Peter Jackson and New Line did a great thing bringing LOTR in at 3 full spanking hours. Every review says it flies by. A great movie, like that or Apocalypse Now, makes you want it to go on and on
If you are doing any kind of database app for Linux, Kylix will save you its entire cost within a week.
I've used Delphi since Version 1, and only now is MS even getting close to it with their new.NET framework and C#. VB has always been a disaster for DB apps.
And for those using KDevelop, how much code do you need to write for a Client/Server db app with Bound data controls and automatic saves and updates?
I can write a Delphi Db app that runs over the internet in about 20 lines of code, and has over 20 data bound controls and a master-detail grid automatically synchronized. The user just has to download 1 EXE, double-click on it and it runs, no other installation.
I have clients doing this right now and they are just drooling. They don't have to have a web browser and its crummy HTML interface, they get a full GUI client. And it is fast.
Play with it and have fun - and all the time you save can go to hanging around with your girlfriend.
Slash had/has a great opportunity to take advantage of all the geeks consistently coming here.
With a captive audience, why didn't you guys write an auction service, like ebay, or a classifed ad section, for a fee. You have a community of people, you are well known, take advantage of it. You have scalability experience. Over the last 3 years you could have really built something. And ebay has proven this to be the best way to make $$ over the internet.
I doubt ads anymore will help you - good luck. you remind me of netscape. they had millions of people going to their home page daily, and only belatedly realized they could create a portal service like Yahoo. They blew it, and finally died. They would still be huge today if they had woken up.
Read the hobbit first, to get the feel for what tolkien is doing - it's aimed more for kids, but is still fun to read for us. it will only take you a week, if that.
the hobbit gives an easy intro to the whole mythology, laying all the groundwork for the trilogies.
then you can move to the LOTR, where everything gets more "mature", darker, and eviler - though the spiders and dragons in the hobbit are pretty bad too!
then, the silmarillion and unfinished tales are excellent - i really enjoyed reading the (very far back) history of elves, men, sauron, and the Valar - very cool.
Looking over the last 7 years of Windows development,, the.Net runtime to me is a fruition of all the OCX/Active X/OLE initiatives: a way for all Windows programming languages to share code easily. C#, VB, C++, Delphi, Perl, Python: all can create code that can be used in other languages, easily. This is a huge advantage to MS and to programmers - everyone leveraging everyone else's code
The problem i see with open source, especially Linux, is that no person thought of bringing the same to that world. No one has created their own CLR that everyone can add into, sharing code much more easily and helping each other more: which would be a truly open source ideal.
Instead, in ONLY 1 shocking example, there still isn't even a unified ODBC standard in Linux - totally unbelievable. Perl, Python, Lisp, on and on, each have to create their own interfaces to databases - tens of thousands of lines of code re-written over and over again to do the SAME thing.
Do you see, just from this 1 example, that with.NET Microsoft is going to be eating Open Source's lunch? OSS is wasting time re-writing, while MS builds a pluggable component architecture, letting programmers everywhere leverage each other's work, no matter what the language.
I think that is why the writer was complaining there is no leadership in OSS. Why didn't someone think of this before for the OSS world? Why are you still programming in the dark ages, like in the ODBC example? And Mono isn't the answer, as Ximian won't be around long enough to make it happen, and it isn't innovative at all, it is just a copycat.
i waited to make my final opinion on VB for version 5, and when i saw that it still had the same awful data aware controls, meaning that they were useless and you had to code all of your insert, update, delete functionality, i was so glad i had gotten out of there.
I spent a couple of weeks last winter with a friend at work using VB 6 - what a bloody nightmare. All the damn coding he had to do just to put up simple data-entry forms - nothing had really changed in VB over all those years. It took him 2 months to write it, while I could have done it in a week with Delphi. That's how far superior Delphi/Kylix is. Download the free versions and you will see.
And as for ADO, it seems ok. First, it was DAO in VB 3, and that got chucked for RDO in VB 4, and then RDO got chucked for ADO. What a mess MS made of things
As for Access, it has always been infinitely easier writing database apps with it than VB, even going back to Access 2.0
I could go on and on how crappy VB is and how it leads to bloated budgets, late deliverals, bombed projects, and DLL hell on the installs. Guess that's why MS is ditching it for C#, which they are, if you take 2 seconds to read between the lines. VB will go into maintenance mode, and MS will push people to C#, their Delphi/Java clone.
This is the main queston. I was a VB programmer for 3 years, from VB 3 until VB 5 came out. VB is a disaster for writing database apps. I think you know how VB is compared to Access, since you say you are a VB expert. And VB doesn't come close to Access. And Access doesn't come close to Delphi.
