Bashing it for being slow is mostly just uninformed. Mostly the eye-candy that makes it slow. But it's that same eye-candy that is used to promote it. Probably the main thing is to find what can be easily turned off that will bring performance up to at least sub-par.
"Just right for the occasion"
Thanks. That's the sense. Except everybody is expected to do it all the time.
It's like two extra guests for dinner and everybody still has the right amount.
Culturally conditioned allocation of scarce and variable resources. Rationing without the sense of deprivation.
Plenty of coffee and 10 caffe lattes is lagom. One pot per day and a dozen other coffee drinkers would not be lagom.
Re:Oh my God, this is just too funny!
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Apache 2.0 vs. IIS
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Oh, but we can dream. Maybe someday we can get rid of Code Red on all these systems that IIS was never installed on.;)
How can you dare call MS Software "monopolistic"? Real easy. "MS just lost 120,000 sales of Windows, Office, and other accompyning applications." No monopoly. Not news.
How could a company that has a monopoly in a given market lose sales to a competitor. If that were so, then any monopoly once established could never be broken. That it can be broken does not disprove a monopoly.
They haven't switched yet. But it looks like they are in the process of switching.:-)
If the purpose of the box is to run apache, then *nix is a much better foundation. If it's a Windows box that needs to serve up a few web pages and sorta work most of the time, then...
with Apache on *nix.
The ability to run multiple Apaches on same machine.
The ability to run buggy modules with relative impunity.
The ability to upgrade Apache in place while the old one is still running.
Useable owner/group/world file permissions. Ability to have user and group with same name. Ability to soft-link so that logical structures do not have to reflect physical disk layout.
IIS might be faster. If I want faster I'll use Tux. If I want slower I'll use Tomcat.
Assuming that the Koreans have done a good job, it brings a good Asian Font desktop that much closer/better. RedHat 7.2 now has PRC Chinese desktop (from Red Flag Linux?). It's something like the interplay between KDE and Gnome, between Linux and *BSD. One improves, the others will not be far behind. I don't think RedHat wants to compete with the Koreans as to what it means to be Korean. Actually, RedHat is likely to sell more copies because of this.
Each user gets a nice looking box.
Each user gets some kind of printed documentation.
Each user gets some nice looking CDs.
Each user gets a phone number with maybe a bit of handholding and support behind it.
The vendor gets some funding.
Probably better security than you'll find now. The OS was coded in Algol. I think other languages were available, including some ability to drop into machine language. The main problem seems to be that it refused to do buffer overflows. Supposedly working programs would bomb when they did something they shouldn't. The only current rival is probably Java, provided Sun can keep everybody from screwing it up;-)
To say that because they were found guilty they can't do anything is absolutely stupid. Because they were found guilty, letting them get away with anything would be even stupider.
I'm sure there are some things that Microsoft can do. But hardly anything, anything at all.
It seems incredibly stupid to argue that because Microsoft can do one thing, they can do anything.
Because Microsoft was found guilty, everything they do is subject to scrutiny and questioning.
WHY (oh why) are we so dependant on the file name!?
All your documents are belong to Microsoft.
Works with a plain text file, too.
No reason a.txt file cannot be an executable. Probably even a way to change file associations so that it runs them instead of opening in Notepad.
What leaves the company from the company's servers is official. That is unless Microsoft's official policy is to run "unofficial" servers to connect to the internet. Unless things have changed dramatically over the last few decades, underlings do not get to establish company policy or to establish the company's persona as regards the general public.
Waves. Yes. Dunno if it's the script or something else with the timing./. seems to me to be more like following a soap opera than anything like dutifully following the news.
There was a time many months back when the ms-bashing leads were posted shortly after the astroturfers had gone beddy-bye. Fun.
The M$ plants remind me of Iraq's ambassador to the UN during the Gulf War. Sounds like it should mean something but.... painful slow.
M$ has a problem with damage control. At this point,/. is the best available resource for dealing with Microsoft worms/viruses/etc, for those of us still using the stuff. Response time is like hours compared to Microsoft's days.
I don't think the intelligent people will bolt. The mass of moldering molasses of microsoft minions gives a preview of the morass known as.NET.
