So, what experiences have you had with code reviews in an open source project? What was the process? Did it work? If it didn't, what went wrong? How would you go about starting a code review process in an open source project?"
Well thankfully I'm not a coder (although I try and succeed and actually succeed when I need something for myself) but here is my take on certain issues.
I think the overall Open Source arena is the best thing to happen in computerland, however I also see a lack of focus, and direction when it comes to Open Source. Too many great programmers with kick ass ideas, but no true skills from many to follow up on those ideas, and directions.
One of the things that benefit "profiting corporations" is, their business needs to survive on it which is why they pay people to produce, whereas in the Open Source arena, many do it for the love of it, insight, hobby, etc., but there is nothing that is obligating anyone to do anything.
Using SourceForge as an example, its a nice idea, but its horrendous as all hell looking for anything, and provided you find something neat, chances are many of the ideas are often in limbo. Undeveloped for any reason, programmers too busy, they don't care, etc. These instances I guess is what many corporations use to attack the ideaology of the Open Source arena. "It will fail because no one can come to terms, follow up, etc." and sometimes you have to look at it from their perspective in order to understand why commercialism will always outperform (martket wise) Open Source.
Another quirk is the lack of assistance surrounding Open Source projects, for instance, many know their projects will likely (85%) of the times be a free project, so many don't think about executing a plan on assisting those who end up using their software, which is another reason corps. have the upper hand. Maybe if some got together with non geek marketing people, they could document things in better fashion and provide assistance to companies at a set price, which I'm sure would give programmers more incentive to do better work, and at least finish some of it for a change. But like I said I'm not a programmer;)
Agreed which is why I stated that some of the students who opposed these things should air their concerns, they should know (or hopefully be aware) that the world would be watching to see that another massacre would not occur.
Again I also stated that those who are oppressed should look into getting into politics now to aviod having their kin subjected to this in the future. I don't disagree with your points, maybe I'm too tired to take them for what their worth, and I sincerely agree with most of the things you've said to an extent. About the westernization, you have to understand, they have to form their own laws, judgments, etc., its kind of like what the US had in the 60's in the form of racism, its a long road but slowly, people are moving towards better modes of life.
First of all thats a shitty case to reference as Kevin was blatantly committing crimes. Sure the government pounded law after law after law on Kevin but he is no martyr nor should he be treated as one.
I totally disagree with him getting shafted on a trial for so long, and one of the things I blame on society is their lack of knowledge regarding computer crimes, etc., etc., and the so called "jury of your peers" bs.
Referencing Kevin is like a pro doo hickey radical coming here, and saying something like "Well Timothy McVeigh was right to think that be committing his crime, he would make those aware of the bs gov is spewing on groups like those in Waco" or something like that.
Kevin was a criminal no one gave him permission to go into any of those networks, had it been a flip side situation where he was contemplating selling information he garnered, (which no one but him will ever know) people would've called for harsh sentencing.
Thats reminscent of Christopher Columbus, and Spain shafting the Native Americans, then claiming fame by so called Discovering America.
How was it discovered when it already existed, and why do history books still not show his true actions during those times
Whatever the claim on this stash, if someone found it, ethically they should return it, but if law allows, they did find it, why shouldn't they also have the option to keep it. Look at what Swiss banks did to the Jews, then again even some American companies.
Well then your point is well missed, since you have nothing to substantiate anything you said. You can't compare something that happened 12 years ago with this instance, without supporting the claims.
Don't be mislead, I sympathize with the families of those lost in that massacre, but at the same time, common sense would tell some, that another repeat of that incident would be rare, and their political officials know it would impact their economy in a harsh fashion.
So to just rant on about Tiananment Square is opening up a can of worms, only the worms are dead... Meaningless at this point.
they should attack the criminal organizations creating these that clearly violate Taiwanese copyright, not students that are engaging in what may actually be considered fair use under Taiwanese law. My impression is that the law there has not yet been clarified in that manner.
Agreed, but thinking the government is going to attack "cities of industry" within criminal enterprises is like telling them "Go to war" as opposes to just finding a scapegoat. Maybe I'm not saying it right since I'm tired as shit so let me rephrase.
If some of these criminal enterprises are contributing money to anyone in underhanded fashions, then it'd be easier to their music industry to pass blame on students, and have the government go after them.
At least in the U.S., the CDs we buy in stores are bona fide copies. Now, I'm no fan of RIAA; I believe that they don't really serve a purpose other than to promote a monopolistic view for music, to keep the recording industry's profit margins nice and fat while the common artist is
screwed.
