation can hope to be.
And I say this as someone who doesn't think of the US government as particularly moral. I just think it's fucking good at what it does, which is why it's where it is, and my country is not.
Three little maids from school are we Pert as a school-girl well can be Filled to the brim with girlish glee Three little maids from school
Everything is a source of fun Nobody's safe, for we care for none Life is a joke that's just begun Three little maids from school
Three little maids who, all unwary Come from a ladies' seminary Freed from its genius tutelary Three little maids from school Three little maids from school
One little maid is a bride, Yum-Yum Two little maids in attendance come Three little maids is the total sum Three little maids from school Three little maids from school
From three little maids take one away Two little maids remain, and they Won't have to wait very long, they say Three little maids from school Three little maids from school
Three little maids who, all unwary Come from a ladies' seminary Freed from its genius tutelary Three little maids from school Three little maids from school
If it's clear that the IRS employees dishonestly or incompetently disobeyed the auditor's instructions then removing them makes sense. I wouldn't really identify that as a "punishment", though - that's just removing people who aren't doing their job. People are not fired as punishment. Indeed, from the IRS PoV it'd be a good opportunity to obtain better workers - again, assuming they demonstrated dishonesty/incompetence.
Yeah but that sort of logic won't allow people to add a poorly understood event to their "LIST OF REASONS WHY IRS (AND GOV IN GENERAL) IS EVIL AND SHUD BE ELIMINATED".
We could be happy that government is so open that even the tax collectors are audited, and a public announcement is made when they are judged to have not complied sufficiently. If only everything was so well overseen. (and, no, I don't have a hard on for tax collectors, but half my family was brought under a dictatorship, so I know what it looks like when a government is not accountable.)
Yeah, "every time". Like the way I read about a few dozen murders in the paper every year so it seems like "every time" someone is in the papers, they are murdered.
tl;dr "I have a hard-on for Android therefore this tangentially related idea is also good."
Microsoft have been around and leading in the consumer+developer software space for about as long as Brin&Page have been alive. I'd be careful to call anything Microsoft does retarded.
Remind me again why developers would not install development software? If you're sitting at a PC 8+ hours a day for weeks/months/years then you're sure as hell going to spend 30-60 minutes (or 5-10 minutes, if your IT dept are good) setting everything up properly to make it as efficient as possible.
A decent VCS won't work better just because you're connecting to a development machine in the cloud via RDP/VNC - and neither will it just because you connect to it via HTML+Javascript.
No one knows exactly how this project will turn out but you can bet Google has their reasons for funding it.
Yeah, to advertise to you, or to gather your data to sell to advertisers. The same reasons Google does absolutely everything.
Or anyone who tries to influence a large company or politician - lobbyists, prominent activists, etc. The NSA and its foreign partners wouldn't monitor millions of transactions per day if they're only interested in a few hundred people, would they?
Is it possible that you have issues of self-worth which you're trying to project on others?
Show them a traditional fat client and they think it's weird and awkward.
You're just making shit up. "Apps" are the Big New Thing. Never before have there been so many "traditional fat clients". The thing is they're only being released for mobile platforms, while the PC platform desperately tries to get rid of them. And why? Because two or three huge companies hate Microsoft, and think this is the way to wrest control of the APIs.
Imagine if Microsoft had released an MS-branded laptop which only allowed you to use HTML+Javascript and Silverlight apps, and then released a development environment which ran under Silverlight.
Google's Chromium team never ceases to amaze......Google's way of pushing the limits of the Web as a platform.
There's nothing amazing about making everything into a fucking HTML+Javascript app with a lowest common denominator of UI features requiring a PC built in the last 3 years and being sufficiently crippled that you'll want to store everything on the "cloud", i.e. on Google's servers.
No, fuck off, Google. I've done dumb terminals, and then terminals with a bit of intelligence+local storage to make things just bearable enough that you're still conned into giving yourself over to someone n thousand miles away who cares as much about your data as he worries about losing the $0/month you're paying him for service.
You'd be much better off not knowing whats going on and being in a state of ignorant bliss.