Two identical polls ("Do you use Linux at home?") posted on msn.com and Slashdot Personally, I think the results would be rather interesting, primarily to get a feel of how many people would bother to vote.
The poll tries to ask something like "How many Linux users?". The answers are more like "Do Linux users visit msn.com?" and "How many/. readers use BSD/UNIX instead?"
I think the main value of a poll is to get some handle on how hot or dead a subject is, and to a slight extent, to whom. It could also be used to measure audience bias.
Even if you have a statistically valid random sample, there is still bias because the respondents will always think ahead to the consequences. For example Clinton's popularity poll numbers at the time of his attempted impeachment. The measurement is always confounded (I think that is the term). The statistically valid random sample has a further problem in that it assumes equal weight between don't-really-care and violent-opinion.
No spin. The only sidestepping is from a non-story to a story. They (ZDNet) are smart for hitting on Microsoft doing the rigging. The headline does imply that Microsoft thinks the topic is an important one. It does not imply that ZDNet or its readers think so.
If you have only number 1, you have a poll that maybe has some information, but is mostly for entertainment value. Add number 2 and you have a real story. I doubt that any of ZDNet's credibility as an information source derives from the validity of their polls. The only thing that gives any credence for the validity of the polls is that Microsoft thought it worthwhile to stuff the ballot box.
ZDNet hardly sounds like they are whining.
Put up a ho-hum poll and catch Microsoft stuffing the ballot box.
This is not the first time Microsoft has been caught using dubious practices. Last August, lobbyists acting for Microsoft went beyond the grave and dispatched letters to US states' attorneys general from two deceased people as part of a campaign to persuade government prosecutors to lay off the company in the antitrust case. Microsoft's practices may be 'old hat', but they deserve public scrutiny whenever and however possible. If you are sick of the attention, why are you reading, much less replying, the article?
But why trade a newsworthy "Microsoft stuffs ballot box again" for a reconstruction of a ho-hum poll on Web Services?
Microsoft may have shot itself in the foot this time, but future efforts may be a little more subtle. Probably the more important question is "Is this the kind of organization you want to be managing your personal and private stuff?"
There is a difference.
A bunch of guys at the IT department.
A bunch of guys at the local beer distributer.
A bunch of guys at the newspaper.
The IT department's favorite is an unusual brand.
The IT department's favorite is also everybody else's favorite.
The newspaper never checked the logs or realized what had happened, they only noted a few surprising results... ;-) They could have. Maybe they should have. Maybe they did and decided it made a better story without disclosing the funny business.
In any business where the trust of the public is at stake, this kind of shenanigan would tend to get a few people in middle management fired.
To Mindcraft Benchmarks, we can now (again) add Microsoft Surveys. Senior management usually does not apreciate having their company make a laughingstock.
Banks do not behave like this. (Disclaimer: IANAB)
Anyone who wants to manage all of this data. Good idea to stay far, far away. If your bank suddenly starts wanting personal data that it does not need, it's time to find another bank.
Banks deal in areas where they really need to stay above suspicion.
Slashdot has only as much of my private data as I choose to make public. This exclude things like purchasing habits and credit card details. Further the posts are points that are made in the context at the time, and do not even necessarily express the opinions of the poster.
Is stuffing the ballot box with forged ballots terribly different than rallying your supporters to get out the vote? Very different. With the idea of secret ballot, asking someone if they voted is ok, asking who they voted for is not socially acceptable. Even if you are transporting voters to the polls to support your candidate, any disenting opinions you bring are entitled to their own privacy. At least that is how I think it is supposed to work.
drawing conclusions from evidence so slender it's all but non-existent Granted he didn't give any evidence that Microsoft actually pays its employees, but it would be extremely surprising if it didn't.
I'm a newbie, but:
Unix is:
rwx permissions for owner/group/world
owner:group ownership of files
hard links and soft links
real pipes
On Unix it is not an error to delete a file being written to by another process. I doubt that you can uninstall most programs under Windows 2000 while they are running.
And yes, Unix is (still) a small simple OS. Compare pipes and backquotes to IBM's JCL.
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Bashing it for being slow is mostly just uninformed.
