Businesses are not people. Businesses do not have the rights of people. Businesses are licensed. Businesses are regulated. Telecommunications businesses massively so. Net Neutrality is not an occupation of private property, it is a requirement that access to the freeways of knowledge not be controlled by anyone other than the people. The public paid a trillion dollars to develop the technology that allows the freeway to exist, and any business making a profit from that owes the public at least the courtesy of unfettered access to any website regardless of that website's business affiliations.
It's not about the password. It's about the entry. Illegal entry, regardless of means and opportunity, is illegal.
There are mitigations, like if you were asked to enter, or were forced to, or were reasonably expected to and you reasonably expect to be allowed to.
In the case you describe, there was no reasonable expectation of permission. There may have been an expecation of ability. The law knows that "allowed" is semantically variable, and will pick the meaning you don't like when it comes time to pass judgment.
I bet the Android rootkit isn't the only rootkit on that CD... I for one wouldn't put anything I obtained at DefCon into any equipment I owned. Maybe not even into my shredder.
could have designed it to withstand a couple feet of ice accumulation and not had to sacrifice a ton of other things? If so, you're wrong.
No, I'm right, and for exactly that reason.
They sacrificed a ton of fuel they could have put into a bigger rocket to get a sturdier rover there, and still had it today to do another year of science.
Yes, the current rovers do impressively vs. their minimum mission requirements.
But their minimum mission requirements are kind of pathetic compared to what they could be if you set out to use more robust systems. And you wouldn't need to spend weeks planning which pebble to run the left front bogie over when moving to the next bit of interestingly colored sand.
So you should counter with "but we could put another instrument on the payload for that weight." Yes. Good. Do that, too. Let's stop screwing around here. Pack half a dozen rockets with all the equipment we can think of, and get it on-site. Let the rover go around and assemble the gear onto itself when it gets there. And make it tough enough to survive the environment and give us room to implement tasks we couldn't dream of until we've seen what there is to be tried.
But your example of survivability of the touchdown is begging the question. It can't survive the touchdown because they didn't make it strong enough. It's one of the reasons HMMV's are as strong as they are. You can dump them out of aircraft on a pallet.
The rocket thing is a good idea, except that the mass of rocket you need goes up super-linearly with the mass of payload you're trying to decelerate. I bet an auto-gyro would be even better, even in a thin CO2 atmosphere.
Your statement about where I work is tautological. That's two classical fallacies you've resorted to in attempting to question my reasoning.
Well then the contest isn't hardly impressive, is it?
Because those are the very places that real black-hats would target, so those are the ones with the measures in place to intercept attempts at social-engineering exploits.
How hard is it to talk your way into a grocery store's customer list?
A person isn't a dangerous object, unless you know he's got prior history of being dangerous.
The embarassment and the cost of replacing the employee is enough to induce any rational company to improve its processes so that employees are encouraged not to be dicks. (You may now whine that you don't believe Dell is rational.)
Thinking that Dell condones this or was in any way negligent about it is ludicrous. It's like thinking Dell would condone an employee who steals food from the cafeteria or who punches co-workers in the parking lot or who urinates into computer boxes before they're shipped. Nor would Dell be liable for those things.
At a certain point, an employees' actions are independent of Dell's sphere of control, and are not the company's fault.
So I'm entirely pleased that JPL gave this new Rover a cautious and careful initial drive. Why destroy a motor or break something else just because you 'know what you're doing'?
I'm not saying don't test it. But the reason you do prissy tests like this is because you expect that you don't know what you're doing, and you want to make sure the wheels go all the way around. Shows a lack of confidence in your processes and in the robustness of your gear. Which means both were designed by people who didn't have confidence in their own design abilities.
Someone mentioned $80k/lb (probably more for Mars). So adding a few lbs to make the thing much tougher and more robust is a good idea, since a fat screw-jack is insurance against losing the other several hundred lbs worth of cost because you saved weight using a prissy tin-foil deployment spring on the solar collector.
I understand it fine. Which is why I don't understand why the thing isn't made so bulletproof that you could test the wheels with the entire crew jumping up and down on top of the rover. It's not so much a matter of not testing it as of having to treat it like it's going to break because you're testing it. One of the Mars landers crapped out this year because too much frost (albeit a layer of dry ice a couple of feet thick) snapped its solar panels. Prissy design is passe. Let's send up some gear that can do donuts. We'll find a use for the extra capability when we get there. We always do. Otherwise, we're going to spend $300 million and get only $301 million worth of work out of it, if we predicted every unpredictable input.
The fact that he's a Dell Employee is irrelevant (though no doubt the company will get sued, too). This is a simple case of theft and harassment. Jail for the perp, leave his boss alone.