When i first tried Delphi, at version 2, it was light years ahead of VB 4 - real data aware controls you can use without tons of coding behind the form, visual form inheritance, which is a god-send, compiled speed (and compiling takes all of 10 seconds for a 30 form db app). Since then, i have quite 2 jobs where they wanted me to use VB 5/6 instead of Delphi - my life isn't worth wasting and losing weekends just to work with a crappy tool, when i know Delphi cuts the time by 90% - that is NOT an understatement.
So, if you do db apps, you have to check if these tools in the Linux world have real database controls, grids, combo controls, etc which you can use without writing any code. I doubt it, i haven't seen any of the ones mentioned say they have this feature. So, use Kylix, it has all those features of Delphi, and within 1 day, you would have saved the cost of the $199, and from then on it will be gravy.
And, you can just do a recompile and bring the app back into Windows through Delphi. And take a look at the feature set Delphi 6 has - it is enormous, and extremely powerful, especially DataSnap and WebSnap for Web Services, far outstripping what MS or anyone else has -- Kylix will get all this too. I've also worked with Jbuilder and it has good database tools too.
any exploits found are going to have minimal effect on this country's operations. It's not like linux clusters running NSA Linux are going to handle CNWDI stuff (Critical Nuclear Weapons Design Information)
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why would anyone, say like the Chinese Red Army, even bother taking the time and effort to put backdoors into linux and break into our nuclear secrets? they did it just by walking in the front door and copying them to a floppy!
What a joke. the Chinese were 35 years behind us 8 years ago and are now, at least in theory, equals - and the Washington Times reported today that they are preparing to test nuclear weapons:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200149 22 4735.htm
that's the reason our plane was flying so close to china, before getting yanked down.
security in this country is a joke. you are worried about technical security, and they cracked it with holes in the "social" security. i'm laughing but shouldn't be, since young boys are going to be dying in 5 - 20 years fighting wars over this stupidity.
Remember in Babylon 5 when Bester of the Psi Corps would team up with Girabaldi and Sheridan, and they would both need each other, but were always ready to crack each over the heads with bats? you knew Bester always has a 2nd and 3rd plan up his sleeve, always looking to exploit a hole (a la his girabaldi exploit).
This whole NSA things sounds just like that! they may NEED a secure linux for their own communications, but damn, who doesn't think they have alternate scenarios in their head;-)
wow, this could be a cool story if it hadn't already been done.
I totally agree with you that $500 is a lot of money for one of these. Without a flat screen, i thought they could get it down to $250. What's the chip speed, what's the hard disk size? i don't know. Does Gobe's office suite come bundled?
I mean if people pay out a few hundred for a palm pilot, then a $300 sony evilla would be a knockout, with the bundled apps. but this currently sounds a bit like apple's cube, overpriced without a ton of options.
but this isn't the only thing Be is doing, and we'll have to see what else is in the shoot.
oh, and i would have loved it if apple had taken Be, because it is such a great operating system -> i saw it doing things on a 100mhz ppc a few years back that are faster than on a Win 98 box running at 750mhz.
With everything Be is doing in the consumer space now, and this Sony product seems the tip of the iceberg, how would people be thinking of Apple now if they had bought Be instead of Next a few years ago?
Instead of people sweating over apple's massive loss last quarter, gigahertz problems, and a still unreleased new operating system, this is what apple would have:
1. a "post-modern" operating system out for 2 years already, *substantially* faster than Windows, running on both PowerPC and Intel/AMD. The transition to the new OS would have been done by now, after 2 years of a great American market. Instead, Apple is having huge problems with the megahertz issues, but this would have become a non-issue. Rumors are circulating that OS X is being ported to Intel: too little, way too late. We are at the brink of recession and people's wallets are tightening.
2. An OS which, at the same time, would put them in the middle of the consumer space for easy to use devices, like this Sony IA, like Be's mp3 Aura systems, and who knows what other surprises Be has -- cool cool products that live up to Apple's image. Is OS X coming out for these devices - No. Apple's logo would have been everywhere, and they would have a much larger potential revenue stream.
Instead, they went with Jobs, who in the short run saved apple with the imac, but it may have just been a temporary salvation. Apple could very likely go belly up if the US falls into a recession. This could have all been avoided if they went with Be.
Who to blame first? Gil Amelio. for going against his common sense, ditching Be, taking back Jobs, and not having the foresight to see what was coming and how Be could have saved Apple. i think the door is finally closing on apple.
