In the same breath... One should carefully consider that while it's "compatible" with most activities involving computing, the Merlot (Or perhaps a good Shiraz, Cabernet, or perhaps maybe a Riesling...mmm...now you have me wanting to crack open a bottle when I get home from work...) probably doesn't mix well with E-mail, Web Surfing, or things like them...
How many seconds does it take to "misplace" or otherwise disappear a batch of paper ballots?
"Not counted" works just as well as the missing entries, etc.
None of it is actually at all "secure" in the normal sense of the word. There's more secure means- and if you're going to do something like this, one should pick more as opposed to less. Unfortunately, for the electronic ballot system makers they've been in a race to the bottom, trying to out cheap (and by that, I mean lack of quality) each other on things such that there's no good semblance of security at all present in ANY of the units- period.
Actually, he CAN enjoy it himself. They only settled with PART of the Rights Holders. He's got Standing, meaning he can sue them as well. The settlement that Verizon and Actiontec only counts for Anderson and Landley's beef on the matter.:-D
Heh... John, you're a bad, bad kid. But, I suspect you know this already...:-D
All things being said, I think this would fall under the "serves them right" category if someone were to come up with an answer for P2P that did this to someone like Comcast.
I think the point is that all one needs to do to fix "net neutrality" is to enforce Common Carrier status on the ISPs.
Yes, it'll raise prices a bit, but it'll put the kibosh on most of these fun and games. How to get them to agree to being brought back the Common Carrier protection umbrella? Hold them actionable for the data that they're transporting. Not the P2P stuff, but all the other bogus things- Kiddie Porn, Animal Porn (it's illegal in some municipalities...), that sort of thing.
Hang Comcast or one of the other mainline players out to dry on something like this (they ARE contributing unless they hold Common Carrier status, no matter what their silly TOS says...that won't protect them...) and you'll be seeing them realize that the lack of Common Carrier status, the trying to get out way cheaper than they ought to, etc. as being a BAD IDEA for them in the first place and it'll largely come to a halt.
Seriously, give us your part of the story. All of it.
It's called, "Sour Grapes". He didn't think to get himself added to the list of litigants or viewed the whole process with disdain and didn't get to be part of it. Now that they're settling with PART of the Copyright holders (Here's the key thing there- doesn't matter WHO does the filing so long as they have standing. Sorry Diesel Dave, they had Standing, just like you did.) he's pissed off he wasn't in on the whole deal.
You may not LIKE it, Diesel Dave, but they bothered to litigate- YOU didn't. You all have Standing to sue the hell out of the Infringers. Keep in mind, though, Actiontec settled the infringement matter with THEM, but not YOU unless you tacitly chose to allow them to do so. Perhaps you can sue them too... It certainly wouldn't be the first time for a Legal "dogpile" on someone who was guilty of Infringement. Also keep in mind that they actually brought the matter to the point of an actual trial being filed against them for Infringement- I would consider it a matter that they pay SOMETHING back to me and possibly the community at large after the cute games they played. You don't get to just publish stuff when you play the "I'm bigger than you are, go to Hell!" card on something like this.
Why do you need a precedent? Especially in the case of the V2.0 of the GPL, it's solidly based in current Copyright law. It's a derivative works license. The royalty owed for the derivative work you produce from the original protected work is to allow YOUR derivations to be available under the same license and to provide an offer of the source code for any derivatives or mere copies of the protected work.
Don't comply with the royalty arrangement, the agreement is invalidated. If you're not operating under an agreement with the original works providers (in toto) you're guilty of the act of Infringement, which is actionable just as if you'd illegally duplicated thousands upon thousands of Brittney's latest album (though why anyone in their right mind would want to DO that is beyond me...:-D ).
And, that is what you keep seeing here. People caught with their hand in the cookie jar, breaking Copyright law and capitulating instead of facing the much worse penalties which are typically involved with such a breach of law.
You don't NEED the GPL to be "validated", each settlement of this scope and scale (especially THIS one, if you think long and hard about it...)- have already DONE so.
You know...if you'd addressed the person that posted the links, I'd say you actually might have had a suitable position.
Unfortunately, you addressed a different person, coming in with him looking at all the stuff and stating that NEITHER position is wholly correct. Your position ISN'T any more moderate than the one the original poster took. I pointed out that there was much pointing to his position and much, much less for yours and that perhaps you might want to rethink.
I would rather have the intermediate level waste than the high-level stuff that results from a WMR design. A WMR design can have a TMI incident and a GMR can produce a Chernobyl. A pebble bed can't really melt down by design and the intermediate level waste actually isn't much more than what you'd find from the intermediate results from the other to mainline designs or any of the other proposed designs out there.