Mostly the eye-candy that makes it slow. But it's that same eye-candy that is used to promote it. Probably the main thing is to find what can be easily turned off that will bring performance up to at least sub-par.
"Just right for the occasion"
Thanks. That's the sense. Except everybody is expected to do it all the time.
It's like two extra guests for dinner and everybody still has the right amount.
Culturally conditioned allocation of scarce and variable resources. Rationing without the sense of deprivation.
Plenty of coffee and 10 caffe lattes is lagom. One pot per day and a dozen other coffee drinkers would not be lagom.
Oh, but we can dream. Maybe someday we can get rid of Code Red on all these systems that IIS was never installed on. ;)
How can you dare call MS Software "monopolistic"?
:-)
Real easy. "MS just lost 120,000 sales of Windows, Office, and other accompyning applications." No monopoly. Not news.
How could a company that has a monopoly in a given market lose sales to a competitor.
If that were so, then any monopoly once established could never be broken. That it can be broken does not disprove a monopoly.
They haven't switched yet. But it looks like they are in the process of switching.
If the purpose of the box is to run apache, then *nix is a much better foundation. If it's a Windows box that needs to serve up a few web pages and sorta work most of the time, then ...
with Apache on *nix.
The ability to run multiple Apaches on same machine.
The ability to run buggy modules with relative impunity.
The ability to upgrade Apache in place while the old one is still running.
Useable owner/group/world file permissions. Ability to have user and group with same name. Ability to soft-link so that logical structures do not have to reflect physical disk layout.
IIS might be faster. If I want faster I'll use Tux. If I want slower I'll use Tomcat.
In the vain hope that maybe, just maybe, Code Red would stop filling up our Apache log files.
Assuming that the Koreans have done a good job, it brings a good Asian Font desktop that much closer/better. RedHat 7.2 now has PRC Chinese desktop (from Red Flag Linux?). It's something like the interplay between KDE and Gnome, between Linux and *BSD. One improves, the others will not be far behind. I don't think RedHat wants to compete with the Koreans as to what it means to be Korean. Actually, RedHat is likely to sell more copies because of this.
Each user gets a nice looking box.
Each user gets some kind of printed documentation.
Each user gets some nice looking CDs.
Each user gets a phone number with maybe a bit of handholding and support behind it.
The vendor gets some funding.
This is being bought for "users" not "hackers".
Probably better security than you'll find now. The OS was coded in Algol. I think other languages were available, including some ability to drop into machine language. The main problem seems to be that it refused to do buffer overflows. Supposedly working programs would bomb when they did something they shouldn't. The only current rival is probably Java, provided Sun can keep everybody from screwing it up ;-)
To say that because they were found guilty they can't do anything is absolutely stupid.
Because they were found guilty, letting them get away with anything would be even stupider.
I'm sure there are some things that Microsoft can do. But hardly anything, anything at all.
It seems incredibly stupid to argue that because Microsoft can do one thing, they can do anything.
Because Microsoft was found guilty, everything they do is subject to scrutiny and questioning.
WHY (oh why) are we so dependant on the file name!?
.txt file cannot be an executable. Probably even a way to change file associations so that it runs them instead of opening in Notepad.
All your documents are belong to Microsoft.
Works with a plain text file, too.
No reason a
What leaves the company from the company's servers is official. That is unless Microsoft's official policy is to run "unofficial" servers to connect to the internet. Unless things have changed dramatically over the last few decades, underlings do not get to establish company policy or to establish the company's persona as regards the general public.
Waves. Yes. Dunno if it's the script or something else with the timing. /. seems to me to be more like following a soap opera than anything like dutifully following the news.
.... painful slow.
/. is the best available resource for dealing with Microsoft worms/viruses/etc, for those of us still using the stuff. Response time is like hours compared to Microsoft's days.
.NET.
There was a time many months back when the ms-bashing leads were posted shortly after the astroturfers had gone beddy-bye. Fun.
The M$ plants remind me of Iraq's ambassador to the UN during the Gulf War. Sounds like it should mean something but
M$ has a problem with damage control. At this point,
I don't think the intelligent people will bolt. The mass of moldering molasses of microsoft minions gives a preview of the morass known as
Two identical polls ("Do you use Linux at home?") posted on msn.com and Slashdot /. readers use BSD/UNIX instead?"
