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  1. Re:Didn't know? on 'Thirteen Days' · · Score: 2

    John -

    On Oct 26 1962, one of the MRBM sites in Cuba was spotted with - possibly - Frog 7 rockets. The Frog series could either have a conventional or nuclear payload - and they weren't quite sure whether it was a Frog launcher or a SAM launcher or whatever...

    But my main information on this comes from an interview with Robert McNamara, where he stated quite forcefully that they didn't know the Russians had deployed Tactical nukes. This
    wasinterview shown a couple of weeks ago on the History Channel when they did a marathon on
    the crisis.

    Another source for you is at:
    http://www.hfni.gsehd.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/CWIHP/BU LL ETINS/b3a4.htm

    Which points out that our knowledge of what
    the Soviets had, and had authority to use was
    at best sketchy...

  2. Historical Errors in Thirteen Days on 'Thirteen Days' · · Score: 3

    Saw this movie the other night, and as a sometime history geek, I wanted to point out a few of the historiacal innacuracies in the film. 1. Use of the "Peace Symbol" in a sign. Although created in England in 1958, the "Peace Symbol" was not popularized in the United States until the Vietnam & Civil Rights Era, a few year later than 1962. 2. This is a big problem... in the movie, the Americans recieve confirmation that the Soviets had tactical nukes in Cuba (the Joint Chiefs then offer to take 'em all out). The truth of the matter is that the United States _did not know_ that the Soviets had tactical nukes until after the missle crisis was over. When Kennedy decided to not invade cuba, he didn't know that if he did, the marines on the beaches would have been vaporized by the thousands. He quite simply inadvertently saved the world that day. And if the russians had nuked the marines, it's a simple matter to escalate to city-busting nukes. This one fact alone disqualifies this film from being history class material. The problem with historical films is that invariably, most people will take the film at literal truth, without seeing that it's been dramatized in order to ENTERTAIN. Generally, films that attempt to tell it really like it is are called documentaries :)