Well out here in New York City, there is a slight problem with bootleg copies of music, in fact (no bullshit) while passing by Federl Plaza last week there were bootleggers selling those CD's in front of the FBI's headquarters. (The bootleggers don't worry though, government only goes after cypherpunks. I think there are more important issues than going after the students as well. As for the RIAA, its a business like any other one, they do what they can to generate their revenue, its all fair game.
I post at 2. Aside from that what does that have to do with anything? Like I said I don't wanna troll about it, but to think that Tiananmen square would repeat is absurd, especially with tensions on the rise all around, and another protest would likely garter immediate attention, and close scrutiny of the government. So again whats your point?
Well this will be the last I respond to this to not sway or troll longer.
However, imagine YOU are a student in a country where 12 years ago the government killed it's own people for peaceful protest. Do you go out on the streets over some MP3s? Personally I would move, and if under given circumstances I couldn't then yes I would look into raising awareness via form of protest or other methods, such as switching into the political realm so future folk would not have to deal with it.
I knew someone would bring up Tiananmen on this one. One of the things to remember, are the differences in date. Its doubtable with the way things are there would be a repeat of it, as the world would be watching. So instead of even trolling about that I'll just quote.
"In the years since June 1989 China has changed enormously. Since that time the USA and the world have witnessed several genocides (Rwanda and Bosnia for example). Yet Americans seem peculiarly troubled by what happened in Tiananmen
Square over ten years ago.
It is time to stop dwelling on this one particular event in modern Chinese history. We must look at our own past, see our own experiences, and not pass judgement blindly. In the words of the memorial to the Kent State massacre, we should "Inquire, Learn, Reflect."
I must disagree with with this statement, "Those sound like pretty good things to encourage anyhow to me." Encouraging people to break laws is not a joking matter especially in a strict system in a 3rd world country.
Sure Asia has some strict laws, but telling people to break them is not the solution, and will only enforce their government's petty stance on regulations. What the students should do is protest, make the world aware of the harsh sentences being imposed in their countries. Lobby to get them removed
If some states in the US started trying to circumvent drug laws by hiding their "stashes" their breaking the laws just as well so you can't have it one way and not the other. Fsck yea I disagree with someone like the government's bs, but at the same time a rule is a rule no matter how you cut it.
Now on the flip side of things, I hope their doing a good enough job of ridding their songs. If not they could use BCWipe to rid them, or if their laws allow for encryption, they could write an hourly cron script to tar then pgp them without destroying evidence.
Personally some of those students who are protesting, should look into getting into politics to ease things for their future kin.
If someone can't see the problem with a private sector group secretly selling personal information they've got issues.
However to be fair, the FBI wouldn't neccessarily need to use the private sector to gather information, as they could just check out DMV records, credit records, etc., with or without a warrant.
Oh sure cry up a storm, they MUST have a warrant to get these records, but you have to understand FBI agents, are people with the same resources without as anyone else. e.g. FBI agent calls his ex classmate who works at DMV, "hey do my a favor, and get me this information." shit happens.
So I wouldn't cry up a storm thinking the spooks are turning to private sector companies for information as a standalone method. I do however have issues with the company giving the information away, the FBI is nothing more than an agency nothing more, sure they have power, but if people took the initiative to learn a smidgeon of law, you would know the FBI isn't all that. In fact fuck em
what a surprise theres not one Linux machine on that list =\
You post this so much its just stupid, you offer nothing to back up your claims, instead you talk out of your anus. Could it be you tried to use a BSD and you were too much of a fucking clueless script kiddie to get a connection?
After using assorted Linux distributions, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, and other operating systems for the
past few years, I've started tinkering with RTOS' (Real Time Operating
Systems) such as QNX, dabbled with ChorusOS for a month or two, and
have looked into a few others (Nucleus, ThreadX).
Some RTOS' can be used, for a typical production server running http, mail, etc, often faster and more productive than most other OS', and I'm sure there has to be advocates of RTOS' with a comment or two. There are benefits to making a switch or are RTOS' a high tech OS solely geared for companies needing higher computing standards, but I can see many here trying to advocate Linux, Linux, and oh yea Linux, and I'm sure there are those who will mod unfairly. whatever
Don't get them confused, a lot of THESE OS's are not free to download, and they're not the same as using redcrap, or dumbian progeny. The article itself though didn't mention that some of these are pricey OS' it seems like they just jumped on another "Oh... OpenSource" for attention.