Any pilot who thinks like that ought never to be flying a passenger-carrying plane. It's no wonder there are so many people with irrational fear of flying, if there is an attitude of ignorance is good.
But no, if there's a need for passengers to take action - which will be to save themselves after the pilot's saved the plane - the last thing you want them doing is clinging to their iPhones.
LOL - OK buddy. In the UK, Directors have a union (Institute of Directors), business owners have a union (CBI), farm owners have a union (NFU - which actually comprises a lot of wealthy landowners, explaining the often right-leaning politics), doctors have a union (BMA), university lecturers have a union (UCU)... but you're too smart for that because you DO COMPUTERS. Carry on with that rat race!
I can't speak for everywhere else but where I live there are plenty of well-paying development jobs
Oh, that's all right then. And there were plenty in 1999, too.
and I've never seen the type of behavior you describe among my peers.
Then you work with your eyes closed. That sort of behaviour exists throughout society - it's just more prevalent among antisocial types.
If you stay in one position too long and let your skills stagnate you do run the risk of becoming obsolete.
Yeah, if you let your skills stagnate in ANY job then you run the risk of becoming obsolete. Wobegon effect - all developers are just fabulous, eh?
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Hear, hear! It is when everything looks like it's going right that you can be most sure that everything is going wrong.
Unless you work for the government...
Oh, grow up.
The US government - which in its current form has led the world's leading/only superpower for over a century - is "incompetent"? No, my friend. It might be miles from perfect. It might be partly corrupted by power and the powerful (though it experiences nothing like the corruption of some governments). It might fuck up royally from time to time. But, as an organisation, as a whole over time, it is as far from "incompetent" as any large organisation can hope to be.
And I say this as someone who doesn't think of the US government as particularly moral. I just think it's fucking good at what it does, which is why it's where it is, and my country is not.
But consider that the Mikado also said
Three little maids from school are we
Pert as a school-girl well can be
Filled to the brim with girlish glee
Three little maids from school
Everything is a source of fun
Nobody's safe, for we care for none
Life is a joke that's just begun
Three little maids from school
Three little maids who, all unwary
Come from a ladies' seminary
Freed from its genius tutelary
Three little maids from school
Three little maids from school
One little maid is a bride, Yum-Yum
Two little maids in attendance come
Three little maids is the total sum
Three little maids from school
Three little maids from school
From three little maids take one away
Two little maids remain, and they
Won't have to wait very long, they say
Three little maids from school
Three little maids from school
Three little maids who, all unwary
Come from a ladies' seminary
Freed from its genius tutelary
Three little maids from school
Three little maids from school
wat
If it's clear that the IRS employees dishonestly or incompetently disobeyed the auditor's instructions then removing them makes sense. I wouldn't really identify that as a "punishment", though - that's just removing people who aren't doing their job. People are not fired as punishment. Indeed, from the IRS PoV it'd be a good opportunity to obtain better workers - again, assuming they demonstrated dishonesty/incompetence.
Yeah but that sort of logic won't allow people to add a poorly understood event to their "LIST OF REASONS WHY IRS (AND GOV IN GENERAL) IS EVIL AND SHUD BE ELIMINATED".
We could be happy that government is so open that even the tax collectors are audited, and a public announcement is made when they are judged to have not complied sufficiently. If only everything was so well overseen. (and, no, I don't have a hard on for tax collectors, but half my family was brought under a dictatorship, so I know what it looks like when a government is not accountable.)
"Punishing" the IRS would be moving money from one part of government to another, and wouldn't fix anything.
Fines don't work. Prison doesn't work, except to protect future victims. Punishment in general does not fix behaviour. Values, not regulations.
Gentlemen, engage your confirmation biases.
Yeah, "every time". Like the way I read about a few dozen murders in the paper every year so it seems like "every time" someone is in the papers, they are murdered.
tl;dr "I have a hard-on for Android therefore this tangentially related idea is also good."
Microsoft have been around and leading in the consumer+developer software space for about as long as Brin&Page have been alive. I'd be careful to call anything Microsoft does retarded.