Personally, I think the results would be rather interesting, primarily to get a feel of how many people would bother to vote.
The poll tries to ask something like "How many Linux users?". The answers are more like "Do Linux users visit msn.com?" and "How many
I think the main value of a poll is to get some handle on how hot or dead a subject is, and to a slight extent, to whom. It could also be used to measure audience bias.
Even if you have a statistically valid random sample, there is still bias because the respondents will always think ahead to the consequences. For example Clinton's popularity poll numbers at the time of his attempted impeachment. The measurement is always confounded (I think that is the term). The statistically valid random sample has a further problem in that it assumes equal weight between don't-really-care and violent-opinion.
No spin. The only sidestepping is from a non-story to a story. They (ZDNet) are smart for hitting on Microsoft doing the rigging. The headline does imply that Microsoft thinks the topic is an important one. It does not imply that ZDNet or its readers think so.
If you have only number 1, you have a poll that maybe has some information, but is mostly for entertainment value. Add number 2 and you have a real story. I doubt that any of ZDNet's credibility as an information source derives from the validity of their polls. The only thing that gives any credence for the validity of the polls is that Microsoft thought it worthwhile to stuff the ballot box.
ZDNet hardly sounds like they are whining.
Put up a ho-hum poll and catch Microsoft stuffing the ballot box.
This is not the first time Microsoft has been caught using dubious practices. Last August, lobbyists acting for Microsoft went beyond the grave and dispatched letters to US states' attorneys general from two deceased people as part of a campaign to persuade government prosecutors to lay off the company in the antitrust case.
Microsoft's practices may be 'old hat', but they deserve public scrutiny whenever and however possible. If you are sick of the attention, why are you reading, much less replying, the article?
But why trade a newsworthy "Microsoft stuffs ballot box again" for a reconstruction of a ho-hum poll on Web Services?
Microsoft may have shot itself in the foot this time, but future efforts may be a little more subtle.
Probably the more important question is "Is this the kind of organization you want to be managing your personal and private stuff?"
There is a difference.
A bunch of guys at the IT department.
A bunch of guys at the local beer distributer.
A bunch of guys at the newspaper.
The IT department's favorite is an unusual brand.
The IT department's favorite is also everybody else's favorite.
The newspaper never checked the logs or realized what had happened, they only noted a few surprising results...
;-) They could have. Maybe they should have. Maybe they did and decided it made a better story without disclosing the funny business.
In any business where the trust of the public is at stake, this kind of shenanigan would tend to get a few people in middle management fired.
To Mindcraft Benchmarks, we can now (again) add Microsoft Surveys. Senior management usually does not apreciate having their company make a laughingstock.
Banks do not behave like this. (Disclaimer: IANAB)
Anyone who wants to manage all of this data. Good idea to stay far, far away. If your bank suddenly starts wanting personal data that it does not need, it's time to find another bank.
Banks deal in areas where they really need to stay above suspicion.
Slashdot has only as much of my private data as I choose to make public. This exclude things like purchasing habits and credit card details. Further the posts are points that are made in the context at the time, and do not even necessarily express the opinions of the poster.
Is stuffing the ballot box with forged ballots terribly different than rallying your supporters to get out the vote?
Very different. With the idea of secret ballot, asking someone if they voted is ok, asking who they voted for is not socially acceptable. Even if you are transporting voters to the polls to support your candidate, any disenting opinions you bring are entitled to their own privacy. At least that is how I think it is supposed to work.
drawing conclusions from evidence so slender it's all but non-existent
Granted he didn't give any evidence that Microsoft actually pays its employees, but it would be extremely surprising if it didn't.
Satellite: High bandwidth, High latency.
DialUp: Low bandwidth, Low latency.
Be nice to combine both in a single connection.
I'm a newbie, but:
Unix is:
rwx permissions for owner/group/world
owner:group ownership of files
hard links and soft links
real pipes
On Unix it is not an error to delete a file being written to by another process. I doubt that you can uninstall most programs under Windows 2000 while they are running.
And yes, Unix is (still) a small simple OS. Compare pipes and backquotes to IBM's JCL.