Re:aren't there more important things in life...
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Your post is totally off topic. You knew it, which is why you tried to argue in advance against anyone explaining to you that your post was off topic.
There is no forum which is more appropriate for discussing story selection on/. than/. itself.
The reason I post that explanation is because with my post, I'm standing in between the g**ks and their toys, and thus it is predictable that they will scream out "Mommy! He don't want me to play my sim and make believe I murder hundreds of anonymous arabs!"
Thus, they will have to find a way to rationalize their rejection. And they will thus delude themselves into believing: "Hey, this is a story about modems and computer games. Thus, discussion about computer games is offtopic! (-1, Offtopic)."
Please go find some inbred, retarded mommy organization that whines about violent games. Leave thinking, rational human beings alone.
I'm happy you find it within yourself to have some sympathy for others (i.e. "thinking, rational human beings").
Anyway, it is not up to you to decide what is discussed on/.; such an attitude smacks of totalitarianism.
It is extremely important to compile your/bin shells staticly. That way you can recover in case you screw up/lib or ld.so
But, for that, you don't compile a full-blown bash! You compile something as simple and small as possible-- if you're using bash, you make a minimal static build, but preferably you'd go with sash or something similar.
Let me ask you this, how do you plan on getting the source to sed on a debian,redhat,slack,etc system? Much easier on FreeBSD system.
Umm... apt-get source sed? The level of ignorance in both these camps is ridiculous...
As somebody in both camps, I think I have to point out that source for.deb packages can be quite painful once you want to do a custom build of a package (enabling/disabling features in the build). Essentially, apt-get source <package> will get you a source package hardwired to build into the standard binary package, and building the package otherwise requires you to hack around with it too much. BSD is much easier when it comes down to doing custom builds.
I run both, so I think I can compare them pretty well.
Debian doesn't have a clear separation between development of the base system and 3rd party ports, as the BSDs do. If you stick to stable, this means that the 3rd party packages languish behind. If you run testing, it means your base packages are being updated all the time. With FreeBSD, your basic system remains the same for a long while, while you can track the newest versions of ports.
Also, Debian sucks at ease of automated custom builds from source. For many people this is an issue, including me-- I typically need to setup packages with the precise options I want, and Debian makes it much tougher than BSD.
Upgrading Debian and FreeBSD is not particularly tough for either-- for Debian you do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, while for FreeBSD you cvsup && cd/usr/src/; make buildworld && make buildkernel KERNEL=<kernel> && make installkernel KERNEL=<kernel> && make installworld and reboot-- for both systems you can do this remotely.
Apt is more advanced in many ways, but FreeBSD's system is easier to customize.
I have yet to hear a good reason why not to allow remote root logins - any takers?
Simple, because it provides one less entry point into the system, and an extra layer of security. It puts root one extra step away from everybody.
There are many reasons to login as root remotely, the same reasons to login as root locally. To setup a headless box on a network, to administer, to do many things you need root remotely.
If it's stuff you can do manually, you can just log in as a regular user and su. No big deal.
If for some weird reason you really NEED to do automated root logins to a machine (which is pretty fucked up, but ssh can be set up for this using RSA keys), still, that's no reason to allow root logins from the whole net on your main ssh daemon-- you can still easily set up a separate sshd on a non-standard port, and use TCP wrappers to limit the machines allowed to connect to it to the bare minimum. Then again, if you are considering this, it's time to think seriously again about your setup.
anyway, you miss my whole point. people are always porting linux to more and more systems, and claiming it's a good platform for embedded systems, when it's just too damn big and bloated for it. so fanaticism gets in the way of good technical decisions and being able as a customer to get quality products.
sure, we've all heard by know all about "full disclosure", the evils of "security by obscurity", why open source software is more secure because it takes seriously the idea of "security as a process", etc...
the question is: why is all this open source software like bind, sendmail, ftpd and such so full of bugs to begin with?
I'd rather go for a well designed closed source server than these crappy free programs that have a security problem every two weeks...
Please give me an example of a corporation bigger than the US government. The statistical trends are clear, places where government does most things are poor and the common people have measurably worse lives than in places where government is limited and corporations do most things in society.