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Peter Jackson and New Line did a great thing bringing LOTR in at 3 full spanking hours. Every review says it flies by. A great movie, like that or Apocalypse Now, makes you want it to go on and on
Alex
If you are doing any kind of database app for Linux, Kylix will save you its entire cost within a week.
.NET framework and C#. VB has always been a disaster for DB apps.
I've used Delphi since Version 1, and only now is MS even getting close to it with their new
And for those using KDevelop, how much code do you need to write for a Client/Server db app with Bound data controls and automatic saves and updates?
I can write a Delphi Db app that runs over the internet in about 20 lines of code, and has over 20 data bound controls and a master-detail grid automatically synchronized. The user just has to download 1 EXE, double-click on it and it runs, no other installation.
I have clients doing this right now and they are just drooling. They don't have to have a web browser and its crummy HTML interface, they get a full GUI client. And it is fast.
Play with it and have fun - and all the time you save can go to hanging around with your girlfriend.
Alex
Slash had/has a great opportunity to take advantage of all the geeks consistently coming here.
With a captive audience, why didn't you guys write an auction service, like ebay, or a classifed ad section, for a fee. You have a community of people, you are well known, take advantage of it. You have scalability experience. Over the last 3 years you could have really built something. And ebay has proven this to be the best way to make $$ over the internet.
I doubt ads anymore will help you - good luck. you remind me of netscape. they had millions of people going to their home page daily, and only belatedly realized they could create a portal service like Yahoo. They blew it, and finally died. They would still be huge today if they had woken up.
alex
Read the hobbit first, to get the feel for what tolkien is doing - it's aimed more for kids, but is still fun to read for us. it will only take you a week, if that.
the hobbit gives an easy intro to the whole mythology, laying all the groundwork for the trilogies.
then you can move to the LOTR, where everything gets more "mature", darker, and eviler - though the spiders and dragons in the hobbit are pretty bad too!
then, the silmarillion and unfinished tales are excellent - i really enjoyed reading the (very far back) history of elves, men, sauron, and the Valar - very cool.
alex
Looking over the last 7 years of Windows development,, the .Net runtime to me is a fruition of all the OCX/Active X/OLE initiatives: a way for all Windows programming languages to share code easily. C#, VB, C++, Delphi, Perl, Python: all can create code that can be used in other languages, easily. This is a huge advantage to MS and to programmers - everyone leveraging everyone else's code
.NET Microsoft is going to be eating Open Source's lunch? OSS is wasting time re-writing, while MS builds a pluggable component architecture, letting programmers everywhere leverage each other's work, no matter what the language.
The problem i see with open source, especially Linux, is that no person thought of bringing the same to that world. No one has created their own CLR that everyone can add into, sharing code much more easily and helping each other more: which would be a truly open source ideal.
Instead, in ONLY 1 shocking example, there still isn't even a unified ODBC standard in Linux - totally unbelievable. Perl, Python, Lisp, on and on, each have to create their own interfaces to databases - tens of thousands of lines of code re-written over and over again to do the SAME thing.
Do you see, just from this 1 example, that with
I think that is why the writer was complaining there is no leadership in OSS. Why didn't someone think of this before for the OSS world? Why are you still programming in the dark ages, like in the ODBC example? And Mono isn't the answer, as Ximian won't be around long enough to make it happen, and it isn't innovative at all, it is just a copycat.
alex
i waited to make my final opinion on VB for version 5, and when i saw that it still had the same awful data aware controls, meaning that they were useless and you had to code all of your insert, update, delete functionality, i was so glad i had gotten out of there.
I spent a couple of weeks last winter with a friend at work using VB 6 - what a bloody nightmare. All the damn coding he had to do just to put up simple data-entry forms - nothing had really changed in VB over all those years. It took him 2 months to write it, while I could have done it in a week with Delphi. That's how far superior Delphi/Kylix is. Download the free versions and you will see.
And as for ADO, it seems ok. First, it was DAO in VB 3, and that got chucked for RDO in VB 4, and then RDO got chucked for ADO. What a mess MS made of things
As for Access, it has always been infinitely easier writing database apps with it than VB, even going back to Access 2.0
I could go on and on how crappy VB is and how it leads to bloated budgets, late deliverals, bombed projects, and DLL hell on the installs. Guess that's why MS is ditching it for C#, which they are, if you take 2 seconds to read between the lines. VB will go into maintenance mode, and MS will push people to C#, their Delphi/Java clone.
alex
This is the main queston. I was a VB programmer for 3 years, from VB 3 until VB 5 came out. VB is a disaster for writing database apps. I think you know how VB is compared to Access, since you say you are a VB expert. And VB doesn't come close to Access. And Access doesn't come close to Delphi.