If you're doing Fission, it's the one that makes sense unless you can build up a Migma reaction design (which would be the best of all worlds, really...).
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what YOU think it means...
Considering that CDBaby, PayPlay, and a host of others provide me with the media I really care about- and they're NOT RIAA or MPAA affiliated...
They control the Pop Culture media distribution. There's a reason why they're "losing" money- and it has NOTHING to do with them being ripped off by infringers. It's because their stuff's mostly crap these days and there's other performers making a decent living of things WITHOUT them.
Opt out of their lose-lose game they've been playing for decades now. The more that do, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned.
No... Malicious prosecution would be filing a suit and not having a basis for it.
The RIAA's guilty of that one. Even if we fully bankrolled her (I think there might be other issues with that than this...), it'd be legit on those grounds.
Indeed... There's alternative designs to the current water based systems that are inherently safer than the current designs. Nobody's looking into them for development because the current designs are "good enough" which may make it a GOOD thing. If there's insufficient parts for the PWR design, perhaps they'll consider a pebble bed design instead.
You make it sound as if there was an angst-filled teen who said to his mom, "I'm going to off myself", she called the police, and they summarily came out and did it for him.
In reality, reading the stuff on the boy online and elsewhere, that's largely what transpired here.
Even if he had a severe drinking problem, they disarmed the boy when they aced him with the beanbag gun 5 times. Shot him in the back, as he staggered back up to the house according to several witnesses.
The police were so bold as to indicate that Tasing him probably wouldn't have worked. Heh... Riight. A real Taser can drop a person jacked up on Phencyclidine who can't feel a damn thing and do superhuman things while trashing their bodies doing it. A drunkard, no matter how agitated wouldn't have been able to have stood a chance. The cops purportedly had real Tasers on them.
Now, perhaps, it's that neither of us are right here- after all, neither of us are there IN Portland. I do know that there are issues going on with the Police up there from my Stepdaughter. Couple that with what's publicly available... Perhaps you should back down a bit on your position there- it's definitely NOT supported by the links or the facts.
Heh... You certainly don't think small, do you? I like what you're proposing.
Unfortunately, I don't know if Harvard, Yale, etc. would be interested in holding such a fun-fest or allowing one to occur. While I'm not a lawyer, I would definitely love to chip in ~$100 to help 'em brainstorm and ferret out the fun stuff on the RIAA and their members. It's a long time in the coming, I suspect.
The problem with this line of thinking is that the representative Labels for RIAA can do the investigations themselves and ONLY for themselves- but they can't comment on or share info about any infringements of anything other than the stuff they have rights for.
And there's some limitations on what is and isn't legit for them to do.
MediaSentry's not allowed to do this on behalf of RIAA and RIAA isn't allowed to do it on behalf of the member labels because they're not licensed to do so in pretty much all the States requiring licensing to be had for Investigative services of ANY kind.
Doesn't matter if you offered the stuff up or not. It's inadmissible in Court. It can land the people doing the investigation the way they've done it in jail.
How, pray tell, did the people that came up with what you were taught, learn it in the first place?
They taught themselves.
That is how it's always been. That will be how it will always be. It doesn't matter if it's an instrument. It doesn't matter if it's engineering. It doesn't matter if it's programming.
You intrinsically have the ability to make your mind move in those directions or have the ability to be shown that to do the things you want to do. There's no amount of education that will let you code if you don't have the ability to make your mind move in those directions. To be able to think that way.
No amount of education will help you unless you can do that sort of thing.
So, to sum up, I see no shortage of programmers, just a shortage of good programmers.
Heh... My experience is that it's not so much that there's a shortage of good programmers; it's that you keep seeing businesses with HIGHLY unrealistic ideas of what a position needs. But then, I suspect both is actually going on; it's in what all you end up seeing.
Uh... Dude? Did you even RTFA? (No, that'd presume too much- it is Slashdot, after all...)
Ubuntu PASTED Vista, and fared really good against Solaris, even when it was beaten by it.
Reality is, this largely has nothing to do with whatever Distro you care to favor- it's that an out of the box Linux distribution pretty much pasted an out of the box Vista install.
Considering that the workstation app crowd are, in many cases, still using immediate mode OpenGL calls...
Do you honestly think that this is going to make things work to make them change things?
It has more to do with it's interrupt handling, etc. than anything else. Vista doesn't do so hot, even with DirectX, because it's been rewritten in a few ways that don't help them any.