After reading the above post on "advertising to geeks" I'll just add this. Its/.'s site, their bandwidth, and as I learned, don't like it, don't visit its that simple. Your not the one paying the bandwidth bill so... håll kaft
On to the subject now. I think word of mouth is one of the better routes to go until the company has enough to pursue advertising since it does come out rather expensive.
Bartering a banner with a similar venture, or partner or friend is another method that comes in handy many times. It sucks to be sucked dry by PR firms, but I strongly feel companies should do their own marketing concepts before seeking a PR firm anyway. An idea is created, the concept laid down for the PR firm beforehand, so money is saved.
Getting attention is not that difficult there are plenty of websites that'll do a write up if they find the product useful. Visit some of the more known sites, jot an address down its not that hard.
Another approach would be to audit all applications you run like OpenBSD does but I guess that limits your choice of applications and you end up with very old versions.
Nonsense and here is why. With a secure OS installed you're less likely to worry about issues until you begin to install third party sw, this is one of the biggest problem with security, and often there are limits to even most third party security issues.
Administrating a machine isn't just kill -HUP'ing a daemon, or./configure ; make ; make install and thats what I've seen of many adminstrators. Little is done to maintain groups, usage of programs like sudo, etc., to restrict issues regarding security.
With OS's like Free, Open, Net, again many security risks are minimized, and sorry to say but I truly feel tihs can be attributed to the fact that people take their time, and try to get it as right as possible before a release IS released, as opposed to a kernel every other week.
Don't be fooled into thinking that you won't be able to run XXX program or XXX version will be obsolete, a good admin can find a fix for most issues, either by finding a suitable program which will work, tweaking code, and ensuring the program is installed in a secure fashion, even if it means chroot'ing every 3rd party binary.
Sounds rather ironic when you think about, but here's my <rant> on it all.
Supposed I was CTO of a company, what would make the Linux developers think for a second, that I would want an add on for security. This may sound as flamebait to most, but think about it for a quick second, without getting into an OS envy thread.
With the BSD's per se, security has been improved on the FreeBSD side of things, and Open is a martyr of security, without having to "add on" any modules.
Thinking os the LKM I think that the developers are slipping when programming and this is their solution for this miscalculations on security.
So the OS is not secure, but if you download X patch add on for rev XXX of version XXX, you may maintain a level of security for a while.
Maybe their approach should be as that of the anals of the OpenBSD team with regards to security. If you check it before releasing it, your bound to have less issues in the future. Sure many are gonna bitch, but think about it, with the analness of source code checking done by the developers at OpenBSD, there hasn't been a remote compromise for 3 years on a default install, and thats hellishly good.
What should be implemented is an in-depth code audit of the kernel before its released. Instead of attempting to release a new kernel revision every other week, they should take an extra step, and some extra time to weed out the issues instead of focusing on an add on module for security purposes. This defeats the whole security scope of thinking Linux will be secure, since there are many administrators who wouldn't know a patch if it hit them upside the head.
For those who do their best to maintain a level of security on a Linux based network, it must at times be hard to address security issues when they come out many at a time. Its unfair to think that an administrator under pressure in a large Linux based environment has the time to address everything at once, and many times things will slip by.
Again if the audits were done prior to the releases, the problems would be solved, and once someone began an in-depth review, and got it over with, it would be easier to maintain second, and third times around.
Patching a hole in a tire will only get you so far until you'll eventually will have to replace it.
Melanie Griffith, the star of Crazy in Alabama and the founder of MelanieGriffith.com, tells Paper Magazine, "I don't care if people think I'm a dumb blond or stupid or an overage actress or over the hill. I don't care because I'm gonna have a very successful Internet company, and I'm gonna have $100 million in the bank and I don't really give a shit what anybody thinks!"
I'm deeply saddened this site never made it to NASDAQ. After viewing her business model I always thought it would be a good idea to patent the whole concept of "Stupid"
Anyone with info on the Matrix 2?... What I would like to see is a definitive guide on special effects starting from Battlestar Galactica, all the way up to Tron, the Matrix, Jur. Park, etc., something of an encyclopedia, with 10 cd's full of trailers, clips, reviews, etc.
Now that would be a book worth dishing out 150.00 for!!!
Its not Linux related but you may find it interesting. lazy mans link
So, what experiences have you had with code reviews in an open source project? What was the process? Did it work? If it didn't, what went wrong? How would you go about starting a code review process in an open source project?"