Haha. You undermine your own argument. The US has the biggest government of any country, and the largest economy. How come then, since the US government is less limited than in any other country in the world, you imply that people in he US don't live worse lives?
Assigning blame isn't the point of the exercise when the issue is monetarily getting screwed over.
Who was talking about monetarily getting screwed over? I'm talking about *really* getting screwed over-- being shut out from information, being denied needed medical care, being denied insurance coverage you paid for, being poisoned by toxic waste, etc.
Actually, the buyout and merger trend has come nearly to a halt after the general stock price decline in the last 6 months and after several big mergers resulted in failure (especially the DaimlerChrysler one). "Bigger is Better" has reached its limits.
Remind me never to trust you on anything requiring an understanding of statistical trends. Because of a 6 month trend, put against the backdrop of 20+ years of massive mergers all over the board, you conclude "mergers are over for good"? Jeez.
As the above poster said, there is no world food shortage, but a *surplus*.
I just thought I'd add that the countries with the most malnutrition, for the most part, have food production surpluses-- they grow more than enough food to feed their country, but which is more profitable to export to rich countries where people have several times more food than what they need.
Most vegetarians oppose GM foods, anyway
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Vegetarians as a rule oppose GM foods, and prefer to eat organic. And if you've not been eating meat for more than a year, just the smell of beef will disgust you, believe me.
I think Katz is uneven. He doesn't thoroughly research all the things he writes about, that is my biggest problem with Katz.
He writes about tons of stuff he knows shit about to an audience which typically includes a fair number of people who know more than him about whatever he's talking about (assuming that what he's talking about is not the senseless "g**ks" crap). He never says anything that hundreds of people have not said before much better than him.
We keep packing more and more into less and less (for example, more schooling in shorting time frame - you easily knew twice as much by your senior year in HS than your parents).
Nonsense. We know as little as our parents did. In any case, technology is non enhancing most people's understanding of the world at all-- it is decreasing it. All these new advanced communications media are just overloading us with information. A person now has much more information available in very little time, but doesn't understand more than previous generations.
We're going to need to take the smaller and more trivial tasks off our hands. There will be no alternative. What's the solution? Certainly not a group of people engineer to be simple/stupid (Brave New World), but rather, machines.
Anthropologists who study technology have found this to be a total myth. Machines don't really save time. They alter the fabric of daily life in many manners, and the time they "save" ends up being used for some other thing-- for instance, working to pay for the machine, commuting, and many other things. A more concrete example-- washing machines don't really save time, because they bring not only a decrease in the time needed to wash cloths, but new social standards of what is acceptable cleanliness in dress, manufacture of clothing, and many other things that neturalize the time "gained".
And anyway, it will always be cheaper to enslave people to miserable jobs than to make machines do them.
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There is no forum which is more appropriate for discussing story selection on /. than /. itself.
The reason I post that explanation is because with my post, I'm standing in between the g**ks and their toys, and thus it is predictable that they will scream out "Mommy! He don't want me to play my sim and make believe I murder hundreds of anonymous arabs!"
Thus, they will have to find a way to rationalize their rejection. And they will thus delude themselves into believing: "Hey, this is a story about modems and computer games. Thus, discussion about computer games is offtopic! (-1, Offtopic)."
Please go find some inbred, retarded mommy organization that whines about violent games. Leave thinking, rational human beings alone.
I'm happy you find it within yourself to have some sympathy for others (i.e. "thinking, rational human beings").
Anyway, it is not up to you to decide what is discussed on /.; such an attitude smacks of totalitarianism.
Damn, they're fast! Kudos to sv.com... some alert editor must be reading /.
Hehe, of course they didn't mean this, right?
But, for that, you don't compile a full-blown bash! You compile something as simple and small as possible-- if you're using bash, you make a minimal static build, but preferably you'd go with sash or something similar.
the FreeBSD ksh93 port asks you download a binary package manually from AT&T labs, and then installs that.
Umm... apt-get source sed? The level of ignorance in both these camps is ridiculous...
As somebody in both camps, I think I have to point out that source for .deb packages can be quite painful once you want to do a custom build of a package (enabling/disabling features in the build). Essentially, apt-get source <package> will get you a source package hardwired to build into the standard binary package, and building the package otherwise requires you to hack around with it too much. BSD is much easier when it comes down to doing custom builds.