Remind me again why developers would not install development software? If you're sitting at a PC 8+ hours a day for weeks/months/years then you're sure as hell going to spend 30-60 minutes (or 5-10 minutes, if your IT dept are good) setting everything up properly to make it as efficient as possible.
Oh look, it's the, "They'd paid for it otherwise!" argument.
greatly simplify multiple people collaborating
A decent VCS won't work better just because you're connecting to a development machine in the cloud via RDP/VNC - and neither will it just because you connect to it via HTML+Javascript.
No one knows exactly how this project will turn out but you can bet Google has their reasons for funding it.
Yeah, to advertise to you, or to gather your data to sell to advertisers. The same reasons Google does absolutely everything.
Or anyone who tries to influence a large company or politician - lobbyists, prominent activists, etc. The NSA and its foreign partners wouldn't monitor millions of transactions per day if they're only interested in a few hundred people, would they?
Is it possible that you have issues of self-worth which you're trying to project on others?
Beautifully put.
Anything on the web which requires more than IE6 is excessively complicated or needless eye-candy.
The web is first rate for delivering information, and third rate for delivering software.
If "can sync data when you're online" => "web app" then thanks to rsync I've just wep-appified EVERYTHING, fuck yeah!
Show them a traditional fat client and they think it's weird and awkward.
You're just making shit up. "Apps" are the Big New Thing. Never before have there been so many "traditional fat clients". The thing is they're only being released for mobile platforms, while the PC platform desperately tries to get rid of them. And why? Because two or three huge companies hate Microsoft, and think this is the way to wrest control of the APIs.
It's working.
But it's not for the user's benefit - at all.
Imagine if Microsoft had released an MS-branded laptop which only allowed you to use HTML+Javascript and Silverlight apps, and then released a development environment which ran under Silverlight.
That'd be as retarded as this is.
An "anonymous reader" wrote:
Google's Chromium team never ceases to amaze... ...Google's way of pushing the limits of the Web as a platform.
There's nothing amazing about making everything into a fucking HTML+Javascript app with a lowest common denominator of UI features requiring a PC built in the last 3 years and being sufficiently crippled that you'll want to store everything on the "cloud", i.e. on Google's servers.
No, fuck off, Google. I've done dumb terminals, and then terminals with a bit of intelligence+local storage to make things just bearable enough that you're still conned into giving yourself over to someone n thousand miles away who cares as much about your data as he worries about losing the $0/month you're paying him for service.
in a declarative language, with a dependancy tree
I have a manpage here dated 15 August 1978 - guess what it's for.
You'd be much better off not knowing whats going on and being in a state of ignorant bliss.
Any pilot who thinks like that ought never to be flying a passenger-carrying plane. It's no wonder there are so many people with irrational fear of flying, if there is an attitude of ignorance is good.
But no, if there's a need for passengers to take action - which will be to save themselves after the pilot's saved the plane - the last thing you want them doing is clinging to their iPhones.
Because, of course, more competition between developers means a greater supply of willing labour means... an increase in wages?
Your understanding of economics - it is broken.
Organized labor? Uh no, we're too smart for that.
LOL - OK buddy. In the UK, Directors have a union (Institute of Directors), business owners have a union (CBI), farm owners have a union (NFU - which actually comprises a lot of wealthy landowners, explaining the often right-leaning politics), doctors have a union (BMA), university lecturers have a union (UCU)... but you're too smart for that because you DO COMPUTERS. Carry on with that rat race!
I can't speak for everywhere else but where I live there are plenty of well-paying development jobs
Oh, that's all right then. And there were plenty in 1999, too.
and I've never seen the type of behavior you describe among my peers.
Then you work with your eyes closed. That sort of behaviour exists throughout society - it's just more prevalent among antisocial types.
If you stay in one position too long and let your skills stagnate you do run the risk of becoming obsolete.
Yeah, if you let your skills stagnate in ANY job then you run the risk of becoming obsolete. Wobegon effect - all developers are just fabulous, eh?
Thank you for demonstrating my point.
And what do you regard as the complex part of puppet itself here?