You know, being in a similar biz, I understand some of the economics of the process, but really, if we're building something to go a hundred million kilometers and land on another planet, you'd think we'd make it robust enough out of the box that it doesn't take 14 engineers and an act of congress to see it roll a few feet the first time. Let's send a robotic humm-vee. Yeah it weighs more. Big deal. Put it on a bigger rocket. That'd be cheaper than treating it like it's made of isinglas from day 0 to EOL.
high-speed explosive is just fine for this, but i'm guessing (because i didn't see that episode) that it wasn't tamped with enough earth above it to create a reaction mass that would reflect significant energy into the ground. large bang, small bullet, no recoil. also, i highly doubt they used enough. it takes a way huge lot of thump to make ground move several meters away without some extenuating circumstance.
which brings me to the subject of golf course soils. good golf courses have very porous soil, having been constructed for drainage, as standing and flowing water are a nuisance to golfers and greenskeepers and bad for grass (or glass, if you're channelling Chinatown today). especially under the greens. you can jump a foot in the air about two meters from the hole and make a ball wiggle. so their choice of venues would be critical. local $12 muni? expect it to be hard as a rock out there. snooty private country club? like blowing up gophers next to a bowl of jell-o.
What's running low is fuel repurposed from decommissioned nuclear weapons and the research thereof. I.e., government-surplus uranium.
There may also be some known deposits that are playing out, but that happens to all minerals. We probably know where there's more, and how to look to find the geological structures likely to contain more. There really are people who can look across a horizon and point to where the oil is (plus or minus an error bar). Or rather, there were, until we found it all and had to move out into the oceans.
Similar deal with copper (find a dead volcano, dig into the porphyry likely to be wrapped around the breccia pipe and assay it) and diamonds (the massive kimberlite deposits - breccia pipes again - in Canada were predicted to exist and were spotted from helicopters at altitude). But I digress.
We're running out of a lot of things, but nuke juice isn't one of them.
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Wouldn't it be ironic if this solar flare knocks SOHO out of commission?
Booting is a game. Kind of like a slot machine. Which port won't work this time?
Who needs a flight sim with Google Earth?
The regular interface is like being Superman.
If I get my work done I'm going to go play make-generic-monitor-driver-work-on-RedHat.
welcome our pre-cooked bacony overlords.
Businesses are not people. Businesses do not have the rights of people. Businesses are licensed. Businesses are regulated. Telecommunications businesses massively so. Net Neutrality is not an occupation of private property, it is a requirement that access to the freeways of knowledge not be controlled by anyone other than the people. The public paid a trillion dollars to develop the technology that allows the freeway to exist, and any business making a profit from that owes the public at least the courtesy of unfettered access to any website regardless of that website's business affiliations.
It's not about the password. It's about the entry. Illegal entry, regardless of means and opportunity, is illegal.
There are mitigations, like if you were asked to enter, or were forced to, or were reasonably expected to and you reasonably expect to be allowed to.
In the case you describe, there was no reasonable expectation of permission. There may have been an expecation of ability. The law knows that "allowed" is semantically variable, and will pick the meaning you don't like when it comes time to pass judgment.
Every ActionTec router from Verizon that i've encountered (a dozen or so) had remote administrative access disabled by default.
And, apparently, an admin backdoor was installed in each one by the same Verizon tech who disabled the administrative access.
I bet the Android rootkit isn't the only rootkit on that CD... I for one wouldn't put anything I obtained at DefCon into any equipment I owned. Maybe not even into my shredder.
In this case, the little old ladies already have to be holding the cudgel as well as the handbag.
could have designed it to withstand a couple feet of ice accumulation and not had to sacrifice a ton of other things? If so, you're wrong.
No, I'm right, and for exactly that reason.
They sacrificed a ton of fuel they could have put into a bigger rocket to get a sturdier rover there, and still had it today to do another year of science.
Yes, the current rovers do impressively vs. their minimum mission requirements.
But their minimum mission requirements are kind of pathetic compared to what they could be if you set out to use more robust systems. And you wouldn't need to spend weeks planning which pebble to run the left front bogie over when moving to the next bit of interestingly colored sand.
So you should counter with "but we could put another instrument on the payload for that weight." Yes. Good. Do that, too. Let's stop screwing around here. Pack half a dozen rockets with all the equipment we can think of, and get it on-site. Let the rover go around and assemble the gear onto itself when it gets there. And make it tough enough to survive the environment and give us room to implement tasks we couldn't dream of until we've seen what there is to be tried.
But your example of survivability of the touchdown is begging the question. It can't survive the touchdown because they didn't make it strong enough. It's one of the reasons HMMV's are as strong as they are. You can dump them out of aircraft on a pallet.
The rocket thing is a good idea, except that the mass of rocket you need goes up super-linearly with the mass of payload you're trying to decelerate. I bet an auto-gyro would be even better, even in a thin CO2 atmosphere.