Debian doesn't have a clear separation between development of the base system and 3rd party ports, as the BSDs do. If you stick to stable, this means that the 3rd party packages languish behind. If you run testing, it means your base packages are being updated all the time. With FreeBSD, your basic system remains the same for a long while, while you can track the newest versions of ports.
Also, Debian sucks at ease of automated custom builds from source. For many people this is an issue, including me-- I typically need to setup packages with the precise options I want, and Debian makes it much tougher than BSD.
Upgrading Debian and FreeBSD is not particularly tough for either-- for Debian you do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, while for FreeBSD you cvsup && cd /usr/src/; make buildworld && make buildkernel KERNEL=<kernel> && make installkernel KERNEL=<kernel> && make installworld and reboot-- for both systems you can do this remotely.
Apt is more advanced in many ways, but FreeBSD's system is easier to customize.
Simple, because it provides one less entry point into the system, and an extra layer of security. It puts root one extra step away from everybody.
There are many reasons to login as root remotely, the same reasons to login as root locally. To setup a headless box on a network, to administer, to do many things you need root remotely.
If it's stuff you can do manually, you can just log in as a regular user and su. No big deal.
If for some weird reason you really NEED to do automated root logins to a machine (which is pretty fucked up, but ssh can be set up for this using RSA keys), still, that's no reason to allow root logins from the whole net on your main ssh daemon-- you can still easily set up a separate sshd on a non-standard port, and use TCP wrappers to limit the machines allowed to connect to it to the bare minimum. Then again, if you are considering this, it's time to think seriously again about your setup.
anyway, you miss my whole point. people are always porting linux to more and more systems, and claiming it's a good platform for embedded systems, when it's just too damn big and bloated for it. so fanaticism gets in the way of good technical decisions and being able as a customer to get quality products.
With the concommitant security risk...
the question is: why is all this open source software like bind, sendmail, ftpd and such so full of bugs to begin with?
I'd rather go for a well designed closed source server than these crappy free programs that have a security problem every two weeks...
Haha. You undermine your own argument. The US has the biggest government of any country, and the largest economy. How come then, since the US government is less limited than in any other country in the world, you imply that people in he US don't live worse lives?
Assigning blame isn't the point of the exercise when the issue is monetarily getting screwed over.
Who was talking about monetarily getting screwed over? I'm talking about *really* getting screwed over-- being shut out from information, being denied needed medical care, being denied insurance coverage you paid for, being poisoned by toxic waste, etc.
Remind me never to trust you on anything requiring an understanding of statistical trends. Because of a 6 month trend, put against the backdrop of 20+ years of massive mergers all over the board, you conclude "mergers are over for good"? Jeez.
I just thought I'd add that the countries with the most malnutrition, for the most part, have food production surpluses-- they grow more than enough food to feed their country, but which is more profitable to export to rich countries where people have several times more food than what they need.
Vegetarians as a rule oppose GM foods, and prefer to eat organic. And if you've not been eating meat for more than a year, just the smell of beef will disgust you, believe me.
He writes about tons of stuff he knows shit about to an audience which typically includes a fair number of people who know more than him about whatever he's talking about (assuming that what he's talking about is not the senseless "g**ks" crap). He never says anything that hundreds of people have not said before much better than him.
Nonsense. We know as little as our parents did. In any case, technology is non enhancing most people's understanding of the world at all-- it is decreasing it. All these new advanced communications media are just overloading us with information. A person now has much more information available in very little time, but doesn't understand more than previous generations.
We're going to need to take the smaller and more trivial tasks off our hands. There will be no alternative. What's the solution? Certainly not a group of people engineer to be simple/stupid (Brave New World), but rather, machines.
Anthropologists who study technology have found this to be a total myth. Machines don't really save time. They alter the fabric of daily life in many manners, and the time they "save" ends up being used for some other thing-- for instance, working to pay for the machine, commuting, and many other things. A more concrete example-- washing machines don't really save time, because they bring not only a decrease in the time needed to wash cloths, but new social standards of what is acceptable cleanliness in dress, manufacture of clothing, and many other things that neturalize the time "gained".
And anyway, it will always be cheaper to enslave people to miserable jobs than to make machines do them.