It has a little less to do with them putting effort into the driver and more to do with the interrupt handling model and how OpenGL ties into the OS as a whole.
And, you'd be assuming wrong. Neither NVidia nor AMD have old or differing code, from what I understand, for EITHER OpenGL API layer.
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In the same breath... One should carefully consider that while it's "compatible" with most activities involving computing,
the Merlot (Or perhaps a good Shiraz, Cabernet, or perhaps maybe a Riesling...mmm...now you have me wanting to crack open
a bottle when I get home from work...) probably doesn't mix well with E-mail, Web Surfing, or things like them...
They're not.
How many seconds does it take to "misplace" or otherwise disappear a batch of paper ballots?
"Not counted" works just as well as the missing entries, etc.
None of it is actually at all "secure" in the normal sense of the word. There's more secure means- and if you're going to
do something like this, one should pick more as opposed to less. Unfortunately, for the electronic ballot system makers
they've been in a race to the bottom, trying to out cheap (and by that, I mean lack of quality) each other on things such
that there's no good semblance of security at all present in ANY of the units- period.
Actually, he CAN enjoy it himself. They only settled with PART of the Rights Holders. He's got Standing, meaning he can sue them as well. :-D
The settlement that Verizon and Actiontec only counts for Anderson and Landley's beef on the matter.
He.
Can.
Still.
Sue.
Heh... John, you're a bad, bad kid. But, I suspect you know this already... :-D
All things being said, I think this would fall under the "serves them right" category if someone were to come up with an answer for P2P that did this to someone like Comcast.
I think the point is that all one needs to do to fix "net neutrality" is to enforce Common Carrier status on the ISPs.
Yes, it'll raise prices a bit, but it'll put the kibosh on most of these fun and games. How to get them to agree to
being brought back the Common Carrier protection umbrella? Hold them actionable for the data that they're transporting.
Not the P2P stuff, but all the other bogus things- Kiddie Porn, Animal Porn (it's illegal in some municipalities...),
that sort of thing.
Hang Comcast or one of the other mainline players out to dry on something like this (they ARE contributing unless they
hold Common Carrier status, no matter what their silly TOS says...that won't protect them...) and you'll be seeing them
realize that the lack of Common Carrier status, the trying to get out way cheaper than they ought to, etc. as being a
BAD IDEA for them in the first place and it'll largely come to a halt.
It's called, "Sour Grapes". He didn't think to get himself added to the list of litigants or viewed the whole process with disdain and didn't
get to be part of it. Now that they're settling with PART of the Copyright holders (Here's the key thing there- doesn't matter WHO does the
filing so long as they have standing. Sorry Diesel Dave, they had Standing, just like you did.) he's pissed off he wasn't in on the whole deal.
You may not LIKE it, Diesel Dave, but they bothered to litigate- YOU didn't. You all have Standing to sue the hell out of the Infringers.
Keep in mind, though, Actiontec settled the infringement matter with THEM, but not YOU unless you tacitly chose to allow them to do so.
Perhaps you can sue them too... It certainly wouldn't be the first time for a Legal "dogpile" on someone who was guilty of Infringement.
Also keep in mind that they actually brought the matter to the point of an actual trial being filed against them for Infringement- I would
consider it a matter that they pay SOMETHING back to me and possibly the community at large after the cute games they played. You don't
get to just publish stuff when you play the "I'm bigger than you are, go to Hell!" card on something like this.
Why do you need a precedent? Especially in the case of the V2.0 of the GPL, it's solidly based
:-D ).
in current Copyright law. It's a derivative works license. The royalty owed for the derivative work
you produce from the original protected work is to allow YOUR derivations to be available under the
same license and to provide an offer of the source code for any derivatives or mere copies of the
protected work.
Don't comply with the royalty arrangement, the agreement is invalidated. If you're not operating
under an agreement with the original works providers (in toto) you're guilty of the act of Infringement,
which is actionable just as if you'd illegally duplicated thousands upon thousands of Brittney's latest
album (though why anyone in their right mind would want to DO that is beyond me...
And, that is what you keep seeing here. People caught with their hand in the cookie jar, breaking
Copyright law and capitulating instead of facing the much worse penalties which are typically involved
with such a breach of law.
You don't NEED the GPL to be "validated", each settlement of this scope and scale (especially THIS one,
if you think long and hard about it...)- have already DONE so.
You know...if you'd addressed the person that posted the links, I'd say you actually might have had a suitable position.
Unfortunately, you addressed a different person, coming in with him looking at all the stuff and stating that NEITHER position is wholly correct. Your position ISN'T any more moderate than the one the original poster took. I pointed out that there was much pointing to his position and much, much less for yours and that perhaps you might want to rethink.