Well thankfully I'm not a coder (although I try and succeed and actually succeed when I need something for myself) but here is my take on certain issues.
I think the overall Open Source arena is the best thing to happen in computerland, however I also see a lack of focus, and direction when it comes to Open Source. Too many great programmers with kick ass ideas, but no true skills from many to follow up on those ideas, and directions.
One of the things that benefit "profiting corporations" is, their business needs to survive on it which is why they pay people to produce, whereas in the Open Source arena, many do it for the love of it, insight, hobby, etc., but there is nothing that is obligating anyone to do anything.
Using SourceForge as an example, its a nice idea, but its horrendous as all hell looking for anything, and provided you find something neat, chances are many of the ideas are often in limbo. Undeveloped for any reason, programmers too busy, they don't care, etc. These instances I guess is what many corporations use to attack the ideaology of the Open Source arena. "It will fail because no one can come to terms, follow up, etc." and sometimes you have to look at it from their perspective in order to understand why commercialism will always outperform (martket wise) Open Source.
Another quirk is the lack of assistance surrounding Open Source projects, for instance, many know their projects will likely (85%) of the times be a free project, so many don't think about executing a plan on assisting those who end up using their software, which is another reason corps. have the upper hand. Maybe if some got together with non geek marketing people, they could document things in better fashion and provide assistance to companies at a set price, which I'm sure would give programmers more incentive to do better work, and at least finish some of it for a change.
But like I said I'm not a programmer
Ghost in the Shell"
Elizabeth Taylor is starting the "Diamond Admirers Against Astronautical Misuse" or DAAAM to protest this action.
boobs
Agreed which is why I stated that some of the students who opposed these things should air their concerns, they should know (or hopefully be aware) that the world would be watching to see that another massacre would not occur.
Again I also stated that those who are oppressed should look into getting into politics now to aviod having their kin subjected to this in the future. I don't disagree with your points, maybe I'm too tired to take them for what their worth, and I sincerely agree with most of the things you've said to an extent. About the westernization, you have to understand, they have to form their own laws, judgments, etc., its kind of like what the US had in the 60's in the form of racism, its a long road but slowly, people are moving towards better modes of life.
First of all thats a shitty case to reference as Kevin was blatantly committing crimes. Sure the government pounded law after law after law on Kevin but he is no martyr nor should he be treated as one.
I totally disagree with him getting shafted on a trial for so long, and one of the things I blame on society is their lack of knowledge regarding computer crimes, etc., etc., and the so called "jury of your peers" bs.
Referencing Kevin is like a pro doo hickey radical coming here, and saying something like "Well Timothy McVeigh was right to think that be committing his crime, he would make those aware of the bs gov is spewing on groups like those in Waco" or something like that.
Kevin was a criminal no one gave him permission to go into any of those networks, had it been a flip side situation where he was contemplating selling information he garnered, (which no one but him will ever know) people would've called for harsh sentencing.
Thats reminscent of Christopher Columbus, and Spain shafting the Native Americans, then claiming fame by so called Discovering America.
How was it discovered when it already existed, and why do history books still not show his true actions during those times
Whatever the claim on this stash, if someone found it, ethically they should return it, but if law allows, they did find it, why shouldn't they also have the option to keep it. Look at what Swiss banks did to the Jews, then again even some American companies.
Well then your point is well missed, since you have nothing to substantiate anything you said. You can't compare something that happened 12 years ago with this instance, without supporting the claims.
Don't be mislead, I sympathize with the families of those lost in that massacre, but at the same time, common sense would tell some, that another repeat of that incident would be rare, and their political officials know it would impact their economy in a harsh fashion.
So to just rant on about Tiananment Square is opening up a can of worms, only the worms are dead... Meaningless at this point.
they should attack the criminal organizations creating these that clearly violate Taiwanese copyright, not students that are engaging in what may actually be considered fair use under Taiwanese law. My impression is that the law there has not yet been clarified in that manner.
Agreed, but thinking the government is going to attack "cities of industry" within criminal enterprises is like telling them "Go to war" as opposes to just finding a scapegoat. Maybe I'm not saying it right since I'm tired as shit so let me rephrase.
If some of these criminal enterprises are contributing money to anyone in underhanded fashions, then it'd be easier to their music industry to pass blame on students, and have the government go after them.
At least in the U.S., the CDs we buy in stores are bona fide copies. Now, I'm no fan of RIAA; I believe that they don't really serve a purpose other than to promote a monopolistic view for music, to keep the recording industry's profit margins nice and fat while the common artist is screwed.