Your statement about where I work is tautological. That's two classical fallacies you've resorted to in attempting to question my reasoning.
Well then the contest isn't hardly impressive, is it?
Because those are the very places that real black-hats would target, so those are the ones with the measures in place to intercept attempts at social-engineering exploits.
How hard is it to talk your way into a grocery store's customer list?
A person isn't a dangerous object, unless you know he's got prior history of being dangerous.
The embarassment and the cost of replacing the employee is enough to induce any rational company to improve its processes so that employees are encouraged not to be dicks. (You may now whine that you don't believe Dell is rational.)
Thinking that Dell condones this or was in any way negligent about it is ludicrous. It's like thinking Dell would condone an employee who steals food from the cafeteria or who punches co-workers in the parking lot or who urinates into computer boxes before they're shipped. Nor would Dell be liable for those things.
At a certain point, an employees' actions are independent of Dell's sphere of control, and are not the company's fault.
Break one of yours. Mine won't. Getting more done on Mission 1 is better than having to plan and fly Mission 2 to get less done.
The only caveat to this is how much rocket you got? If necessary, build that bigger, too.
So I'm entirely pleased that JPL gave this new Rover a cautious and careful initial drive. Why destroy a motor or break something else just because you 'know what you're doing'?
I'm not saying don't test it. But the reason you do prissy tests like this is because you expect that you don't know what you're doing, and you want to make sure the wheels go all the way around. Shows a lack of confidence in your processes and in the robustness of your gear. Which means both were designed by people who didn't have confidence in their own design abilities.
Someone mentioned $80k/lb (probably more for Mars). So adding a few lbs to make the thing much tougher and more robust is a good idea, since a fat screw-jack is insurance against losing the other several hundred lbs worth of cost because you saved weight using a prissy tin-foil deployment spring on the solar collector.
I understand it fine. Which is why I don't understand why the thing isn't made so bulletproof that you could test the wheels with the entire crew jumping up and down on top of the rover. It's not so much a matter of not testing it as of having to treat it like it's going to break because you're testing it. One of the Mars landers crapped out this year because too much frost (albeit a layer of dry ice a couple of feet thick) snapped its solar panels. Prissy design is passe. Let's send up some gear that can do donuts. We'll find a use for the extra capability when we get there. We always do. Otherwise, we're going to spend $300 million and get only $301 million worth of work out of it, if we predicted every unpredictable input.
The fact that he's a Dell Employee is irrelevant (though no doubt the company will get sued, too). This is a simple case of theft and harassment. Jail for the perp, leave his boss alone.
Next!
You know, being in a similar biz, I understand some of the economics of the process, but really, if we're building something to go a hundred million kilometers and land on another planet, you'd think we'd make it robust enough out of the box that it doesn't take 14 engineers and an act of congress to see it roll a few feet the first time. Let's send a robotic humm-vee. Yeah it weighs more. Big deal. Put it on a bigger rocket. That'd be cheaper than treating it like it's made of isinglas from day 0 to EOL.
Not until the do The Science of Happy Days, including the water-skiing scenes.
Only until he gets his foot loose...
shape charges. why does it always have to be shape charges...
erm, no.
high-speed explosive is just fine for this, but i'm guessing (because i didn't see that episode) that it wasn't tamped with enough earth above it to create a reaction mass that would reflect significant energy into the ground. large bang, small bullet, no recoil. also, i highly doubt they used enough. it takes a way huge lot of thump to make ground move several meters away without some extenuating circumstance.
which brings me to the subject of golf course soils. good golf courses have very porous soil, having been constructed for drainage, as standing and flowing water are a nuisance to golfers and greenskeepers and bad for grass (or glass, if you're channelling Chinatown today). especially under the greens. you can jump a foot in the air about two meters from the hole and make a ball wiggle. so their choice of venues would be critical. local $12 muni? expect it to be hard as a rock out there. snooty private country club? like blowing up gophers next to a bowl of jell-o.
You mis-heard.
What's running low is fuel repurposed from decommissioned nuclear weapons and the research thereof. I.e., government-surplus uranium.
There may also be some known deposits that are playing out, but that happens to all minerals. We probably know where there's more, and how to look to find the geological structures likely to contain more. There really are people who can look across a horizon and point to where the oil is (plus or minus an error bar). Or rather, there were, until we found it all and had to move out into the oceans.
Similar deal with copper (find a dead volcano, dig into the porphyry likely to be wrapped around the breccia pipe and assay it) and diamonds (the massive kimberlite deposits - breccia pipes again - in Canada were predicted to exist and were spotted from helicopters at altitude). But I digress.
We're running out of a lot of things, but nuke juice isn't one of them.
I continue to play Rogue, because something like this is probably already built into Nethack...