When i first tried Delphi, at version 2, it was light years ahead of VB 4 - real data aware controls you can use without tons of coding behind the form, visual form inheritance, which is a god-send, compiled speed (and compiling takes all of 10 seconds for a 30 form db app). Since then, i have quite 2 jobs where they wanted me to use VB 5/6 instead of Delphi - my life isn't worth wasting and losing weekends just to work with a crappy tool, when i know Delphi cuts the time by 90% - that is NOT an understatement.
So, if you do db apps, you have to check if these tools in the Linux world have real database controls, grids, combo controls, etc which you can use without writing any code. I doubt it, i haven't seen any of the ones mentioned say they have this feature. So, use Kylix, it has all those features of Delphi, and within 1 day, you would have saved the cost of the $199, and from then on it will be gravy.
And, you can just do a recompile and bring the app back into Windows through Delphi. And take a look at the feature set Delphi 6 has - it is enormous, and extremely powerful, especially DataSnap and WebSnap for Web Services, far outstripping what MS or anyone else has -- Kylix will get all this too. I've also worked with Jbuilder and it has good database tools too.
alex
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9 22 4735.htm
any exploits found are going to have minimal effect on this country's operations. It's not like linux clusters running NSA Linux are going to handle CNWDI stuff (Critical Nuclear Weapons Design Information)
-- end quote --
why would anyone, say like the Chinese Red Army, even bother taking the time and effort to put backdoors into linux and break into our nuclear secrets? they did it just by walking in the front door and copying them to a floppy!
What a joke. the Chinese were 35 years behind us 8 years ago and are now, at least in theory, equals - and the Washington Times reported today that they are preparing to test nuclear weapons:
http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-20014
that's the reason our plane was flying so close to china, before getting yanked down.
security in this country is a joke. you are worried about technical security, and they cracked it with holes in the "social" security. i'm laughing but shouldn't be, since young boys are going to be dying in 5 - 20 years fighting wars over this stupidity.
alex
Remember in Babylon 5 when Bester of the Psi Corps would team up with Girabaldi and Sheridan, and they would both need each other, but were always ready to crack each over the heads with bats? you knew Bester always has a 2nd and 3rd plan up his sleeve, always looking to exploit a hole (a la his girabaldi exploit).
;-)
This whole NSA things sounds just like that! they may NEED a secure linux for their own communications, but damn, who doesn't think they have alternate scenarios in their head
wow, this could be a cool story if it hadn't already been done.
alex
I totally agree with you that $500 is a lot of money for one of these. Without a flat screen, i thought they could get it down to $250. What's the chip speed, what's the hard disk size? i don't know. Does Gobe's office suite come bundled?
I mean if people pay out a few hundred for a palm pilot, then a $300 sony evilla would be a knockout, with the bundled apps. but this currently sounds a bit like apple's cube, overpriced without a ton of options.
but this isn't the only thing Be is doing, and we'll have to see what else is in the shoot.
oh, and i would have loved it if apple had taken Be, because it is such a great operating system -> i saw it doing things on a 100mhz ppc a few years back that are faster than on a Win 98 box running at 750mhz.
alex
With everything Be is doing in the consumer space now, and this Sony product seems the tip of the iceberg, how would people be thinking of Apple now if they had bought Be instead of Next a few years ago?
Instead of people sweating over apple's massive loss last quarter, gigahertz problems, and a still unreleased new operating system, this is what apple would have:
1. a "post-modern" operating system out for 2 years already, *substantially* faster than Windows, running on both PowerPC and Intel/AMD. The transition to the new OS would have been done by now, after 2 years of a great American market. Instead, Apple is having huge problems with the megahertz issues, but this would have become a non-issue. Rumors are circulating that OS X is being ported to Intel: too little, way too late. We are at the brink of recession and people's wallets are tightening.
2. An OS which, at the same time, would put them in the middle of the consumer space for easy to use devices, like this Sony IA, like Be's mp3 Aura systems, and who knows what other surprises Be has -- cool cool products that live up to Apple's image. Is OS X coming out for these devices - No. Apple's logo would have been everywhere, and they would have a much larger potential revenue stream.
Instead, they went with Jobs, who in the short run saved apple with the imac, but it may have just been a temporary salvation. Apple could very likely go belly up if the US falls into a recession. This could have all been avoided if they went with Be.
Who to blame first? Gil Amelio. for going against his common sense, ditching Be, taking back Jobs, and not having the foresight to see what was coming and how Be could have saved Apple. i think the door is finally closing on apple.
alex