Well out here in New York City, there is a slight problem with bootleg copies of music, in fact (no bullshit) while passing by Federl Plaza last week there were bootleggers selling those CD's in front of the FBI's headquarters. (The bootleggers don't worry though, government only goes after cypherpunks. I think there are more important issues than going after the students as well. As for the RIAA, its a business like any other one, they do what they can to generate their revenue, its all fair game.
I post at 2. Aside from that what does that have to do with anything? Like I said I don't wanna troll about it, but to think that Tiananmen square would repeat is absurd, especially with tensions on the rise all around, and another protest would likely garter immediate attention, and close scrutiny of the government. So again whats your point?
Well this will be the last I respond to this to not sway or troll longer.
However, imagine YOU are a student in a country where 12 years ago the government killed it's own people for peaceful protest. Do you go out on the streets over some MP3s? Personally I would move, and if under given circumstances I couldn't then yes I would look into raising awareness via form of protest or other methods, such as switching into the political realm so future folk would not have to deal with it.
quote source
I must disagree with with this statement, "Those sound like pretty good things to encourage anyhow to me." Encouraging people to break laws is not a joking matter especially in a strict system in a 3rd world country.
Sure Asia has some strict laws, but telling people to break them is not the solution, and will only enforce their government's petty stance on regulations. What the students should do is protest, make the world aware of the harsh sentences being imposed in their countries. Lobby to get them removed
If some states in the US started trying to circumvent drug laws by hiding their "stashes" their breaking the laws just as well so you can't have it one way and not the other. Fsck yea I disagree with someone like the government's bs, but at the same time a rule is a rule no matter how you cut it.
Now on the flip side of things, I hope their doing a good enough job of ridding their songs. If not they could use BCWipe to rid them, or if their laws allow for encryption, they could write an hourly cron script to tar then pgp them without destroying evidence.
Personally some of those students who are protesting, should look into getting into politics to ease things for their future kin.
use the source!
You could do your work outdoors when sunny
You could play Quake outdoors when sunny
You could use your PC's @ the beach
You could set up a bikinicam @ the beach
You could do your banking outdoors
Power a fridge to cool your beer on the beach
Power your trailer (for all the trailer trah "folk")
California has finally found a fix for their issues
Cons:
You forget sundown time and work gets lost
You forget sundown and get fragged @ Quake
Your PC becomes filled with sand and useless
A sexy bikini chick kicks sand on your can fscking it up
You forget sundown and wire someone else all your money
A glitch turns your fridge into a heater so you suffer with warm beer
You could live in a trailer
Californian Power authority passes high taxes on solar powerd clothes
use the source luke!!!
If someone can't see the problem with a private sector group secretly selling personal information they've got issues.
;)
However to be fair, the FBI wouldn't neccessarily need to use the private sector to gather information, as they could just check out DMV records, credit records, etc., with or without a warrant.
Oh sure cry up a storm, they MUST have a warrant to get these records, but you have to understand FBI agents, are people with the same resources without as anyone else. e.g. FBI agent calls his ex classmate who works at DMV, "hey do my a favor, and get me this information." shit happens.
So I wouldn't cry up a storm thinking the spooks are turning to private sector companies for information as a standalone method. I do however have issues with the company giving the information away, the FBI is nothing more than an agency nothing more, sure they have power, but if people took the initiative to learn a smidgeon of law, you would know the FBI isn't all that. In fact fuck em
Now the CIA... (whoa)
Ghost in the Shell
what a surprise theres not one Linux machine on that list =\
You post this so much its just stupid, you offer nothing to back up your claims, instead you talk out of your anus. Could it be you tried to use a BSD and you were too much of a fucking clueless script kiddie to get a connection?
Hint: get a life
After using assorted Linux distributions, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Solaris, and other operating systems for the past few years, I've started tinkering with RTOS' (Real Time Operating Systems) such as QNX, dabbled with ChorusOS for a month or two, and have looked into a few others (Nucleus, ThreadX).
... OpenSource" for attention.
Some RTOS' can be used, for a typical production server running http, mail, etc, often faster and more productive than most other OS', and I'm sure there has to be advocates of RTOS' with a comment or two. There are benefits to making a switch or are RTOS' a high tech OS solely geared for companies needing higher computing standards, but I can see many here trying to advocate Linux, Linux, and oh yea Linux, and I'm sure there are those who will mod unfairly. whatever
Don't get them confused, a lot of THESE OS's are not free to download, and they're not the same as using redcrap, or dumbian progeny. The article itself though didn't mention that some of these are pricey OS' it seems like they just jumped on another "Oh
Is our soldiers forthcoming homecoming?