I would rather have the intermediate level waste than the high-level stuff that results from a WMR design.
A WMR design can have a TMI incident and a GMR can produce a Chernobyl. A pebble bed can't really melt down
by design and the intermediate level waste actually isn't much more than what you'd find from the intermediate
results from the other to mainline designs or any of the other proposed designs out there.
If you're doing Fission, it's the one that makes sense unless you can build up a Migma reaction design (which would be
the best of all worlds, really...).
Heh...
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what YOU think it means...
Considering that CDBaby, PayPlay, and a host of others provide me with the media I really care about- and they're NOT RIAA or MPAA affiliated...
They control the Pop Culture media distribution. There's a reason why they're "losing" money- and it has NOTHING to do with them
being ripped off by infringers. It's because their stuff's mostly crap these days and there's other performers making a decent living
of things WITHOUT them.
Opt out of their lose-lose game they've been playing for decades now. The more that do, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned.
Random (or not so much so...) shredding from the guilty is actionable in many different ways.
I would NOT want to be the RIAA if they're caught with Spoilation or Contempt of Court in this matter.
No... Malicious prosecution would be filing a suit and not having a basis for it.
The RIAA's guilty of that one. Even if we fully bankrolled her (I think there might be other issues with that than this...), it'd be legit on those grounds.
Indeed... There's alternative designs to the current water based systems that are inherently safer than
the current designs. Nobody's looking into them for development because the current designs are "good enough"
which may make it a GOOD thing. If there's insufficient parts for the PWR design, perhaps they'll consider
a pebble bed design instead.
Actually, it's less of a story about RateMyCop and more to do with (No-)GoDaddy doing more of it's nice n' nifty antics.
Heh... You certainly don't think small, do you? I like what you're proposing.
Unfortunately, I don't know if Harvard, Yale, etc. would be interested in holding such a fun-fest or allowing one to occur.
While I'm not a lawyer, I would definitely love to chip in ~$100 to help 'em brainstorm and ferret out the fun stuff on the
RIAA and their members. It's a long time in the coming, I suspect.
The problem with this line of thinking is that the representative Labels for RIAA can do the investigations themselves and ONLY for
themselves- but they can't comment on or share info about any infringements of anything other than the stuff they have rights for.
And there's some limitations on what is and isn't legit for them to do.
MediaSentry's not allowed to do this on behalf of RIAA and RIAA isn't allowed to do it on behalf of the member labels because they're
not licensed to do so in pretty much all the States requiring licensing to be had for Investigative services of ANY kind.
Doesn't matter if you offered the stuff up or not. It's inadmissible in Court. It can land the people doing the investigation
the way they've done it in jail.
Heh...
How, pray tell, did the people that came up with what you were taught, learn it in the first place?
They taught themselves.
That is how it's always been. That will be how it will always be. It doesn't matter if it's an instrument.
It doesn't matter if it's engineering. It doesn't matter if it's programming.
You intrinsically have the ability to make your mind move in those directions or have the ability to be
shown that to do the things you want to do. There's no amount of education that will let you code if
you don't have the ability to make your mind move in those directions. To be able to think that way.
No amount of education will help you unless you can do that sort of thing.
Heh... My experience is that it's not so much that there's a shortage of good programmers; it's that you
keep seeing businesses with HIGHLY unrealistic ideas of what a position needs. But then, I suspect both is
actually going on; it's in what all you end up seeing.
Heh... You took the words right out of my mouth...
Nooo... It's an OLD saying.
Heh... It IS Slashdot we're posting this on, after all... >:-)
:-D
NOBODY reads the effin' article, don't you know...
Uh... Dude? Did you even RTFA? (No, that'd presume too much- it is Slashdot, after all...)
Ubuntu PASTED Vista, and fared really good against Solaris, even when it was beaten by it.
Reality is, this largely has nothing to do with whatever Distro you care to favor- it's that an out
of the box Linux distribution pretty much pasted an out of the box Vista install.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Considering that the workstation app crowd are, in many cases, still using immediate mode OpenGL calls...
Do you honestly think that this is going to make things work to make them change things?
It has more to do with it's interrupt handling, etc. than anything else. Vista doesn't do so hot, even with
DirectX, because it's been rewritten in a few ways that don't help them any.
It has a little less to do with them putting effort into the driver and more to do with the interrupt handling model and how OpenGL
ties into the OS as a whole.
And, you'd be assuming wrong. Neither NVidia nor AMD have old or differing code, from what I understand, for EITHER OpenGL API layer.