You shouldve followed the link to know what that was all about Is our soldiers home coming?
After reading the above post on "advertising to geeks" I'll just add this. Its /.'s site, their bandwidth, and as I learned, don't like it, don't visit its that simple. Your not the one paying the bandwidth bill so ... håll kaft
On to the subject now. I think word of mouth is one of the better routes to go until the company has enough to pursue advertising since it does come out rather expensive.
Bartering a banner with a similar venture, or partner or friend is another method that comes in handy many times. It sucks to be sucked dry by PR firms, but I strongly feel companies should do their own marketing concepts before seeking a PR firm anyway. An idea is created, the concept laid down for the PR firm beforehand, so money is saved.
Getting attention is not that difficult there are plenty of websites that'll do a write up if they find the product useful. Visit some of the more known sites, jot an address down its not that hard.
p.s. don't bother flaming I won't rsvp. Is our soldiers homecoming?
Was done by someone and submitted to Cryptome. So here's the link
Another approach would be to audit all applications you run like OpenBSD does but I guess that limits your choice of applications and you end up with very old versions.
./configure ; make ; make install and thats what I've seen of many adminstrators. Little is done to maintain groups, usage of programs like sudo, etc., to restrict issues regarding security.
Nonsense and here is why. With a secure OS installed you're less likely to worry about issues until you begin to install third party sw, this is one of the biggest problem with security, and often there are limits to even most third party security issues.
Administrating a machine isn't just kill -HUP'ing a daemon, or
With OS's like Free, Open, Net, again many security risks are minimized, and sorry to say but I truly feel tihs can be attributed to the fact that people take their time, and try to get it as right as possible before a release IS released, as opposed to a kernel every other week.
Don't be fooled into thinking that you won't be able to run XXX program or XXX version will be obsolete, a good admin can find a fix for most issues, either by finding a suitable program which will work, tweaking code, and ensuring the program is installed in a secure fashion, even if it means chroot'ing every 3rd party binary.
Pluggable linux security module framework
Sounds rather ironic when you think about, but here's my <rant> on it all.
Supposed I was CTO of a company, what would make the Linux developers think for a second, that I would want an add on for security. This may sound as flamebait to most, but think about it for a quick second, without getting into an OS envy thread.
With the BSD's per se, security has been improved on the FreeBSD side of things, and Open is a martyr of security, without having to "add on" any modules.
Thinking os the LKM I think that the developers are slipping when programming and this is their solution for this miscalculations on security.
So the OS is not secure, but if you download X patch add on for rev XXX of version XXX, you may maintain a level of security for a while.
Maybe their approach should be as that of the anals of the OpenBSD team with regards to security. If you check it before releasing it, your bound to have less issues in the future. Sure many are gonna bitch, but think about it, with the analness of source code checking done by the developers at OpenBSD, there hasn't been a remote compromise for 3 years on a default install, and thats hellishly good.
What should be implemented is an in-depth code audit of the kernel before its released. Instead of attempting to release a new kernel revision every other week, they should take an extra step, and some extra time to weed out the issues instead of focusing on an add on module for security purposes. This defeats the whole security scope of thinking Linux will be secure, since there are many administrators who wouldn't know a patch if it hit them upside the head.
For those who do their best to maintain a level of security on a Linux based network, it must at times be hard to address security issues when they come out many at a time. Its unfair to think that an administrator under pressure in a large Linux based environment has the time to address everything at once, and many times things will slip by.
Again if the audits were done prior to the releases, the problems would be solved, and once someone began an in-depth review, and got it over with, it would be easier to maintain second, and third times around.
Patching a hole in a tire will only get you so far until you'll eventually will have to replace it.
George Bush's secret meetings with Japanese officials
Think about the marketing that could have been:
I mean Melanie is as sharp as they come.
Is this the authentic apology from George Bush to China?
Man ever landed on the moon
In other news...
Anyone with info on the Matrix 2? ... What I would like to see is a definitive guide on special effects starting from Battlestar Galactica, all the way up to Tron, the Matrix, Jur. Park, etc., something of an encyclopedia, with 10 cd's full of trailers, clips, reviews, etc.
Now that would be a book worth dishing out 150.00 for!!!
authentic Original draft of Bush's apology to China
Would be nice to get an alternative to Metroid, Ultima *, and the first Final Fantasy ;\ Wishful thinking...